How to launch THE SONIC CINEMATIC UNIVERSE (even without Jim Carrey)

Paramount wants to make Sonic Movies an Avengers-Level event, here's how they could NAIL IT.
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Sonic the Hedgehog[a] is a video game series and media franchise created by the Japanese developers Yuji Naka, Naoto Ohshima, and Hirokazu Yasuhara for Sega. The franchise follows Sonic, an anthropomorphic blue hedgehog who battles the evil Doctor Eggman, a mad scientist. The main Sonic the Hedgehog games are platformers mostly developed by Sonic Team; other games, developed by various studios, include spin-offs in the racing, fighting, party and sports genres. The franchise also incorporates printed media, animations, feature films, and merchandise.
Naka, Ohshima, and Yasuhara developed the first Sonic game, released in 1991 for the Sega Genesis, to provide Sega with a mascot to compete with Nintendo's Mario. Its success helped Sega become one of the leading video game companies during the fourth generation of video game consoles in the early 1990s. Sega Technical Institute developed the next three Sonic games, plus the spin-off Sonic Spinball (1993). A number of Sonic games were also developed for Sega's 8-bit consoles, the Master System and Game Gear. After a hiatus during the unsuccessful Saturn era, the first major 3D Sonic game, Sonic Adventure, was released in 1998 for the Dreamcast. Sega exited the console market and shifted to third-party development in 2001, continuing the series on Nintendo, Xbox, and PlayStation systems. Takashi Iizuka has been the series' producer since 2010.
While Sonic games often have unique game mechanics and stories, they feature recurring elements such as the ring-based health system, level locales, and fast-paced gameplay. Games typically feature Sonic setting out to stop Eggman's schemes for world domination, and the player navigates levels that include springs, slopes, bottomless pits, and vertical loops. Later games added a large cast of characters; some, such as Miles "Tails" Prower, Knuckles the Echidna, and Shadow the Hedgehog, have starred in spin-offs. The franchise has crossed over with other video game franchises in games such as Mario & Sonic, Sega All-Stars, and Super Smash Bros.
Sonic the Hedgehog is Sega's flagship franchise and one of the bestselling video game franchises, selling over 140 million units by 2016 and grossing over $5 billion as of 2014. Series sales and free-to-play mobile game downloads totaled 1.6 billion as of 2023. The Genesis Sonic games have been described as representative of the culture of the 1990s and listed among the greatest of all time. Although later games, notably the 2006 game, received poorer reviews, Sonic is influential in the video game industry and is frequently referenced in popular culture. The franchise is known for its fandom that produces unofficial media, such as fan art and fangames.
Sonic the Hedgehog[b] is a 2020 action-adventure comedy film based on the video game series of the same name published by Sega. The film was directed by Jeff Fowler and written by Pat Casey and Josh Miller. It stars Ben Schwartz (as the voice of Sonic the Hedgehog) and Jim Carrey. The plot follows Sonic, a blue anthropomorphic hedgehog who can run at supersonic speeds, who teams up with a town sheriff to stop mad scientist Dr. Robotnik.
Development for a Sonic film began in the 1990s but did not leave the planning stage until Sony Pictures acquired the film rights in 2013. Fowler was brought in to direct in 2016. After Sony put the project in turnaround, Paramount Pictures acquired it in 2017. Most of the cast signed on by August 2018. Principal photography took place between September and October that year in Vancouver and on Vancouver Island. Following the negative reaction to the first trailer's reveal of Sonic's appearance in April 2019, Paramount delayed the film release by three months to redesign Sonic.
Sonic the Hedgehog premiered at the Paramount Pictures studio lot on January 25, 2020, before its theatrical release in the United States on February 14, and received mixed reviews from critics. It set the record for the biggest opening weekend for a video game film in the United States and Canada and grossed $319.7 million worldwide, becoming the sixth highest-grossing film of 2020 and the highest-grossing video game film adaptation in North America until it was surpassed by its sequel, Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (2022).
A third film, Sonic the Hedgehog 3, is scheduled for release in December 2024. A spin-off miniseries, Knuckles, starring Idris Elba, is scheduled to premiere on Paramount+ in April 2024.
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[@RJH755]

Imagine if Sonic 06 was treated as an Infinity War/Endgame style two parter, would be the ultimate redemption arc

[@ljproductions4026]

Sega Better make a remake to that game making it similar to project 06 so then the movies can definitely make that type of movie

[@chemostar2361]

06 needs to be adapted. we need to see mephiles again

[@BDSFormula1]

Just fix the story

[@SBaby]

While I think they'll use the characters from 06 (like Silver, Blaze and even Mephiles), I don't think they'll end up using all of the game's story. More likely, they'll take elements and craft their own story out of them.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

​@@SBabyObv duh, literally what they did with S3&K to Sonic Movie 2

[@bluestreaksthehedgehog.]

To think we be in a time where Sonic of all people would get a cinematic universe...it feels a yesterday where people called him the laughing stock of gaming. Man how far we've come...

