How to install a wolftooth rear derailleur hanger extender for lower gears on road or mountain bike.

[@eproud55]

Your video was clear and easy for me to understand. It pretty much answered my questions about how to install the derailleur hanger extender. I am going to order one right now. I will update this comment once I get the extender and install it on my bike with a 40t lowest gear on a cassette. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.

[@pedalpowercycling]

You're welcome and thanks for the comment! Good luck with your install!

[@nbstreet0631]

This was very good. It helped a lot with my covert to a 11:42 rear flywheel. I needed the extender to use my 1st gear

[@pedalpowercycling]

Thanks! I'm glad it helped you.

[@michaeltan9438]

Great video man!!! Thank you Nick for the clear and detailed explanation!! Love your work!!

[@pedalpowercycling]

Thanks Michael! I appreciate the nice comment.

[@pdusername]

Good vid. Replacing my S.105 from 12-25 to 11-32 & lrg gear/cog rub. Yours is a bigger change than mine so your vid assured me to buy the Wolf Tooth (smaller size). My first time doing this - I guess if you bought a longer cage slack arm, that might solve your chain tightness on the lrg cogs. Thanks for the vid.

[@pedalpowercycling]

Thanks for the comment! Good luck!

[@litesp]

I don't think the Road Link is supposed to rotate to different angles. It has a feature that should contact the area where the B-screw rests so that that derailleur drops down but preserves the same angle.

[@jeremydiols532]

Finally solved my problem, thanks to this video💖

[@pedalpowercycling]

You're welcome!! Was your problem the same as mine, rubbing jockey wheels on the cassette?

[@thethunderheart8677]

Very useful video! Rear derailleur hanger extender is exactly what I'm going to buy right now but I'll take a Chinese one for $1.8. P.S. subbed))

[@pedalpowercycling]

Thanks for subscribing. Sunrace also makes one cheaper, for around $10, half the price of the Wolftooth.

[@thethunderheart8677]

@@pedalpowercycling i think you'll agree that a small solid piece of aluminum with no moving parts and no connections shouldn't cost $10😉 i think even $2 is too much for such a simple thing.

[@thethunderheart8677]

Bought for USD 0.47 including shipping 😁 excellent quality!

[@pedalpowercycling]

@@thethunderheart8677 Where'd you get it? Aliexpress?

[@thethunderheart8677]

@@pedalpowercycling yeah)) Original price was $1.94 but i used a coupon and got it for $0.47. I was expecting some minor faults in painting or something like that but to my surprise it's perfectly made. The only thing i didn't like is the bolt included - it's aluminum, not steel.

[@RegioIsiahLeamBlueH-B17]

Thank you very much! My problem is solved! 😭

[@the_nondrive_side]

Looks good. I'm happy to see this video

[@ltclaw392]

Very informative. Ty!

[@aleksanderresman3156]

Hello. I have been planning to upgrade my utlegra 11-34 to 11-36 for a long time with the help of the Wolf Tooth adapter. I'm wondering if it is necessary to replace the chain with a larger number of links or remains the same? Thanks for your reply

[@pedalpowercycling]

You can just add 2 links.

[@jybuys]

Well done! Thank you.

[@bookeaterintube]

Great detailed video. I have upgraded to 3x9 (lowest gear 22x46T!)for really steep and long climbs. I used derailleur extender but I struggled with rubbing at the largest cog. Now I know how to adjust longer b screw but I appreicate more what it will do to the smaller cogs. Thanks!

[@pedalpowercycling]

You're welcome. 9 speed Shimano typically lists 36T as largest cassette size. I'm impressed you put a 46T on it.

[@richarde1355]

@@pedalpowercycling I believe Microshift offers a cassette with this range...? With a 22x46 setup, the poster would be able to climb trees if the bark weren't so slick! Wow!

[@pedalpowercycling]

@@richarde1355 Thanks for the heads up. I've been typically sticking with the big 3 for cassettes (Shimano, SRAM, Campagnolo)

[@suissegarantiegaming2100]

Im very interested how you put46T on it as I want to do that myself. Could you explain how you did it?

[@kurtriedel3208]

Thank you your help.

[@bartbaddie347]

Well explained. But you're using a XTR mtb derailleur that was discontinued around 2002 !! Maybe XTR was worth the exorbitant price after all. I have two of them in a cardboard box . . . somewhere. Time to go Retro !

[@pedalpowercycling]

Thank you Bart. In my opinion, Shimano makes the most durable and reliable bike components. An acquaintance I ride with is still riding Shimano 600 from the 1990s with downtube shifters.

