How to Make a Compact Electrolyzer Room - Oxgyen Not Included Tutorial

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CrypticFox

CrypticFox

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@meverly4133
@meverly4133 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is the first time I've watched one of these Oxygen Not Included build videos and thought, "hey, I actually understand what this guy is saying and I can build that thing!" I have no idea why I can't quit this game, it's too smart for me.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Haha glad it was helpful :)
@talclipse
@talclipse 5 жыл бұрын
This game is SOOO dang deep.its very overwhelming at first. Very easy to pick up,hard to master,nearly impossible to put down hehe.
@thejacksons4248
@thejacksons4248 5 жыл бұрын
I lose track of time all the time lol
@Shadow_of_Christ
@Shadow_of_Christ 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot tell you the months of sleepless nights I’ve had with this game
@shardj5151
@shardj5151 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really see how it's even easy to pick up to be honest, this game is really difficult at every stage unless you're just placing some cots and outhouses at the start
@Nutlicker683
@Nutlicker683 4 жыл бұрын
George Appleton it’s pretty easy to pick up, you put all your shit in one room, don’t mess with automation, fail badly, barely recover, start again
@JJ-rv7tt
@JJ-rv7tt 3 жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see a tutorial like this that's well prepared and to the point
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@AdityaBalasubramanian14
@AdityaBalasubramanian14 6 жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE VIDEO I NEEDED.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Happy to help :)
@LexMc0606
@LexMc0606 6 жыл бұрын
ME TOO! This would've been SO MUCH MORE HELPFUL IF I KNEW THIS BEFORE! I would've saved SOOOO MUCH ALGAE!
@mankind3496
@mankind3496 3 жыл бұрын
Do u still love this game adi bhai??
@AdityaBalasubramanian14
@AdityaBalasubramanian14 3 жыл бұрын
@@mankind3496 haven't played it in years, but still great game :)
@RGSTR
@RGSTR 6 жыл бұрын
I built an electrolyzer room similar to yours and even managed to sustain the liquid pump too. Thank you a lot for the valuable information.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
glad this was helpful :)
@Jestyr22
@Jestyr22 3 жыл бұрын
This is helping people years later, I've ran out of algae and figured it was time to get a better oxygen setup. Will be building this ASAP :D
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps :)
@jmortier88
@jmortier88 5 жыл бұрын
This might be the only tutorial ive seen that stands true till release. Ive been using your design for a long time and its insanely easy. I only made 2 changes.. To make it modular and literally stackable. I moved your bottom pump over one spot left, and put a ladder where it used to occupy and replac3d the tiles above with an airlock. I stack 3 or 4 of these next to each other, and use 2 hydrogen gen and is completely self powering with excess.. In fact i had to disable automation and let the generators just burn the excess after a while.. Such a good design. Thanks man
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad this has been useful. I started using a larger version of this where I mirror the electolyser setup in the other side of the hydrogen pump and then use 3 pumps for O2 below
@bm549
@bm549 5 жыл бұрын
Very early days in game but loving it. Good to see that the standard of content available to support it is of such a good standard. Great video, keep doing what you are doing! :)
@DrMissJess
@DrMissJess 6 жыл бұрын
your design is getting more and more compact... how long till its just one tile?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Sooooooon...if my evil plans come to fruition
@sossololpipi9633
@sossololpipi9633 6 жыл бұрын
CrypticFox Its gonna be debug mode isnt it
@moonshinemollusk7689
@moonshinemollusk7689 5 жыл бұрын
That’s impossible.... *or is it?*
@fritt_wastaken
@fritt_wastaken 5 жыл бұрын
@@moonshinemollusk7689 it is actually possible, if you don't count walls. it doesn't use electrolyzer and is infinitely scalable
@squid_cake
@squid_cake 5 жыл бұрын
7:42 if you have an issue with the tiny bit of hydrogen that makes it through the bottom pump, there's still enough energy to hook up a gas filter to filter out the hydrogen while still creating enough power to self-sustain.
@JayShroomish
@JayShroomish 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best ONI guide I've ever seen
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Hope it proves useful :)
@TheWarhawk08
@TheWarhawk08 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I am glad you did this. Every other tutorial is an hour long and full of BS lol.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it :)
@katherineprewitt8851
@katherineprewitt8851 6 жыл бұрын
UGH! I didn't even realize my algae oxidizers output was so warm! No WONDER things have happened as they have! Thanks for pointing this out. I should really pay attention.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps!
