I didn't imagine that the shots obtained with the filter were only used to obtain a mask on which to add color. This gives you total control over each area with ha. Thank you very much for this contribution!!!
@johnrutterphotographyАй бұрын
It's a great way to have full control over what you deem as " natural " looking
@SeryZoneX14 күн бұрын
+ This method made my day.
@CapturetheAtlas10 ай бұрын
World-class as always mate!! I remember shooting that night together and chatting about this. Thanks for being so open and sharing your process!!
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Cheers Dan 🍻 my pleasure mate 👍
@nightscapeimages.richard10 ай бұрын
Great instruction here John. Lots of work in this considering the capture process as well in the field.
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Thanks Richard 👍 it's alot of work for sure and definitely not for everyone
@mariopereira826110 ай бұрын
Fantastic video Jonh, thanks for sharing your techniques. His photos are a delight to the eyes. Thank you very much John😀👏👏👏
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Thanks mate 👍 much appreciated
@flobeau232010 ай бұрын
Hi John! Thank you very much for sharing these great tips with clarity. There is no easy way to achieve this kind of work but I like yours for its straightforwardness. Would be great to have next a short vid about your workflow used in the field to shot the Ha/RGB images.
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, it's probably the easiest way I've found to do it so far, there are "better" ways but it gets so technical and takes the fun out of post processing
@ScenicSouthNZ10 ай бұрын
Great work mate. Lots of good info. Nice simple workflow which I like.
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Thanks mate 👍 I appreciate it
@owainscullion73738 ай бұрын
Awesome John! your the unsung hero of the Astro community!
@johnrutterphotography8 ай бұрын
Not sure about that, but I appreciate that none the less 👍
@robvercouteren10 ай бұрын
Whoa, pure enjoying. Crazy good content. I soaked it in like sponge. Thanks for sharing the insights.
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
My pleasure mate, glad you enjoyed it. Hope it helps
@ilikeglobox4 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing video, John. Thanks for sharing such valuable process and tips, I do really appreciate it!
@MickLoxleyPhotography8 ай бұрын
Hey John, great video mate. I recently grabbed a HA filter for DSO’s and have planned to do some wide field stuff before Orion sets. Your vid on how to bring it all together has inspired me, thanks mate 🍻
@johnrutterphotography8 ай бұрын
Awesome mate! Glad it helped.
@MattyRacingLife10 ай бұрын
Great video, Thanks JR. I've always shot the whole sky with my HR camera, then just tried to stretch the sky. Seems I have been doing it wrong... very wrong haha! Thanks again, Great video!
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, 👍 I wouldn't say your doing it wrong, there are so many ways to do it and this is just the way I'm doing it at the moment. Hope it helps
@MattyRacingLife10 ай бұрын
Absolutely helps! Another great video! Cheers, @@johnrutterphotography
@gr-astro10 ай бұрын
Great video John. I struggle integrating H-alpha data into RGB images accurately (esp. in red channel). They are a nightmare to line up as both images will usually differ slightly in composition. I use screen and free transform too but especially like your use of puppet warp and colorize. Nice one from the cloudy North. :)😃
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Thanks mate, this method is working OK for me at the moment but I'm sure it will evolve over time, glad you got something out of it 👍
@geoffsharpe645610 ай бұрын
Hi John, Can you clear up a few things for me please? You used an Astronomik H-alpha 12nm CCD Clip-Filter Sony alpha 7 to isolate the narrow bang Ha data. What camera did you put the clip in filter into? A full spectrum camera or an Ha+Visible modified camera? You also mentioned that you would stack multiple images of narrow band data of the Ha regions of the sky and later on, in editing, just add the narrow band data to the RGB image. You suggested that this data is your narrow band data map of a particular region of the sky, say Orion and that you could use this data in any image at a future date because narrow band Ha data will not change unless there is an astronomical event. So once you have shot the images, you don't need to really ever shoot that region of sky again. Thanks for the live stream John. 👍😎😁
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Hey Geoff, it was used in a Ha + visible camera, but it doesn't make a difference if it's full spectrum because we are putting the filter in front of the sensor and only letting in Ha. Any yes once you have a "library " or stacks of all the different parts of the sky that have nebulosity you don't need to shoot Ha ever again if you choose not to.
@Anadrolus3 ай бұрын
@@johnrutterphotography that's so interesting to know, many thanks
@StonehengeDronescapes10 ай бұрын
Canon drop in filters are the way...i used to use clip in's but it was a right faff and always felt i'd end up dropping a lens. You can get the Meike clear filter and swap any 2" filter glass for the clear glass if you don't mind tinkering. I have the L-enhance to try out for my drop in system when the clouds bugger off.
@gr-astro10 ай бұрын
I use a Canon 6D so I don't think there is a drop in filter adaptor available for this model. The drop in adaptor is only for mirrorless / Ra camera models right??
@StonehengeDronescapes10 ай бұрын
@@gr-astro Yes only the R range for use with EF lenses.
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
It's definitely a great system, would love if sony did something similar so I could do it without having to buy all different lenses
@Anadrolus3 ай бұрын
@@johnrutterphotography I'm using Canon lenses on my Sony to use these HA drop in filters in the Meike adapter, I have the Astronomik filter but I was told by a famous astro photographer that it doesn't work well compared to the drop in filter.
@paradiseburns260010 ай бұрын
This was a great tutorial. I Learnt a lot watching it.
