Good video. Tks. Maybe could you just use STP for a tackifire??
@GruntBurger2 ай бұрын
They do make bar oil, so you're probably onto something.
@wavekube4343 Жыл бұрын
Another point to consider is that even if the bar did not last as long with used oil, for what you spend on only a few gallons of bar oil you could buy a new bar.
@richardkut3976 Жыл бұрын
It works great, can't get used oil smell out of cloths.
@deddie4645 Жыл бұрын
40 years ago as a boy, 15 years old working in a gas station in the Midwest. We are always delivering 55 gallon drums hydraulic oil. Diesel oil Motor oil to the farmers.... And we're always picking up the mostly empty cordrums with maybe 3-4-5 gallons oil in them. Just weekly saying maybe deliver in 25-55 gallon drums and pick it up 25-55 gallon drum Cores,,,,, Anyway, they told us the procedure for these cores was to drain out the oil at the facility. And all this oil would be mixed. Hydraulic oil engine oil transmissional oil any and all of it would just be mixed and a thickener tack agent would be added......... And that's how BAR OIL was made...... Anyway, you gave me great idea. And I'll start saving my automatic transmission oil using my chainsaws.
@waynegretzky8464 Жыл бұрын
Careful,modern ATF has detergents that WILL eat through you seals. Bar resivoire is not a fun j0b. Start looking for a new saw now!
@gannonolson6294 Жыл бұрын
Something I've found with using older slow revving saws, the oil/tackifier used doesn't really matter much as the chain isn't slinging it off nearly as bad as the little modern rippers that make their power at twice the revs. Get some old 80-100cc saw for a fraction of the price as the latest greatest, use semi-chisel .404, and cut with a sharp chain for the whole day without needing to sharpen. It's amazing how some of the best methods have been lost to marketing in the last 30 years. Faster, lighter, smaller.. none of that matters if your cutting firewood.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Torque vs RPM. I agree with you on a lot of points. One thing that has improved I feel is the anti- vibration aspect of the new saws. My Pioneer will pull through wood all day long no problem if I could hold onto it that long!
@tractordan933 Жыл бұрын
I have used food grade vegetable oil purchased by the gallon at Sam's club. You can add it to bar oil or run it straight, works well for me.
@Seriouslydave Жыл бұрын
Don't let it sit though that stuff sets like glue over winter.
@conmanumber1 Жыл бұрын
That stuff sticks like hell and very hard to clean off. Its nasty on clothing too.
@dingznthingz Жыл бұрын
My gasoline powered engines all use synthetic motor oil. When I change the oil, I reuse the engine oil as chainsaw bar oil. I've never had any problems yet and I have been doing it for many years.
@Santaheckler Жыл бұрын
You can’t stop the people…we always find a way. Good job sir!
@joandodds7626 Жыл бұрын
Awesome...I have to change my hydrostatic transmission on my Kubota... you just saved me a case of beer ! Cheers 🍻‼️🇨🇦
@johnwalters755 Жыл бұрын
I think what your doing is great always in for getting double duty out of something! My father logged and I can't ever remember him using bar oil, used motor oil from anything. If oil comes from a motor after 3000 miles it still has lubrication values. As for contaminated there's plenty in tree bark and sawdust. I own 3 chainsaws and I don't use them very often so I use bar oil.
@starleyshelton2245 Жыл бұрын
I first used a chainsaw over 50 years ago. I didn't even realize they made bar oil for many years. Motor oil was what I learned as a norm.
@ragingbull1267 Жыл бұрын
I use the motor oil from my truck oil changes as well as regular 10W-40 motor oil with STP added to cut the slinging down. Been doing it for years and my bar and chain have held up well . I dropped and cut nearly an acre of trees the past 2 years on the same bar/chain with no issues or excessive wear and getting ready to cut some more dead standing and felled trees through this winter. I cant see spending $10 on a quart of bar oil when motor oil is $2.50 a quart
@donaldhofman5257 Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@lancehenthorn17 Жыл бұрын
Where are you finding motor oil for $2.50 a QT. A Gallon of bar oil is about $10-14 where I'm from in Alabama. JS!