@Paultimate7
@Paultimate7 6 жыл бұрын
So after figuring out the below, I also mathed out something else. If you toss another pump and pressure sensor in the space below the upper door, you will get a net gain in watts overall. You will also start producing the max 112mg/s hydrogen, so you will be forced (after a while) to build a second hydrogen generator for the 12mg/s extra netting even higher efficiency and remaining very compact. 2 pumps for air and 2 gens properly set up use an average of 600w but produce an average of 896w. While the classic 1 oxygen pump 1 generator setup produces 505w while using 338w. This is one reason I enjoy games like this. Final note I forgot is the watts used by the water pump. Using roughly 14w for 1 oxygen pump setup and 24w for the 2 pump setup for a net gain of 153w vs. 272w So for whatever reason my setup of the exact same has at times given me an excess of power over several cycles as I expect, and has struggled to keep 1 battery filled for more than one cycle starting from a full battery. Im not sure why the hell this is. Its not that complicated. The only thing I can think of is maybe to do with temperature that isnt generally known? Some math. The pumps can pump 500mg/s. The electrolyzer outputs 888mg/s. That means over time it averages to being on, and thereby using power, to 500/888% of the time (56%). That means in general it is using 0.56x120w of energy to run (68w round up). That means it is also only producing both 500mg/s oxygen max, and 0.56x112mg/s (62mg/s round down) hydrogen. 62mg/s of hydrogen is 62% of its max of 800w. Lets assume no hydrogen is wasted. 0.62x800 is 496 watts average coming out of the generator. Taking out 68w from the elecrolyzer and 240 from the always running pump we are left with 188w. The pump supplying the hydrogen is on .62x112/500% (14%) of the time Using 240x0.14 watts (34) That brings us to around 154w left to fill extra stuff. HOW THE HELL IS THIS LOSING POWER SOMETIMES? I dont get it. I sit and watch it and things click on and off at roughly the rates above. What the hell. The answer was doors. Doors use power much more often than when they open and close it seems. and maybe 100% of the time when locked? Thats retarded, but im happy now.
@dizno3555
@dizno3555 6 жыл бұрын
ok so to fix the stupidness of not getting enough power, just doors... thx!
@nobodynowhere21
@nobodynowhere21 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you said something. This should be higher rated. I didn't hear him mention that you actually get TWO pumps worth of O2 and what to do with extra H2. Also that both O2 working together will fill ONE pipe (500gx2=1000g max capacity of a pipe) which you can then snake through a cooling system (his weezeworts bathed in hydrogen works well and it costs zero energy).
@Alloniya
@Alloniya 5 жыл бұрын
Wut
@Alloniya
@Alloniya 5 жыл бұрын
Can u make a vid
@katteisace4563
@katteisace4563 5 жыл бұрын
Nathan Ryan it’s just O and H since it’s single molecules
@vitorfray
@vitorfray 5 жыл бұрын
I used your design, but expanded a little bit. It was a game changer, it helped me so much! I placed 4 electrolysers and 8 pumps. Instead of separating the setup from the main power grid, I just fed the room with 2 power transformers. The hydrogen generators, I got them connected to a smart battery, and any excess hydrogen, I sent to a gas storage system for later use in hydrogen rocket engines. This proved too efficient. Also, I built the electrolyser room's equipments using gold amalgam, and used insulated tiles around it. I left its bottom tiles not insulated, and I built a pincha pepper nut farm underneath it. The electrolysers' high temperature is optimal for these plants' growth.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome :) Glad this helped and you were able to use it to innovate as well!
@pietsmiet
@pietsmiet 6 жыл бұрын
Einfach krass. Danke
@RedsnowHD
@RedsnowHD 6 жыл бұрын
Haha wie einfach keiner auf den Kanal reagiert hat, cool das selbst ihr euch Tipps Holt :p
@paragonpoints8420
@paragonpoints8420 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! The other tutorials I looked at had me feeling even more overwhelmed and dour, but yours I nailed first try! Just know that thanks to this video, Hoobert, Deepo, Goobles, Reepo, Cooples, and Ari all have you to thank for being able to breath.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 ай бұрын
haha glad it was helpful
@BasselSherif
@BasselSherif 4 жыл бұрын
You are the best one who solved the issue of the oxygen production. I added the filter to separate between the oxygen and the hydrogen. This allowed me to return the oxygen to my colony wherever needed, and only the hydrogen to the generator. Though, I still have the issue of over the pressure. This game needs a scientist to explain it to average users, but it is great and challenging.
@BasselSherif
@BasselSherif 4 жыл бұрын
and you explained it really well, which I was missing in all other videos. You made it simple with all its complexity. Thanks and keep up the good work.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful. I have a new build I used in my most recent colony that never hits max pressure and takes both less space and less power, but I haven't made a tutorial for it yet.
@CptBubbleMoose
@CptBubbleMoose 6 жыл бұрын
I just started to play ONI again and I always look for your tutorials for guidance!! Thank you!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Glad I can be of help!
@sicarius7399
@sicarius7399 5 жыл бұрын
really helpful design, although could you make a water management video? the electrolyzer is burning through my water since i cant find a steam vent
@InterntExplorer
@InterntExplorer 5 жыл бұрын
this is a total lifesaver. thank you! this has solved multiple problems of mine in one go. you rock!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful :)
@scandilad5152
@scandilad5152 6 жыл бұрын
I've been having problems with inefficient electrolyzers, I'm gonna use this design for sure. Good video man.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps!
