How to install a spin fishing bail spring that uses the bar spring set up

[@6opekaso221]

Like many before me, thank you so very much! Broke the little plastic stud and ordered a new one and your video saved my favorite pflueger!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to help. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@user-fs7ig9mv2v]

The part I need for my Pfleuger Press P30 is back-ordered indefinitely. It is also the plastic bail return piece that fits in the spring. I see similar parts for other reels do you know of an alternate part that may work?

[@deedub310]

This guy knows what hes talking about, and does a great job of keeping you from falling behind! Excellent how to helped me repair my Okuma Azores. Thank you sir

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to help. Thanks for the note and feedback - Dennis

[@markknotts9059]

I took my reel apart to lube everything up and was losing my mind trying to get this part back together. You are the man!

[@joeschmo5012]

your a godsend. i was strugglin figuring out how that spring assembly went back together for a solid hour and was ready to give up and go buy a new reel. this video was my saving grace. i tried 5 or 6 other videos and none of them would take the bail off cause it was a pain in the butt to put back together each one of them said. watched this and bam it was all back together in about 90 seconds. Thank you so much good sir!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to have helped you. Best wishes for great fishing. Thanks for watching - Dennis

[@validfish2602]

I was trying to service my reel yesterday and i got to the bail and didnt know how to put it back on for 2 days lol. But thank god i found this video, it really helped me out.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! Best wishes for great fishing - Dennis

[@Dixiebonsai]

Thank you very much kind sir.This video helped me very much getting the bail on one of my bar and spring reels to close as it did when new. It needed a good cleaning but getting back together was giving me a hard time until I found this video. To be honest, even with your video it still took me ten attempts and some frustration.A tricky mechanism.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped and thanks for the feedback. Bail springs are everyone's nightmare! Thanks for watching and letting me know that it helped - Dennis

[@peterbaillif4607]

Thank you, very helpful video to explain the bar spring setup. I'm a novice, and I use one of the cheapest spinning reels out there that came with a walmart rod. After tying my leader, I realized the line was not on the outside of the bail, so I had the genius idea to just unscrew the bail and screw it back on. This unhooked the spring mechanism, and I was in a hurry to go fishing so I took out the L-piece so I could still close the bail, just without the spring mechanism. This video helped me fix that, so once again many thanks!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Next time remove the spool and not the bail. With the spool removed, open the bail and then put the spool back on. That will rest the line under the bar when the bail trips. - Dennis

[@emslice1]

Thank you so much! My husband thought he broke his fishing pole but your video saved the day.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching - Dennis

[@Fishing_with_Luke232]

Thanks for the vid almost broke a brand new reel messing around with it

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped

[@TheRetrodog]

This is one of those assemblies that you need to see done once to understand how to get it back together. For some reason i thought the plastic piece went up and down on the spring (like a click pen). I didn't realize it shifts in more of a side to side motion as the bail arm rotates in and out of tension. Once i saw that, it all made sense. also I completely overlooked the screw joining the bail arm wire to the other side. it made it so much easier to separate the arm from this moving piece that interfaces with the bail arm guide pin. Thank you Sir.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

That's why I tried to show it. Glad you can now work on them - Dennis

[@dagadiego]

I would have bought a new reel, I love my Pfluegar President. Your video saved it from the trash can. and you saved me some bucks and provided me with the satisfaction of fixing it myself. Thanks

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad I could help. Thanks for the note....that's why I am doing these videos, to give reels a 2nd Chance - best wishes - Dennis

[@ToCan2tuViDa]

Thanks alot! That spring is a pain up the butt, but I was able to put it back together👍

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to hear it helped - Thanks for watching - Dennis

[@andrearuffino]

I just popped the bail off a Toadfish 2500-C and, like everyone else, couldn't figure out how to put the new bail on with the spring. I will go try it now. Thanks. UPDATE: reel is fixed! It was not exactly like either of the examples shown here, but this video gave me enough information to figure it out. Thanks

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to hear it Steve. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@carlmeibergen8149]

Thank you so much! I was cleaning sand from my Okuna c-55 and disengaged the spring. I couldn't figure out how the z bar and spring connected. Greatly appreciated!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

YW - Glad to have helped. Best wishes - Dennis

[@teamspotsnatchers4656]

