How to Improve Your Forward Stride

[@Train2point0]

Thanks for watching! Let us know in the comments how you'll use these forward stride mechanics to unlock your full skating potential!

[@777MR_MOTIVATION]

When i get beat or faster skating after pivots because im Defense

[@shooten1st]

I just joined the Train 2.0 program and I have to say, I'm a believer. I'll test everything but just learning the corkscrew has been game changing. I see your stuff in the NHL games I watch all the time now. You can't unsee it.

[@Train2point0]

Appreciate the kind words. Happy to have you on board, look forward to chatting.

[@matyasmelovsky8561]

Hey, im playing in the QMJHL, me being a hockey training enthusiast i have figured out many things by myself about skating, shooting, etc. I agree on everything you say in your videos and i can feel the effect of the drills on myself on the ice. Great work! Its sad that 99% of coaches teach it wrong and are lazy to study worlds best players and experiment with the drills,

[@Train2point0]

Love it man. Control what you can control and keep spreading the message, best of luck this year.

[@BWT599]

I concur 🇨🇦

[@kzalaska4804]

I'm a recovering power skater and at 52 years old Jason has improved my top speed by 4 mph in just a few weeks, and I'm more stable and don't have to work as hard to do it.

[@Train2point0]

Love to hear it, thanks for the comment.

[@hockey6980]

At 52 and still working is awesome, I’m 16 and going hard but at that age and still caring is just awesome. Great job.

[@hockey6980]

Not that 52 is like crazy old but for playing sports it’s pretty old 😂😂😂

[@hankstevens7628]

looks great! It seems like the arms - in both running and skating - move in opposition the the direction of the legs. In running, the legs go front to back, and therefore the arms do too. While skating, the arms should *not go directly* side to side, but rather at an angle opposite the legs, which push at an angle. I have coached plenty of kids who move their arms too much side to side instead of in opposition to the legs which are at an angle.

[@eugenebragin3812]

100%

[@KP-dd2ci]

Definitely downhill skiing translate to skating...I crossover much better towards the left vs right, and noticed that instead of keeping my upper body closer to center and shoulder level, I start tilting and dipping towards the right when crossing over to the right (thinking that it would help, but in reality you need the counterbalance the other way). Seeing the reflection in the glass between my cross overs made me notice that. Downhill skiing is the same technique...quiet upper body when turning.

[@Train2point0]

Absolutely! Great job with this, can def help you accelerate the learning process.

[@Skating-Southern-New-England]

I have been meaning to do a video about skating biomechanics, and how it applies to my skating, and have been trying to come up with a good way to explain it. (I get questioned a lot about my skating) This is the best video I have ever seen, that most accurately describes how I would explain my skating. I like to call it loading and unloading the springs, when it comes to rotation. What amazes me about using rotation, especially when I skate uphill, is how much power I can generate, with little effort. It works well for distance skating, too. This is a great video, sir. Thanks for sharing!

[@Train2point0]

You are very welcome, glad you can relate 👍

[@rydenhaze10]

Learned more from this guy than my coaches at my home arena, literally playing an our away for better coaching

[@Train2point0]

Thanks Ryden, keep it going man 👍

[@jlo2o199]

Really great video. Can't wait to go try this out tomorrow. I know this is something That will click on my first practice because I fully understand and support the smaller components of this move. Gotta connect the dots tomorrow!! thank you

[@Train2point0]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ricks.9984]

Your stuff is right on. Thanks for doing these videos.

[@Train2point0]

Thank you, glad you can see it.

[@douglasruddick9656]

You get better movement with rotation I like the concept of the whole thing great work I like it😊

[@Train2point0]

Completely agree! Thank you for that.

[@cedricflinkerbusch6843]

You‘re awesome! Love your insights!🤩🤓

[@Train2point0]

Thanks, much appreciated.

[@rubyli1739]

Thank you very much for your work. I made some notes for my 7 yrs old son who has recently joined the house league in our town stouffville in Ontario. This is his rookie year and he is so excited and enjoys the games and practices on weekends. I’m wondering if you have on-site program for juniors like my son? Thank you!

