How to Make a Carbon Fiber Panel- Wet Lay Technique

[@iceyinferno]

Great video! Just a tip I've seen elsewhere for those cheap bristle brushes, if you super glue the bristles by the metal part you won't have any strands fall out anymore. Hope it helps!

[@simonac688.]

Thank you for the demonstration its clear and easy...no crazy music is also appreciated 😅

[@The-truth-is-valuable.]

That, I think, is very much underrated. By the time the 'tutorial/ episode' is over, you so irritated by the (frequent) irritating music, that you do not want to watch it any more,or anything else on that channel.

[@craigsmith3655]

Good Job AJ. Straight forward, no BS, no over the top technical tems, calm and well presented. Couldn't have done any better myself.

[@jorgemanalang6373]

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[@kennysilvers-z4x]

Thanks for explaining the "release". I knew there was a method to that part of the process no one else is explaining.

[@TheDarvec1]

I need a low seat back for my wheelchair...I am so going to have a go at this. The bought ones are £600! Awesome.

[@martinwaples7330]

Bro, YOU ROCK, THANK YOU FOR BEING A FELLOW FABRICATOR. I FABRICATE MOTORCYCLE RACE FAIRING KITS. I CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TONYOUR SITE AND GET SOME TIPS AND IDEAS.

[@10MMsocketfinder]

You just earned a new subscriber for this. 👍🏽

[@naturalmystics-kd9vt]

You are the best person I see on KZbin other people never show any thing for no one can learn

[@SmalltimR]

wow, that underside looks amazing!

[@djsonicc]

Awesome video, AJ. Going to be making a 3 layer sheet soon to cut into pieces and use to block off openings on the front bumper.

[@lineuve]

Excellent process for a carbon fiber construction

[@douglassloan6831]

Awesome! Thanks so much for doing this. I don't do enough with CF to invest in the vacuum system, so this is kind of perfect.

[@ChrisKTMKurtz]

You just earned a new subscriber for this.

[@markthomasson5077]

No Peelply? I have just started using this, great stuff, I was too mean previously, but now think it may save as you end up using less resin.

[@francoiscauvin7431]

Very good vidéo Thank you ! How is joint between the layers ,strong or so so ? Can It be better by adding pressure instead of vacuum ? Thank s

[@R3T4RDEAD]

Very helpful videos and extremely informative!

[@ajhartmanaero]

Thank you! Glad it helped.

[@eafreeland]

AJ, great vid and you made it not intimidating!!! Thanks for sharing and helping others....

[@nickdelahunty1875]

Can you do a skinning demo, small parts and trimming would be awesome

[@PocketsAutoList]

Dude, I’ve been waiting for this video for a while. Thanks for the info. I’ve been so scared to do it myself

[@ajhartmanaero]

Start small and learn from your mistakes. There will be many.

[@JohnDoe-ls1vd]

Great video. However, I have a question, can you set screws into the epoxy/fiber to install onto aluminum parts? Or will the epoxy adhere to aluminum? I'm making a box for my H-D trike that looks like a 32 Ford coupe, but instead of a trunk or rumble seat, I'm doing an aluminum roll up door, like a roll top desk, and need a way to attach the frame without seeing the fasters. Thanks

[@matthewyu3531]

It's fantastic! At the last step, you used a small roller to work out the air bubbles. Would you kindly tell me what kind roller it is? Does that roller have needles to pierce air bubbles? Your help will be greatly appreciated.

[@vibrationofmyfrequency]

Spasibo ! So cool technik 👍 I think it will be cool to put same mirror on top for over night.

[@gregheinrichs1419]

Looks to me like a kitchen roller, like you use for flattening dough would work well for this.

[@suitaec877]

I have an idea...would it be possible to make panels strong enough to be used for making the walls and roof for a camper? I'm thinking layers of carbon and insulation. Maybe 3 so that the panels can be offset to stay a bit more wind/water proof.

[@cobrajeff96]

Nice. I might have to consider this for an undertray.

[@chrischris8550]

Great video, very informative for beginners!

[@he-artLovesart]

Just a quick question , can you just lay carbon fiber over a fiberglass hood and epoxy it to it ? Is this a form of wet lay .? Does it need to be 2 layers?