@scandilad5152
@scandilad5152 6 жыл бұрын
CrypticFox Thanks, works like a charm. 👍
@jippy45
@jippy45 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My colony didn't suffocate today!
@jippy45
@jippy45 5 жыл бұрын
My first heart yes!
@diddlydoodle9278
@diddlydoodle9278 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for telling me about alge terrrariums Making warm air! no more hypothermia for my rime colony!
@52BLUE
@52BLUE 6 жыл бұрын
I spend a lot of time on my computer, rendering many 4k vids and in that time (and then some) this game has kept me company. I would never have figured this out and this set up a perfect example of why it can be so addictive. My first few games were so fucked. This is literally a game changer. And just when I was about to run out of Algae too.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you found the video helpful :)
@TheMNTK
@TheMNTK 6 жыл бұрын
8:55 Watts is already in seconds, Joules per seconds
@nobodynowhere21
@nobodynowhere21 6 жыл бұрын
Certain parts of this game must be a little daunting for anyone without some experience in chemistry and/or physics.
@noxustds
@noxustds 5 жыл бұрын
If you finished highschool you should know basic chemistry & physics
@21CenturyBreakdownX
@21CenturyBreakdownX 5 жыл бұрын
​@@noxustds not everyone knows/remembers that Watts are joules per second Source: A recent EE graduate
@RFC3514
@RFC3514 5 жыл бұрын
Most parts of this game are a little _infuriating_ for people with experience (or just a basic education, really) in chemistry and physics. :D I sort of understand making fluids immiscible, as a challenging game mechanic (although they should definitely run them at a higher resolution than the tiles - ex., 3x3 fluid tiles per construction tile - which would solve a lot of broken things), but I *definitely* don't understand the nonsensical simulation of current through wires. The wire carrying electricity to your bed lamp does not need to be able to carry all the current of everything connected to the same circuit (i.e., you don't need a "2000 watt" wire for something that uses 50 watts just because you have a couple of 900-watt ovens on different outlets). Each section of wire only needs to be able to carry the current _actually flowing through it,_ along the path between the source and the load. Also, the fact that "heavi-watt wires" need to be connected through a transformer suggests that they use higher _voltage,_ which means the wire itself wouldn't need to be any "heavier". You would only need to use heavier wires if you wanted to connect a lot of things to the end of the same branch _without_ using a transformer. There is a lot of potential for depth and fun (and learning) in a _realistic_ power distribution system. As it is, the electrical system in ONI is going to annoy people who understand power distribution and mislead people who don't, with no real gameplay benefit. I get the feeling a lot of systems in the game were meant to be quick-and-dirty placeholders, and just never got updated (instead, they added _more_ quick-and-dirty systems). The "automation" system is pretty decent and realistic, though, which is nice (if only the logic gates weren't all so huge).
@markoap91
@markoap91 5 жыл бұрын
What you just need to remember is that watts are a measure of flow of energy and when something is flowing you need the *per unit of time* part because things only flow in time. On the other hand watt hours or kilowatt hours are a measure for the amount of energy, same as joules. A watt hour is the amount of energy you get in an hour if it is flowing at a rate of one watt, or the amount of energy you get in half an hour if it's flowing at a rate of two watts, or the amount you get in one second if it's flowing at a rate of 3600 watts, you get the picture. Now what is bothering me personally is that a lot of the stuff in game is not according to physics, for example, what he made here would never work in real life. Because electrolyzer is using energy to separate water molecules into oxygen and hydrogen, and that's all good, but, burning the hydrogen to generate electricity is nothing other than the same process in reverse, burning hydrogen is basically reacting hydrogen and oxygen to get water back and get the energy you put in to separate them in the first place back. Now, of course, because of the losses you don't even get the energy you put in back let alone that you get more so you can power the electrolyzer and pumps and have excess, you would also not get any oxygen back because the same amount you generated with electrolyzer you would need to burn all your hydrogen. Long story short, in real life, this setup would basically just run the same process back and forth, the end result would be the same water you pumped in and you would just be losing power to heat, so an over-complicated heater. Also pressure is not measured in grams or kilograms per tile (lets say meter cubed), because not all gasses have the same weight and so on..
@nikajo__8755
@nikajo__8755 6 жыл бұрын
Cryptic Fox, you are a genius! Thank you so much for this video. I'm still quite new to this game so this really helped me transferring from algae to electrolyser produced air. In fact, it helped a bit too much! I've been producing so much oxygen and delivering it so efficiently through ventilation ducts that my base has somehow become a bit overpressured in places haha! Not enough to be a big problem, just open the airlocks for a short time every now and then and it tends to sort itself out. This video also led to me being able to get some functioning exo-suits on the go. Big help, thanks again!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Glad the video was helpful. Hitting max pressure isn’t so bad. It’ll save you water (unless you’ve become reliant on the hydrogen haha)
@harrin1982
@harrin1982 5 жыл бұрын
Your starting video point (before 10 minutes) still has the water pump powered by the manual generator, which stops the flow of water unfortunately, when you disconnected the manual generator and water pump. With the water pump on the mix, there's an additional 240 w of power required, which does take it above the 800 w output of the hydrogen generator. But, this is still really clever! Once you get a Duplicant who can use the Tune-Up trait, you can easily toss a Power Control Station in there to improve the output of the system by 50% (3 cycle buff), making the output 1200 w and while it does take up a small amount of refined metal, is absolutely amazing!! I love this idea, and design!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Well it depends. Sometimes the power will spike above 800 and other times be below because both the water pump and the hydrogen gas pump only have to work periodically. You might need to have an additional battery in the setup to ensure no power is missed, but it could likely handle the pump as well. It's not uncommon for me to have my setup farther away from my water source so I don't often have the pump included though tbh.