[@SBaby]

If I would've told people in the 90s that video game movies would eventually become a big deal and we'd have a Sonic Cinematic Universe of all things, they probably would've looked at me like you might look at a crazy person who decided to lay down and take a nap in the middle of the floor of your local mall.

[@rickyronny4019]

Despite its highs and lows. Sonic has come a long way

[@SBaby]

@@rickyronny4019 In alot of ways, yes. Even Frontiers in which I criticized the lack of difficulty balance in the DLC (don't feel too bad about that; I criticized that in Kingdom Hearts III too) took many MANY steps in the right direction.

[@rickyronny4019]

@@SBaby agreed. Sonic’s been doing well this decade

[@SBaby]

@@rickyronny4019 I just hope they keep it up. I've been hearing mixed opinions on the Knuckles miniseries. Hopefully it does well enough and the third movie does extremely well.

[@WakerOfTheCryingRain]

That thumbnail is the most cleanest rendition of movie sonic

[@featherguardian6023]

Honestly I’m ok if Jim doesn’t return as Eggman or gets Recasted as I have tons of respect for him that it would be a great way to say Goodbye to his Movie Career, as for how they can build a Cinematic Universe the Possibilities are Endless, especially when Paramount are allowed to adapt Adventure, 06, Heroes, CD, Riders, and Colors, the way I see it this is the Most Logical and Obvious Choice to Expand the Franchise.

[@oscarkambouris2212]

Honestly, I like how your Sonic 4 goes, but I would like this where Little Plannet come to earth and brings Amy and Metal, Sonic goes through his "Moving out" arc and then He as well as Tails, Knuckles and Amy restore Little Planet and it leaves earth. They also leave shadow behind for his spin off movie and done

[@aaritmitra625]

I like this idea. It seems to be the Avengers Endgame of Sonic, pulling out all the stops from Sonic's deep library.

[@KaleBennett]

I really hope this Sonic movie franchise won't shut down the possibility of other Sonic movies. It'd be nice to have something like Spider-Man where the MCU and Spider-Verse can showcase drastically different styles and depictions of the characters, as well as so that this current franchise can continue to do its own thing rather than shift to be solely game adaptations or be more like the Mario movie, which other Sonic movie franchises could do.

[@DanielKariuki-er5gi]

I like how the Sonic movies and Sonic Prime are kid-friendly and adult-friendly at the same time they're both for all audiences they're not just for kids and not just for adults and they're not as dark as some of the games or as childish as some of the games.

[@JakeNazzaro]

I really like that idea because it gives Paramount the options for several more Sonic movies.

[@hydrocityshark]

I think the idea of the trilogy serving as an origin story and Sonic becoming more like his game counterpart is the way to go. It would also be interesting to see how the Archie series could play in to the extended Sonic movies since you can only do so much with the games alone.

[@motherfuckingenterprises7436]

Doubt we would see the Archie cast back. They would probably do something with or like the IDW comics

[@hydrocityshark]

@@motherfuckingenterprises7436 I don’t need characters personally. Just some story arcs.

[@DanialDEcool]

9:43 Sonic has actually lost his rings. Unless knuckles has some spare, he’ll just run lol.

[@dragonclaw4159]

Funnily enough, the issue the archie comics had and paramount is going to need to address sooner or later is the same problem the avengers are dealing with right now. Look at the avengers pre endgame and post endgame and you'll see what I'm talking about.

[@chaoschannel3428]

I can see why people were worried that the movies would stop at 3, but tbh that was never gonna be the case. Paramount has gone on record saying they want to make more IP's, not to mention they're no stranger to long running franchises. Mission Impossible and Transformers are their biggest examples, both films 8+ movies strong. Hell, the Transformers films have been going for 15+ years now, and the Mission Impossible films have been going on almost as long as the Sonic series itself lmao.

[@TigerClaw305]

One of the movies should feature Sonic Riders, So that we can have Sonic on a hoverboard, and racing against Jet and Wave.

[@HellboyBr11]

It would be cool to have a race with several characters and a crazy prize behind it

[@snowdude8583]

yeah that would be a spin off movie

[@SketchingStep]

Honestly its not a bad idea for me. Maybe personally I hope Sonic 3 actually gives that “moving on” arc with Sonic and ends with him going back to his home world with Tails and Knuckles and any one else introduced. If they did that it would flow better with your Sonic 4 pitch.

[@bowserbreaker2515]

2:45 Yes, please. But I do like Ixis Naugus, he just wasn't handled well until 2011. And issues 201-212 didn't have Eggman, but that was meant to be temporary. Honestly, I'd want Naugus to be the new villain if they never use Eggman again.

[@SpiderGoblin2012]

I know everyone is tired of the multiverse, but I still want to see Sonic pull a NWH/Spider-Verse, and crossover with other versions of himself from throughout his history, because Sonic Prime didn't do that, even though it totally could've, and I want to see that happen so bad Yes it's cheap fan service, and fan service for the sake of it doesn't always pay off (see Multiverse of Madness and the Flash), but if you get the right team of writers together who understand what made each of these different versions work, and you could get something really special. And... it would be the perfect opportunity to bring back the Freedom Fighters... Which they should do anyway, because they're awesome, but honestly a big crossover cash cow like this is probably the best chance of us ever seeing them again officially, which is just... Really sad

[@heiress.]