Your video was a lifesaver. Just got done fixing my pflueger supreme.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@jackwelch9713]

You ROCK! Thank you so much for posting this!! Fixed my Okuma reel in 10 mins! Now onto the Penn 🙂

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@daroldborowiak9265]

Nice video… just used it to fix my pflueger president reel!!! Never would have happened without this tutorial.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@Null94]

You're a life saver, been searching all over for this info. All the best from Toronto

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to help - Best wishes - Dennis

[@MarkPallister-j1e]

Thank you very much! I would’ve never been able to replace the spring without this video. 😊

[@2ndChanceTackle]

YW - glad to have helped - Dennis

[@petermoyle1803]

Great tips got mine back together first time, had spent an hour scratching my head.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@wilbertbenjamin9928]

Them bail and springs are lots off fun to put back in place I do not bother them if there working fine you do a good job putting them back in place 😊

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Sage advice

[@seasgarage]

Man, I spent almost a half hour trying to figure it out. The wire off and having it in the neutral position is key. Great advice! Thanks for this video!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@faustogarciarea]

Thanks, this really help me to restore my old Shakespeare Signature spinning reel, I made the bail arm guide by hand, but I was having problems re-assembling it!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! Thanks for the to and for watching - Dennis

[@samjarvis9866]

After searching for an hour I came across your vid, fixed my prob in 30 seconds ,Thanks!! Now a new sub

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thanks for the sub and for watching - Best wishes - Dennis

[@jimsevigne8536]

Thanks so much, very informative and was just about to trash the reel. Tried with the help of you and works perfectly now.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped. Thanks for the note and for watching. Another reel gets a 2nd Chance! Hooray! Dennis

[@OrlyUmali227]

Thank You very much. This video helped me a lot. Thanks Thanks Thaks. I watched 5 or more videos about bail repair and not one of those videos helped me. Yours did.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@Eclipse0317]

Thank you for saving my nephews new fishing rod!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

YW - thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@kid90water19]

Thanks to you Sir was able to fix my reels.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Great to hear! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@justtyler5229]

This was so helpful! Thank you so much!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback and for watching - Dennis

[@nathanemslie9071]

Absolute champion,I fixed the reel first go,love your work

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped. Thanks for the note and feedback. Dennis

[@kladuke2002]

Thanks, I had a hard time figuring out that spring placement on my Lew's KVD spinning reel prior to watching your video. Once I saw how you explained it. It was a breeze

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! Thanks - Dennis

[@gline7758]

Wow, thank you so much. The neutral position saved me. Liked and subscribed. If you ever get around to doing one that has a coil type z spring (Browning) please let me know. I’d love to watch that. Once again thank you!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! I will make a point to do one, although I rarely get Browning reels in for service

[@K1ngpool]

Thank you! You saved me from my stupid idea of looking under there

[@2ndChanceTackle]

YW - Never a stupid idea! Just and opportunity to learn - Glad I could help - Dennis

[@christopherjenkins2373]

I always take the bail wire off before messing with a bail spring. Very good advice on this video! Thanks Dennis! Most of my vintage reels use the coil type bail spring but I do have a number of Daiwas and even some Penns that are like these. Honestly, to me, these are easier than a large saltwater reel with a heavy stiff coil spring. A Mitchell 488 is so difficult it often takes two people to set the bail spring correctly.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I don't like springs at all :(. They tend to humble me. There are tricks, but some are just downright difficult. Particularly those on baitfeeder reels. Please stay well and stay watching Christopher. Dennis

[@christopherjenkins2373]

@@2ndChanceTackle I don't own a baitfeeder, I don't know how to use them, and I don't want any reel I can't work on!

[@kurtkollar3761]

@@2ndChanceTackle thanks for the great video. I have (2) gander mountain Guide Series GS20 both appear to have worn out the metal catch hole on the arm where the plastic stud sits for the bail spring. I cannot identify a cross reference to buy parts for these reels. Do you have any idea what company would have manufactured these reels?

[@barneyewing2664]

@@kurtkollar3761 Try posting this as an original comment rather than a reply to a previous comment. That way Dennis will see it and chances are he will respond. I've been told that the poster of a youtube video gets notified of the original comments, but not necessarily replies to a comment.

