How to Make a Poor Man's Mitre Box | Paul Sellers

[@revwayne6168]

I needed a miter box to help a neighbor replace some small trim on his bay window. I didn't want to haul my boat anchor-of-a-miter saw for these small pieces. I watched this video three or four times then built one. My neighbor was stunned at how dead on accurate the cuts were and said, "that's brilliant!" I told him that it's Paul Seller's idea not mine I just copied him. Thank you Paul!

[@hudsonriverlee]

Yes, Acrprmann, I pay attention. I watch Mr. Paul Sellers, working with chisels and hand planes, and hand saws and such as often as I can. My Favorite of all wood working videos on the internet, is watching Paul Sellers make the Geometric Inlay. Utilizing this very design of miterbox. I made the Poorman router, the dovetail guide. When a woodworking master teaches, they stop and mention what to be more Critical off. I had never even Heard of a knife wall. Never, until watching Paul Sellers cutting several across a board. I utilize the knife wall all the time now. As well, I stopped using a pencil, and began using a marking knife. All things I learned by watching the Master woodworker. Seeing Paul file away the teeth on a saw blade and recut them, my head still spins. Then, among all else, I watched Paul Sellers make the Dovetail guide on a board, mark out the lines to cut and, then flip the board over and mark the opposite side. The simplest low set up time of any tool. This is what I do every Early Am. I enjoy Paul's videos. Well done Mr. Sellers. Simply well done. I love the ending of the Geometric inlay video when you place the bookmark into your own book, that is clever beyond words.

[@thecordlesscarpenter7956]

Never ceases to amaze me how efficiently you work. You work so efficiently it almost looks like you are working very slowly but as I follow along with your videos I find myself looking for the remote to rewind button because I'm so slow... I have to remind myself you've been doing this for 50+ years. Love all the videos! beginning my doorman's workbench build next week! Please don't stop.

[@PeterWMeek]

+Darrell Gardner - Sharp tools (which cut very fast) make things look easy. Watch (if you haven't) some of Paul's saw, plane, and chisel sharpening videos. Knowing how to use them completes the formula for "easy" woodworking.

[@thecordlesscarpenter7956]

Thanks for the tip, I've actually watched every single one of his videos. I've began sharpening my saws, made a few mallets (getting ready to make another out of osage orange), winding sticks, making a TV stand now... in preps for the bench. I've been a machinist for 23 years and just getting into (6 months so far) traditional woodworking. What I find difficult is transferring from metal where I'm used to .0001 tolerances, to wood where the tolerances are layout are obviously different. I'll get there, it's just going to take a bit of time breaking the habit of precision and use to fractions vise decimals lol.

[@AlAmantea]

Mr. Sellers, I am always amazed at how simply you are are to breakdown complex joinery. Your videos are worth your weight in gold. Every time I watch them, I am fully captivated and engaged in what you do. You are truly a master of the craft and I feel privileged to have a glimpse into your world. Thank you for all you do.

[@DaceyMark]

I've just built one of these in 10 minutes! and I can't believe how accurate it is! Thanks Paul -

[@michaelmiller463]

Another well done video. We need a video on the making of that marking gauge. I love the pin for locking it down. Right at the thumb. Great design.

[@doodlebrighton124]

Perfect! Beautifully explained and it's helped me cut my mitres for window bead absolutely spot on! Thanks so much

[@fridunanti]

Great! Paul goes, as usual, his own and allmost provocative, way. Things are not complicated with Paul

[@allenholdway8683]

Paul, as a newbe in woodworking, your time and help has been a great benefit to me . I spent a lot of time learning about tools and techniques from you. Thanks for taking the time to help us learn from your videos.

[@peterkell2341]

Old school wood worker. Wish he was my teacher when at school. Nice calm voice sir Thank you

[@MrFtax]

Useful, simple & effective. Inexpensive too. Thanks Paul! On a side note, I hope that you start teaching again here in the USA. I look forward to another class.

[@byLokie]

I bought a Mitre box years ago. It was sloppy where the saw guides were but I stuck some duct tape on one side of the channel to remove the sloppiness. It works a treat I made this too and it’s very accurate. Thank you

[@zioMav89]

5 minute saved me lots of time, Paul you are priceless

[@seanc7151]

Very simple and very good. Thank you Paul and your team.

