How to line up Grain in a threaded, wood turned Lidded Box Sam Angelo

Sam demonstrates in detail how to line up the grain from the base to the lid in a thread chasing project. If you are serious about Chasing Threads in wood with hand tools.....This is an important video.
Here is a link to the "sister" video where I turn completely a similar cherry box. Turning a Stabilized Cherry box: • Turning a Stabilized l...
To see more of my work visit: www.samangelo.com or www.wyomingwoodturner.com

[@nukejets]

Sam, like the amount of detail you presented. Made the instruction very clear. Thanks.

[@rgoodleaf]

Good job Sam and very well explained. Cheers, Rich

[@steveland810]

Excellent tutorial and a superb box.Thank you for sharing .

[@ThePaulbusby]

Great video Sam. I still have my thread chasers sat on the shelf. Need to give these a try. It will never be right first time. I guess just take a piece of wood and keep chasing threads to get the idea behind it. Then try and make 2 parts fit together and then try and line up the grain. Very nice piece of cherry. The grain really popped. Fast becoming one of my favourites woods to turn.

[@SuperBowser87]

He was a true master of the craft. Thanks for letting us know. Nice project. Very impressive!

[@russellsharp5490]

thank you Sam, I just acquired my first thread chasing set and this was extremely helpful. Thank you. Sorry to hear the news about Binh Pho. I got to see him twice at the Northeastern Woodworkers Association meeting in Saratoga. A true craftsman and a great spirit.

[@jsburklow]

another great video, thanks Sam.

[@mummatoni9211]

Yes this is a great topic for me. Thanks so much

[@alanmullock381]

Nice and clear Sam,thanks!😆😆😆😆

[@broadsideguy967]

Really helpful sir . Thank you

[@georgeoliver9125]

Nice job as always. Will I see you in Billings on the 30th and 1st?

[@dennisbeamish9058]

Excellant tutorial Sam!! Thanks very much for posting this video. Regards Dennis Beamish Cambridge Ontario Canada

[@charlesreicks648]

Your surfaces where not trued up after cutting them back, I noticed a difference in the gap when the lid was on. How is that done?

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

This can happen when the threads are still a bit too tight. If I continue to chase the thread it loosens up enough for the lid and base to make contact. Sam

[@mummatoni9211]

Sam matey how did you get your female thread cutter so narrow. Have you ground it down some?

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

That has been sharpened down to that point. These are my first chasers. They are good to have for a really narrow recess. I have ground the back down so I can get into a 1/4" opening. Sam

[@billy19461]

I'll be dean.

[@m.stratton4408]

Excellent video Sam for us novice thread chasers thanks for showing I really enjoyed it kind regards.

[@starchy97]

Thanks for the tutorial Sam. A problem and solution that you have explained very well. David

[@Tim_Pollock]

Very cool Sam, gotta get me a set of chasers! And I'm first. :- )

[@hraun2berg]

Thank you Sam great demonstration. Júlíus

[@muziqjazz]

Nice demo Sam. Thanks. Marc

[@MikePeaceWoodturning]

Nice close up shots. How much larger then the female opening do you make the male tenon? I know you usually use the Alan Batty technique but looks like that is not the approach you took on this box. Great explanation on a trciky procedure. I guess this is why I like acorn boxes with contrasting wood. 😉

[@tomasarguinzoni9022]

Thank you for sharing a great job

[@MikeWaldt]

A superb demonstration Sam, very clear and concise, well filmed as well. Great job mate. Take care Mike

[@DavidWhite]

That was awesome Sam Thanks

[@donbeveridge997]

Thanks Sam.

[@davidmorgan7522]

Thanks Sam! Great video. You've answered many questions I've had in a short video. Take care, Dave

[@waterfordrs22]

What an amazing process. I'd love to see an experienced wood turner, but one who has never chased threads before try this for the first time. Just see what the learning curve looks like. I never would have guessed that was cherry. - Great video, I'll check out the others related to this topic. Take care Sam.

[@scottgaber2267]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have three of these boxes in my shop to fix and hopefully they will come out as nice as yours.

[@billy19461]

Tried twice and gave up. Meant I'll be dean. Didn't realize the solution was that simple.

[@leksey7870]

Interesting box with thread!

[@ducaschoenberg7156]

You can make it yourself, just loook and learn from woodprix.