[@charlesnichols7682]

before you installed the hanger did you have trouble back peddling? thanks in advance. :-)

[@pedalpowercycling]

With the setup before hand, in 34 front and 13 or 11 tooth in the rear it wouldn't work forward or backwards that well. I don't recall having a problem with the other gears. Other bikes pedaling backwards could have the chain jump to a different gear in the rear.

[@dt76sf]

Hello, Great video. I have Shimano Ultegra 6600 RD SS with 11-28 cassette. 50/34 Chainring. Will this extender allow me to run a 11-34 cassette?... 12-36? Your video is the best yet I seen to answer questions thanks!!

[@pedalpowercycling]

Thank you, your 10s 6600 could work with a 9s Shimano MTB rear derailleur. Try the alivio, it should with an 11-36 cassette.www.rei.com/product/182379/shimano-alivio-m3100-sgs-9-speed-rear-derailleur

[@mesopotamialover905]

Great video!! I loved it

[@tabznotgood]

I have a Giant XTC800 with all stock components. RD is shimano M6000 SGS. I want to convert to a 1x set up without changing the stock RD. If i'd be using an 11-42T cassette, what maximum teeth of chainring should i use without changing other components? I've seen some bike forum of recommended tweak to simply adjust the B Screw (or to replace the stock B Screw to a longer one which is M4-20mm to enable bigger adjustment) to prevent biggest cassette cog touching the RD top pulley. Any additional advice is appreciated sir

[@pedalpowercycling]

The largest chainring up front may depend on your bike frame clearance in relation to getting the best chainline. Some bikes it's as small as a 34 largest tooth chainring. You can try a larger b-screw, but I wouldn't go from a 36t max to 42t. Have you considered the 11-40 cassette instead (w/out woolftooth)?

[@dagobaker]

appreciate the video running a 105 short cage which is supposed to b a max of 30T on the cassette currently running a 11-28 cassette with a 39/53 up front but i NEED some help with the lower gear ratio..... wondering what the max sized cassette i could fit with the wolf-tooth installed? not sure a 11-32 is going to b enough help............i mean its better than what i have also guessing this big of a jump will require a new chain

[@pedalpowercycling]

I was able to get an 11-30 to work with my short cage ultregra di2 10 speed rear derailleur. With my wolf tooth on that bike I converted to medium cage (I have a video on this) and now use an 11-34, 10 speed. For lower gears switch to 34-50 crankset also (my recommendation). Thanks for subscribing!!

[@Yeti1183]

I'm curious about why you have an older XTR rear derailleur on a newer road bike. The derailleur looks to be about the same size as a short cage road bike derailleur.

[@pedalpowercycling]

I just had the 9 speed laying around. I've since switched it with an Alivio 9 speed rear derailleur.

[@DarrowJones]

What shifter are you pairing with that der?

[@pedalpowercycling]

It was Dura Ace 7800 10 speed and now Shimano 105 10s w/Alivio Rear Derailleur

[@emo5313]

Video için teşekkürler.

[@win7757]

Just want to ask Sir if this derailleur extender possible to use with my newly purchased 11x50T cassette?

[@pedalpowercycling]

I'm not sure. What derailleur are you using and how many speeds? the Wolftooth is rated for up to 40T with single or 36T w/ double chainring. If you're 12 speed Mtb then those rear derailleurs should already handle 50T cassette.

[@esiu74]

Great video! Question, I run a 3x9 setup with the rear cassette having 11-34T and the front rings being 22-44T for a total of 45T, the problem is the RD (XTR, looks the same as yours) is only rated for 43T max. The problem is when my FD is on the large chainring, my RD will not shift to the two lowest (largest) cogs. Is that something the hanger extender (and a longer chain) will solve? Thanks

[@pedalpowercycling]

No, it'll make it worse as the rear derailleur will sit lower and further from the cassette in the smallest rear gears.

[@esiu74]

@@pedalpowercycling thanks

[@hellopsp180]

Also Thanks for the video :D

[@mogwai888]

Is your XTR considered a that a 'long' cage rear deraileur ? If so why not just use a long cage rear road deraileur.

[@aymankhairy3197]

hey good video btw. I have a maximum tooth of 28, if I put this on, can i at least fit on a 32t? Oh and also I run a 2x setup (36-52).Thanks in advance

[@pedalpowercycling]

You should be able to. Are you using Shimano and how many speeds? If 10s Shimano, the short cage might be able to work with a 32 without the wolftooth but an extended b-screw. Do this at your own risk. You may need 4 extra chain links.