[@davewetherell9277]

Well done video! Thank you and tight lines!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thanks for watching and for the kind words - Best wishes - Dennis

[@Punisher6421]

Man you're awesome I looked everywhere for this!!!!! 😁

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad I could help! Thanks for the feedback - Dennis

[@chrisenglish9461]

You saved me on this one -- Okuma Avenger worked like a charm -- Thanks!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching - Dennis

[@99-221]

This is an amazing video. Thank you so much. I have been close to just giving up on one of my favorite reels, but you may have just given it a 2nd Chance :)

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the note - Dennis

[@valmontsantos]

Thank you so much, Sir! Your good work in this video saved my reel! I just subscribed to this excellent channel. I'm very thankful! 🤗 (From Salvador-Bahia-Brazil.)

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped - that's the idea behind 2nd Chance Tackle - to keep them fishing. Thanks for the sub. Please let your fishing friends know about my channel - Best wishes - Dennis

[@andrew5207]

you saved my life. a thousand thank you's.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

YW - thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@MELSOFF]

Thank you very much!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching and for the note - Dennis

[@cincinnatiking8008]

Thank you! Once again you helped me solve the problem

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to have helped. Thanks for the note - Dennis

[@DanielLopez-fx7kg]

Best tutorial video! Thanks allot I finally got it.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@charlesm.waltzer5371]

Hello Dennis... Thank you for your very informitive content! Your video assisted me in the succesful intallation of the bail spring of a 30+ year old graphite body Daiwa AG 760. Unfortunaly my bail does not flip over to the intake position automatically when I go to crank the reels's handle instead, I have to flip the bail manuelly. The spring sets when I open the bail but does not release when I crank. Not the end of the universe to flip the bail manuelly. Many a spinning reel have difficulty flipping over by themselves without a little help fom the angler. Any insight and recommendations would be appreciated.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Sounds like you have a bent of broken bail trip or that the bail trip is not installed properly. A Are you sure the stud on the top end of the "Z" bar is set in the hole that matches it on the back side of the bail arm"?

[@jlifton]

Thanks so much - made repair of the bail spring a breeze. I could see parts flying all over the place otherwise!😁

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@Mudcat597]

Nice presentation! I'm trying to find a bail spring for a shakespear gxir 20 reel. Do you know where I could find one? Thanks Roy

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Not that I know of. These reels are aged and there is no longer distributor parts support. You will need a donor reel to get these. Try eBay

[@Mudcat597]

@@2ndChanceTackle Thank you for the info.

[@stevenH613]

Thank you saved my daughters Zebco reel. what a pain the spring and rod is Zebco also has a black plastic piece the spring and rod slide into.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped. Best wishes for great fishing with your daughters - Dennis

[@user-fs7ig9mv2v]

Great Video. The part I need for my Pfleuger Press P30 is back-ordered indefinitely. It is the plastic bail return piece that fits in the spring. I see similar parts for other reels do you know of an alternate part that may work?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I don't know exactly, but many are interchangeable. Pflueger and Shakespeare are part of the same company, sho check the Shakespeare parts as an alternative. The reels are likely made in the same plant - Dennis

[@HowardDamude]

Great informative video. Well explained. Recommendation on your camera work though. Try to keep the area of interest in the center of the view. That way, when you move around you wont go off screen. Not trying to be over critical but I know if I was making a video, I would like construct feedback. Focus is good on this one but I have seen in some of your other videos the focus is off. I am sure it isn't easy to film these small parts and tight spaces without a lot of extra setup or assistance so just a recommendation. Thanks again for the super video. I watched others and none really explained with the detail that you did.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thank you. I am always trying to improve the view. I appreciate the feedback and that you took the time to write the note - Dennis

[@ermannodangelo4087]

Thanks for the video, wish I found your channel earlier. Trying to fix an old favourite reel Cardinal 802 and I’ve lost 2 Bail Sliders part# 1126272 that fits on end of spring. Every time I ordered one it takes weeks to get. Do you have old reel parts laying around . And what’s the best way to get that part in without it shooting out across the room.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Yes - put the slider in the hole of the bail arm first and then set the arm to the rotor. When it is set, put the spring on the slider bottom and then compress it to fit in the bottom slot. You can watch this video in the link below. for another way to do it. Also, it the slider is falling out of the arm before you get to install it, use some fishing reel grease to act as a temporary glue that will hold it in place while you go to set it kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6PVkKWfr6uej9k Dennis

[@ermannodangelo1062]

@@2ndChanceTackle Thanks for the info Denis, do you sell parts?