[@billy19461]

I'll be dern. Computer keeps on correcting my spelling.

[@KenCustis]

Thanks Sam, great explanation!

[@xyzzy54321]

Excellent, Sam. You really have to do a more detailed item on how to stabilize cherry. I love cherry, but can't put threads in it under any circumstances. I have some actual yew I could use for an insert; I have some wenge which I've seen The Captain thread. But, man, I'd love to be able to thread cherry. Please do a detailed video on stabilization. Glad you are back. Great Stuff. dan

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

I have stabilizing vids in the works. Sam

[@donnabyers]

Sam you are go good. I would love to come out & take some threading lessons from you. You're the best. Thanks

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Thanks, I'll be here for lessons....Sam

[@Lee-qp6gf]

Sam, when you are cutting and doing the repetition cutting of the threads does you tool find its way in or are you able to enter the cutter into the threads each time? Lee

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Once a groove is established, the tool follows the groove. And as you say the tool finds its way. Sam

[@dannyboy9784]

Well done Sam, I love the way you explain things....so simple to follow...I'm kind of new to turning and was wondering how good is pine for turning...got myself some logs from a recent cut down tree and trying to make some bowls and maybe boxes....I don't know how good the thread chasing will be with pine....but I want to practice at least. I'm currently practicing to dry the green bows I turned, some I turned thin some thick drying them in the microwave slowly... a bit every couple of days and leaving them in a box with shavings in the meantime.

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Danny, Pine would not be good for thread chasing. Hard maple is a fairly good wood for chasing threads. It is hard enough and sometimes, depending on the piece of maple, it can produce an excellent threads. Here is a link to my website and a wood list for chasing threads: www.wyomingwoodturner.com/pdfs/Mywoodlist.pdf Sam

[@dannyboy9784]

@@WYOMINGWOODTURNER Thanks Sam for the update...Cheers

[@gilgrace1915]

Wouldn't lining up the sharpie marks or the grain, as first shown, and noting the width of the gap give you the amount of wood to remove? Of course you want to sneak up on the last little bit as shown, but it might be a little quicker. How about using a sanding block on the face of the lid to zero in on the alignment. It seems you could accurately take off a few thousandths at a time that way. I've never done any wood threading, just going by what I've seen here.

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Gil Matching up the marks and looking at the gap is totally BRILLIANT. I will try that. I usually just adjust the shoulder on the base cause it is in my lathe already. But the sandpaper idea is another good one. I will use that as well and pass it on in another video. Thanks Sam

[@gilgrace1915]

I've been thinking about my comment and two possible problems became clear to me. First I wouldn't rely on the gap as the EXACT amount to trim...too much room for error. Another thing to consider is the slight slack in the wooden threads. As you torque the lid a bit the slack will be eliminated and could result in an error. I'd use the sanding method on the lid to zero in on the final fit. The second possible problem could be in re-chucking the lid. There is a chance of creating a bit of run-out. Perhaps the use of two chucks is the answer. Leaving the lid in the original chuck and the same for the box in it's original chuck, until the last moment. OK, I'm finished now...my head is starting to hurt. ;-D

[@sethwarner2540]

would sand paper work better at fine tuning?

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

I am not sure. I have never really tried it. I prefer using a tool. I think I have more control. Sam

[@johndavid5058]

1 divided by pitch equals distance.

[@johndavid5058]

I like the way it's explained also. Great job sam

[@donbeveridge997]

Sam, did you get a new camera or software? This is has a professional quality to the picture.

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Don Beveridge Nope. Same old Polaroid haha. No same camera thanks

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Don Beveridge Nope. Same old Polaroid haha. No same camera thanks

[@chartle1]

Wonder if it would help sneaking up to getting the lid lined up if you marked it like a machinist would but instead of blue dicom (?) use pencil. Even using certain diameter mechanical pencil leads like .5, .7 or 1 mm to give a better gauge of how far to go.

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

That is an interesting idea. To me it comes down to a lot of guesswork. Because it is so difficult to measure and mark accurately. Sam

[@chartle1]

WYOMINGWOODTURNER the line isn't really for measurement but more like reference.

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

Cliff, I like that. It describes the process more accurately. Sam

[@billy19461]

I'll be fern.

[@WYOMINGWOODTURNER]

I'll be fern? Just curious Sam