@ragingbull1267 Жыл бұрын
@@lancehenthorn17 walmart and $1.25 at the Dollar store.
@kenberscheit94810 ай бұрын
where do you find motor oil for 2.50/qt????
@christmysavior7 ай бұрын
@@kenberscheit948 Try the dollar stores. I use old engine oil mixed with STP. No problems here in Ozarks.
@boomupengineering Жыл бұрын
Looks like a reasonable thing to do to make use of used tractor fluid. Only hard part is finding the tackifier.
@leebdj1949 Жыл бұрын
Something that is sticky like that is Lucas oil. Some might be more than others, like transmission additive, or gear oil additive. I know the transmission stop leak is crazy sticky.
@vansicklejerry Жыл бұрын
Ya I googled that stuff and didnt have any luck finding it. Anyone else find a good tackifier yo use? I wonder if using tackifier in used filter motor oil or vegetable oil would be good ad well.
@boomupengineering Жыл бұрын
@@vansicklejerry I suspect one would have to call an oil distributor and hope they would sell to the public. I couldn't find anything online either. So, a decent idea but it just isn't feasible.
@leebdj1949 Жыл бұрын
Lucas is heavy oil, with polymer tackifier. You fellas must’ve skipped right by my comment. You can buy it anywhere. Canadian Tire has small to large maybe 3 or 4 litre jugs.
@craftsmanbyheart Жыл бұрын
@@leebdj1949I love the video. It has me hoping I can find tackifier cheap.. I'm gonna watch for it at auctions, estate sales, etc... at renovating or moving businesses also.. I can find that Lucas product too! In Minnesota... And that is exactly the product I thought of when he demonstrated the old (10yrs old) commercial tackifier product he is using. I think STP is a fair match to his tackifier. And I find it available at many stores. Comes in approximately an 8oz. blue plastic bottle. I don't mix my own Bar and Chain oils yet..., but I buy some various bar and chains oils for my saws and I specifically buy the summer blend type (because it is thicker in the bottle) bar and chain oils when I'm stocking up supplies to make my own vehicle rust-proofing treatment. I also buy STP, and WD40 (reason not explained) ... to mix into the store bought summer type Bar and chain oils just to thicken it and help it stay on the vehicle under sides, chassis, inner hidden spaces, and seams after it has been applied as a rustproofing. I add 1 bottle STP to 1 gallon of summer type bar and chain and about 3-4 oz of WD40. mix and heat to about 200-250 deg. F. It has to be prewarmed to allow it to be applied to the vehicle (it is super thick at less than 90 deg F.) It may not work well in a chainsaw unless it's extreme summer hot weather during use. However, Works better than ANY OTHER RUSTPROOFING I'VE FOUND! (based on (9yrs) real life all year around Minnesota testing as of now.)
@treeguyable Жыл бұрын
All bar oil slings off the tip of the bar, somewhat, ( more in the summer, obviously) that is how you check to see if you are oiling. Or You can check by pulling the chain away from the bar, and looking at the drive links, whilst it is not running.
@paulfay357 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I can't tell that there is any significant difference in the wear on my chains and bars regardless of what oil I use. I do notice a significant improvement in wear when I keep my chains razor sharp. Of course cutting firewood here in central Missouri is nowhere near as serious of a proposition as cutting in Canada, I just don't need as much.
@treeguyable Жыл бұрын
Tried used engine oil for a while in my saws, ( run like 6-8 saws daily, yr round.) It did pretty good, just messy looking all the time.
@philliphall519811 ай бұрын
Yea but I used parts washer after each day and cleaned it No big deal 😊
@treeguyable11 ай бұрын
@@philliphall5198 Dang , seemed like I was always busy fixing broke down old equipment, wish I had the time for the washing thing.
@lesliewood3616 Жыл бұрын
About 16 years ago bought a new I saw the price of oil it jumped a buck so I had extra money and bought eight cases then 3 gallons each came back 2 weeks later bought six more winter oil than summer still have 12 cases of it at 3 bucks a gallon I'm 62 years old I don't think I'll run out😅😅😅 like the idea of what you're doing thank you
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
You are sitting on a whole lot of money with all that oil. Planning ahead pays off in more ways than one. Thanks for watching.
