How to ID troops when no uniforms exist |Marking Friendly's| Stump Talk: Ep 1

[@michaelpereira808]

I used to help run a woodsball paintball field. That's a real eye opener on what inexperienced people under stress will do.

[@Saintbow]

I just sing out Sweet Caroline and wait for them to sing the next part. If they don't, they're not friendlies and you can light them up.

[@mattfleming86]

We do Country Roads on my side of the country. Works like a charm.

[@freedmarine]

🎵 So good! So good! So Good! So good!🎵

[@jessrouse8475]

Chinese people love this song in karaoke lol dumbshit

[@jessrouse8475]

This is literally how stupid Americans are to everything lol this is one of the main songs in karaoke in the east 😅😅😅 GOOD LUCK ....SO SLOW!°

[@gregmosk]

👍👍💯

[@richbattaglia5350]

Absolutely underrated in a grid down community based militia.

[@tomrobinson7817]

Surveyors tape, colored electrical tape, vis 17 panels, cat eyes, unity sparks, reflective patches, unit patches, certain camouflage, etc. There are a million ways to mark friendlies. This is a very important and overlooked topic in this community.

[@tomrobinson7817]

Quick tip, sew a vis17 panel on the inside of your boonie/patrol cap. It's very handy in the field.

[@Jacob-oq3uv]

@@tomrobinson7817 My unit SOP is ACH's on patrol. No PC's or boonies. ACH with OCP helmet cover, NVG mount, elastic band and camo netting

[@bravowhiskey4684]

Challenge: Thunder Response: Cats Affirmative: Ho! 😂

[@Wastelandman7000]

Also be a good idea to study gang dress markers. They all have a certain color bandanna sticking out of their right or left pockets might actually tell you something important.

[@derekmorrow1040]

My dad was an SF ODA member in RVN, reported that if the NVA could capture and run an M-16, they absolutely would preferentially over an AK.

[@tsoliot5913]

I've heard this before

[@ozarkman291]

Great content man, one of the most underrated topic. An armband is better than a dead friendly any day of the week. Also this is the perfect example of why maybe having some magnification for PID might be a good idea.

[@PreparedAirman]

O yes, I agree!

[@CDNR711]

Remember the Germans on the OST Front faced this very issue while fighting the Russians in the 40’s. They had to wear winter whites and both side did. They created coloured arm and head bands. They would designate a colour of the day/week and also place it on arms/helmets. It was effective, but like it’s been said before; we are always fighting the last war. Unfortunately it was in the ME the west is now trying to quickly pivot into Northern terrain and SEA.

[@Wastelandman7000]

btw, you can also get cammo duct tape. Distinctive and doesn't stand out as much.

[@victorchinchillvas]

Your content always gets me thinking. Thank you Airman.🙏🏽👍🏽🤘🏽🇺🇲

[@williammccaslin8527]

I got you on this, an the more you can bring out, do it. The only problem I had was some of the army troopers weren't to bright an would forget signals an cover words, scary, isnt the half of it. Sometimes we couldn't believe they even let them have rifles with live ammo, but this was along time ago. Thx for the vid

[@Liberty-Freedom-Outdoors]

Great points that many others have not thought about

[@crazy8sdrums]

This is an important discussion...that faces a great many challenges in the 1a realm.

[@snipercam11]

I’m glad your mentioning this because most people completely avoid even talking about it. That’s the reason I don’t think using multi cam is a good idea because that’s what our military uses as well as Russia and many others and I have 0 desire to get killed by friendly fire that’s why I run ranger green so I don’t look like a potential enemy

[@unclefreedom213]

folks have no clue just how important deconfliction gear is. I still run deconflixtion gear in all my stuff even as a LEO now

[@jrapp1468]

Ideally your guys would save the same uniforms, something other than multicam (AOR2 top, tan pants, for example) that you planned out in advance as a way of IFF. Blue tape works but it sticks out a lot. I think patches are too small and too hard to see most of the time.

[@thomasbrandon5111]

Yep we use to use color identifiers for quick id

[@Wastelandman7000]

If someone is strapped for cash because they just bought ammo they have different color duct tape at the hardware store and Dollar Tree.

[@PreparedAirman]

Absolutely save that cash!

[@boulwine]

i think there needs to be much more talk about this subject

[@gofreeman6270]

I have been asking this for sometime - thanks for the video

[@Wastelandman7000]

The reason you don't wax every guy who comes along is that he may be an expendable scout sent out to draw your fire. Now the bad guys know you're there. This is what we call a problem.

[@canidsong]

Blue duct tape has been holding it down pretty well in Europe for a bit over a year now.

[@terrysaunders2026]

OK guys, today we are wrapping our PT belts around our right upper thighs… Anything else is bad guy.