With the Sonic x Shadow Generations bringing him back, I wouldn’t be surprised if we got a Black Doom cameo or ending credit scene. Shadow the Hedgehog is the second most popular character in the franchise, Paramount has the potential to make a lot of money with a Shadow spinoff especially with Keanu Reeves as Shadow.

[@ChannelPup]

I think the problem with that is that the Knuckles TV series allegedly features a gang of Black Market arms dealers called The Black Arms. They could retcon that though I guess.

[@Sone01TheFirst]

@@ChannelPup They can also give them a new name when adapting them, heck they could probably get away with not using the name and just refer to them as Black Doom's Invasion force or something.

[@ThomasFisher-jr6bn]

Your idea of Sonic Movie 4 transitioning to a fully animated series isn't that dissimilar to what the MonsterVerse is doing right now since it's slowly phasing the human characters out and the scenes that only focus on the kaiju are becoming more frequent.

[@HellboyBr11]

I wouldn't like that.

[@whydowelivejusttosuffer7704]

​@@HellboyBr11 who cares what you like, your a slub for boring slop by Paramount.

[@hydrocityshark]

@@HellboyBr11 I would. The other worlds acting as the Hollow Earth sound fine to me.

[@jaystew1158]

I always said they could go the Archie route and make Robotnik into Robo-Robotnik/Eggman. Here what I would predict would happen at the end of S3. After his 3rd lost to Sonic and his allies, he would retreat into the shadows. He would have Agent Stone sent out to recruit potential followers, empty out all his black sites to build his robotic army, using Sonic’s quill he would be in the first phase of building Metal Sonic. Since he seen what portal rings can do, he could replicate that and send his followers and armies to establish footholds in different corners of the universe. This would mark the beginning of the Eggman Empire. As for Sonic n the gang, Sonic and Tails would leave Earth together. Sonic would want to travel to sharpen his skills as a hero and gain better experience. Tails would still be in the sidekick phase but steadily grow n become more of a partner and hero in his own right. Knuckles would stay on Earth to protect the ME and safeguard the planet his Sonic’s place.

[@SBaby]

I definitely feel like there will be an Infinity War/Endgame-level event in the Sonic movies at some point. But I don't think it's going to be based on Sonic 06. It'll be something big, but I think it's going to be something else. Mind you, this is jumping ahead several movies, and we have to see if the movies even get to this point.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

Sonic Forces' story but good?

[@sebastianmartinez5963]

​@@whocaresaboutthename6850 The story of Forces can perfectly function as a mega event divided into 2 movies, because the story of Forces is literally about Eggman conquering 99% of the world and Sonic and his friends forming a resistance, starting a war to free the world from the tyranny of Eggman's Empire. Also, this story involves many characters such as Shadow, Silver, the Chaotix, Rouge, Omega, etc... The potential is there. They just need a writer who knows how to handle the story well.

[@thepopculturedude1606]

Honestly, I would not be surprised if Sonic 3 is Jim Carrey’s last Sonic film. Because, I do agree that future Sonic movies can move on without him. As we all know, Jim Carrey isn’t really a sequel guy. But The Sonic Movie sequels are an exception. Since Jim just passionately loves playing Robotnik as his character evolves a lot. And since, Sonic Movie 3 is gonna go deep into the Robotnik’s family lore. (Such as Gerald and Maria, because of Shadow.) So, I think Sonic 3 should be the best open door to give Jim Carrey’s Robotnik closure in his trilogy arc. I would be surprised, if he returns for a 4th Sonic film. But I doubt it! I say future Sonic films should tackle on other villians like Metal Sonic, Chaos, Mephilles, and many more from the Sonic franchise.

[@southerncoastproductions7587]

ur so dumb.

[@TheGamerninja15]

I like to imagine a Sonic Generations movie being the ultimate celebration of the Sonic Movie universe's 10th anniversary. Us going back into certain events from the first 4 or 5 movies. And Sonic interacting with his younger self akined to Modern and Classic Sonic's interactions would be so interesting. I can imagine the plot of the film taking some elements from Sonic 06 as well like replacing the Time Eater with Mephiles for example.

[@jackattack6430]

There’s one way Sonic 3 itself can be an Avengers level threat, the first 2 movies it was just back to back Eggman ( the 2nd time around clearly higher staking than the first ) but Biolizard if he is in this movie will bump the stakes up by ALOT

[@CaptainF123]

And Shadow.

[@jackattack6430]

@@CaptainF123 Yes, and Shadow too. Arguably on his own

[@lgill6710]

If the Pre-Reboot Archie Universe is restored, we will truly be living in the good future 🤷‍♂️

[@MrRobot2027-wd9iw]

Not going to happen. You would need to make copyright free versions of all of Archie's characters.