[@harley75us]

There is only one thing I can say.God, I love watching you work (teach).What ever word or words you want to use to describe what you do.I have learned so much & expect to learn so much more.I have received confirmation that my recent book order should be in my splintered hands in about 3 to 4 weeks.I can hardly wait. I feel like I did as a little kid on Christmas morning.Thank You so very much for what you do for the wood working community,I am also very thankful for the internet. Without it I don't know if I would have found you.I hope this doesn't sound to mushy. But then again I really don't care.Marty

[@tex24]

Great video showing how to make an accurate hand tool without a power tool.

[@notcharles]

Exactly what I need for aa simple miter job! Thanks, once again, for a solution!

[@nasarazam]

Paul makes everything looks so easy. :-)

[@marydsmyth]

Amazing! Very impressive. Im fed up looking for a 30 degree mitre box and now I can make my own in the morning. Merci mille fois!

[@garycottreau8442]

Nice Paul. I have never seen anything like this. Hats off!

[@Valk69]

Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge. I could watch you work wood all day long.

[@StopGravity]

Have been using a store bought mitre box and as you noted, "...sloppy..." So glad to see this video. As always, thank you for your inspirational tutorials. Looking forward to getting your book.

[@ScrapwoodCity]

Really useful tool to have around in the shop! Thanks for sharing!

[@fabianmalcolm6511]

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[@camilomoises2032]

@Fabian Malcolm instablaster =)

[@fabianmalcolm6511]

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[@fabianmalcolm6511]

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[@camilomoises2032]

@Fabian Malcolm You are welcome xD

[@HerrLavett]

Thank you. Makes me feel warm inside.

[@Offshoreorganbuilder]

Another perfect demonstration of a very useful idea. Many thanks.

[@MG-vo7is]

I had no idea I needed something like this. Wow!

[@user-ov7su1lg3h]

Wow. Incredible precision!

[@NoOne-fe3gc]

7:47 Beautiful , Simple and Effective . That about sums up this channel

[@johnbarneswood]

Easy and simply tip. I'll have to give a shot at it sometime

[@TechTins_Projects]

Love it. You make it all look so easy. Then when I try and attempt the same thing its never right. One day ;-)

[@phabi0]

damn right. LOL

[@giuseppeconti7363]

A real master . Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@12Fritzi12]

beautifully simple effective - there is nothing more to say. Great

[@dantco]

That's easy! The idea appears to be spend a few extra seconds to get two precise 45s that will produce many 45s...for those times when I'm away from my shop...love it! I gotta hunt down that double-sided tape too! Paul defied me to pull it apart...not to prove him wrong, but to test the strength.

[@paulsellers7953]

+dantco Actually, you don't really need to tape the pieces. Just clamp them in the vise.

[@dantco]

I actually like the tape idea. I'm already working a source! :-)

[@philgibbs4045]

You can use Gorilla or Scotch D/S mounting tape. Super strong stuff - and I doubt if you'll get the 2 pieces apart.

[@blackswanprepping8827]

Great alternative to a chop saw, thanks for sharing!

[@TobyGarcia]

+Dutchhorse - probably more accurate to say a chop saw is a poor alternative to this.

[@wickerkicker]

+Toby Garcia Yeah nah

[@Offshoreorganbuilder]

+Dutchhorse And no loss of fingers!

[@RcFlyer49]

This new shop looks strikingly similar to the old shop! ;)

[@paulsellers7953]

+PiperCub49 This is the old one. We filmed this over a year ago in Wales.

[@Exiledk]

That's a nice little Crown gents saw.... I want one.

[@thefunbot]

you make it look effortless!

[@vaniasaucer]

Thank you for the video. Now I can make my "poor woman'" mitre box!!

[@taylarogers313]

Did you ever make it? I'm a "do it yourself" girl and I am having the toughest time framing some shelves and a mirror in my bathroom

[@MattDiresta]

great, simple solution!

[@joejamesmonroe1854]

Hi Paul, Ive seen you use some very nice marking gauges over the years. The one you used today seems very easy & fast to adjust. Would you show us how to make one like this? Thanks. You are a true Master!!

[@purpleturkey11]

Good tip Paul, thanks ... wish my chisel was as keen as yours, very sharp 👍

[@nuttiBONG]

I love you man keep going as long as you can Paul!