[@WilliamCoffeyII]

Was curious. Are you using carbon that has a veil on the back of the carbon? It doesn’t look like it fray when you cut it. Great videos.

[@gregreynolds9708]

Have you experimented with resins that come close to a heat source? Like a exhaust cover or a high heat area of the engine bay. If so can you recommend a resin what will handle those high heat cycles. Great vids!!

[@ajhartmanaero]

Yes, sort of. I have some intake tubes on the cold side of my turbos and intercooler end tanks. All done with basic epoxy. Never tinkered with specific high heat stuff tho.

[@guillaumeloyerharmegnies1849]

Very nice video very helpfull tks for posting it. You mentionned most of the time 3k is being used. If I want to cover an interior part of my car how many layer of 3k I should do? Tks

[@miguelrobalo7818]

Good video... I want to ask you a question? you don't put any release agent on the glass?? before applying the resin?? greetings

[@intruder_ua]

thank you for video

[@arumrunner]

Great primer AJ. I would love to see you expand on this, maybe a wet layup with foam core to add rigidity. Cheers mate

[@ajhartmanaero]

Literally the exact same steps, just a core in the middle.

[@briansexton6695]

When your doing it with the foam core do you weigh the core with the carbon?

[@ajhartmanaero]

@@briansexton6695 depends on the core.

[@briansexton6695]

@@ajhartmanaero what core would you recommend for a flat floor section?

[@ajhartmanaero]

@@briansexton6695 some sort of foam. Maybe a honeycomb would do well. Balsa wood is a decent cheap option. It’s really up to you.

[@Michelle-js9hz]

So do you ever use prepreg material? I find it much easier to work with but it does have a short shelf life if you dont have a proper storage freezer

[@jeromevonloodwig5851]

Is it possible to apply pressure from weight on top of the piece while the resin sets?

[@Rhmcmlxii2]

I’m curious, would this technique work on an old claw foot tub, I wanna restore it but with a high tech flare.

[@autogeek23]

Did the oven get out air bubbles? Ive heard of people using a heat gun or torch to get out bubbles. A close up of the finished product would have been cool. Fantastic video!

[@sergeantpyro6129]

Thank you for the video. What kind of release agent did you use?

[@photoshopusercudenve]

Thanks for posting, great info

[@chrisgenovese8188]

super helpful!

[@jfratis9081]

If you arent getting a good carbon-to-epoxy ratio doing wet layup then you simply need practice. Too many people use vacuum bagging as a crutch to being crappy at laminating. A good way to practice is laminate with fiberglass cloth. You will be better able to see sections that are too heavy or too light and with time develop a feel for it. When done right it should have a very consistent canvas like look.

[@MrAbdielperez]

Hello, I am a follower of your channel, I want to learn how to make pieces, where do you buy your material, can you pass me the information, thank you

[@dejxsama4925]

Hello is it okey to make a frontsplitter with a 10mm foamcore with these technik.

[@Thomas-ul7rs]

whats the exact reasoning on why mirrrors are used?

[@comptegoogle511]

If you want to prevent the pin holes on the surface you can pre-wet the fabric before putting it on the surface.

[@nickcantrell4770]

Hey AJ, love your videos! For a DIY guy like myself, would you recommend doing wet lay with curved and more complex molds? Or at that point would pooling of the resin be too much of an issue affecting strength and weight.

[@RodrigoNascimentoMattos]

its kinda hard to achieve perfect part without vacuum if the mold is too complex.

[@ajhartmanaero]

Wet lay on curved stuff, or anything with tight corners is a pain. I’d only try it if it was your only option.

[@peterfecht5684]

Danke.!!

[@smokken10]

One grate thing is to handel the wax box and then the carbond fiber.

[@jonassouter7757]

I'm looking for information on doing a one piece front end

[@jesusblessthesecommentsamen]

Trying to work out how to add a thread to carbon to screw a lid on ?

[@ZaZa-sm4ck]

Good explanation. But when ever working with fiber fabrics you should use gloves when touching the fibercloth to prevent leaving grease from your hand on the cloth. It provides you with a better final product.

[@ajhartmanaero]

How greasy are your hands?

[@TheSocialPraxis]

Bro, you make this look so damn simple but I've had issues in the past. Granted my first attempt had crevices and bends but I was attempting to lay CF over a dash bezel. I failed lol

[@prasadnipun448]

Boss .What is the name of the liquid applied to it .Can you tell me .

