How to install the Victron Energy SmartShunt IP65

[@ProMace]

I'm going to build my own ESS over the next couple of weeks and I'm absolutely blown away by Victron's ecosystem. It may cost more than some other brands, but everything just screams QUALITY! 🤩

[@VictronEnergyBV]

Have fun!

[@UKsystems]

Qualities definitely what you want because you don’t want to realise after you’ve spent hundreds on expensive cables terminations and everything else that you need to replace a part

[@mozismobile]

Feels weird not to have Jono's voice here. But a welcome change nonetheless.

[@matthewpaull7362]

Is a fuse not recommended between the shunt and battery negative? What about the sum of all load/charge currents exceeding the cable or shunt rating?

[@JohannesBoonstra-ol2nz]

the fuse is often in the plus lead, but can indeed also be in the minus. When the load or charge current exceeds the 500A of this model you can choose for the 1000A or even 2000A version

[@matthewpaull7362]

Ok thanks. Should all currents by summed, or should the loads be summed, and the chargers subtracted, as the current flow from the chargers would be in the opposite direction (through the shunt) than the loads. Ie net positive vs net negative charging.

[@JohannesBoonstra-ol2nz]

its about worst case, whats the maximal charge current and/or whats the maximal discharge current @@matthewpaull7362

[@Sidicas]

Glad I discovered this fancy little doohickey.

[@bullejos1]

Hola, una pregunta el negativo out del orion donde va conectado al negativo de la bateria habitaculo ó al sistema del smartshunt? Muchas gracias por tu ayuda

[@hodadyou]

We have 2 48v (100x4 Lifpo4s x2) battery banks. Both lead to our MultiPLus-II 48/3000... via a common busbar. Can we use the auxiliary wire to monitor the second battery bank?

[@caravansbythecampfire]

Hi, great video, I have one of these shunts - I also have a Redarc dcdc charger. My question is, the charger will not work unless I provide an additional ground earth in addition to running its earth to the shunt, why would this be?

[@Rockabuy2002]

Will this device have any effect on my smart charger? Also, I leave my boat for six month periods, if you disconnect positive lead to battery, does that result in zero amp draw? Don’t want dead battery when I return.

[@johannesboonstra6917]

the smartshunt is not effecting the charger. When leaving the boat the main switch prevents the discharge, so also the smartshunt is off. At return you need to recharge the battery and with this the correct state of charge will appear

[@joblack3991]

In case, I have got a battery with BMS and this one is connected to the inverter via VE.Can protocol, do I need this shunt to determine the SOC of the battery or not?

[@JLCRobotics-PhilDenton]

My system is 24V but actually has two 12V batteries wired in series. Can I still use the Smart Shunt, as long as I make sure I install it in between the 'second' battery and the load/system? I will put positive on the 'second' battery (closest to load/system) as well.

[@johannesboonstra6917]

yes, two serial connected batteries are basically a single 24V battery

[@vincecarluccio5018]

My house battery is under my Class B van. I'm concerned the bluetooth may not be in range and will be shielded if I'm trying to read the display on my phone while inside the van. Is it possible to still connect an external display via a wire connection such as one of your BMV devices?

[@arneparneby1330]

Great video that i looked at before purchasing my Smartshunt. But there are a detail disturbing me and that is putting the positive ringlug (from the smartshunt) with the wrong hole size for the bolt between the battery post and the negative ringlug, this is degrading the contact to the negative battery post.

[@andysaward2232]

Hi, I just tidied up the wiring in my engine bay and shortened the red AUX Smartshunt wire to about 200mm - now the starter battery voltage reads about 0.33v although the battery is fully charged. Is the length of the red wire critical for accurate readings, or could it be the new ferrule I fitted not making proper contact? Thanks.

[@johannesboonstra6917]

no, as there is no current there the length would not have an effect , a bad connection would..