[@MrRobot2027-wd9iw]

These are my crazy ideas for an Archie continuation. The Final Storyline leads to the Subspace Emissary. Ian Droid = Abraham Robotnik (baby killer) = Tabuu

[@MrRobot2027-wd9iw]

The nanites from A.D.A.M control the R.O.B.s, Ian Droid is not really Ian Brandon Anderson Droid, but a version of Robotnik who became a geneticist as opposed to a roboticist who later turns into Tabuu after obtaining hidden ancient powers related to the Ixis Masterworks. He is not truly alive and has no soul. He's a vessel for The End. Ivan and Ivo are brothers and Robo-Robotnik is an imposter shaping his body off a dead corpse. The First Robotnik and the one to start the Robotnik lineage before Earth was Earth, Abraham Robotnik the baby killer. Mobius is the 4th World after the 3 Worlds have ended. The Dark Legion is actually a recruitment scheme for the Ancient Ministers who run the Nocturnus Illuminati and they team up with Imperitor Ix and ditch the Dark Egg Legion. There are Four Great Cilivations tied to the orgins of the Chaos Emeralds, the Illuminati, and the Demiurge. BEM are the remains of the Annunaki lizard race who left behind Zetas who hid colonies of Archon like Xorda to evolve mankind and are versions of humans who have pitch black dark eyes. Xorda aliens have DNA sequences that spell YHWH. Robotnik is the Demiurge. Zone Cops serve the Demiurge. The Sky Empire (Sonic Chrono Adventure) controls Mobius behind the scenes. Battle Kakku are exiled dwellers of the Sky Empire along with the rest of the "lambs". There was a spaceship seen in Ben Hurst drafts for SATAM Season 3. Julian's lineage inherited the Earth "Planet of the Apes" while another lineage set up the events to create an artificial Earth known as the Fleetway timeline. Ivan wanted to be a God and was jealous of Ivo so as Ian he helps plant seeds for Julian, but Julian betrays him. Everyone from Archie is the Reincarnation of Sonic X cast. Cosmo the Seedrian after her death is a goddess responsible for reincarnation. The Day of Fury happened on August 12th 2036, the Heat Death of the Universe. Solaris was involved and the 2000s storyline revolves around the aftermath of Sonic 06 and Sonic X. The Empire of Solanna and GUN were corrupt and lead to the overexploitation and destruction of Earth. SCP Foundation funds the Zone Cops, SCP Foundation hates Blaze, SCP Foundation survived the Xorda attack. SCP Foundation serves the Demiurge. Dark Legion serves the Logos. Aurora serves the Mythos and the Demiurge. Ivan / Ian is a clone of Chris Chan who is the anti-Christ who become a bad Pokemon egg and traveled his soul back to 06/06/06 to be reborn and was tied to the Demiurge. The Metarex are back and they want the Planet Egg to understand the meaning of Memes, the DNA of the soul.

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

​@@MrRobot2027-wd9iw 🤦‍♂️ Sega owns all of the characters. Ken Penders is a nut.

[@Garrulous64]

I'd be fine with this. I think it would be better to leave behind the more realistic locations only to be revisited or referenced occasionally. We've had his origin story, now he's gotta do his own thing. It worries me a bit though. Just because Mario did well doesn't mean Sonic will. Doesn't mean they shouldn't try though.

[@ChannelPup]

It leaves them the option of returning to it full time if fully animated doesn't work out.

[@sethmoses6279]

​@@ChannelPup BTW, Wachowski is pronounced Wha-Cow-Ski.

[@dragonborn7955]

​@@ChannelPupTake that robot idea... And throw it into the void. Because SEGA will NEVER allow that. I know this was a pitch of your creation. But Eggman becoming a robot ain't happening, ever.

[@hydrocityshark]

@@dragonborn7955 this means the movies might end after 3.

[@jamesstreet2188]

I actually think the ideal would be the Sonic movies after 3 be animated, taking place on 'mobius'/sonic's home world , while the shadow spin-off movies/tv series, being dark and grittier, would stay live action/cgi on earth, with Shadow, Rouge, and Omega working for G.U.N.

[@comicfan1324]

Honestly, ever since there was concerns that Jim Carrey would never return to the role, I’ve said that perhaps a good direction to take would be to have agent stone become the lead villain of the movie series and have him adopt the name “Eggman” as his super villain title in honor of his fallen mentor/crush. Obviously, I would love it if Jim Carrey could continue playing the role, but that is an unrealistic expectation. Unless the series last only a couple more years inevitably they’re going to have to consider the possibility that Jim might want to retire (which he is completely entitled to.)

[@Axxidous]

Sonic, Sonic 2, Knuckles Series, Sonic 3, Shadow series, Shadow Movie, Knuckles season 2, Sonic Heroes, Shadow season 2. Sonic 06/Colors. Wrap things up in the sense that they can’t develop the characters anymore, the world already knows about all the Sonic Heroes and aliens and such. So it’s implied they just continue adventuring and fighting whatever whimsy threat shows its face. Going forward, announce a Paramount animated Sonic movie in the vein of Sonic Unleashed with original plots and more wacky ideas and locations. Doesn’t need to be tied to the live action movies. But Sonic in movies will be well known enough for it to require less character introduction and world building.