[@Trappygit]

I'm loving this channel and hatching a plan to start doing my own interior panels for my car's interior. I really think a matte finish would look even better however. I've just done some reading and seen people suggest either sanding the gloss finish back or applying a matte clear coat. Do you have any go to methods for a matte or satin finish?

[@mfblowfish4671]

Thanks for the video. Any problem with using a non shed mini roller for application of the epoxy? Come from a paint background and Wooster makes a nice 5/16 nap micro fiber roller that doesn’t shed and is not too expensive. Couple bucks a piece.

[@ajhartmanaero]

I’ve seen that method used but no personal experience.

[@jonlucas1576]

i build a lot of carbon wings for drag car always wet lay never vacuum bag. i clear gel first . everyone say we build the best carbon wing. do you ever use carbon with weave stabilization ? i like it for the first layer

[@briansmith2011]

Great info. What was the final thickness of that sheet using those two fabrics? How much will vacuum bagging change the final thickness?

[@ajhartmanaero]

About .040”. Vac will be about .035”. I get into vacuum bagging in the next one and will be up in a few days.

[@JC-ve4zm]

If you wanted the top side to have a glossy finish as well. Would you just use a non porous teflon coated peel ply on top?

[@naturalmystics-kd9vt]

Aj good day i would like to make free diving fins for ocean diving please temm me what rasin to used epoxy or vinerlister rasin thank you

[@davidspin5353]

Wow way over a welders pay grade, I'll just buy parts of the internet... Good video.

[@namsoemmanson8338]

Please what can we use the carbon fiber for? Thank you

[@vermontjeff2535]

Not to sound like a Complainer, but should I have a auto body Respirator on when dealing with all of the Chemicals Involved.?

[@ajhartmanaero]

Polyester probably yeah. Epoxy, not really necessary.

[@garydeandeery]

I’m looking to try do some car wheels Will sand blast it first and may add sand grit in the base coat to help stick Going to skin it and put in a vacuum pack to help stick. Have you seen anyone do this or know of any problems

[@markthomasson5077]

I thought for a minute he had got the proportions wrong Divide by 1.25 gives a 1:5 ratio? But f course it is hardener at 1/4 of the resin, plus 4/4 resin so 5/4, or 1.25

[@tedstriker754]

I've worked with E-glass for decades, but with carbon fiber, it's not transparent when wetted out. So how do you know where the bubbles are that need stripling out to the sides?

[@ajhartmanaero]

Experience

[@jibmediaconcepts8827]

good afternoon where do you purchase your carbon materials and I like the information abut the different grades of CARBON! I AM NEW TO THIS SO I AM LEARNING WOULD like to try this method to do a sheet of carbon to make a front spliter for my car!

[@TheNewNoise7]

This video from your old shop? Thanks for posting this... been wanting to try making a few panels.

[@ajhartmanaero]

New shop from last weekend.

[@MrEpool86]

hey bro..I have problem with a little dent on surface of the sheet when it cure...why and how I can I avoid that problem?thank bro

[@BellyUpFishGarage]

I’ve got some floor panels in my airplane that are roughly 1/4” thick plywood. I’d love to replace them with some carbon fiber panels. Would a wet lay work well for a 1/4” thick panel? Would I be better off to vacuum bag the panel? Thanks

[@ajhartmanaero]

I’d use a core and vacuum bag.

[@BellyUpFishGarage]

@@ajhartmanaeroWhat would you suggest as core material?

[@xisleprez]

New sub here! Do you know what the strength of that piece is? or a comparable to another type of lay up? Thank you.

[@KDD8]

Awesome video AJ! I have a question for you, do you know how people lay two pieces of carbon fabric down lets say in the center of a hood for an example and get it perfectly straight?

[@ajhartmanaero]

I do. And funny enough, literally today am recording laying up a video where I have to put seam down the center of a hood. I will do a video specific on it in the near future.

[@KDD8]

@@ajhartmanaero Hahaha thats awesome! I am subbed can you let me know when its up please and thank you!

[@supah_sonic9979]

Now I can build me a carbon fibre coffin hehehe

[@rubenrobles7275]

Could you wet lay with a lantor soric core, and then add the vacuum pump to suck out exces resin?