[@Train2point0]

Absolutely. We have tons of parents and young hockey players like your son who are members and seeing great results. Any follow up questions feel free to send us an email at [e-mail]

[@glenhuysamer]

Thanks again. Watching from Cape Town. Would love to sign up on your 2.0 course but exchange rate is far too debilitating at the present moment. I hope to soon though. Thanks for all the insights. I point all my fellow hockey players and skaters to your channel, I tell them about your insights, with the hope that it helps improve their skating and our local ice hockey scene. You should visit us some time.

[@Train2point0]

Appreciate that Glen, thank you and best of luck, hope to see you soon.

[@gawi4405]

Me during the week: *watching videos, diligently noting processes and mechanics, ready to take it to the rink over the weekend to try to put it into action and step up my game* Rink: *is packed with toddlers tripping over their parents, and clusters of screaming teenagers gathering in the middle of everyone's way, also tripping over each other* Me: "Ah right, why did I think it would be different this time..." *does laps slowly for an hour and a half, manages to try mechanics like twice before getting fed up and going home* Rinse and repeat. Kids, don't take your hockey practice time for granted - it's so hard to get quality ice time when you're an adult.

[@Train2point0]

haha great message for all players here. Ice time, roller blades, DSS simulations off ice, whatever you can use to help improve but quality ice is second to none.

[@kmdrsydale]

Small town public skates are great! Less people for sure. Our free skates (holidays, PA days, etc) are usually packed like you describe but still a good time to try new mechanics at slow speed. Really focus on what you are doing before trying to add the speed.

[@FallLineJP]

1:20 - personally I think the difference in arm swing between runners and skaters has more to do with the fact that runners are pushing straight back with their legs while skaters are pushing diagonally- back and sideways. 🤓🤓🤔

[@FallLineJP]

2:30 - ok that was the very next point lol 🤣💪

[@Train2point0]

😂👍

[@andyp6683]

At 3:55 should you be returning your feet now to the centre of your body?

[@m1j4s]

Yes.. as much as you can. It's a hard habit to break if you are used to a wider stance. But yes, returning your feet directly under your weight will maximize your stride length and increase power. Same with finishing stride with full extension and the toe. And further returning from full extension to back to centre as quick as possible. I'd suggest working on that form first and not worry about pushing off quickly with each extension, but maximizing those mechanics of each stride. Once it's become second nature, then you can work on your speed changes. The best skaters are usually the most efficient!

[@AlanShapiro94]

@@m1j4s Actually, no. Jason/downhill skating shows that none of the elite NHLers return their feet back under them. As you can see in this video itself, Mcdavid and Mackinnon both have a wide stance and don't return back to the center.

[@m1j4s]

@@AlanShapiro94 you're right. I remember going to a power skating school once and one of the drills was to return the skate directly under you after striding. While it does help to lengthen your extension, it is excessive and in practice probably isn't necessary for generating power. I'm assuming most of the power is generated from bringing your foot back to under the sides of your body but not directly at centre.

[@m1j4s]

@@AlanShapiro94 upon second watch, it looks like Jason has a decent stride. Not really sacrificing any power loss from returning the feet to a wider stance than he could be. I didn't mean to discredit him by saying you're supposed to return your feet to centre or whatever, but simply wanted to recommend the idea of going outside your comfort zone to new skaters (if they are used to keeping their feet wide for balance, like beyond shoulder width) to bring the skates to a more efficient starting point. Upon second watch, it doesn't look like Jason is doing anything incorrectly or necessarily anything less than what could help him generate more power. It's like how some ppl have different squat mechanics, and are more comfortable with a wider/narrower stance, toes in/out/ etc... not everyone will look the same while maximizing their own performance. As long as you are bringing your skate back to hip width/shoulder width, you should be fine for when it comes to generating power with your stride length without sacrificing a shortened stride. For some reason, when someone points something out, and depending on the angle, it can look as if there's something there when there isn't really. Again, didn't mean to give wrong information or discredit Jason. I'm sidelined with a rib injury and don't want to risk making it worse until it's healed for another week or so, so this is the next best thing, envisioning to skate like McDavid and nitpicking the gracious KZbinrs who care to help those crazy enough, while banged up on the couch, lol.