[@BugsyFoga]

Can’t wait for the chaotics film

[@MCIsSquared]

We NEED Paramount to see this video. I know they will definitely introduce characters everyone is familiar with like Amy or Rouge, but Silver and Metal Sonic are seriously some of my favorites. With the success of the Mario movie, I'm sure they would want to make the Sonic movies more of a Sonic world. Earth is fine but imagine if we get to see more into the actual island Sonic lived in? Or maybe even Studiopolis Zone! (My favorite) PARAMOUNT LISTEN TO YOUR FANS, YOU'RE ALREADY SO GOOD AT DOING IT!

[@Danel-34079]

video game movies sucks Superhero Marvel/Dc book are better!!! mario sonic movies sucks marvel and dc is better

[@cabecadeprego8772]

Sonic has a lot of potencial to have more movies, is not like Eggman is the only villiain in the franchise i think that most people fear that cause is so easy to see Paramount executives deciding to pull the plug on the Sonic movies if (more like when) Jim Carrey retires completely

[@gameral4235]

Ultimately these movies make money so I'm sure they will want to continue making these.

[@cabecadeprego8772]

@@gameral4235 true, heard that on the list of future Paramount productions there´s a new movie so i guess its possible they´re considering that possibility

[@HellboyBr11]

man, Jim Carrey makes an amazing Eggman, but Sonic and other characters are great too

[@HellboyBr11]

a good way would be to replace the villain with a robot

[@gameral4235]

@@HellboyBr11 so... what they did with archie robotnik.

[@Jadinite-2006]

I imagine Sonic 4 would be about Time Travel and Sonic 5 dealing with Ancient Water Being, Chaos.

[@peterrealar2.067]

Dude, the fact he has THOSE RINGS, means that even a collision with MARIO is possible. If Sony(Paramount is being bought) Warner Bros, and Universal work together then SMASH BROS. is ABSOLUTELY on the table.

[@natoriousthehopeful2786]

Happy Birthday and thanks for the spectacular video, Pup: Praying this next year of life is your BEST one yet🤩🎉🙏

[@benraven9087]

I just don't see any Eggman working in this iteration that isn't Jim Carrey. He has already become so iconic and made such an impression on these characters that bringing in someone else would feel kinda cheap. Yeah, it's *technically* not the same Eggman, but he serves the same narrative function and just lacks Jim's quirky energy, so he basically is a recast. And for the same reasons Pup stated, a Sonic timeline can't survive for long without the fat man causing trouble, so a reboot is the only way I see Sonic films going forward.

[@TonyHughes_]

Your intro is a vibe🔥 Supa Dope

[@TsuriaDragon]

They need to first slow down this is always the biggest problem for moving forward they try to take on too many projects and end up ruining everything. They need to really pay attention to the source material, but also avoid some of the mistakes that’s also been made by their forte as well. Having the characters have their own spin off series for tv shows is a good step for more development. Tho I think having the humans involved isn’t necessary plus the villains need to threatening the comics for Sonic is an huge inspiration. {Edit haha we had the same idea AI Eggman with metal sonic}

[@gamerowl9934]

9:51 As soon as I heard "Silver the Hedgehog!" and Dreams of an Absolution, I got mad goosebumps. 😅 Man, a movie Silver would be amazing!

[@Danel-34079]

video game movies sucks Superhero Marvel/Dc book are better!!! mario sonic movies sucks marvel and dc is better

[@Squidwards_Ultimate_Demise]

I think it would be better to let Metal fill the gap left by eggman for a trilogy rather than instantly turning around creating a new "eggman" immediately after the third film. It would feel like less of a cop out and also make more sense for Metal Sonic to only resort to bringing his creator back after losing very thoroughly.

[@CaptainAnimations]

This video is amazing!

[@ArtHollow]

You said it would be Pup Pitches video, and you certainly delivered! It feels odd for you to have provided such a gift to us when it is YOUR birthday. Your ideas, as usual, are pretty great. I felt that introducing Silver so early would be a careless move, but using him to establish the ultimate "fail state" of the incoming adventures (Eggman conquers the universe if Sonic and Pals fail) is a really cool idea I would not have thought of. Especially because this makes the fact that Eggman was successful in being revived and launching the Death Egg all the more important. We know where things go thanks to Silver, and we have seen Eggman take the first step thanks to Sonic 4. The stakes are raised for the next adventures. Bravo. I also must gush: The fact that you used the Archie Robo-Robotnik arc to explain the issues that a Sonic without Robotnik could face and simultaneously to subtly introduce us to the idea of a robo-replacement Robotnik that you would later use as a multi-faceted solution and plot point in your pitch was an astounding example of great script-writing. I had to give praise for that, it impressed me so much. You put so much thought into so many parts of this idea, and you got it all across really succinctly. Your editing has been good for some time, but your script-work is very under-appreciated. That is enough of me splurging my dumb thoughts at you for one comment, I think. Amazing work on this video, I hope it does well because I definitely want more of them. [Edit: Fixed typos]

[@ChannelPup]

Thank you so much, ArtHollow, it means a lot!

[@ArtHollow]

@@ChannelPup You are most welcome, Pup. I am happy to bring a little joy. Thank you for the great work you are putting out.