[@aymankhairy3197]

@@pedalpowercycling its a shimano 9 speed

[@pedalpowercycling]

@@aymankhairy3197 9 speed you can use MTB rear derailleur that's also Shimano. I really do need to make a video on this for all the viewers. Then you can use 11-34 rear cassette if you like.

[@aymankhairy3197]

@@pedalpowercycling hey bud.. i just installed the wolftooth and a 32t cassette but the shifting isn't very good at the 1st to 4th gear. any suggestions to help this?

[@Nick-lm9hg]

Which is better out of the Wolf Tooth and Sunrace extenders?

[@pedalpowercycling]

I have both and can't tell a difference.

[@Nick-lm9hg]

@@pedalpowercycling could a hanger extender be used as a sacrificial / replaceable mech hanger for a bike that doesn't already have one?

[@pedalpowercycling]

@@Nick-lm9hg No, definitely not. Derailleur hangers are proprietary to the bike they're on. You may have to contact the bike manufacture for a replaceable hanger. For example take a look at BMC, there are about 34 different hangers: derailleurhanger.com/manufacturer/bmc/

[@Nick-lm9hg]

@@pedalpowercycling my bike doesn't have a replaceable derailleur hanger. The derailleur bolts directly to the frame. If I fit a hanger extender would this do the same job as a sacrificial derailleur hanger eg during a crash?

[@pedalpowercycling]

@@Nick-lm9hg Do you have a brand new direct mount rear derailleur? If so that's super cool and this won't work. I wasn't sure if they were out or not. Here's what I'm referring to: www.pinkbike.com/news/ratio-tease-direct-mount-derailleur-conversion.html

[@orviskid]

So i can use 11-32 and keep my small cage?

[@pedalpowercycling]

I was able to but it depends on your frame, derailleur hanger, and rear derailleur. So, it's a maybe.

[@91722854]

are u using xtr derailleur to take advantage of that same cable pull ratio between brifter in shimano 9 speed and mtb?

[@pedalpowercycling]

Yes it works well.

[@鉄分豊富-p9f]

U using XTR M952(9s) with 10s road shifter and 10s cog ,right? work well??

[@mbee6606]

Will this work with sram ?. Good video though.

[@pedalpowercycling]

Yes is should. Other people have used it on SRAM red to go from a max of 28t to a 32t in the rear.

[@1971lemond]

You’re supposed to position the link in the 9 o’clock position every time.

[@pedalpowercycling]

Manufacture instructions are here: www.wolftoothcomponents.com/pages/roadlink-installation-instructions

[@hoizkiacha]

helpful

[@my_dear_friend_]

It is written on the package in your video that the part is machined from aluminum. At 0:52 you say it is from stainless steel and you don't know if it even exists in aluminum. What is it made from?

[@pedalpowercycling]

Great catch, Both is the answer. The body is made from 6061 aluminum and the threads are made from stainless steel. AT 0:33 the instructions show both.

[@bluenote1412]

Or can I go as far as 11x40t?

[@pedalpowercycling]

0:37 Yes up to 40 tooth with 1 chainring up front.

[@bluenote1412]

Thank you Sir!

[@jeremyemilio9378]

Why are you using a MTB rear mech on a roadbike? And why do you even need such a wide gear range?

[@pedalpowercycling]

I like lower gears for climbing steep hills.

[@XCRiders]

Oh m g

[@Kris2per1]

video is not so great.. cross chaining in this video is too much for me...

[@robertrussell7134]

Forget adding these dont you think manufacturers would have them on first off your cross chaining thats your problem second just.use.a smaller chainring thirdly if a hills too.steep it will alwayz be too steep

[@pedalpowercycling]

Manufactures have a similar set up with the new MTB rear derailleurs. It's built in.

[@hellopsp180]

You should have tried installing wolf tooth on the 9 o clock positon instead of 6 o clock to make small small work :D

[@dperreno]

The only way to get the small-small to work would be to get a longer derailleur cage. The cage he has doesn't have enough capacity to absorb the change in chain length. The Wolf tooth just moves the derailleur further from the large sprocket on the cassette so that the derailleur pulley doesn't bind.

[@61tree_VR_Gliding]

Incredibly helpful video, thank you for sharing!

[@bengt_axle]

Remember that because you are moving the derailleur outboard, you have to adjust both the High and Low limit screws. These adjustments control the path of the chain relative to the frame. If not right, they can cause the chain to jamb in between the frame and cassette or not shift properly.

