How to Make a SCANIA V8 More Economical & Powerful!

[@-DC-]

Never a dull day dealing with trucks 👍

[@framfull]

Hey Stavros, you make things looks easy so with your positive aura! Keep up the good work🤠

[@annoying_thing]

11:57 Oh yeah really nice, how the cables goes around the sharp edges of the cover. Good Luck.

[@rmodjeski29]

Watching this from the US, this makes me want a Scania now!

[@barrylaite8821]

Your trucks are definitely getting better fuel mileage than what we’re getting over here in Canada. Over here, I know that we go by US gallons compared to imperial gallons, but that being said, my 2020 Peterbilt at best running through the Rocky Mountains running at about 35 tons, the best I can get out of it is anywhere between 4.3 to 5.2 miles per gallon.

[@iankirkpatrick264]

Don’t forget too, the cetane level in Europe is higher than here in N America. Try adding cetane boost additive, make sure too that you’re tire pressure’s, filters and valve setup are all set correctly. I have a 378 with a Paccar and I’m returning on average 7.6mpg running 80k/lbs most trips. Another thing is, drive it like a truck and not a car, let it do the work instead of bullying it….easy on the throttle, and make max use of your jakes!!

[@johnbell6854]

Hi Stavros the best thing to do is get the power mode turened of and the kick down and also set the injectors and valves set up and check the wasegate on turbo is not worn This will make more difference than that box if you are interested in having The power mode turned off just ask Me I have tec to do this I am often in Southern Ireland

[@Hypheh]

Lets start with a smalltalk about fuel cost and ecodriving with driver first, shall we? Systems are not bad, wrong usage is. That sayd, driving myself Scania for last few years now, never used kickdown and have all gearbox modes activated, using only standard tho, with ability to go manual at every speed.

[@Jellan]

Absolutely, this is clearly not a hardware issue but a driver issue. New driver needs training, not more power.

[@Hypheh]

@@Jellan Guess you've seen those new young guys, with enthusiastic eyesight and some old bloke's instruction to go full speed everywhere and anytime cause you're always, always in the hurry.😃 Let them drive their own and choose their instructors better, they'll figure it out that you actually can go full speed on highways, but freerolling and inertia is a thing too. Lorry is not a race car.

[@zuberhamad7216]

From Tanzania 🇹🇿🇹🇿🚚

[@TomH112]

Watch darkside development’s video on tuning boxes before buying one of these and make up your own mind. Personally, a quality remap is the only way to go.

[@rytiskurcinskas7179]

exactly !

[@Brian-ee1wv]

The ones on the darkside development video are rail pressure tuning boxes they work very differently than this so shouldn't compare

[@Iulian.I]

For us, Europeans that use liters and kilometers, 6.5 miles / gallon is about 43.46 liters / 100 km.

[@juliogonzo2718]

To further confuse things there are two different sized gallons imperial and US

[@Nugralized]

@@juliogonzo2718 confusion intensifies

[@kp-qr6hy]

There's me only getting 29 Lt per 100km from a fh500

[@juliogonzo2718]

@@kp-qr6hy I used to get 39L/100k in a tandem straight truck if that makes you feel better. It was 30,000kg with 4.10 axle pulling lots of hills mind you

[@xz_ae111]

V-tec for the truck, sounds good. 😂 Great video Stavros, keep them coming.👍🏻

[@snifflingsmithster-d2240]

Good morning Stavros Looking forward to this video, as my dad drives an R580 V8 which averages around 7mpg

[@대구까니아]

아시아에 위치한 korea R560 가지고 있는 오너입니다 엔진 파워 업데이트에 관심이 많아서 영상으로 올린거 무엇인지??

[@Demonoid1990]

I'm in a company truck, just transferred into a new 2023/24 Freightliner Cascadia for Conestoga Glass. (Was just straight flatbed before, no more tarping with the conestoga/rolltop) Already had it in the shop once on my first load, hadn't even put 600 miles on it at the time, and soon as I hit the southbound hill in Wheeler Ridge, CA I had steam shooting out the hood. Turns out I had a bad 4 way valve going into the heater core and a pin hole in a pre-formed line. Aside from that haven't had any other issues, so far. Fuel economy is already worsr than my previous Cascadia, only averaging 5.5 MPG so far, though I do run heave in the mountains a lot. (76-80k LBs) Hoping as it breaks in some more it'll go up a bit. The turbo sure sounds weird though compared to my previous 2019 Cascadia. Odd whistling or chirping noise whenever I'm accelerating or climbing a grade. Not sure if Detroit changed it, or what. May have to ask the techs at our yard or something. Kinda annoying the adjusting to a new vehicle these day means troubleshooting all thr little quality control issues..