[@royireland1127]

My battery box is basically a fully enclosed steel box (i.e. below the middle step to the motor home). Will the blue tooth signal be able to escape the steel box, with the only ports being those for the heavy wires, and reach my phone?

[@UKsystems]

Potentially not do you require an IP rated model? If not I would recommend a p.m. fee pantry monitor as it has a very small display and the Bluetooth chip is that so you can route the cable outside. Or there may be a chance that you could use a Bluetooth dongle on this.

[@taskelam8937]

How long can the SmartShunt save the logs for later retrieval if I'm using the phone app only every once in a while to check on it?

[@mattwalker534]

If your system has a cerbo, you can insert an SD card for several months of data storage offline.

[@fisherguy]

So if you don't have a cerbo it soesn't save any data when you log into the app to see what happened earlier that day? Guess I need to get me a cerbo.

[@UKsystems]

@@fisherguy it really depends on what you have, but you can always use a raspberry pie to make your own unit quite cheaply

[@Franciscodeviaje]

Hello! What happens if i do not connect the starter (main) Battery of the Load Side of the Shunt, instead of this i connect to The battery side, cause I got two batterys in parallel (main battery engine bay and second battery on the trunk) Both work for the car, winch, lights, etc. Both are charged in parallel by the alternator. I just only want to know information or status when my car is off, and the freezers and camping lights or inverter are running (engine off, car stoped). I got incorrect capacity measurements? Or it can work normally. Thank for the help in advance

[@jaycarneygiants]

Will this work on a 24 volt battery?

[@johannesboonstra6917]

of course ;-)

[@sasstewart1222]

Can this connect to a BMV-712? my current shunt got damaged with water and would love to replace it with this.

[@VictronEnergyBV]

No, the SmartShunt IP65 is a battery monitor with shunt in 1 unit. The SmartShunt IP65 does not work with the BMV, it's a replacement of the BMV, only then without a display. Your phone with VictronConnect acts as the display.

[@johannesboonstra6917]

@@Lordlindef ??? I am afraid you dont understand ....When you have a BMV with defective shunt, you can order very simply a new PCB for the shunt of course, but using a SmartShunt for this is replacing the complete BMV for something else.

[@johannesboonstra6917]

@@Lordlindef I am sorry but this is nonsense....When you exchange a product with a product with a display with a product without a display you cannot complain there is no option for a display! , then you should have replaced the initial product with one WITH a display. The Smartshunt is a product that many users like a lot BECAUSE it doesnt have a display so can be nicely connected to a Cerbo or other display.

[@JLCRobotics-PhilDenton]

Good question but I doubt it. From what little I've learned on KZbin tonight, he BMV 712 is talking canbus to the actual batteries. This smart shunt is measuring consumption as it flows through.

[@mylife-vitadabarcaavela9919]

Complimenti per le spiegazioni, ho una domanda mi dicono che il BMS della Victorn non funziona con batterie di case diverse dalla vostra è vero? Grazie mille

[@johannesboonstra6917]

Not really understand if there is a question.

[@mylife-vitadabarcaavela9919]

@@johannesboonstra6917 si si 😁 bms della Victorn funziona con batterie litio cinesi?

[@VictronEnergyBV]

@@mylife-vitadabarcaavela9919 Yes, as the combination BMS and lithium cells is essential for balancing, safety and reliability. We strongly advise to have that from the same manufacture. So therefore we have decided to have the BMS /match the battery.

[@carlos76437]

Thanks for the video. May i just ask something: my habitation battery is grounded to the vehicle chassis. Where should i connect the ground cable? Load minus? Battery minus? Directly on the battery negative? Thanks in advance. Cheers

[@johannesboonstra6917]

the shunt comes between the minus of the battery and the chassis, grounding on the chassis as well

[@AndrewPorter-u5s]

is it a problem to connect the red wire to the + side of a battery disconnect switch so the IP65 does not drain the battery say if stored for several weeks?

[@alanloughman]

Any ideas why a multiplus 2 is not reading the correct voltage %of my batteries but my mart shunt is ..