[@daryltor7608]

Happy birthday pup

[@shayjaymultiversal]

This honestly sounds like an interesting and incredible idea. I can honestly see this being the future of this series.

[@MarcinSzkodziski-xe2qp]

I huge fan mr puppu 1:49

[@mercontheeagle]

What if, hear me out, Robotnik dies but before he died he ‘implanted’ his consciousness into something or someone else. If it’s a robot then I guess it would be fine but I believe it would be better if somehow Robotnik ‘brainwashes’ someone else and they physiologically become egg man in some type of way, then because of the brainwash and personality change, they change their appearance to be more like how eggman normally looks. Moustache, belly, suit and all. Could be a good way of recasting the actor and making it the same character within the story, but this could just be wishful thinking 😅😎🔥

[@thebonners8653]

The helium arc is going crazy

[@ice_popzz6623]

Damn this is a really good idea

[@sammcbride4305]

Absolutely love this

[@Danel-34079]

video game movies sucks Superhero Marvel/Dc book are better!!! mario sonic movies sucks marvel and dc is better

[@Axxidous]

Something we already knew they were planning to do for a few years but at least now are actually thinking about it.

[@Kookie_13_]

This is such a good idea I hope something along the lines of this is what actually happens

[@Sonicjohnathon]

I like the idea you have for Sonic Movie 4. I think if they have Silver in the 4th movie I would love to see Blaze and see how they do her storyline

[@socks456]

Genuinely, might be the best idea I have heard for the potential Sonic 4 Wow, like this was not only really creative, but like it seems fun and leaves the door open for more afterwards not just a crammed movie. Granted I believe whatever they do for this 4th movie, I believe it should be spiderverse style, atleast split between 2 movies but one continuous story

[@partyjams]

a creative solution for Eggman but most of this feels more like fanfare than a realistic option. For one thing, while I don't think the Mario movie is to be "ignored" per say, it's not like the Sonic Cinematic Universe will take this drastic of a shift for it. I highly doubt these movie studios thought that the reason the Mario movie did so well is because of the fully animated approach. If that were the case we would be seeing way more fully animated movies & less of these live action adaptations. Also the hypothetical movie proposed has almost too many characters at once. But I understand this is under the presumption movie three will be bringing in several characters and not just Shadow. However I think they will be drip feed into the universe for content. Having said all of that, an animated Eggman is actually a neat idea. That could work while keeping Sonic & Eggman on Earth. I know Sonic fans (well some of them) don't care for the human characters but they are a part of this world. The TV show seems to be expanding on this too. While Sonic will get more independent and do more exploring on his own with his friends, Earth will certainly be center stage. Partly cause I'm sure it's cheaper too

[@the_sync_lorde_5330]

This is good! Does Paramount hire pups 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@thomascircle245]

I admit that I dropped out of the Marvel Cinematic Universe a while back, but before I did that, it gave me an adaptation of the Civil War arc that miraculously wasn't garbage, didn't turn Iron Man into a fascist and didn't end with Spider-Man making a deal with a devil. And as I reflect on this, I remember that the Sonic movies (well, at least the second) also gave me better versions of characters that the source material had derailed. So I say, better to let the series be oversaturated by writers who will make some good things in the process, than be left solely in the hands of people who don't stand for good characterization.

[@Danel-34079]

video game movies sucks Superhero Marvel/Dc book are better!!! mario sonic movies sucks marvel and dc is better

[@Danel-34079]

sega sucks!! Marvel/Dc comics is better cry about it

[@acordybs]

GREAT IDEA

[@Danel-34079]

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[@bowserbreaker2515]

I think making a bunch of spin-offs is a disaster and will just turn these already bad movies into another MCU. All I want after movie 3 is a 4th movie (maybe it can be a two-parter) with Silver and Blaze. And you can't make this series go on for a while without Eggman. They should just recast him. You have to have Eggman.

[@DmanDmythDlegend]

5:00 I’m actually a Naugus fan who wants him to come back and be canon as much as I want the Freedom Fighters cast to come back. That character works as a great foil to Eggman and a good reoccurring bad guy for Sonic. Honestly he’s in my top 5 villains for this franchise. Of course he’s not Eggman, he’ll always be number one, but I’d love to see this horrid rat faced bastard make a comeback.

[@briansmith1623]

A Team Chaotix movie could work If this is jim carrys last time as dr robotnick they could use a villain from the idw comics dr starline

[@damiendelossantos2726]

Happy birthday 🎉

[@andersonsansonowski5644]

I think the idea of animation I think there should be SONIC MOVIE/SHOWS that are just CGI , but when I am talking about this I mean like the LION KING REMAKE MOVIE, with the same models and ''realistsic'' CGI graphics

[@SomeOneDifferentandknuckles]

I personally think stone, should be the eggman, he could also just look more like game eggman

[@Super.sonicpower]

No matter much i would love this i dont think slivers ever coming

[@ryananthony2869]

If they do decide to keep making these movies live action,can the next one please be an adaptation of Unleashed? The game being a globe-trotting adventure,filled with humans,and having a cinematic feel would be a perfect fit for these movies.