[@joeywatts7779]

I had an old Abu Garcia Cardinal? I think it was... It looked different inside. If I remember right there was a metal plate in there and lots of other parts... and I could never get the bail to work right and I ended up giving it away. Seen any more complicated bales like this?

[@2ndChanceTackle]

There are several different schemes, but all involve springs and that always makes them complicated. Thanks for watching - Dennis

[@MrFishingOhio]

Super helpful, mine came loose randomly and I just had to reset it, thank you!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad it helped! I just had one in the shop that needed the same reset.

[@luckystrike7045]

Love your vieso's. Very, very informative. I have a Diawa ST705 and the anti reverse is not working. The spring is in tack but I think I may be installing it in the wrong orientation. Do you have a video that details the position/orientation of that spring when installed. Thank you, LouS/

[@2ndChanceTackle]

My guess is that you do not have the pin on the back of the main gear set into the slot on the anti-reverse pawl. You need to align the pin on the back of the main gear so that you can see it through the hole on the face of the gear. You then need to "aim" the pin to the slot in the anti-reverse pawl and install the main gear making sure that the pin is in the slot. If you have it is the slot and it is still not working, lt me know Dennis

[@lizmaurer3830]

Success! Thank you.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You're welcome! Glad it helped - Dennis

[@josemarquez21]

This video help me so much thank you

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad to help. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis

[@Glennmc7]

I have two Lews speed spool reels both the same model, but the bail on one reel is hard to flip over while the other is easy so do you have any suggestions on a fix like modifying a part on the reel.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Try watching this video to see if it helps. The one may have a bent bail wire kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH2rcmOrib17gLM Dennis

[@airidaspask]

hi I have a fishing reel that spins backward and the stopper lets the drum to more and the line to unwrap

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You need to fix a problem that is caused by a broken or Mal-functioning anti-reverse system on your reel. You do not mention what type of reel you have, but the problem is common as the A/R devices wear out - Dennis

[@johnmiao6931]

What type of bail spring is needed for a 30 year old Daiwa Regal 1000? Thanks!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

I'm not sure of that as there were several different models. Most used the loop spring versus the coil trigger - Dennis

[@todds8490]

Hi. I have an 070 reel and the bail wire came out out and its not the bail spring screw am i gonna just need a another screw or what. Thank you

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Todd - Please send a picture of your reel and area that is broken and let me know the maker of the reel and I will try to help you. Please email the picture to [e-mail] - Dennis

[@eduardotrillo3519]

great advice! thank you SO much!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You are welcome - best wishes - Dennis

[@dannyboyzeta]

Great video ! Thanks man !

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad you liked it! Best wishes - Dennis

[@chuckbailey7200]

Dennis, what is happening if your bail is closing prematurely? I have a spinning reel whose bail has recently started snapping close during the cast. It doesn't happen every cast, maybe only every third or fourth cast, but it sure is frustrating to end up with the lure popping back and only twenty feet from the boat because the bail closed by itself and interrupted the lure's flight. Thanks for the videos!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You don't mention which reel, but there is likely a trip arm under the spool and inside the rotor that is not setting in lock position. Try removing the spool and spraying the assembly with a penetrating oil to loosen the dirt. If that doesn't do it, see where the trip lever connects. It may be that the end of the lever is bent and not locking in correctly. You can usually resend them if that is the case - Dennis

[@chuckbailey7200]

@@2ndChanceTackle Sounds good! I'll take a look at those items and see what they look like. Appreciate the advice - and your videos!