@meru-rc7ur
@meru-rc7ur 4 жыл бұрын
I.. didnt rage quit playing oni after following your tutorial :" thank you
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@nomdeplume639
@nomdeplume639 3 жыл бұрын
Still works a treat. Gracias Senor!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@sumimasensir7956
@sumimasensir7956 6 жыл бұрын
I know the title is for a video game, I see the video is under the gaming section. BUT I CAN'T figure out why this sounds like I'm in an HVAC college program lecture.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Lol well there’s a lot of HVAC type stuff going on in the game :)
@scottwpilgrim
@scottwpilgrim 4 жыл бұрын
@Ice Bear There's training in a lot of fields that use video games. Gotta get with the times now.
@Spoonwood
@Spoonwood 5 жыл бұрын
I think a trick to keep the desired gases going to the pumps could work as follows: 1. Don't quite complete the circuitry to the electrolyzer and the pump intended to pump out only hydrogen gas. I don't have a good handle on how they work, but maybe there's some way to utilize a switch to make such that the bottom/pump intended to pump out oxygen/oxygen pump make for the only pump that runs for a bit. 2. Run the oxygen pump, pumping out all the gases from the chamber until the room is a vacuum, or at least, the top half of the chamber is a vacuum. 3. Then connect the circuitry for the electrolyzer and the upper/hydrogen pump. I think that will keep the gases pure, and the gases that initially get pumped out to make a vacuum were going to get pumped out anyways.
@AndrooUK
@AndrooUK 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, simple design. Oxygen generation is the constant bane of my playing this game. It can get frustrating managing heat and water! Having an in-game tutorial will be a nice addition... some day, maybe.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Hope it proves to be helpful
@djomega8462
@djomega8462 Жыл бұрын
Your videos have been overwhelmingly helpful! Thank you so much!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming Жыл бұрын
Glad they were helpful :)
@awhitney3063
@awhitney3063 6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial, thank you so much for this! I've been struggling with getting the most efficient system set up and this is super. If possible a tutorial on how to set up a plastic system would be awesome, or how you filter polluted water and make it actually drinkable again. Keep up the good work though, I appreciated being able to watch you build it in real time rather than it just being all finished already, A+
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Amber. Glad you enjoyed it.
@ZombiegirlPlayz
@ZombiegirlPlayz 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video!! Really helped me keep my poor duplicates breathing!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful :)
@Hassan-iq5gi
@Hassan-iq5gi 3 ай бұрын
شكرا لك هذي هي طريقة الوحيده التي نجحت معي شكرا لك وكل الطرق التي جربتها لم تنجح شكرا انت ممتاز
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 3 ай бұрын
أنا سعيد أنه كان مفيدا
@polani397
@polani397 6 жыл бұрын
0:42 Hans Po-Lo!!!
@acheron16
@acheron16 6 жыл бұрын
I started using this design to make mid game oxygen generators. I use Worts to cool the resulting oxygen to a manageable level (using radiating gas pipes) and isolate the oxygen room outside my base to control heat. Never managed to far enough to drop this and make a consolidated gas room, where all the worts I find cool Hydrogen which is then used to cool other stuff.
@tarrker
@tarrker 6 жыл бұрын
This is a very good idea. I especially like the weezewort room you made. I would have never thought to do that. What you said about the gasses isn't entirely true, though. I've found that gasses will mix a little when being released from machinery like the electrolyzer. They can't occupy the same space but every once in a while you'll see one block of oxygen and one block of hydrogen right next to each other for about half a second. This is only relevant if your gas pumps are really close to your electrolyzers. The setup you have is basically perfect. :)
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Well they can exchange places but they don’t mix/commingle.
@mankind3496
@mankind3496 3 жыл бұрын
I suggest to add atleast 4 tile up from the base of deodrizer to zero percent damage to hydrogen genrator and u can loop the water pipe to this entire system to cool it down
@TheGetstarted1
@TheGetstarted1 3 жыл бұрын
Love the tutorial! - Just sad you didnt tell about the cooling/heat part before the end, haha
@aeds9423
@aeds9423 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for your great job buddy! it helped a lot!
@JeremiahRose
@JeremiahRose 6 жыл бұрын
Well done. Time efficient tutorial, well explained.