@royreddick2934 Жыл бұрын
I have not been able to find that brand of tacifier. I have looked for that lubriko tacifier. Where can I purchase a gallon of it
@villagelightsmith4375 Жыл бұрын
Non-detergent, to keep from softening your seals. Something sticky (tackifier, STP, etc). Lubricating oil ... not hydraulic fluid. Centrifuge and/or Franz (toilet paper filter) clean engine oil, after the additives are burned out of it. Eye of newt and toe of frog works well, too.
@bluethunder1951 Жыл бұрын
I went to the Sthil dealer last week to buy a new bar for my MS391 the tip seized up due to lack of oiling, mainly my fault for not doing enough cleaning on the bar and using heavy weight bar oil in hot weather. The dealer told me to set the oiler to maximum and use lighter weight oil, funny thing is I wanted to buy a jug of winter weight “Sthil oil” but they didn’t have any, the sales representative told me nobody is buying it because it’s to expensive, they now sell a no name cheaper oil. I’m going to try your mixture, thanks for doing the video.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Sorry to hear about the bar, those are pretty pricey as well. Glad the video helped out, we are all in this together!
@swamper2fly Жыл бұрын
STP will make a sticky emulsion also and cheaper.
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
Get some magnets and set up a system to pour hyd oil slowly on the magnets and pull out the metal, I heat it up and add a little Lukas hub oil in 6 gallon steel tank and use HD honing drill and mix it 20 minutes Works great for me
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting idea about the magnet. I’ve never thought that there might be metal in the oil but that makes sense. During the Christmas break I’ll be changing the fluid in the tractor transmission again and have a fresh 42 litre supply of oil. Happy to have it considering the current price of bar oil. Thanks for the comment.
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
@@buildingthebruce yes Sir I work at a major frac company as shop supervisor for 45 years and I was get a lot of hyd oil and we filter it in to storage tanks for recycling but if major pump or motor failure it went in waste tanks which company paid by the gallon to remove. So we gave it away I was picky and that’s why I used the magnets and I have waste oil heater in my personal shop I’m retired with plenty of waste hyd oil
@robertdinicola9225 Жыл бұрын
Stp or lucas mixed with any 40wt or higher works great.
@treeguyable Жыл бұрын
Tried peanut oil ( was cheaper than bar oil. ) for about a yr. Running saws daily in the tree business. It did pretty good, but, gums up, around the outside of the saw, plus, way before lunch time, it smelled too good. Luckily, I can just pass my expenses on to the customer.
@stevenhatfield88975 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I use stihl bar oil and it keeps going up in price. Has anyone found the tackifier he is using? I cut about 30 cords of wood a year and trying to cut cost with out sacrificing performance. I have unlimited hydraulic oil and used engine oil. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
@ians14643 ай бұрын
Been professionally chainsaw cutting for over 14 years. The dark color in dirty motor oil is going to pass right through the bar oiling system obviously not chunky. Look how much debris gets in the chain from one cut on a piece of wood. I use every kind of leftover oil I have and mix them hydraulic transmission deep fried peanut oil motor oil and have only gone through a handful of bars maybe 10. On all sizes and sorts of saws pole saws big small hand saws. I do notice this with a thin quarter inch thickness of bar they do get worn down fairly quick but I use them on every job. I think that's due more to the fact that they're thinner. I haven't bought bar oil in over 14 years.
@luimackjohnson302 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this informative video. Please increase the sensitivity of the microphone to increase the audio levels. Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea.
@ianedwards8553 Жыл бұрын
Lucas has a fortifier for hydraulic oil. Perhaps mixing base TDH oil with this Lucas would result in a more readily available recipe.. Thoughts?
@rogerjustice8835 Жыл бұрын
I basically do the same thing only I use Lucas, high tach, or motor honey. Just mix 1 quart to 2 or 3 gallons of the waste oil of your choice.
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
I also have 45 gallons of 90 w gear oil that I’ve been using in my cheap saws like poulan and the bars last just as long with this use oil Just magnet it and done ✅
@margelatutrandafirulgalben3156 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean magnet it?