[@arturmalachowski8949]

Great video. Helpful but I’m not done yet. 😂 I have a reel I just did a full service on. The bail arm assembly gives me grief. It’s type one in this video. Unfortunately the spring mechanism has an additional part that keeps on falling out. Not exactly zen meditation to put it mildly. New attempt tomorrow. 😂

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Good luck on the retry. Try using a spot of fishing reel grease to hold the piece in and keep it from falling out - Dennis

[@arturmalachowski8949]

@@2ndChanceTackle, I finally managed! An additional step was needed. I hand to use an almost microscopic flat screwdriver to push the pin into the hole while holding both pieces tightly - only then it popped into place. Seems like some reels are a little more fiddly. Lesson learned. Once again - thanks!

[@coreyprentice9729]

I have a lews cat daddy spinning reel and having trouble figuring out where the little bar goes. The spring has its laying place but I have no clue as to where the metal bar goes as it’s curved on each end

[@2ndChanceTackle]

If you can you send a picture of the bar and the bail arm to my email - [e-mail] I will try and help. I can't find the schematic for the reel, but I may be able to see it pictures - Thank you Dennis

[@coreyprentice9729]

@@2ndChanceTackle absolutely will do,thank you so much

[@easyfishing9152]

Hey my friend I'm trying to install a bail spring on a quantum throttle 40 #2 I JUST can't get right In fact I broke that piece forcing it Give a hand this new reels brake like cristals

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Not sure what you broke, This is fairly straightforward with the A/R clutch. You may want to look at the schematic if you don't have it, to get the parts sequence correct. You can find that schematic here www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Quantum/Throttle/Quantum%20Throttle%20TH40AB.pdf. Dennis

[@easyfishing9152]

I never put a modern bail together Always been doing it old school

[@robwasnj]

Unbelievable! Here I am sitting in our FL Keys rental after a nice day out catching some big Permits off the bridges and my Thunnus 6000 has a stiff bail that I have to push over with some force. I go online to see what it might be after looking at bail springs. I continue to look and watch your video and come to realize you're right near me back home! I'm in South River NJ. If I can't figure it out do you still do repairs? I've had this reel for years but only use it seasonally but it probably needs service all around. TIA - Rob

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Yes, I am still servicing reels. Please contact me when you return. My email is [e-mail] - Dennis

[@christopherjenkins2373]

Great tutorial!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thank you!

[@GaryThompson-gq4nl]

Thanks for the info,

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You bet!

[@jakethetool698]

I couldn’t see a thing. Haven’t given up on my CLA8000, but damn I can’t seem to find any clear instructions.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Try watching the video in the following link. It is for a KastKing reel, but the set up is pretty much the same as the Clash 8000 and it should provide you what you need to set yours. Start at around the 5 minute mark to get to the bail spring service - Dennis kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXu4ZGugjK12ntU

[@memphisslimbo9837]

As an added tip, one might consider performing this operation on the first floor of your home or building as you may be tempted to jump out of the window while trying to put this mechanism back in place! 🙂

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You've made me smile - Thanks. I work in the basement, so I actually have to just up to hit bottom!

[@memphisslimbo9837]

@@2ndChanceTackle Oh man, I recently acquired a number of ultralight trout spinning reels from my late father's belongings. They are all pretty functional and I just wanted to clean, lube and re-line them. One of them (a Shimano) I made the mistake of popping that bail screw out and I've battled with trying to get that thing back in properly. Essentially the same 2 issues you illustrate here- a spring and a bar. I can see what needs to go where but just can't pull it off!

[@yafsmusic5320]

Thank you sir❤

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Most welcome. Best wishes

[@ayhansengul3930]

THANK YOU WHERE GOD YES .❤

[@2ndChanceTackle]

YW

[@easyfishing9152]

I don't know how to install a bail spring and the pieces on next to it

[@2ndChanceTackle]

What reel?

[@roymoir1799]

Thanks !

[@2ndChanceTackle]

You are welcome. Please stay watching - Dennis

[@doingitfresh7544]

Thank you for this I was literally about to smash my old reel with a hammer in rage... now... all good lol.

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Glad I could help give the reel a 2nd Chance!

[@the3bros365]

tysm

[@2ndChanceTackle]

YW

[@Mainbusfail]

U R AWESOME

[@2ndChanceTackle]

Thank you and thanks for watching - Dennis

[@wildfishingadventure5778]

i love you

[@andrearuffino]

Thanks!

[@2ndChanceTackle]

THANK YOU Steve! Your kindness is much appreciated. It helps me give more reels a 2nd Chance