[@Danel-34079]

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[@CulturePhilter]

I like it.

[@Danel-34079]

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[@boyzilla78productions]

I feel like the universe should also try to keep it simple with it's general premise. As fun as "sonic 4, episode 1" sounds, I feel like that would already start to make the universe feel over saturated. Instead of taking notes from universes like marvel or Star wars, I feel like the sonic universe should take notes from universes like the monsterverse. Keep it simple while also making sure the films have (somewhat) self contained stories with an over arching narrative. Kind of what the MCU did back in it's prime. I also want to mention that villains like perfect chaos or metal sonic alone could serve as great replacements for robotic if we really have to cut him out completely. I am all for a completely animated robotnic being in this franchise, I just feel like it should also come more naturally to ease audiences into this idea of a robotic eggman.

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[@jesuschavez8417]

Imagine they introduce the metarex 🥶

[@CartoonPostyt]

We're gonna hold you to that milk thing.

[@ImaDogGuy]

Imagine Sonic Heroes into a movie? Or Sonic CD? AWESOME…

[@szszabolcs9582]

i love the thumbnail....especially how Sonic looks.....that's how he should look in the third film......darker quills are enough but what about making him...a little taller...still make him Movie Sonic at the core so no major changes like connected eyes or tan arms ....but make him coolel and less cute, maybe give him the adventure smile too......IT WOULD HYPE US TO DEATH MAKE IT HAPPEN Paramunt....i know you wont, but please....do it

[@Danel-34079]

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[@joeker5208]

I don’t really care about these movies. But I think a pretty good replacement for Carrey would be Bryan Cranston. The guy’s not new to hamming it up a comedic role. And he can rock both the bald look and a stache

[@allenmacias273]

Honestly I love the idea of agent stone picking up the eggman mantle and becoming the new robotnick, giving us a different take on the character

[@Danel-34079]

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[@andersonsansonowski5644]

6:35 after the KNUCKLES SHOW I say DON"T REBOOT THE UNIVERSE note: Yes, the knuckles show made me NOT want a reboot and I am being serious, (don't kill me)

[@greensoda123]

only way people would be hyped for the Sonic multiverse would be if Zonic the Zonecop was cannon. Because than that just connects every Sonic spin off ever. Like Prime would have been hype if it was different Robotniks we new but it wasn't

[@ChibiSteak]

15:00 fin.

[@toyingmadness9731]

I wish agent stone was in this as the robotnik replacement

[@Danel-34079]

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[@truemetalsonic]

Ive imagined for awhile that they create a human/animation hybrid model of Sage and she instructs Stone on how to run things until they can get a new Robotnik

[@thesonicpotato2365]

dude, this idea is SICK. i want this to happen so baaaad. I do think the interstellar amuzement park and silver could be in a different movie though. Blaze should also be introduced with Silver.

[@Danel-34079]

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[@atavious2491]

Having a robot Eggman would be like having the utrom Shredder Ch'rell in TMNT 2003. It just doesn't feel right to have a non-human version of the main villain replacing the previous incarnation. The writing can have him be killed off permanently and return again with no explanation and you can just go back and forth on this with no real sense of direction. As for the multiverse idea? They can either just repeat like what they did in the flash by showing pre-existing iterations of other Sonic media (i.e. portals to the Archie/DiC universe, Sonic X universe, video games, ova universe, boom, etc.) It can be established here that the video games all along have always been separate in their own universe and firmly establishing that modern and classic Sonic are indeed their own separate entities, clearing up for the last time that two different Sonics and the two worlds theory have always been a thing in the video games and almost every game in the mainline series has been set in its own universe. That's the only way how I can see this happening for any other problems people may still have with the overall lore. But obviously this doesn't mean it's going to be a crossover event, just cameo visual eye candy for a brief moment or scene. I haven't seen the third season of Sonic Prime yet, but so far I don't think it's that bad. It's just like Sonic Boom honestly. A generic Sonic TV show with a plot that tries to be like a comic book multiverse story where the alternate worlds are just original made-up varients of the main world from where the main heroes originate from. You know, alternate/parellel world stories or tropes before multiverse movies became a thing. Otherwise, since the illumination Mario movies are also going to have a shared universe, this can still be the opportunity for the fully animated Sonic and Mario worlds to cross paths and if other video game movies get made down the road (animated ones at least), we can finally have a Mario vs Sonic movie followed by the Super Smash Bros movie. Although I feel like you can still put Angrry Birds, Mortal Kombat, Detective Pikachu, Legend of Zelda and Minecraft in there, regardless if they originated as live-action films. We as the audience will just have to flow with it that they're now in animated form and move on. Like what Channel Pup said, you can have it both ways. That's Star Wars right now with having one timeline being depicted in both animated and live-action form. It's not rocket science.

[@Danel-34079]

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[@Gilbot9000]

I'm good for them cribbing the Robo-Robotnik concept but as charismatic and well-received as Agent Stone is, I'd almost rather he take up the Robotnik name and be the last vestige of real life human in the Sonic films and shows going forward. I love the pitch tho, Pup! Well done as always and happy belated birthday!