@adambatchelder4121 Жыл бұрын
I've been using my drain oil from my cars , trucks , and motorcycle s as bar oil for years with no problems. I do change it very often so its hardly dirty. Its thinner than bar oil but that doesn't seam to matter
@juhajuntunen7866 Жыл бұрын
Just for curiosity, I check how much bar oil cost in my country (in EU, heavy taxes), its cheapest 22Eur per 10 liter but average is near 30Eur. But it was only ten years ago it was 12Eur! Yikes!
@lorinkramer5805 Жыл бұрын
How many ounces, I’m in the US, is your blue container? I get adding 2 oz to-how much transmission oil? I like to be consistent. Thanks!
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
I think that is about 3/4 of a gallon. It’s a cheapie from the dollar store and doesn’t have any measurements on it. You can always tailor it to the cutting season. As long as you get the stringiness between your thumb and index finger when you check the tackiness you’re on the right track.
@DrJuan-ev8lu Жыл бұрын
You can dilute bar oil with used motor oil or used transmission oil to cut cost. Of course STP or similar can be added to used oils too. I add a shot of graphite spray lubricant to provide some dry lube protection in case the chain runs dry from clogged oil passage in the bar. It also helps to shoot the bar and chain with a little spray on graphite dry lube when mounting it.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
All good ideas. Thanks for commenting. Please consider subscribing to the channel for future videos that you may find interesting.
@earlzathome Жыл бұрын
Great tip! I started mixing bar oil and UDT about 60/40 during covid when they wanted $20/jug at TSC/Peavey, but if i can find some tackifier this is even cheaper! And yes, UDT looks identical coming out as it does going in....
@donaldhofman5257 Жыл бұрын
I use STP oil treatment for a tacifier with used ATF for my bar oil! I'm a retired mechanic and get it for free!
@earlzathome Жыл бұрын
Great info Donald thanks!
@kirtadams439 Жыл бұрын
In the winter, I use used motor oil to cut summer bar and chain. Seems to work fine.
@jeanlefebvre64589 ай бұрын
Can I use gear oil 80-90 I can’t find tackifier
@jeffcameron7853 Жыл бұрын
I live in New Zealand, I did the dollar conversion from NZD to CAD and I pay $33.26 per 4 litres of Castrol Bar and chain oil. I have a friend who is an Agricultural Contractor making hay and silage. He runs 15 Large John Deere tractors and does his own servicing. I'm sure I can get some trans fluid for free, I just need the tackifier. I have researched the local suppliers of similar tackifier products and am waiting for replies. I will post the results when I get the info. If this works for me it will be a massive game changer! I runs 4 Stihl chainsaws and go through about 16 litres of bar oil per year so Thanks!
@conmanumber1 Жыл бұрын
Hi from Oamaru Sth island New Zealand. Do you remember the Morays gear oil stabiliser display gadget on rural gas stations?. I wonder if a bottle or two dumped into 30 litres will thicken it?.
@garvdarb Жыл бұрын
Used motor oil is free! Been using it for years
@spencerh2860 Жыл бұрын
It’s so bad for you and the environment though 😫
@roseymalino9855 Жыл бұрын
traditional oil or synthetic? Substantial difference in contaminants.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, but personally I don’t think I would want to do that. With the price and value of my chainsaws I really can’t see all the contaminants being healthy for the oil pump. My hydraulic oil is almost the same colour after 400 hours as when it was new, used motor oil after an oil change, not so much. And I have so much used hydraulic oil from the tractor I wish I could give some of it away 😂. Thanks for watching.
@acajutla Жыл бұрын
It's too thin and non-sticky, will rapidly centrifuge away at the bar tip
@ljalpena3552 Жыл бұрын
I am 80 yrs old and been using used oil for 60 yrs.
@rufusrunsgsp4610 Жыл бұрын
Question oil viscosity. Bar oil is heavy, transmission oil, or as it's called " fluid" is totally different. I'm not sure about Tackifier.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Bar oil generally comes in two weights, summer(heavy), winter(light), so that it will flow through the saws oil pump more efficiently depending on ambient air temperature. Tackifier is extremely thick and stringy and does make thin hydraulic oil heavier and much tackier so it doesn’t sling off the tip of the bar. The amount of tackifier can be adjusted depending on what used base oil you are using and the season you are cutting in. Thanks for watching and please consider subscribing to help support the channel.