@vitorfray
@vitorfray 6 жыл бұрын
I used this design, and I managed to condense a steam geyser, make use of the hot water on it AND power my base with the hydrogen. I connected this room to my main power wiring, and I ran a crude oil loop between the room and a steam geyser. The room doesn't overheat because of the fixed air output temperature. It does get hot, a lot, so I sealed it with insulating tiles.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I usually close it in with insulation too given the temp :)
@RazielDark
@RazielDark 5 жыл бұрын
i've learned a lot through your videos, thanks man ^^
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Glad they’re helpful :)
@HarpreetSingh-xg2zm
@HarpreetSingh-xg2zm 6 жыл бұрын
I add 3 wheezeworts inside the setup next to the oxygen pump. It has been turning 60 degrees oxygen to 25 quite quickly. I have an atmosensor in the oxygen pump to avoid pumping too much and letting it cool.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@ziraiah
@ziraiah 4 жыл бұрын
That's a nice touch! I might try it.
@maakiru
@maakiru 6 жыл бұрын
Want to follow up with a water managing video Q__Q??? That's the struggle I'm currently at....
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
water management in terms of conservation, creation, or distribution?
@maakiru
@maakiru 6 жыл бұрын
CrypticFox if there's a steam vent, creation is given (granted you have to cool down the water). But overall balancing the use of water for oxygen production and hitting the point where water purification is needed. Not everyone conveniently finds a steam vent. ;-;
@MrJerohm
@MrJerohm 6 жыл бұрын
I'd say creation in cases where a steam vent isn't accessible if you could ! Thanks for your videos, they helped a lot :)
@jacobfraser7967
@jacobfraser7967 6 жыл бұрын
ive had good luck with using polluted water through a filter for the bathrooms, sinks and oxygen generation, saving clean water for food
@ashurroth6585
@ashurroth6585 6 жыл бұрын
Ive never had a problem using germy water for food, but then again I don't use the micromusher... I do use the closed circuit for bathrooms though and use the excess water from toilets to power irrigation and electrolyzers.
@TheZephyrsWind
@TheZephyrsWind 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've been trying to get this set up for 12 hours & was determined not to use debug or watch a video... but yeah, still, now I'll move on without any more "cheating" so to speak. I like figuring stuff out myself.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Have fun!
@BenYork-UBY
@BenYork-UBY 6 жыл бұрын
This looks way more efficient than the air factories I was building. They were taking up half the industrial zone of my colony, clogging the whole base with pipes, consuming nearly all my natural gas power from all the pumps, filters and thermoregulators. Basically a whole lot of industrial porn. And if I lost natural gas then I lost air. I really gotta try this method instead
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Hope it works well for you :)
@WinoaKaronhiatens
@WinoaKaronhiatens 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually like real physics. Hydrogen is lighter then oxygen and oxygen is heavier then what air is considered so oxygen sinks while hydrogen floats. Since Oxygen is actually still fairly light and the fact that the earth is constantly in motion oxygen gets moved about which we know as wind. In terms Hydrogen stays close to the highest of our atmosphere. Another neat thing is using water to filter carbon dioxide. Probably why carbon dioxide tends loom over water in the game. With cold water it should turn into carbonic acid but of course we don't see much of that in the game asides being able to make soda which is made from it and water.
@Brixxter
@Brixxter 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a massive help. I always screw up my colony at around 40 cycles. 😕
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
happy to help :)
@drmccoy33
@drmccoy33 9 ай бұрын
Great video, nice smart setup even all these years later still great! One thing i don't know if has been mentioned in comments is a nice easy resolution to heat issue issue on this build which i just tried is to make your structure out of insulated tile preferably igneous rock. Keeps the heat in, tested, 36c inside 27c outside!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 9 ай бұрын
Keeps the heat from the machines in, but since you're pumping out the hot oxygen it will steadily increase the heat in your base if you aren't doing some kind of cooling :)
@drmccoy33
@drmccoy33 9 ай бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGamingtrue, thanks for responding.. one other question on this.. is this only a short term mid game solution as would you not eventually run out of water? what si the long term solution for oxygen?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 9 ай бұрын
@@drmccoy33 These self powered oxygen machines are good through the rest of the game. You will need a source of more water though, so people will often build something around a geyser or two that are producing water. Typically your starting area water will last quite a while being used for this but will run out eventually if you don't tap into another source. "Damnit Jim I'm a doctor, not an Engingeer!"