[@realVicTorres02]

Hello Stavros! I was watching your review of the Scania 164L V8 480 when I was notified of this video. :)

[@tropixMw2]

Probably changes the injection timing and thus also the NOx emisions...

[@imraanahmed4874]

I love trucks but don't know if I will ever be able to own some of these trucks, I definitely love to hear you talking about them beauties. Good luck gentleman.

[@yanniskouretas8688]

Great info . We're planing to add a SCANIA R500 to pair with our VOLVO FH16 460 and the mechanics we're pretty excited at the workshop (the drivers too) . Greetings from Greece mate .

[@johanbos160]

Nice video stavros and i hope the fuel consumption will be better in a few weeks 💪💪👍

[@djmcmalachymclaughlin2057]

Great information on the truck there will be a huge difference power will be unbelievable on the R560 well done Stavros🚛🚚🚛

[@elizerantwi3809]

Good morning Stavros good have another video

[@tracktrend9722]

good job! but i tought that if you buyin' v8 fuel is the last thing you care about as a driver :D (more fuel more points on fuel station for you're sandwich or coffe)

[@olivergunn2796]

Almost all of our trailers are Lawrence david 4.5m pillar less XL rated curtain siders, we're now getting SDC trailers with the same spec apart from them being 4.65, I don't find the straps loosening as you drive, but I do find if you open up half the curtain and the close it again, the other half will be slack, but they do make life a lot easier, especially with multi-drop work

[@2626stephen]

Nice one Stavros

[@mattbod]

A guy with a Greek name with an Irish accent, driving a Swedish truck on English roads: doesn’t come more cosmopolitan than that. Seriously though entertaining video!

[@mcnewtonmucheru298]

A trucker and an engineer. Wonderful!

[@thomasng196]

where can i purchase one of those VTC units?

[@sutrisaja590]

Hay...Stavros 🙋🙋🙋🙋

[@jadesmith6823]

You're a good man Stavros. Thanks for all you do for the love of Trucking 🙏❤️🦘

[@cecilwilson5442]

Great to see that you're enjoying your job and older trucks have plenty of life left in them,, hopefully when we get back to something resembling normal,, truck shows and other stuff,, something to look forward to ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland great video

[@rohannanayakkara9367]

Hey Stavros, I just want say hey and I am from Sri Lanka

[@ApexPredatorWithSungGlasses]

That was quite the tour with your other trucks and trailers. Maybe we'll get a tour of the Yard next time. 🙂

[@panagiotis1519]

Love ya Stavros!

[@bennoben1653]

Great video 👍thanks for sharing

[@DecalCentralUK]

Morning Stavros, happy trucking dude!

[@alimalim678]

Great Job

[@valentinoberchu7532]

Hi Stavros can you please make a video of Freightliner argosy 620 cause it's just my favorite truck

[@bennyguatavaaon55]

Good work.

[@ronanhennessy2683]

Hi Stavros good vid is it only for tractor units or can it be used for rigids

[@deanmounsey6333]

Does altering the engine management system not damage the ECU like I have heard with people chipping Scania engines has caused damage

[@tjroelsma]

This looks like a set that's simular to a Power Commander as used on bikes. It's a piggyback system that changes nothing on the ECU, just changes the data from the sensors somewhat to trick the ECU into believing the circumstances are different from what they actually are, so it alters things like fuel injection, turbo pressure/wastegate actuation and/or airintake.

[@antonpandoursky9790]

The austrian Steinbauer does the same plug in injectors timing tune up🙂

[@vanontherun2843]

Great Tech video Stavros, I look forward to finding out how effective it has been in a future video 👍.

[@Taaviots]

Most common problem is that injectors needs to be serviced especially when the truck have long mileage. After long time injectors worn out and fuel economy is going down also.

[@isaacphehellomatsaneng7996]

Is there a VTC PACK for VOLVO FH V4

[@hamzaally4230]

Is it for V8 only or any

[@scaniakid85]

Any follow up on this?

[@David_Crayford]

Thank you for another interesting video. I suppose Scania et al don't do this "overclocking" themselves because they are in the business of mass production of a standard product. I wonder if there are any downsides such as lower reliability, shorter engine life? Or maybe the reverse is true! Hope designers get to hear your feedback on all the flaws you pick up.