[@brigittesvideostuff]

I made one and it worked! Thanks for posting.

[@peterbradbury1592]

A really clever idea Paul

[@Mienecus]

Awesome simplicity!

[@brianknowles7130]

Many thanks .. certainly solved or will help me solve one the problems that I continue to have. Great vid.Rgds

[@samwiser989]

Amazing tip, really enjoy your videos and looking forward to the chair build :)

[@jorgefernandez8774]

interesantes e instructivos sus enseñanzas como siempre gracias por ello jorge de argentina

[@joelhenry4643]

Pure perfection!

[@pablo24scotland]

As always pleasure to watch :)

[@ikust007]

Always the Master ❤

[@marcinlenski3857]

Thank you. It looks so easy :-)

[@Nebulaoblivion]

This was beautiful, thank you for sharing.

[@balbino108]

Very good! Thanks for sharing!

[@ephemerics]

Thank you.

[@creaseref]

Hi Paul, I need to cut an outside corner at 42 degrees by hand, ???

[@gautambarua8260]

Is this good for cutting a 3inch picture frame molding? I see that your mitre box has only one wall as opposed to two in most boxes.

[@Paul.Sellers]

Just make it long enough for two opposite mitres.

[@LivefreeanddiyTv]

great tip, thanks for sharing!

[@JanFlycaster]

As always: loved it!

[@Spartakips]

Excellent quick tip, Paul! Out of curiosity, any recommendations for a reliable and accurate combination square? The two I own are annoyingly prone to wiggling apart and going out of square.

[@Offshoreorganbuilder]

+Max Makes I may be wrong, but I seem to remember noticing that Paul uses a 'Starret.' I have 2 of them (miniature 6" and the 12", like Paul's) and have found them to be convenient to use (i.e. not too heavy) and accurate.

[@Spartakips]

Fantastic, thank you very much!

[@josehgoncalves3805]

Excelente.... Muito grato

[@gall_blader_works]

Can i use plywood to make on of these? Or is solid wood the recommended option?

[@rwhermogenes6554]

Thank you Sir!

[@cesarrodriguez9597]

+ Paul Sellers You mentioned that the jig would eventually ware out. How about installing some metal guides?

[@TheDanielsWoodLandShow]

Cool stuff!

[@ClamsAnonymous]

god, this dude is such a G

[@alainthys5516]

merci de nous partager votre savoir

[@shouldibehere]

Genius!

[@user8ZAKC1X6KC]

So way back before power tools. How did finish carpenters make off angle cuts for miters and stuff. Like 48 degrees or something. Miter boxes only seem to do perfect angles. Why am I asking? Sometimes as a landlord I have to cut one piece of trim and I don't have my Miter saw with me. I have my manual saw... and some wood. This seems like a good option. Did pre-powertool carpenters just make a custom miter box every time? Maybe they just got a really good at making really accurate off cut angles free hand.

[@nathanwooler8047]

That is a nice looking hand saw! What is the brand?

[@paulsellers7953]

+Nathan Wooler Crown, UK. Sold by Woodcraft USA.

[@Oldiesyoungies]

Awesome!

[@r.kaschka9682]

Can you show us how to sharpen the Drills for the Handdrill?

[@EngineeringVignettes]

+Raphael Kaschka I think I saw something in the archives on sharpening the snail on an auger.

[@paulsellers7953]

+Raphael Kaschka You are probably talking about twist drills here and these can only be sharpened on grinding wheels as they are too hard for filing or on stones.

[@artemdavinci]

Create a video for making a marking gauge. Such as: 2:34

[@thomasarussellsr]

what is the TPI on that Gent's saw?

[@thinkstorm]

I'm not as proficient as you in cutting that neatly, my miters are not quite 45 degrees (though I'm getting better). But I put another 1x3 on the other side as well, same height, and cut the complementing piece of wood on the other side: if my miter on side1 is a bit over 45deg it will be the same amount under 45deg on side2, and together they always make 90 degrees. voila. :) crisis averted.

[@axegrinder3746]

T.C After 40+ years in fine furniture I had never thought about what you just said. The two pieces would have to compliment themselves perfectly making it a perfect 90 deg. every time! This is very good for painted or say higher-up trim not seen as close. For what I do with furniture 99% I could not use this tip but..., very clever indeed.