@russellrains487711 ай бұрын
Red Transmission fluid is also great to add to your Bar & Chain oil because it has excellent friction modifiers.
@ronsilva516 Жыл бұрын
I like your idea there. Really do I go trough bar oil like candy inert the product that Lucas makes probably the same thing real tacky, sticky stuff. You can get an auto parts store or that even old STP. Because it like thick as honey ,as for winter and summer blind I haven’t been Abel to find it in a yr or 2 I have been using Husky brand because it doesn’t get my chain hot bit iam going to try it 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎
@job38four1014 күн бұрын
I been using used tractor trans oil for years, that Tackifier must be a Canadian product cause I cant fid in the US. The last time I bought bar oil it was $5.00/gal at Walmart.........
@garyalford9394 Жыл бұрын
Try some Lucas oil stabalizer it is pretty tacky !!
@sambernardo Жыл бұрын
l have been using canola oil in 4 of my saws for years with no issues chainsaw carver
@WorshipTheSavior Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea! I've always wondered why it's so expensive... I have to pay $25-$30 for 4 liters!!! I found the tackifier, it's now called Lubrizol 5907A Tackifier.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
That’s great. I’m glad it will help you out and thanks for sharing the name of the tackifier.
@bobhanke6401 Жыл бұрын
Where did you find the Lubrizol 5907A Tackifier? I've been looking and can't find it anywhere.
@WorshipTheSavior Жыл бұрын
@@bobhanke6401 I don't know where to buy it actually, I just found that the name was changed when searching the internet. I also would like to know where to buy it 😮
@MegaBlastMojo Жыл бұрын
I use 1 gallon used universal tractor transmission oil mixed with 1 bottle of STP oil treatment as a tackifier.
@Rick-cb9zt Жыл бұрын
It is an actual chemical co under that name. Have used it for yrs.@@bobhanke6401
@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын
The price is getting extremely expensive now and I’m trying to figure out how to cut the cost 😊 Thank you for information and advice
@garyalford9394 Жыл бұрын
Thank Biden !!
@Gods-Elect Жыл бұрын
I mix a little bit of bar oil with used oil from my oil changes seems to work.
@duanekabanuk3974 Жыл бұрын
I never see much wear on my rails the sprocket at the end wears first. I use Super Tech, Bar S, or whatever generic bar oil I find at the farm store. In the winter I mix the cheap bar oil with 10W oil Harvest King or whatever brand from the farm store.
@redstagriding295 Жыл бұрын
I've been using a mixture of used oil mixed with new 80/90 weight gear oil . Every time I change gear oil in diffs there leftover in one of the containers which just accumulates on my shelves.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
That sounds like it would work pretty well also. How is the viscosity in the winter months? Do you need to adjust the ratio to get thinner oil? One thing I hate about differential fluid is the smell. My 4wheeler is full time locked and the truck is limited slip and that oil stinks.
@redstagriding295 Жыл бұрын
Yes it does smell but it is sticky enough to work , I still use a john deere saw I bought new in 83 and I started using this mix about 15 yrs ago. Of course I dont cut wood for a living but I've got property and cut down about 10 trees a yr due to beetle kill. Haven't ever replaced the bar so I'm good with dealing with the smell
@Lured-in Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to amortize in the cost of your wife’s new blender with the cost of your bar oil. LOL Great video, I really like how you are reusing the oil.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Lol. Ya she wasn’t overly impressed, but she still hasn’t asked for a new one. Thanks for watching.
@emilee172 Жыл бұрын
wonder if STP oil treatment would be a good substitute as its a 'tackifier' as well and you dont need a lot so a can of STP and couple quarts of UDT trans oil
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. In the upcoming days I’m hoping to put a video together comparing STP and the commercial tackifier. Stay tuned and if you would like to support the channel please consider subscribing. Happy holidays.
@PhilipStark-v3k Жыл бұрын
Any idea where we can find a tackiier today in Florida usa? or alternatives? Thanks so much
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Several people have said that STP oil treatment works as well. It’s very thick and tacky and would probably give you the same result as the commercial tackifier that I use. I’m going to be posting a video where I compare different tackifiers to see if there’s any difference in performance. Thanks for watching and consider subscribing to help support the channel.