[@Think--Twice]

As a short track skater, it is very critical to return the foot to the center of the body to maximize the 10cm pushing range. However, as a hockey player, please do not forget that your body stablility is also important. You definitely do not want to be knocked over by your opponents while you are striding.

[@vil1244]

You usually emphasize the shin angle. It is hard to get correct shin angle when the butt leans back. I think, for explosive start, it is more natural to concentrate on pushing hips forward and to getting shoulders up, like in a speed skating start. Then shin angle goes by itself after that. It worked for me to improve my starts.

[@Train2point0]

Awesome, those are good coaching cues to implement.

[@jasontaylor3669]

Great job as usual.

[@Train2point0]

I appreciate that, thanks Jason.

[@jizur89699]

I named my daughter Jason after you. Thanks train 2.0

[@Train2point0]

Hahaha glad you are enjoying the content.

[@MbisonBalrog]

I named my 🐩 Jason

[@Colbsnipes]

I my brother also named his kid Jason After Absolutely no buddy but it sounded nice

[@Hockey_kid87]

I’ve been trying to do a longer stride but all my strides are really short and I’m not getting any speed form it can you give me some tips also nice video

[@Train2point0]

Inner spring, twist the rib cage and backward c-cut strides 👍

[@Hockey_kid87]

@@Train2point0 thanks

[@Jackhughesfan4life]

U are right

[@Train2point0]

👍💯

[@Rezin8Gaming]

I struggle to comprehend what you mean by a rotation. Am I supposed to rotate my hips? Thanks!

[@Train2point0]

Yes exactly. Rotating the hip headlights in each direction my friend 👍

[@MbisonBalrog]

Can you go over how stop on Inside leg?

[@Train2point0]

Outside edge with heel pressure.

[@davidpiersimoni9844]

So good. Hip drive mirror shoulder drive. Internal spring. That 10&2 can get u there is cool and again logical because the mechanics should exist and be a part of an ecosystem. CAN’T UNSEE IT!

[@Train2point0]

Absolutely👍👍

[@DavidWoods-g9d]

Watching at home I would appreciate some slow motion segments of the 10 and 2 movements.

[@Train2point0]

Got it, thanks for the feedback.

[@kmdrsydale]

Not sure if you're aware, but on KZbin, you can slow down or speed up video playback. Gear icon has playback speed options. Audio obviously isn't the best but if you're looking to see the details it really does help

[@0After30]

My arm swing is really weird and my stride isn’t that efficient, so I need to work on it.

[@Train2point0]

Repetition + Awareness = Mastery.

[@johnduffy6579]

Can u make a video on quicker release

[@Train2point0]

Yes perhaps bring a preview from our "SlingShot Shooting System" course.

[@hlm_shyaa2330]

I keep doing that short stride the corn cob lol

[@Train2point0]

Haha focus on that full body rotation.

[@buisnas]

Refs have crazy arm swing but not much rotation. I suppose that gets them from A to B as fast as possible.

[@Train2point0]

Yes, a lot less friction with gear that players have to deal with.

[@lduff155]

What % of goals are scored using the forward stride? Im willing to bet more than 5-10%.

[@ShanahanSport]

Bobby Orr Also Skated With Rotation

[@Train2point0]

One of the best.

[@daryljohnson6738]

Instead of the 10 and 2(eagle or mohawk) to start a stride, keep your feet parallel and do a quick x-over to start. You're only getting a good push on one foot with the 10-2, you could get three good pushes, while maintaining forward momentum, with a couple quick steps.

[@Train2point0]

No question a very effective start. Check out Mackinnon vs McDavid breakdown from a few years back, I highlighted this.

[@mattraven69]

it made me faster but now i need to stop better

[@Train2point0]

Shin angle and heel pressure. Applying the appropriate edges depending on which side.

[@lynzon1911]

Push? Haha spiral yes