@TAiiNE
@TAiiNE 4 жыл бұрын
Some ideas of things to try and improve on that I've worked on myself: 1. An mass Oxyfern + Pip farm. Located at the bottom of your base is a line of Pip stables side by side with a storage chest assigned to Oxyferns. The pips plant the ferns, with a few trees keeps them fed. Airflow tiles drops all the carbon dioxide into the farms. Can do this very early game with the only hold up being rushing the ranching research and getting a dupe to learn it. Bonus: Extra pips can be cooked. :3 2. Rust Deoxidizer + Water Treatment. Still need a better means to this, but its an enclosed Rust Deoxidizer that pumps out the air and fills a lower chamber with Chlorine. This chamber holds a few Liquid Reservoirs in a loop with a germ sensor that store germy water until its free them pumps the clean water to a tank. 3. A proper atmosuit setup that stops dupes from some how bypassing it!!!!!!!! dfbgsdfyvse5wb45ywb5hthv. 4. Are you 100% this system you show here still works? Because I just cant get it to go anymore. I use to, but its not doing much these days. i.imgur.com/la879fr.png As seen, the top pump, with the atmo sensor at above 750 rarly if ever pumps any hydrogen to the generator. The bottom pump ends up taking all the air, and hydrogen out of the system. If I toss in a gas filter, then it flat out cant run on its own and sustain it's self.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Yep I'm sure this system still works. I use it all the time in my colonies, though I think I may have added an additional battery.
@TAiiNE
@TAiiNE 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming I have 6 batteries right now trying to keep it going, it just isn't keeping up if I add the filter into it. But the bottom pump still sucks away most of the hydrogen with out it so the pressure above never hits more than 500 some. If I change the atmo to a lesser value, then it starts sucking in oxygen. Either or, I need a filter. And yes I started this system by making it a full vacuum first.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm that shouldn't be happening. Hard to troubleshoot when I can't see it though. Is there a consistent supply of water going to the electrolyzer?
@TAiiNE
@TAiiNE 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming Yes at the moment theres full water getting pumped to it. Though in a bit I'll be moving the setup and reworking things and doubleing up if I can get it to work proper. Moving the set up near two geysers that I finished a more proper water processing plant. Over flow will go to the electrolyzers. (and im finding I'm having a lot of overflow...)
@ColKorn.
@ColKorn. 6 жыл бұрын
Drip cooling is something I hadn't thought of. Nice.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Still gets hot, but not nearly as hot :)
@Taebs
@Taebs 6 жыл бұрын
Takes cool my base since "thermal update" ^^
@ColKorn.
@ColKorn. 6 жыл бұрын
Hey not sure how easy it is to receive KZbin PMs, but I sent you some stuff you might be able to use on your channel! Check it out if you get a chance. =]
@kampfret
@kampfret 3 жыл бұрын
just bought the game.. your tutorials are really helpful.. thank you.. subs done..
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful
@kampfret
@kampfret 3 жыл бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming it really is :)
@RetiringvirusReacts
@RetiringvirusReacts 9 ай бұрын
The only downside to electrolyzer's is the amount of water you're loosing and not replacing because it doesn't make polluted water within itself sadly, so you will require at minimum 2 steam geysers to keep your water flow coming in while running this, and even then you may run out of water lol. This is an amazing tutorial and great video over all thank you
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 9 ай бұрын
Yeah you definitely need a good supply of water, but I generally find by the time my water starts getting short I've found other sources :)
@RetiringvirusReacts
@RetiringvirusReacts 9 ай бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming ah fair enough! I appreciate the comment back on a video from many years ago haha, keep up the good work and love your channel 👏
@glenni83
@glenni83 6 жыл бұрын
Love ur videos. They are extremly handy. I try to figure stuff out my self, coming here feels like cheating. You solve my problems every time :D
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Haha happy to help. It’s fun to experiment, but also helpful to see how other people do things too.
@aixerona
@aixerona 6 жыл бұрын
the dorky supernova still going strong!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Still alive and kicking so far!
@sodori
@sodori 5 жыл бұрын
My god, that is absolutely amazing!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Hope its helpful
@alizinyan
@alizinyan 6 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks a lot! I've been having troubles with oxygen prodution, gonna follow your tips!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Hope it helps :)
@ratheonhudson3311
@ratheonhudson3311 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another inciteful tutorial
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Hope it proves helpful :)
@captaineek
@captaineek 6 жыл бұрын
That was super helpful! Thanks!!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Happy to help :)
@ariedge2435
@ariedge2435 6 жыл бұрын
very helpfull thanks cryptic fox... it is well done..
@NarikGaming
@NarikGaming 6 жыл бұрын
As I see it there is one way to make this more efficient. You can take out the bottom pump and put some airflow tiles in to let the oxygen flow straight to your base. I've had electrolyzers provide all of my power needs with a setup like that.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Yep that works too. I like being able to pump the air where I need it and also cool it to a controlled temp
@NarikGaming
@NarikGaming 6 жыл бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming Thought of another way, made a base with multiple unenclosed electrolyzers and a hydrogen collector at the top using gaseous element sensor. Wherever I want cooling I can make a small pocket with wheezeworts where hydrogen will collect. Could even automate it to release the hydrogen from the pockets if it gets too cold.
@TheWarhawk08
@TheWarhawk08 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, quick question, do you have 1 on ranching as simple as this?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
Not at the moment, nope. After the 1.0 update in June I'm planning to rework the tutorials I have to cover a couple of items I haven't yet, and to revise others that have changed with game updates.