[@PreparedAirman]

Send it lol

[@vettle1]

😂😂😂😂

[@panzerlied4234]

Dude we need more people like u making videos

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Very important topic PA

[@fanman8102]

Excellent, thanks!

[@immortalsoul9122]

Thanks!

[@BiscuitsStuckToTheWall]

Some great ideas. Thanks. 👍

[@pisom4314]

most dont think bout this till its to late!! there is lots of ways to do it!! also think if your team are being chased and they are coming towards you in the dark how you will know friendlies from foes??? think bout it now & discuss it

[@BuceGar]

Just watch combat videos from Ukraine, you clearly see that they mark themselves with bright faction colors even though they are wearing camouflage. I strongly suggest that in a SHTF situation you wear emblems that represent your beliefs or who you align with. On all my "militia" gear, I wear subdued Christian flags, not American flags.

[@tsoliot5913]

Transformers flags are an immediate PTID

[@Wastelandman7000]

Hard to say. Gang tatoos would be one thing that would be a giveaway. Not sure fire, but, a start. How are they acting? Do they have a severed head or scalp on their belt. Yeah that's a meme, but, it could actually happen. Do they have scalps on their belts. Yes that was an adornment back in the day. Body language could be another indicator. Gang bangers often have distinctive body language. Military has another distinctive body language. So do police. Especially when going into condition orange. None of this is conclusive. But, they are pointers.

[@SaintClutch]

As a civy I’ve thought about the same things. Without IR most things like color branded brassards cut both ways when being observed by a hostile force. Your gang of prepared minute men; military or not are gonna look very similar. Let me guess a multicam minimalist PC and an AR15. Also that dude you light up might not be military but could be a vascular surgeon.

[@yoloactual6975]

If SHTF and some black ops Delta or Green Beret operator comes to find you, you better bet your sweet buns that he ain't there to train you.

[@georgekirby3361]

Easy. Anyone not wearing m81 woodland is down.

[@tomrobinson7817]

What about tiger stripe?

[@IncredulousIndividual]

What if marsoc is after you lol

[@OhSoCheesy]

My only issue with using magnification (or weapons light) to ID someone is that you just flagged a possible friendly. Yes you can keep your booger hook off the trigger, but I prefer to keep a small set of binoculars or monocular (or a separate light vs weapons mounted light) for ID'ing someone. I do keep lights on my guns, but that's for lighting up what I'm shooting at. Good stuff though. Always giving us good things to consider. Thank you!

[@markakira8988]

Obligatory positive comment for this great channel.

[@CitadelDefense1]

Not a bad idea at all, even if you and your crew can get all the same uniforms, things change and having a backup plan is a good idea

[@MorganHoard]

This is the whole reason i established rules of engagement.

[@clonesharpshooter101]

2:11 *Checks watch* Would you look at the time! 2023!

[@robertpyssa3333]

ID your head. ID yourself 360°. Always have a challenge and response. Always have no-light, no nvg methods of ID. Stick with cheap stuff like tape, bandanas, pieces od clothes. Normal flashlights. You may need to provide it for those that don't have. And have spares. Most important make everybody know what others are doing and how they look like and what will happen if... Keep the same people on the same tasks/shifts do they start to know themselves.

[@raulwillem1]

Great information

[@Joey-ne1zi]

Sadly, this may come into play here in the states if this current crap keeps escalating!

[@PreparedAirman]

Hopefully not, but we need to be ready.

[@Joey-ne1zi]

Agreed

[@canadafree2087]

Don't make challenge calls with a common use connector. Not: Marco-Polo, but rather Marco-AOC. Not Blue-Jay but rather Blue-Soup.

[@arlissyoung8899]

That's a great way of thinking, as many know a lot of the common phraises.

[@recondo886]

Kansas 'Red Legs' come to mind. you have to know who's committing the atrocities.

[@bodega87]

go to 1 shepherd and learn this first hand lol

[@kevinyoung9557]

Good stuff

[@greenwolf401]

I have thought of this before, but not to the extent that you talked about, so 🤔 🤷

[@hairlessharescrambler56]

Don't shoot at a comrade unless he's an a-hole and don't be an a-hole because he may shoot you 😆

[@JacobJohn-rc4sx]

👍👍

[@benjaminmcvay9864]

I like it

[@ytty5183]

👏

[@aaronnoffsinger5922]

If your prepared at all, you will have coms and coms discipline in place with any and all team members in the field. Ham radio is cheap dependable and easily charged with portable solar panels. If coms are not available, then we just never lost sight of our team members for any reason. Your best chance in a fire fight is your buddies and a coherent field of fire. If the team does split, make sure to plan a route and rally point Anyone that says things like "I'll just smoke em" has never been in the position to take a human life. Not someone I would accept as a team member. Murder is still murder when things go badly. The last thing I would do is put anything bright colored or reflective on my person to give away my position. I can see the use in that if defending a fixed position were the enemy could mix in with friendlies in close combat. Please don't ever fly the American flag upside down for any reason, it's disrespectful to men and woman that gave they're lives to defend what it stands for no matter the circumstances.