[@SabretoothBarnacle]

Does updating the firmware loose/reset the accuracy of the SOC%?

[@johannesboonstra6917]

A reset requires a new charge cycle indeed

[@SabretoothBarnacle]

@@johannesboonstra6917 Thank you 😁

[@victrontech]

There is a new function which allows you to go to the original soc after reset

[@jarrodwareham4565]

How do u connect it to 2 batteries mines not reading with the shunt properly

[@johannesboonstra6917]

? The two batteries are parallel? then there is a common minus right? Thats the location you have the shunt installed.

[@richarddouglas5656]

can I connect the smart shunt to a home internet connection?

[@johannesboonstra6917]

When using a CerboGX that would be possible The shunt itself doesn’t have a LAN port

[@Cacheola]

Hey guys. How do I configure your system to factor in solar/alternator/charger current in? I'd like to know what's coming in and what's going out. Thanks!

[@UKsystems]

You program it there’s different ways depending on the system

[@zkadems]

Hiya Victron, I've read a lot of claims that the bluetooth range is often less than 1m, is this a known fault or a known limitation of the product? Also, does the unit itself save the history? Or does the charge history reset every time the phone is disconnected. The product looks amazing aside from these concerns :D

[@richardb8492]

This is kind of true and untrue. The range is extremely limited if you want to go in to the app and view the all important live data, basically it won’t connect but if you just want to see the limited data on the tiny opening page of the app then the range is great and sometimes I can exceed 10mtrs. The same goes for other Victron devices and is completely useless for their smart chargers that don’t give you any information unless you go into the app. The only up side of the lack of information for the smart chargers is that they really don’t need to be looked at unless you just want to see stuff. Honest opinion? Get the BMV712 with the Bluetooth option because you get much better range on the wired screen than you do with the Bluetooth.

[@JLCRobotics-PhilDenton]

​@@richardb8492 Is the BMV712 compatible with this smart shunt? I have an industrial robot with lead acid batteries but I plan to swap those batteries very soon with lithium ion, which means my old school power meter won't work. I'm hoping to find a simple and cost-effective replacement!

[@johannesboonstra6917]

@@richardb8492 well the shunt is effective a block of metal , this isn't very good for conducting bt signals. so when the connection box is " in between" the shunt itself and a metal enclosure /chassis, yes then the range is limited. when the box is "open " and there are not metal covers ect preventing the signal, the range is quite high

[@richardb8492]

@@JLCRobotics-PhilDenton the BMV-712 come with its own shunt, screen and Bluetooth. I also believe the Bluetooth signal comes from the screen so if it is mounted in clear view then the signal should improve.

[@JLCRobotics-PhilDenton]

@@richardb8492 Uhoh. We just ordered one of these (the Smart Shunt) from Amazon yesterday. It was only $130 and thankfully Amazon is good with returns so if the shunt has terrible range as described here, we'll just return it.

[@marionoppe5707]

But what is the solution when the load is grounded by the chassis? An old school alternator for example? How do you want to measure the current and show it on a Cerbo?

[@johannesboonstra6917]

then the minus of the battery needs to be detached from the chassis en in-between there the shunt is placed.

[@marionoppe5707]

@@johannesboonstra6917 Thanks

[@tbyteflight8378]

Hallo Victron Team, Wird es für die orion 12 12 30 auch eine neue sw / fw geben die den shunt erkennt oder den temperatur Fühler im ve smart networking. Vielleicht sogar die bv712 ? Das wäre super, dann erkennt der booster wenn unter 1 Grad und kann wie der 12 12 50 mit Spannungabfall rechnen. Gruß Thomas

[@radulazar8056]

Hello! Do you have any idea how to set a maximum load limit? For example 90% or 95%, to protect the battery? Thank you!

[@JohannesBoonstra-ol2nz]

the smart shunt is a measuring device, it cannot control a load or such I am afraid.