@FunkyCheshire
@FunkyCheshire 5 жыл бұрын
Why do I keep finding you, and why are you so helpful.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
lol I've played a lot of ONI over the past couple of years :)
@FunkyCheshire
@FunkyCheshire 5 жыл бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming stop appearing in my searches whenever I have no idea how to play oni :(((((
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
lol you'd have to talk to Google about that :)
@GeneralBlorp
@GeneralBlorp 4 жыл бұрын
You can send the hot O2 directly to exo-suits without issue, then send the excess to cooling solutions. Better to use liquids to soak up heat from gases. Uses less piping.
@lalathelemonllama
@lalathelemonllama 4 жыл бұрын
This game is so complex holy guacamole
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
It certainly can be :)
@rifty603
@rifty603 6 жыл бұрын
This video helped me so much
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful :)
@wowovanmbothen
@wowovanmbothen 6 жыл бұрын
Need more tutorial videos... and playlist too, so i can easily watch it
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I have all of the tutorials in a playlist currently (though it includes some older ones)
@wowovanmbothen
@wowovanmbothen 6 жыл бұрын
CrypticFox aha... finally found the playlist 😂
@p-51player13
@p-51player13 3 жыл бұрын
this works so great
@tennohack6704
@tennohack6704 4 жыл бұрын
There have been quite a few updates since this video was released, does this still work today?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Might need one more battery for power consistency but otherwise it still works as intended.
@tennohack6704
@tennohack6704 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming Sweet! Thank you!
@bilalicro
@bilalicro 3 жыл бұрын
thanks this is pretty useful
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps
@spicytauren
@spicytauren 10 ай бұрын
great advice going to try this tomorrow, I'm going for Lovacore (no plants) and super sustainable achievements :)
@spicytauren
@spicytauren 9 ай бұрын
update: I got the achievement! Working on super sustainable now
@estebanarriola1061
@estebanarriola1061 6 жыл бұрын
Really usefull and easy to understand tutorial
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad it was helpful :)
@void1984
@void1984 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Without the cooling part, I've cooked a few of my colonies, with the food plans dying first.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would get a bit hot :)
@12463trf
@12463trf 6 жыл бұрын
I just got the game a few days ago, so this may seem like a silly question, but what happens / what do you do, when your batteries/power generator is full? or after that is full, and hydrogen starts building up? Can you just leech small bits of power out of that loop conveniently?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
the generator will run so long as it has hydrogen. It doesn't pay attention to the battery fullness, so it should never result in hydrogen backing up unless you've used a smart battery to turn the generator off. You could connect this to a transformer and leach little bits of power off, but you'd want some mechanism to stop it from draining all the power out of the loop or the system would stop.
@squirrely_wrath
@squirrely_wrath 4 жыл бұрын
is vacuum cooling an option since you could encorporate it in your oxygen production grid?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
They may have changed it, but it used to not be an option as the vacuum has no specific heat capacity and so it can't take on any heat from the pipes flowing through it.
@horusrage
@horusrage 6 жыл бұрын
One thing that I was thinking looking at your situation with the thermal regulator. Wouldn't chaining a thermal regulator in terms of an gas pump work so you move the thermal regulators thing to yet another thermal regulators. Then if you have the right temperature you can reintroduce it into the system as appropriate temperature gas. Kinda make a closed system that way. where the gas is constantly move through the heat to be returned as well.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. Thermal regulators do produce a lot of heat though so you’ll need to manage that. I generally use wheezeworts because they manage the heat passively
@judtt
@judtt 7 ай бұрын
great guide!
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 7 ай бұрын
Hope it’s helpful
@oO0Inuyasha0Oo
@oO0Inuyasha0Oo 6 жыл бұрын
If you move the bottom section down one more block you can fit a few weezewort into the build and that seems to remove most of the heat problem. (I also added insulated walls but dunno if that's needed just yet.)
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Yep that's one option.
@baconburger-zt9ro
@baconburger-zt9ro 6 жыл бұрын
Can you make a tutorial on how to farm anything? Plz? My pincha pepper plants keep dying.
@Taebs
@Taebs 6 жыл бұрын
You should mention that you "technically" need TWO pumps for the oxygen, because the electrolyzer will "MAX PRESSURE!" even with two pumps for the oxygen. A pump can handle 500g/s the electrolyzer will produce ~888g/s but due to the "physics" and the distribution for gases in this game, the air can't move quickly enough to the pumps. But two are better then one ;) The self contained power grid can handly two also.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
You could yes, though neither pump would be moving their max capacity :)
@JayzenFreeze
@JayzenFreeze 4 жыл бұрын
Dang the cold biomes warm up? Do the warm/hot biomes eventually cool down?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
The cold biomes only warm up as you add heat to them. you can cool down the hot biomes by drawing heat out but it takes a lot.
@JayzenFreeze
@JayzenFreeze 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming oh ok thanks, Thought you where saying they warmed up over time on their own thanks.