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Awesome 👌 glad you got something out of it
@rafaibanez41739 ай бұрын
Great Video! Greetings from Spain!
@johnrutterphotography9 ай бұрын
Thanks mate! 👍
@ujjwaldatta6713Ай бұрын
Hi John! Just saw this video. Outstanding tutorial my friend. I just wanted to clarify something. You shot the RGB panorama, stitched it and got it ready as a "base layer". Then you shot only the Ha-rich areas such as the Gum, Orion complex, California, Flaming Star, etc and took several Ha images to stack. Then you masked it using the Overlay method and then copied them over the RGB panorama base layer and used Free Transform, Puppet Warp etc to align the Ha signals over the RGB in just those specific areas needing the Ha enhancement. You also duplicated the layers to control your Ha edits for certain parts of the image such as the lower end of the Gum and upper end of the Gum individually and then masked and got rid of the unwanted part after colorizing. Is this summation of your technique accurate? Thanks.
@johnrutterphotographyАй бұрын
That's correct mate, although I don't use overlay, use the screen or lighten blend mode.
@ericwilkes184010 ай бұрын
Great information John, thank heaps
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
My pleasure Eric 👍
@bikramghosh19 ай бұрын
@johnrutterphotography John I'm trying to understand the requirement for widefield in general. Stupid question - is thw RGB simply an image captured with the camera as is i.e. be it modded or not. And the H-alpha one is with a H-alpha narrowband filter? Would you add yhe filter for a modded camera as well or just stock camera? Basically what I'm trying to understand is why would you need Halpha filter on H-alpha modded camera? Sorry for this rather stupid question
@johnrutterphotography9 ай бұрын
Yes the rgb part can be with either a modified camera or a standard camera. The narrowband filter needs to be on a modified camera, the filter ONLY let's in H alpha light, a standard camera filters out most H alpha light so if you try and use it on a standard camera you are only letting in light that your camera can't see so it won't work well. Because the filter only let's in H alpha light it cuts out the moon light, light pollution, it's not absolutely necessary but just another tool in the bag to help bring out the nebulosity
@akkarparkiamopas34013 ай бұрын
Hi John, Thanks for this useful video. How do you do manual focus through the HA filter? We would barely see the stars through it , wouldn't we?
@callmewhite10 ай бұрын
This was a great help mate, definitely going to invest in the Astronomik 12nm I think. Do you ever bother doing flats/darks/biases, or do you just rely on the profile corrections for vignetting etc? Keep up the good work!
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Cheers mate, I have dabbled in calibration frames but I don't see the need for them with wide angle lenses for the amount of work it is, for longer focal length stuff they make a huge difference
@huyballack2 ай бұрын
You said you shoot the HA at f1.4. Do you use the Astronomik Max FR version or just the normal astronomik?
@amacmedia322110 ай бұрын
Absolute class mate, I really appreciate you doing this. Sorry I wasn’t on the chat earlier or I’d have these 2 questions then, firstly is there any apps that show where Hydrogen Alpha is in our night skies, as just wondering if it’s just the Orion area when trying to shoot a pano here in Scotland? And also is Astro Pixel Processor better than Starry landscape stacker for stacking the HA images?
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Hey mate, I'm not sure about apps, you can just look at images that are HaRGB like mine to tell where everything is, I haven't done a test between starry landscape stacker and app but I couldn't see there being any difference except that app gives a black and white image and starry landscape stacker you need to do the extra step in PS of extracting the red channel
@flobeau232010 ай бұрын
I know Sky Safari Pro app has a function to display the objects in the night sky in Halpha signal. It is a very good night sky app but it is not free.
@amacmedia322110 ай бұрын
@@johnrutterphotography cheers mate, I’ll definitely be trying this out when we next have clear skies
@amacmedia322110 ай бұрын
@@flobeau2320 thanks, I’ll have a look at this
@amacmedia322110 ай бұрын
@@johnrutterphotography what were your exposure times for your RGB frames, 1x 60 seconds, or would you shoot longer or stack each frame?
@paiged1862 ай бұрын
Hi John - can your technique be used for MW images that are not Panos?I use Pixinsight right now, but like your technique...
@Anadrolus3 ай бұрын
Amazing video thank you so much ! I'm hesitating to buy 2 Benro Polaris, as they make auto panos, I plan to shoot at the same time one "normal shots", and one HA shots, would merging the 2 work please ? (I have two astromod A7R3).
@gsalvcua10 ай бұрын
Muchas gracias por compartir.
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
Your welcome mate 👍
@luminitaquraishi53498 ай бұрын
Hello from Canberra
@johnrutterphotography8 ай бұрын
Hello luminita! Hope your doing well
@dhmccauley10 ай бұрын
Hey John. I sent a message to you on your website. I'd like to reach out to ask you a question on something i'm seeing with the Sony a7 cameras that i'd like to confirm. Could you reach out to me at your convenience? Thanks so much!
@johnrutterphotography10 ай бұрын
I sent you an email mate
@andysuzierawlins546221 күн бұрын
One of my ha rgb images came out all wierd colours in screen, following starscaper
@johnrutterphotography15 күн бұрын
Yeah if you paste the Ha data in the red channel it makes the colours weird, follow this process for a natural sky colour
@andysuzierawlins546214 күн бұрын
@@johnrutterphotography but it worked for him, and I've tried it once and it worked but this time it didn't and I couldn't understand, neither could starscaper