@PhilipStark-v3k Жыл бұрын
looking forward to more videos thankyou@@buildingthebruce
@fredbloggs7345 Жыл бұрын
I've been using cooking oil for years. If you're using chainsaw every day, it's okay. But it clogs up a little if not used very regularly. cost £1.50. That is on my old 08s stihl chainsaw and on my old husky 61 chainsaw
@Seriouslydave Жыл бұрын
I have to use a paintbrush and gas just to free mine up if it sits too long
@GregoryZalaskus-c5m3 ай бұрын
Can't find Lubriko tackifier anywhere in the web.
@buildingthebruce3 ай бұрын
@@GregoryZalaskus-c5m It may be something that you have to source locally. Try oil supplier, oil blenders, undercoating supply. If all else fails STP oil additive will work as a tackifier.
@christmysavior7 ай бұрын
Good news, Tractor Sply has gallon bar oil, add 1 qt STP, won't sling off the chain.
@mrfrogbot2 ай бұрын
I buy the cheapest 5 gallon bucket of 30wt hydraulic oil i can find, and add one gallon of Lucas oil stabilizer in it. I’ve been running that as my bar oil for years.
@conmanumber1 Жыл бұрын
The sticker / thickening agent packages can be supplied by additive suppliers to make into properties of bar oil.
@matthijsverweijmeren61149 ай бұрын
I think in your case its a smart solution with the tackafier. If your waste oil is of poor quality perhaps add some metal cutting oil to it improve the wear resistance properties. Vegetable oil is also a good option if you use your chainsaw often. Never leave it in/on for storage as it varnishes up your parts exposed to air😂😢.
@toddgeorge1569 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a website where you buy that lubriko from??
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
In southern Ontario, Commercial Oil Company is the supplier that I found it at.
@MikeMiller-v8p Жыл бұрын
In a very cold climate will this mix viscosity stay thin enough to get through the reservoir and pump my supertec walmart bar oil does better than my Husqvarna bar oil
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Yes. Not a problem. The hydraulic oil is very thin and you can add as much tackifier as you like. More tackifier will decrease the viscosity and vise-versa.
@ferengiprofiteer9145 Жыл бұрын
I use my old turkey frying oil. Oil's oil.
@jeanlefebvre64589 ай бұрын
I cant find tackifier in Ottawa can I use gear oil #80
@buildingthebruce9 ай бұрын
Not as a tackifier. That’s a lubricant. Go to Canadian Tire and buy STP oil additive. It’s as close as you are going to get to tackifier. Add it to the base used oil that you are using and you should be fine.
@Montbound1 Жыл бұрын
I believe the blender may have broken down the chemical composition of the blended liquid but also aerated it introducing air in to the mixture and I don’t know whether it would settle out of the mixture if you let it sit for a period of time
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct. When I bought the tackifier the sales guy was using the word “ blending” when we were discussing what I had in mind, so that’s why I used the wife’s blender for my first attempt. I don’t know the science but the tackifier is “long strand molecules” as I’ve been told and I think the blender chopped those up. There was no stringyness to the oil when I pinched it between my fingers, unlike regular bar oil. But when I switched to the paint mixer and cordless drill the result was great. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feedback.
@DaveyBlue32 Жыл бұрын
The difference between a incredibly high rpm type knife and the relatively low rpm’s of a drill is that difference between the blend processes and that your paddle is several times or it’s a much larger size so you aren’t cutting the structure down and the lower rpm’s not aerating the solution and removing it’s stringy characteristics like small blender knife would…
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Yes I think you are correct. The viscosity was thicker but the tackiness of the fluid was gone. And it was very aerated with the blending, which, as mentioned may have settled out but I believe I had destroyed the tackifier on that attempt. I really like the comment someone made about Lucus Oil Stabilizer Additive. I remember using that in a fairly worn out Chevy Nova 350 engine. If tackifier was unavailable I think I would give that a try. Thanks for watching. I appreciate your insight.