[@SerenaBluee]

You're right about Scania leaving power and economy on the table in order to keep reliability and engine life at a maximum. Making any substantial increase in power will almost always reduce engine life and potentially reliability (you can't change the laws of physics), although how much can be difficult to say. With only a remap or 'tune' you're not increasing power by reducing restriction or making other physical changes, so it's probably increasing the boost level and fuelling which will spin the turbocharger faster and cause that to wear out slightly sooner, as well as increased wear on engine bearings and other components as a result of the higher cylinder pressures and loads within the engine, as well as increased heat for the oil and coolant systems to deal with. Big increases to the factory boost pressure setting can also make the turbocharger less efficient if it's operating out of its intended speed range. On a car where the actual time at high engine loads is minimal, I'd almost always use a "stage 1" (no physical change) remap, especially on a turbocharged car to get the most from the factory setup. But on a truck where they are frequently operated at medium to high engine loads for long periods, I'd probably keep it as Scania intended to maximise reliability.

[@David_Crayford]

@@SerenaBluee Thanks for the detailed reply. 👍 I know there are warranty and statistical reasons why any manufacturer will want to keep things vanilla. Engineering best practice is to design in some margin for error to protect against defects, abuse or extreme conditions.

[@skylinefever]

That, plus to handle more power, the engine might have to be made out of more expensive stuff.

[@freefiregamer1423]

Good job sir

[@dtrmlr]

Hi Stavros, what a very entertaining video! I‘m still laughing! „An engine, that runs more economically and achieves more power at the same time, is definitely not possible!“ This is a very lucrative business, nothing else! You pay big money for a big fairy tale! All electronic changes in the system, are stored in the control unit! Scania (and everyone else too) deny any warranty at the entire vehicle!

[@gewoontimm]

I noticed the problem with new gen aswell when i got it through a truckwash.. when i opened the door the switches where always wet.. thx for the fix

[@Arafaer]

Funny twist on things in this one. Hey guys this is how you mount the unit and connect it. Then suddenly "hey guys this is a completely different truck lets take a look :P " Love the vids but this was a but funny in a way.

[@noorali6859]

Interesting... Looking forward to seeing how the VTC chip works out on the truck. Thumbs up Stavros and cheers.

[@williammartin1642]

Good video Stavros,I say that unit cost a few bob?

[@ciaransherry6021]

There's no point in disrespecting the technology which gives us electro-propulsion, it will of necessity find it's way into HGVs. Out of the 40L/100km energy consumption, 30 litres is wasted as heat.

[@robertbrand9246]

Why not get the power button turned off so it can only b in eco mode as few fleets have it set like that all times 👌👌👌

[@idontknow2rhhfhf]

NO, ITS terrible not being able high RPM a it like going uphill

[@Jellan]

@@idontknow2rhhfhf Don’t need more than 1700rpm in trucks like this, any more and you’re just making noise and wasting diesel.

[@bertilsonadam]

@@Jellan I had one r560 before and that was one thirsty truck and no torque or horsepower under 1600 rpm. the ng580 is much more powerful in low rpm AND alot cheaper on the fuel

[@nevango0690]

Are you going to do a video on the new DAF truck when it is available

[@hoebeke4205]

And new Volvo and new Renault.

[@Kryten428]

The only true way to test the power box itself is to try and hide the fact you have installed it from the driver. If the driver knows about it he may, even subconsciously, alter his driving habits and give you a false result.

[@churchtm6539]

i need SPEED and good economy.... those available? im at the urge of of trying to get an R770

[@geennaam1201]

i may be wrong but i usaly don't trust those boxes that just promise more power with lower fuel consumption i feel like it's just leaning out the engine witch don't sound good to me for an endurance engine

[@tapiwarwizi8461]

Lean translates to hot and these trucks dont get much air at their speeds this is a big NO

[@mihai-danielmagura6384]

Yes, change the engine to an inline 6 :)))

[@bryanpeeters9534]

Stavros have you seen the new daf xg

[@RaulTG1982]

Que bonito ese Scania R560, tengo uno de maqueta a medio construir, por falta de detalles en el motor!!!

[@davidfitzpatrick7466]

Has there been an update?

[@wjk1144]

Fuel consumption is in your right foot. Don't push the pedal down as far as you can. It's to do with the driver, not the truck.

[@Freightlinerbob]

Hello from Canada. How many liters in the gallon you’re using? 4.54 L or 3.78 L?