[@radulazar8056]

Thank you! @@JohannesBoonstra-ol2nz

[@radulazar8056]

Thank you! @@JohannesBoonstra-ol2nz

[@practicaltactical1336]

What is the electrical system? The solar charge controller or the inverter?

[@JohannesBoonstra-ol2nz]

All , beside the battery

[@sleddy01]

Just give us the temperature sensor, c'mon. Make the price $112 instead of $111.

[@UKsystems]

The reason why isn’t included is simply because so many people use this does not warrant it

[@johnmachter40]

is the shunt needed? im asking because every multiplus has its own battery monitor that is shown in vrm and in VE Configure app. Why two devices that measure the SoC?

[@johannesboonstra6917]

When there ia ONLY AC loads and charging by the multi, then there is no shunt needed. in other cases there is as you would "misread " the current

[@Jhovan33]

You don't mention if the multiplus II inverter/charger can use the shunt info to better charge the battery??? Or shut down the inverter if battery is low.

[@johannesboonstra6917]

Thats also not the case, the SmartShunt does monitoring only.

[@UKsystems]

Because they shouldn’t need to they offer free online training courses to teach you how to do this but the most plus male or may not sing is if you simply have a multiply to a battery it’s more likely to be able to keep track but when it’s a bigger more complex system, it’s a mathematical nightmare to use the devices individual data to work out the information that the shunt could provide

[@JeroenVerhoef]

Oke maar nu heb ik een vraag, hoe controleer je nu aparte start accu en 3 accus die in serie staan

[@johannesboonstra6917]

de shunt kan serie geschakelde accu meten, de Plus komt op de accu op de hoogste plus , de plus van de start accu uitlezing komt op de start accu plus

[@fredericmastronardi6939]

Bonjour,j'ai une batterie superpack 12v 100Ah lifepo4 victron ,que je dois installer dans mon fourgon ,puis je l'installer coucher sur le flanc ? Merci d 'avance

[@mahmoudaswad]

I have a lithium ion battery. Can smartshunt I install it on a car battery?

[@johannesboonstra6917]

yes that's no problem , try installing the shunt clean as possible of course.

[@deumerguy]

PLEASE, Which cable (how are called the endings of the cable and where are they going to....) should be between smart shunt and cerbo GX for communication ? It seams such a cable was not in my original recieved boxes . Sorry but you go to fast with the vodeo for good understanding.

[@simon359]

If you have two separate battery banks, and each has a Victron shunt. I was wondering why you couldn’t have two separate charge parameters. In other words, if one battery bank says 55.2, according to the manufacturer, and the other says 56.5 the shunt is dictating to each battery bank what the charge would be?

[@johannesboonstra6917]

Hello, If you have two isolated battery banks, you need two shunts to measure and can make settings per bank then.

[@simon359]

@@johannesboonstra6917 Unfortunately, so for the battery banks are very misaligned! One is getting three or four times more input when the suns out and using three or four times more when the sun goes down? One battery bank is BattleBorn Batteries and one is SOK. Both are 16S 12.8 voltage. Both wired to 48 V. I’ve tried different settings, but it doesn’t seem to make a difference. 🧐

[@johannesboonstra6917]

@@simon359 i dont understand what you say, you have two shunts ? then you can make the settings required per bank right ?

[@simon359]

@@johannesboonstra6917 I’ve been told by others that you have to use the same charge settings on both shunts. I split the difference between 56.5 (battleborn bank) on one shunt and 55.2 (SOK bank) on the other. so I put them both at 56 V. They’re all on one network. 🖖

[@johannesboonstra6917]

@@simon359 the both shunt shown their own calculations , what the other is set at isn't relevant in any way for the other

[@CapalOnLive]

IP65 is the reference of the product ? is not reference of ISO ? ref : ISO 16750-4 / ISO 20 653-2013 / IEC 60529 / D55 1112

[@johannesboonstra6917]

A IP rating is the type enclosure/ water resistness

[@skid4482]

So I installed the smart shunt. it counts down from 100. 99%,98%....but if I have no load it doesn't start to count upward. Just resets back to 100% when batteries are fully charged. Everyone else says theirs will count up also. What am I doing wrong?