@jerryclark5725 Жыл бұрын
The same kind of idea: A Depression Era man once told me to filter drain oil and mix in STP for bar oil. I haven't seen STP in many years. At one time in a pinch, I put STP in a gear box, and that gear box is still spinning today.
@ragingbull1267 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I do.... All my used oil as well as new 10w40 gets stp and used.
@ronledbetter4993 Жыл бұрын
Any oil new or used if it is slick and gets between the chain and the bar will work. Wear is caused more by a dull chain. If you sharpen the chain after every few cuts keeping it sharp the engine doesn't have to work as hard and the bar and chain are cooler because you aren't pushing down trying to make it cut. If you don't keep the chain sharp the best most expensive oil won't keep them from wearing.
@raymondrich6720 Жыл бұрын
Ron is correct
@starleyshelton2245 Жыл бұрын
It is going to get dirty with sawdust regardless of what oil you use. So a good lubricant is all you need. With synthetics the lubrication of motor oil should be even better.
@conmanumber1 Жыл бұрын
Best to warm tackifier and oil up so it's easy to blend in.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
That’s a good idea. Next time I do some mixing I’ll bring everything into the house for a few hours first. Thanks for commenting and please consider subscribing to the channel for future videos you may find interesting.
@hiscifi2986 Жыл бұрын
In UK we have a company Brad-Chem producing Flowtac 2000, but I think they only sell in bulk (45 gal drums.). My last 5 gal drum of chain oil was very lacking in tackyness, so I might try another supplier next time.
@tonydiesel3444 Жыл бұрын
It's called a viscosity improver
@jdoboy6835 Жыл бұрын
Just add 85-140. Same deal. Car Differential or heavy equipment gear oils,,, USED. It will do the same thing. I'll add it to USED tranny & or car engine oils. 'Recycle'. Been using it for 20 + years. Still using the Same bar. Make sure your bar oil is thin enough to actually spray off the end of your bar at high RPM.
@TonyStark-e3p Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where to purchase Lubrizol tackifier?
@philliphall519811 ай бұрын
I mix 2 gallons of used motor oil with one gallon of TSC bar oil Works great for me 😊😊😊
@BM-wi9kt Жыл бұрын
Wonder if the Lucas's oil or moreys would be similar?
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
I’ve had quite a few comments about Lucus. It would be worth a try. Thanks for watching.
@SixOFord6 ай бұрын
I bet my wifes kitchenaid mixer would be the ticket for the blending process.
@buildingthebruce6 ай бұрын
@@SixOFord Well, from experience a blender definitely won’t work but I sure wouldn’t recommend “borrowing” the wife’s mixer. Happy wife = happy life and maybe a new chainsaw with all the money you saved. At least that’s my story. lol.
@randyvilleneuve490714 күн бұрын
I recently bought 2 gallons of Harvest King Bar & Chain Oil for $8.89 a gallon and according to reviews its the best chain oil vs the expensive name brands so that is another option.
@buildingthebruce14 күн бұрын
@@randyvilleneuve4907 That’s a good price for sure. Maybe the worst of the price gouging is over. I haven’t priced any of the big companies oil in awhile.
@AndTheCorrectAnswerIs Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that a lot of the aftermarket oil additives must just be tackifier or something similar. Most are the consistency of sticky thick honey and are made to mix in with 4-5 quarts of motor oil. Might be worth a try in used motor oil.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. I recently picked up a bottle of STP oil additive to do a comparison video between that and the commercial tackifier that I use. Should prove interesting.
@jeanlefebvre645810 ай бұрын
Where can I buy tackifier
@buildingthebruce10 ай бұрын
Try an oil blending company. I use Commercial Oil in Hamilton.
@jeanlefebvre645810 ай бұрын
@@buildingthebruce thanks il let you
@Yeakerr Жыл бұрын
I go to a lot of rummage sales you would not believe how often I find gallon jugs of chainsaw oil for a dollar .
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
That’s like finding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow! If prices keep going up we will be tracking the daily price of a gallon of bar oil the same way a barrel of oil gets reported ! Sad stuff.
@Yeakerr Жыл бұрын
@@buildingthebruce oil is going down with gas prices
@markfair7648 Жыл бұрын
Lukus oil stabilizer to add tackness to oil.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned that as well. I think it’s a great idea. Thanks for watching.