[@danbrom88]

Great video! Is this derailer a short or medium cage? I have an older Shimano 105 short cage and trying to go to a 11-36 rear cassette. You think the wolf tooth will work although it says it needs a medium cage on the package? I never cross chain

[@pedalpowercycling]

It should work however with the small ring up front you might only be able to use a the largest 3 or for gears. I think mine is a medium cage but it's small for a mountain bike.

[@austincaley5007]

@@pedalpowercycling l have the same set up the old 105 rear derailer can run a 30 rear no problem l have this set up,but l to would like a 34/36 rear so may give this a go.thanks for the vid.

[@FrankZen]

This is an excellent video! I have the same extender I'll be installing this week!

[@pedalpowercycling]

Cool! Good luck!

[@juliojimenez4103]

No necesitaba extender la pata de cambio, solo cortar un par de eslabones la cadena

[@DMW2000]

Great video. Thanks!!!

[@HoratioChapin]

I'm trying to gather as much info as possible before attempting this mod. Will the extender work on an 8-speed road bike? I would like to switch from a 12-25 cassette to an 11-32. Is that a reasonable choice? Thanks for the informative video!!

[@pedalpowercycling]

If you have 8 speed shimano then I'd switch to an 8 or 9 speed rear derailleur. The cable pull should be the same and then you don't need the extender.

[@matmerah3700]

I using Sram Red Yellow Limited Tour Edition 10 speed. Does the extender works with Sram RD. Before I'm using Dura ace 12x27 when I use 11x28 the jockey wheel rub against the 28 sprocket, so I use longer B screw. That solve that issue but now I wanted to use 11x32.

[@pedalpowercycling]

It should work however your smaller gears won't get as good shifting.

[@pierrex3226]

Very interesting. Thinking about building a 2x gravel, but not sure about gearing yet. This can help. You can probably climb up a tree with a 34x34 or 34x36?

[@pedalpowercycling]

I have 34 front 40 rear on my gravel bike and can't climb a tree but I'm not a strong rider. My Mtb is 22 front 36 rear on a 29er and that's lower gearing than the gravel bike.

[@macboat1]

I currently have a 1x 36t chainring up front and 11x46t 10 speed cassette in the rear. I'd like to change to a 1x 42t chainring up front. Will a rear derailleur hanger extender help with this setup as well?

[@pedalpowercycling]

It should but Wolftooth says it's compatible with cassettes up to 40T only for 1x or 36t for 2x. It might not work.

[@busterlynch5278]

A very informative and helpful video, thanks.

[@pedalpowercycling]

You're welcome, stay tuned I should make another video with more options for low gears.

[@bluenote1412]

I have an 11x28 cassette 10 speed. Can I replace it with 11x36t and just add the extender? Mine is SRam apex (short). Thank you 🙏

[@pedalpowercycling]

You'll probably need a medium or long cage unless you're going 1x up front.

[@joseleal3500]

I have a similar case. I want to move up to 12/30 with a 10s Sram red RD? Short. Does it mean I need to get a Shimano RD? I actually may have the same Giant TCR Adv..tks

[@pedalpowercycling]

The 12-30 may fit with just the adjustment of the b-screw. You can fit a MTb rear derailleur most likely by SRAM if you want lower gears.

[@carpetwheel7787]

Very informative! Thank you!

[@pedalpowercycling]

You're welcome, I'm planning on making another more detailed video for low gearing options. Stay tuned!

[@treymorant905]

hi sir can this go with my 50/34t chainring, its ultegra, thankyou sir!

[@pedalpowercycling]

Yes that's what I'm using.

[@treymorant905]

@@pedalpowercycling thanks mate!

[@treymorant905]

@@pedalpowercycling do you think this can work on ultegra di2 or latest ultegra?

[@akihiko_4147]

why my chains don't last on 1st-3 gear after I changed hanger extender?

[@pedalpowercycling]

Can you clarify your question? Does it jump or skip gears on the largest teeth?

[@akihiko_4147]

@@pedalpowercycling It jumps to the largest teeth but after 10 seconds the chain will disconnect and you need to put it back to pedal it again. Forgive my bad English, Im also a beginner and I don't know much

[@akihiko_4147]

@@pedalpowercycling We are returning that time and i noticed that my chains that are already in the smallest gear is so light to pedal that i feel that my chains are in the biggest gear but it's not in the biggest gear its in the smallest one

[@pedalpowercycling]

@@akihiko_4147 I'm not sure what's happening if it's the smallest gear and too easy to pedal then is it jumping teeth? Is your cassette and chain worn out? Or has the paws in your rear hub worn out? If so you may need a new hub or rear wheel.