[@almac414]

It'll be metric gallons so 4.54l.

[@danutgerebenes6228]

De unde pot sa intru si eu în posesie?am o Scania r520 di 2014 consumă 39% mă distruge consumu ăsta.

[@NormalKatastrof]

Crappy mpg... Might be something wrong. R500 keeps fuel usage under 30l/100km even with cracked exhaust manifold 😀😀 (with 8-24t loads and frigotrailer)

[@domymerinyo8165]

❤ 👍how much it would cost and to order it please

[@footcrab]

6.2!!? I have a 06 r500 and it's doing 8.85

[@rytiskurcinskas7179]

a proper remap on a dyno with value tuning is the way to go, these tuning boxes hardly do anything and when they do they just increase the rail pressure which in turn will over time damage fuel system or some other component/s

[@hairezwan]

Malaysia hadir!!!

[@antonpandoursky9790]

My guess is just that the other driver drives faster and that's about it😁In US doing 50mph is only in construction zones and through cities

[@idontknow2rhhfhf]

Is this a sponsored video?

[@davidcairns9263]

ya know ya trailers fella worked them an hate them

[@oarabilemokgothu4439]

Stavros i want to work for your company

[@juliogonzo2718]

I knew a guy who had the same thing happen with something flipping up and puncturing the fuel tank. He ended up with an at fault accident in his history because of it he told me.

[@sontagfamily5611]

Or in the US, the driver's coffee thermos crashing into the windshield when the cab breaks over.

[@davidbsearle]

The best modification you could make would be to remove that Leeds United sticker from the windscreen.

[@hoost3056]

6.52 mpg starting on euro diesel prices? Ouch.....so sorry. In the US, that's slightly above average.

[@kheriwalafilms1840]

Sir i am also scania bus driver in india 🙏

[@SaqibAli-td3zt]

hello

[@SaqibAli-td3zt]

hi

[@6184777]

It's down to the driver

[@saidiismail4145]

Malaysia hadir

[@zuberhamad7216]

💪💪

[@geoffbell166]

I used to put about 800litres a trip in these truck was double shifting 24/7 ,they were never going to be economical,if you making horsepower you going to pay for it,tits and wheels cost you money!

[@irishjamieplays463]

Bunratty castle?? Really! We watch for the the trucks there’s plenty of Instagram accounts doing the trip advisor type reviews

[@Strutter1998]

This seems rather scetchy to manipulate (from what I understand) CAN traffic. Probably worse emissions due to this. Where does the other end go?

[@truckingjamaicans5045]

Are scania v8s reliable ?

[@garethifan1034]

Is the Pope Catholic??

[@sunilthalappillil5811]

Hi..

[@andyfletcher7535]

. Take it to scania and get power mode disabled. All the driver gonna do now is use extra power all time .

[@timnorman2777]

Stavros. Get yourself a better driver..

[@Swedishchef11]

You should go with driver training and proper maintenance instead of modifying the truck. Do you seriously think that the millions spent on RnD for fuel efficiency and most energy can be beaten by a piggy-back system?

[@Swedishchef11]

Did you even get the truck matched to your logistics needs? The V8 is mostly a image thing, not the most efficient

[@christydoyle9912]

🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@martinpoulsen6564]

Seriously?!? Is it really possible to put them together the wrong way? Upside down? Any serious automotive supplier within the last several decades, know to put splines offset from center, on the plastic plug, so it's only possible to connect it the way it was meant to be! Unless of course something is made to function in reverse.

[@zuberhamad7216]

😅😅😅

[@SKBKER]

Electric will wipe out the cmbustion engine and for the better . Faster acceleration, quiet and no stink

[@mattoates7636]

Adjust the drivers earnings to fuel consumption. It's ridiculous giving him more power to try and improve fuel, drop his wages until mpg goes up,or introduce a fuel bonus

[@madars1997]

get a load of this guy ^

[@juliogonzo2718]

@@madars1997 haha someone drops my wages to try and augment my behavior not going to end well. He should have just said give the guy a bonus if he meets targets.

[@madars1997]

@@juliogonzo2718 Facts. Bonus $$$ for low fuel consumption is a good idea.

[@juliogonzo2718]

@@nigelleahy406 some pompous office dwellers feel we should be paying them for the privilege of driving the truck. It's easy to spot what companies these are, you can sometimes see their trucks attempting to excavate the ditch

[@hellrot8889]

V8 is overrated