[@ajhartmanaero]

There’s other cores more appropriate for that process.

[@rubenrobles7275]

@@ajhartmanaero ok. Which ones?

[@comptegoogle511]

A 1'' paint roller works best for a project like this.

[@LG-ct8tw]

AJ, it can be confusing when you speak of Tow size 4,6,10 k etc instead of aerial weight Oz/yd2 or gr/m2 to describe your CF fabrics

[@JoyGadang]

my epoxy resin write 1:1, can i mix 2:1 epoxy and harderner

[@ajhartmanaero]

why would you not mix it how the epoxy manufacturer suggests? Just follow what they say.

[@ivanvujosevic289]

Where do you recommend buying carbon sheets from? And do they sell them in 60” widths?

[@rccustomcreations]

Do you make custom size panels? I am looking for a 6" x 36" x 1/8 inch panel or 2 x 3" x 36" x 1/8 panels.

[@maderightamerica3216]

What would you recommend for an outer shell (canopy) for an electric camper)?

[@ziegfredpanen6623]

Really appreciate it bro. Question Does it need to degass the resin hardener epoxy?

[@ziegfredpanen6623]

Additional Do in need to put it in an oven to cure? Or ill set it for a 24 hours period of time?

[@ajhartmanaero]

@@ziegfredpanen6623 no to both. It can room temp cure.

[@alessandropoggi9488]

"Mirror Match" 😳

[@robertd6925]

I'm putting together a high top for my van. I want to do glass or cf over 1.5" foam core sandwich. What's my best option for as light a weight as possible but still be ultra rigid (I'm mounting ac and solar panels as well as a cargo cage)? Thanks

[@Chara-jv4bk]

so amazing the video is, can you do one for us?

[@Heli4213]

Cool

[@ClinicaAngelVida-Airline]

Only missing the thikness of the end product .

[@boosternoob]

So no release on the mirror?

[@juancarlosayalacabrera5785]

Amiguito, que tal te salio de poros??

[@comptegoogle511]

No pressure is required for the penny roller.

[@dredre9484]

Mad vid but can't you just use glass

[@samcarrs]

A close up would have been interesting

[@davidfarmerracing]

Do you ever use lantor soric in wet lay? I’ve been playing with in on small pieces with some luck. Vacuum infusion is beyond my current level of patience

[@ajhartmanaero]

I’ve seen people use it with wet lay but personally have not. I only use it with infusions.

[@jahwerx]

Very nice and informative AJ. Need to update your outro "Be sure to smash that notification bell, because subscriptions don't mean a thing" ;)

[@zackaryrangel8653]

where do you buy your carbon fiber rolls at?

[@nicolasnaumceski9209]

🥂class thinks

[@Diamondsintherubble]

Hey, on a resin infusion for a new edge hood, how much epoxy do you use for the inside skin and outside skin? I’m about to make my first attempt and I’m worried I might not buy enough, although it’s expensive 😅

[@ajhartmanaero]

Ehhh depends on how you Kay it up but 4000 grams should be plenty

[@Diamondsintherubble]

@@ajhartmanaero perfect, thank you!

[@aleshkovalev]

Thickness of this panel?

[@ajhartmanaero]

I don’t remember exactly. Maybe .030”? Video was just for a demo so didn’t use much material.

[@kizzjd9578]

Isn’t your epoxy mixed by volume and not by weight? Bit odd that you weigh it before it’s mixed.

[@ajhartmanaero]

It’s obviously mixed by weight if I use a scale.

[@kizzjd9578]

@@ajhartmanaero I’ve never seen a epoxy mixed by weight, hence why I asked.

[@ajhartmanaero]

@@kizzjd9578 the nice thing about mixing by weight is you can reuse the cups with volume marks many times.

[@markthomasson5077]

It doesn’t matter, both parts are the same density, so the ratio stays the same.

[@keshenglong]

I have a Tesla Model 3. I want to replace all the panels on it with carbon DIY panels. Where can I buy the molds for the panels?

[@garydeandeery]

Very good it’s definitely an art to make parts lol. Tell people it’s best to use epoxy resin for carbon fibre weave and not the polyester resin with cat mix. That’s a pain

[@dimaasyiah9013]

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