@JustFeelingsCrafts
@JustFeelingsCrafts 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Will this setup work with smart batteries. I tried it but the system run out power really fast. Maybe I did something wrong
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
There's no benefit to building it with smart batteries. The idea is to store up as much power as you can while the hydrogen generator is running, so when it stops you can run off the batter power for a time until its ready to go again.
@JustFeelingsCrafts
@JustFeelingsCrafts 4 жыл бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming thank you
@Gunbudder
@Gunbudder 4 жыл бұрын
i didn't realize gasses were immiscible in the game. i seem to see them "mixing" but now i realize its that the pressure in my hydrogen tiles was dropping enough to create a vacuum, which WILL allow an oxygen tile to pop up there. They swap places very quickly though, giving the appearance of "mixing"
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they can't occupy the same tile, but in the right conditions they will swap places
@mikehanks
@mikehanks 6 жыл бұрын
I like the oxygen vids :) would like to see more about cooling! some say heat is very annoying in this game. and maybe the hardest thing.
@shao9875
@shao9875 6 жыл бұрын
in a way it is
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
It can be a nuisance yeah
@dizno3555
@dizno3555 5 жыл бұрын
hey, would it be more efficient to use a different design with one pump and a gas filter becasue it takes less wattage? I'm actually curious...
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
This conversation has come up a bunch in the comments on this video. There's more than one way to tackle each problem, but from my perspective I like using the two pumps because it gives me a highly consistent flow of oxygen, and a predictable pattern of hydrogen supplied to my generator to keep powering the whole system.
@CynthiaWoodard
@CynthiaWoodard 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. Question for you - would you still use the room with wheezeworts for cooling if your steam geyser was really close to an anti entropy device?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
No I might be inclined to try the anti entropy machine then, though it produces a crazy amount of cold
@tiefighterpilot8029
@tiefighterpilot8029 3 жыл бұрын
Can you use that to produce power...for instance if i put more of all of these will it produce much power for a part of a base that needs around 1500 watts
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you have to be careful not to draw too much power from the system or it could fail
@Ghorda9
@Ghorda9 5 жыл бұрын
you can automate algae terrariums via dripping water on them and using a valve to limit the water flow, if you put dioxidisers on top the bottles of polluted water will turn into more oxygen, netting you twice as much.
@fuselier9638
@fuselier9638 6 жыл бұрын
is this possible with more than one electrolyzers?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. I've been lately using 2 electrolyzers with 3 O2 pumps, and 1 Hydrogen pump.
@fuselier9638
@fuselier9638 6 жыл бұрын
@@CrypticFoxGaming Thanks for replying you earned a subscriber
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
I read everything and try to respond to most :)
@nimazoghi6219
@nimazoghi6219 5 жыл бұрын
That was great i just wish u mention what kind of gas pipe needed to make the oxgen cold in way
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
I use the radiant gas pipe in the area with the wheezeworts, but the rest of it is insulated pipe to avoid temperature changes.
@nathaliasantoss
@nathaliasantoss 6 жыл бұрын
I just love your voice
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nathalia :)
@thetechw1z
@thetechw1z 5 жыл бұрын
This design requires automation... do i just have to stall until i reach automation to build it?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
For this build yeah. Without the pressure sensor you’ll deplete too much hydrogen and won’t maintain the O2 and hydrogen separation
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 5 жыл бұрын
You could do something similar though with a smaller room and use a filter with a single pump and just filter out the hydrogen. Won’t have quite the same O2 throughput but it’ll work before you get to automation
@thetechw1z
@thetechw1z 5 жыл бұрын
CrypticFox Thanks for the helpful answer! Been following your streams for quite some time now...
@VoidplayLP
@VoidplayLP 3 жыл бұрын
Just something to help out: if you want to include a filtering mechanism, dont use the gas filter, itd highly inefficient in terms of energy use. Use a gas shutoff, immediately after a gas element sensor, and connect them with automation wire. The shutoff will filter out the selected gas just like a filter, but other than a filter, it will not consume power with every bit of gas that flows through. It only uses power when actually filtering, and even then it uses 110 watts less.
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 3 жыл бұрын
With this setup, aside from the initial setup where you'll get some O2 in the hydrogen a filtering system isn't necessary as the H2 is automatically filtered by the design.
@Tersdotco
@Tersdotco 3 жыл бұрын
i got that compact room vacuumed ! how to avoid that ? thanks
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 3 жыл бұрын
use a pressure sensor to controll the hydrogen pump.
@Self-replicating_whatnot
@Self-replicating_whatnot 2 жыл бұрын
Does this design still work in a current version of the game?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 2 жыл бұрын
So far as I know but I haven’t tried in a while
@DagothWit
@DagothWit 4 жыл бұрын
I'm having an issue where the generator is not creating enough power to stay running. I had to add a treadmill as a backup if the power gets too low. Is this something that might have been changed since you put up the video?
@CrypticFoxGaming
@CrypticFoxGaming 4 жыл бұрын
No I still build these the same way but you can add an additional battery if its not storing up enough of a charge when its running on the hydrogen power.
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