[@bighands69]

@@axegrinder3746 As long as you use the same slot in reverse it will cut the opposing angle. In the end you really need to use a shooting board for the best accuracy.

[@AsiAzzy]

True master. You need accurate 45? mark it and cut it free hand while eyballing it. That is master level experience with a saw. Mine isn't great as all my freehand cuts are not straight or plumb or perpendicular to work, same with freehand drilling. I base my accuracy on jigs for now. Maybe I'll reach a level where i can rely on my cuts to be plumb just from feel and experience.. somewhere in distance future perhaps.

[@passmeby9398]

Eight amazing minutes.

[@dmand2353]

4:43 I instinctively blew at the screen XD.

[@philrichmond7567]

Can I use 18mm mdf to make the mitre box?

[@gregoryv3147]

You should be able to use anything for the mitre box. Though some materials such as MDF will wear faster than others

[@zumbazumba1]

Hey Paul,what brand is your tenon saw and how much does it cost ? Can you recommend a good saw for dovetails and box joints,something that doesn't cost 200$,i have some boxes to make in a future and i am in a need of a non profesional tool that will get the job done,something between chinese junk and Veritas 500$ saw.I am on a budget ,i heard hacksaws can be used as well ,is that true??? Very nice and educational video as usualy,keep a good job!

[@dancutler7418]

+zumbazumba1 The saw is made by Crown Hand Tools in England. I don't know about prices though.

[@thoperSought]

zumbazumba1 you can use almost anything, but there are trade-offs. I've heard of people using hacksaws, and getting good results-the most important thing is how you use your body and how you prepare the stock-but hacksaws are set up to cut metal, so it's going to be harder and take longer to make the cut. I have no idea about surface finish, tho. if you're just buying a couple of saws, you might look at the Lie Nielsen ones-afaik, they are the most reasonably priced premium saws available, now, and they work great. another thing you could check out is Paul's frame saw video. he made a really simple saw for very little money. the reason I didn't go that route is that I haven't been able to find blades that matched what I wanted-the easiest option is to use a miter-box saw blade, and they are all crosscut, afaik. there's a 32tpi blade by Nobex on Highland Woodworking for $17. they also have a complete frame saw with a Japanese-style blade for $125. for joinery, if the frame saw is too big (as most of the commercial ones seem to be) it'll be hard to control. also, I have had a hard time with the inline handle (like the gent's saw he's using)-I'd much rather have a back-saw-style handle. if you build one yourself, that's an option. for myself, in order to learn from a firm foundation, I wanted clear, traditional cross- and rip-cut blades, so I went with the Lie Nielsen tenon and carcass saws. but Paul got really good results with the frame saw he made, so that might be a good option for you. Dan Cutler mentioned Crown, and their prices seem to be pretty good-maybe cheaper than Lie Nielsen. I can't speak to the quality personally. the price of their dovetail saw is very good, but it's really short. I have no idea if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

[@paulsellers7953]

+zumbazumba1 Nope. Hacksaws don't quite slice it for me. Actually the best inline Gents saw for the money if you do want to buy new is the Veritas one which can be had in the UK for under £40. I wish it had 16 ppi but they do hold a cutting edge well and I can resharpen them with a fine file.

[@paulsellers7953]

+Dan Cutler If you do buy the crown or any of those made by Thomas Flynn with the Gent's-style handle you will need to sharpen them when they come as they don't out their best efforts into this part of their saw making, shameful though that is. Just see the saw as a kit.

[@paulsellers7953]

+ThoperSought Lot's of info there but please don't be put of by inline gents saws as they are some of the very best because they give the most direct thrust. Lie Nielsen saws are not really inexpensive at around £96 here in the UK. That's 3 times that of Veritas I believe. Somewhat prohibitive to many woodworkers without better results. Depends on what you want but i don't want people getting the impression they must have to spend a lot. Actually, it may not look as pretty, but the Zona 24PPI modellers saw cuts pristine cuts too and that's only £10.

[@headknocker8999]

You should have put a mini starrett square on that miter at the end to show how perfect it was.. I'm gonna make myself a fret slot miter box for .023" kerf & put a piece of plexi on two wing nuts into the saw to adjust the depth, That's the idea anyhow instead of buying an expensive setup & saw from Stewart McCdonald

[@matthewholborow9942]

I love this video! Who needs plastic tat when you can make something proper yourself in 10 minutes?