[@PreparedAirman]

You have alot of "Will", "Never" and "Ever" your comment. It will be almost impossible to be so sure of things. Stuff won't go as planned.. if we literally just reference the conflict in Europe, you'll see many plans not going as planned. They are improvising beyond belief. Therefore folks shouldn't trap their minds with "Nevers" "Evers" and "Won'ts".

[@aaronnoffsinger5922]

@@PreparedAirman It takes a never fail, never quit will to survive war zones. As specially to lead people. It worked for us, my team all went home alive! and plenty of people tried to kill us. The conflict in Europe should be teaching America that a new smart phone or can wait and off grid coms with the people you love is more important. Thank You Sir

[@realitycheck4158]

This is simple, I have no friends 😒

[@fathead8933]

The easiest way is not wear the same uniforms as your enemy. Greens and tans. It’s the way it’s always been for us since birth. Seriously, Russia has 85 camos and they chose the exact same as their enemy.

[@terrysaunders2026]

@Fat Head: You don’t remember Russia’s “Little Green Men” operations?

[@AlexanderGarbuz]

After about 2-3 days in the field all camo looks about the same. Not to mention that from 300 meters you won't be able to tell what camo they using. But the main point he is trying to make is this is not for armed forces. This is for prepared civilians. As civilian/militia you won't have standard cammo/uniform so you will need a way to identify everyone on your side even in poor visibility conditions.

[@fathead8933]

@@AlexanderGarbuz oh I’m aware. I just for-see more force on force if prepared citizens are carrying rifles. You don’t need to match camos completely. Just adhere to a color scheme. If your guys are wearing green, you can just say don’t shoot the green guys. If you’re just SHTFing it, you and your buddies should probably be squared away enough to have atleast a tan and a green set of clothes. If not maybe the flavor of the week subcompact/pcc/non NATO caliber rifle probably shouldn’t be a focus. Not accusing you personally, the community as a whole has problems with this. If I was starting off I would get a set of woodland BDUs first and a set of multicam next. My reasoning is based off a threat matrix. Strength x probablity= threat. Your main threat is other Americans trying to rob you violently. Idk about you but I’m not too concerned about fratricide while going to Walmart. I’m not hunting in teams while getting food. So I don’t require IFF to go about my day to day. So the next two threats are the US govt and a NATO based alliance. The second would probably rely on a total collapse of the govt and Europe wanting to control the nukes. Well those two potential threats both wear Multicam variants. With the exception of marines. Who can wear woodland digitals. Your uniform doesn’t even have to be military uniforms but they need to prescribe to a green tan system. I know the bright skin tight tshirts and flannel under your armor is the vibe but it’s hindering in the real world not helping. Yes you still need camo in an urban environment before someone throws that out. Honestly, a bunch of guys wearing carharts are a uniform.

[@AlexanderGarbuz]

@@fathead8933 jeans and carhartt jacket with reflective runners arms bands.would be a good start I would not worry about cammo, instead I would spend time and money on communication equipment, medical training, areal surveilance platforms, night vision, etc. And yes, I agree with your threat assesment.

[@fathead8933]

@@AlexanderGarbuz I could see that working.

[@markottinger]

🇺🇲🤟

[@pyeitme508]

RAD

[@albertkinney8021]

Red tape republican blue tape Democrat white tape people tired of the BS I'm going red white American flag upside down means destress help.

[@AlexanderGarbuz]

will it be visible from 200-300 meters away? What about low visibility conditions?

[@albertkinney8021]

Well brother it's called friendly coordination as long as we let each other know what the main goal is and have a plan together I can only hope to overcome the evil that is trying to destroy America as we know it.

[@AlexanderGarbuz]

@@albertkinney8021 a few things to consider: 1. if you think about full scale civil war then you will issued something and will be told how to use it. Most likely you won't be improvising with tapes ans shit like this. 2. if you talking about civil unrest and local community based defense force / militia then it won't be democrats vs. republicans. I t will be more like local vs. everyone else. Realisticaly all we can do is to prepare for a small scale short term civil unrest .

[@Asymmetricthreatsolutions]

Just look at ukraine and whats going on there. You have two groups all using the same gear and uniforms. Its arm bands and helmet tape. Russians use the same shit look at pt armbands theres mad different colors

[@AlexanderGarbuz]

Russians use white and red arm bands, Ukrainians use yellow, blue and green.

[@Asymmetricthreatsolutions]

@@AlexanderGarbuz yes we know im simply saying its already being used in conflicts because of similar camo and equipment

[@AlexanderGarbuz]

@@Asymmetricthreatsolutions yep