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[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

'Sonic The Hedgehog' fans, please read, sign, & spread the word about these 2 Change petitions: 'Fan tips for future entries in the live action 'Sonic The Hedgehog' film series and more'. 'Fan tips regarding the main 'Sonic The Hedgehog' canon and future mainline home console 'Sonic The Hedgehog' video games'.

[@sonicthemusicianwarrior418]

That would be so coolol im dying that would be AMAZING I want that to happen so bad but maybe with some changes

[@Danel-34079]

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[@Dgunz]

Sonic continuity can become incredibly convoluted and complicated for general audiences to understand and grasp. Without Jim Carrey, the main driving point for the movies, audiences will lose interest fast.

[@edwind8071]

i think the sonic movies have already established themselves. jim carrey was essential for those first 2 movies, but audiences are definitely already invested at this point. especially with the reveal of keanu and shadow. the franchise is at a good place to hold its own

[@HellboyBr11]

I disagree.

[@javonscruggs8233]

You could also adapt the shadow the hedgehog game story for a shadow story with black doom and the black arms as the primary villian

[@Magaleg]

Im just waiting for the big the cat spin off series

[@thefluffynerd95]

Honestly, I really like the ideas, but doing Robo Robotnik might be a bit of a problem since Ken Penders, you he were totally say "I did it first", since I think you we try to sue he claimed Eggman was his design and character or something like that

[@ChannelPup]

He'd stand no chance against Paramount's lawyers, it'd be a non-issue so long as he isn't ACTUALLY Robo Robotnik.

[@thefluffynerd95]

@ChannelPup Very true. I got it. If they did that, they could use the name of Metal Robotnik.

[@C_SonicDude]

Sonic 4: episode 1 had me giggling lol 💀

[@riachu81]

And the things don’t even have to be exactly like the games as much as we think or want, metal sonic could totally be power scaled up and be a way bigger threat and go neo metal at the end of a movie, any villain can be scaled up to be stronger than the last or than their game counterpart, chaos could happen after these movies he doesn’t have to be before shadow, he could be a huge final universe battle

[@riachu81]

Infact in my opinion chaos SHOULD happen after shadow and after everything because he is and can be such a huge final threat, he’s tied into the chaos emerald and everything so perfectly just like thanos

[@nhyibonney2024]

An animated egg man would be very weird

[@Danel-34079]

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[@barneyjuniorYT]

Jackrobotnik would make a GREAT Sonic 4 eggman

[@hayatojp1249]

what they could do is to turn Robotnic into a CGI character during the third movie so they dont need Jim to play as him

[@tomcurl8034]

Besides the upcoming introduction of shadow, the hedgehog in the third movie I think the most important character for the franchised for introduced to the movies would be Amy Rose

[@MattRow-cn4cj]

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[@DebugVoid]

Just to note: there are a limited amount of sonic media they are allowed to use. Sorry to sound like a nerd😅

[@ChannelPup]

You're absolutely right, however, I think what's off-limits is stuff like Archie, SatAM, Boom, Hyper Sonic, etc.

[@Ruzook]

fire sonic 4 storyline

[@breksen]

While i do get why you went that direction with Sonic 4, i think realistically they would go in a completely different direction. Having two movies in a row where we introduce new hedgehogs (and in this case, 2) is diluting the idea of the franchise too much. Introduce non hedgehog characters for a bit before returning to that. Personally, id love to see some more obscure choices like Sticks the Badger. Also, like it or not, it seems like the humans are here to stay with how it seems Knuckles is SO human focused. Theyve committed to the idea that Sonic exists in our world, and it almost feels too late to back out of that idea now. This kind of reads like what a sonic fan wants, but theres no chance thats what Paramount is thinking

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[@Beastmd]

Oi pup! 200 more!

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[@kriscoonnz]

You don't think they could get Jim back to voice him, I'm sure he'd be up for recording from home for a million or something

[@BritBox777]

Y'know that legally, they can't do anything that might get them accused of listening to your ideas, right? Like Ian Flynn always says, if you've got great ideas, the best thing you can do is NOT tell them.

[@whydowelivejusttosuffer7704]

That is the most absurd bulshit I've ever heard in my life you cannot copyright random ideas thrown out on the internet.

[@BritBox777]

@@whydowelivejusttosuffer7704 Nobody said anything about copyright. You made that part up yourself. Go listen to Ian Flynn's podcast and he'll give you a nice long rant about the problem.

[@whydowelivejusttosuffer7704]

@@BritBox777 I feel like Flynn is letting his pride hold him back if a good idea from somebodyelse isn't his own.

[@ChannelPup]

To be fair Britbox777 is more or less right that it places them in an awkward legal position, however, there's nothing to say that they couldn't come up with something WAY BETTER that is adjacent to this idea. I think a loophole though is that I haven't sent this directly to anyone involved in the films. However I'm not committed to holding onto my ideas for a chance to go legit in the industry. I'm just here to chat.

[@BritBox777]

@@ChannelPup Yeah that's a fair attitude to have