[@JohannesBoonstra-ol2nz]

could it be the minus lead of the charge source is hooked up on the battery instead of the load side of the shunt?

[@robertstuckle6198]

Hello, you should have a shunt or DC Meter for the positive wire. You can sell so much more Shunts when it's ready as a DC Meter and show on the GX.

[@victrontech]

Hello Well actually that doesn’t matter installation wise, but in the minus it’s lots more safe

[@robertstuckle6198]

@Victron Tech But what is the solution when the load is grounded by the chassis? An old school alternator for example? How do you want to measure the current and show it on a Cerbo?

[@MHawkeye]

@@robertstuckle6198 as they stated, the device will still work if mounted on the positive side. Negative is just the safer route.

[@robertstuckle6198]

Thank you

[@patricklyons7683]

Wish you'd allow both Cerbo-GX & Global link 520 on one system, so that a hidden GPS signal can be used to track vehicle or boat. Outside the remit of most victron user's or criminals monitoring technology advances'

[@johannesboonstra6917]

Its also possible to add a GPS usb in the Cerbo , then the location is also known.

[@odelekevictor3895]

I have tried updating the firmware of a victron Smartsolar charge controller and it never worked ever since then. It keeps the yellow error led light. All attempts to fix this was never resolved. Kindly help. How do I correct it ?

[@johannesboonstra6917]

best is to show the dealer whats happening and have them help on this

[@robshao218]

We need 3phase NV system We need a higher range for mppts we need a deye allin one sun 12k from victron we need Charging station with OCCP RFID MODBUS TCP ACCOUNTING Ticketing

[@BulletsBielefeld]

4:24 I wish the update went like in the video - it's been at 31% for 30 minutes.... I hate it

[@johannesboonstra6917]

sorry to hear its not working, you have tried with another phone/tablet as well?

[@MHawkeye]

sounds like an internet stability issue.

[@BulletsBielefeld]

@@MHawkeye it seems to be a known problem. On the second try it was problem-free

[@UKsystems]

Half these comments aren’t bad but they show a lack of understanding things like vaulted rating all current rating. Please just check the data sheet and a lot of questions are asked about how exactly you connect different things. You don’t understand it enough. It’s not necessarily bad thing but you should probably educate yourself with Victron training courses.

[@Death88758]

Maybe I'm stupid but makes no sense to me,how do you connect the solar charger after the shunt if the battery negative it's connected to the shunt,where do you connect the negative of the solar charge controller.

[@johannesboonstra6917]

Only the battery minus comes on the battery side of the shunt , All other minus leads are on the systems side

[@Mike-s9p6d]

Yes

[@다양한일들]

Generator not detected at AC-input changed from 'Alarm' to 'No alarm'

[@johannesboonstra6917]

this is a question? could you rephrase please

[@다양한일들]

@@johannesboonstra6917 My system is electricity, generator, and solar. However, when the country's electricity comes on and the electricity is weak, the generator runs, but the generator does not become a dictator. Why is that? Thanks Park

[@johannesboonstra6917]

@@다양한일들 dictator? You means isn't used? the AC1 is the priority input , AC2 is secondary. So if you have the generator on AC1 this will be overruling the AC2 were the grid is on.

[@jesseadams1986]

👍

[@schrodingerscat7218]

Parameters.

[@arttu4313]

Not really good practice to use cable lugs with M10 holes to connect to an M6 bolt.

[@DENMONKEY]

that has to be the ugliest battery terminal Ive ever seen. not to mention the install for an official video. those screws are cheap as and only 2 in the cerbo ? I think this needs an update victron

[@gatecrasher1970]

poor customer service

[@johannesboonstra6917]

Anything I can help you on?