[@JoseRojas-bo8dw]

What is the name of the tool used to measure the 45 degree angle along the piece of wood?

[@paulrowell9898]

Combination square

[@JoseRojas-bo8dw]

Thanks

[@scottlomas5509]

How do you do it for a 7inch kick board ?

[@Paul.Sellers]

Use plywood, it will extend that far without distortion.

[@Ljungbacken7181]

I whant some more complex movies.....thnx though fore a good tip on mighterbox... =)

[@paulsellers7953]

+Magnus Johnsson All complex projects are made up of simple moves relying on steps like this, Magnus.

[@Ljungbacken7181]

yeah, i know....Sorry, what i meant whas, i love to see you work on something that are bigger better stronger and more komplex....i just love to see how you do it.... I have seen every vidio, all of them.... =)

[@uaaerospace]

+Magnus Johnsson He presents more complicated projects at woodworkingmasterclasses.com. He charges a nominal fee for access to the project videos, but as a paying member I will say that it is well worth it.

[@CryoGenUK]

Was it a near perfect 90 degrees?... you didn't measure it. It looked good but was it true? Thanks for the video, very informative as usual. :D

[@paulsellers7953]

+CryoGenUK Most likely I haven't had one out of true in many years. And I can cut them 45-degrees without the box by eye.

[@CryoGenUK]

I don't doubt your skill, I bet it was. :D

[@ibrhemahmed170]

Very goood

[@malcommountie4326]

class

[@ДенисФ-ъ3ъ]

Круто придумано, спасибо)

[@oktcbs12]

how can I make a marking gage. sr.

[@paulsellers7953]

+joe morado I made the one I used there and it is simple enough to make. Feel another video coming on here!

[@oktcbs12]

+Paul Sellers awesome. . thanks sr..

[@tahraqapie4783]

genius

[@cynthiajluciene9677]

Great video, thank you, but I don't know what the name of the tool is that you used to mark the angles on the miter box. :( I don't like having to ask someone at the home improvement stores because they see 1. I'm a woman, 2. I'm a bit "seasoned" (60 yrs old) and 3. I'm blonde. I guess it's natural for anyone who notices these 3 things about me to assume I have no idea what I'm doing which is sometimes offensive to me, especially if I'm already having a rough day. I've actually been known to lash out at an innocent young man who thought he would help me by giving me advice based on his "vast knowledge and experience" he aquired in just a few months of working at the store. Hmph! If the poor kid refers to me as "Ma'am" instead of "Miss", well then he's really in for it. So dear sir, that said, I'm pretty sure you can understand why I'd appreciate it if you named the tools you were using in your videos. (I'm pretty positive the kids working at home improvement stores would appreciate it as well, even more so than I) ...wink, wink... Thank you so much.

[@TimothyEdDoran]

Better late than never. Are you referring to the combination square?

[@달나라시민]

Thank you! I am a Poor Man.

[@keisermick]

You are my god!

[@mykidsdad9]

You mentioned that you wouldn't have to use a "Shooting Board"... what is a Shooting Board?

[@aidanearl]

it's a board which allows a plane to run up the side of it at a 90 degree angle to ensure the cut is 90 degrees (or whatever angle you set the board to.

[@schnooder]

Frustrated. I've tried this device so many times and still can't seem to get my miters correct. My box cut is true and straight, but when I use it to make single cut to a piece of 2x2, then rotate one of the two cut pieces 180* to check, I'm way out of square.

[@schnooder]

I'm think you misinterpreted my comment Derek. I was not implying that Mr. Sellers jig was poorly designed, I was looking for friendly advice or constructive tips as to how I might figure out what I was doing wrong. You gave me neither.

[@cesarrodriguez9597]

Derek Charette If it is such a elementary skill, why don't you tell him what he did wrong? So that he may correct his ' operator error '. Maybe you can't teach, therefore you are not inclined to be making this type of comments. If you are not here to help, keep your opinions to yourself.

[@LucianoRabassa]

nice :-)

[@planofaction_]

well hot damn.

[@nikoskaravas903]

!!!!!👍

[@VovanVedernikov]

Это не показатель. Хотябы рамку собрали.