@kensmith8997 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good idea, but try finding "tackifier" for sale, almost impossible
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
A couple of people have commented that Lucus Oil Stabilizer has similar properties as tackifier. Thanks for watching and please consider subscribing to support the channel.
@Idahoprepper71 Жыл бұрын
I wish I would have seen this video a day sooner. I just replaced the transmission fluid in my John Deere and took it to the recycling
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
So close! But at least you know what to do with it next time. Thanks for watching.
@craigunderwood43539 ай бұрын
Question, you think $15 is too expensive ? Look at a Stihl product, $38 for one gallon of bar oil, TSC has bar oil for $12.99 per gallon!
@treeguyable Жыл бұрын
Never seen a shop, and work bench, that clean. And... no pegboard on the walls. Guess things are different up there.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Only takes 30 seconds to clean my bench before making a video and since it’s a weld shop all the tools go into the toolbox and cabinets to keep the grinding dust off. Pegboard? The 1960’s are calling and want it back. 😂😂. But thanks for taking the time to watch anyway.
@treeguyable Жыл бұрын
@@buildingthebruce I put pegboard every square inch of my shop walls, from bout waist up. Gotta have my inventory of junk visible for this old guy!🥸
@victoramato4692 Жыл бұрын
Gotta have pegboard! I always promote it. Auto shop in highschool hooked me on that. If there's an empty hook you find that tool. Tool boxes are for specialty tools. I have ALL hand tools on the wall😊. Takes 2 seconds to get a wrench socket. No toolbox digging!
@thewoodchucker-doug4303 Жыл бұрын
In Alberta we are paying $29.99 to $39.99 per gallon (4 litres). It’s crazy.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s nuts. I think I can buy a gallon of synthetic motor oil cheaper than that when it’s on sale at Canadian Tire! Did Alberta run out of oil? 😂. Maybe the Feds added carbon tax to bar oil too?
@Marcel-fo2cb Жыл бұрын
Alberta ADVANTAGE for you
@B44SB66 Жыл бұрын
I’ll pick up used bar and chain oil at garage sales for pennies on the dollar and have several gallons in reserve
@dontarguewafool955 Жыл бұрын
The stihl dealers here in Florida are charging near $50.00 per gallon now. Talk about some serious gouging. Husqvarna premium oil is around $25.00 per gallon. There classic is up to $14 from about $8.00 before 2020 lock down.
@2pist Жыл бұрын
Used motor oil works great.
@treeguyable Жыл бұрын
Running a tree business yr round, I rarely buy bar oil, the guy who picks up my logs, trades for bar and engine oil, and grease. He has a business selling lubricants. The logs aren't worth much, but, they are worth that , for sure.
@lukustreloar7243 Жыл бұрын
Great method. Sounds good mto me.😊😊
@kevinfoster1213 Жыл бұрын
Several years ago I was running drain oil in my saws. Financial reasons. Didn't mind it till my old shit would break down and cleaning up all the smelly old black oil just to find fasteners. What a mess. But I don't judge.. run what ya bring..
@damianjones6546 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. We've got a load of used cooking oil. I think I might have a go at cleaning it up.
@andrelabonte2294 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 4 litre jug in Bancroft Ontario and paid $22.60 tax included at Carquest. It’s good quality and the least expensive in this town.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s still a lot of money. I remember seeing it for around $12.00 a few years ago at TSC.
@victoryfirst2878 Жыл бұрын
I use canola, vegetable, peanut oils from the kitchen. You can buy this stuff where I live for 6 to 9 dollars a gallon. The oil is biodegradable and NON TOXIC !!!! THE OIL you use BRUCE is toxic to the woods you are cutting firewood in fella. 20 bucks for a gallon is just crazy. Nice video fella too. 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Well, toxic is a pretty strong word. I’m only planning to burn the wood, not eat it. But it’s good to hear that you are doing your part to save the planet. Your work area must smell awesome.
@victoryfirst2878 Жыл бұрын
Yes it does Sir. YOU can say edible. @@buildingthebruce
@jreeder6168 Жыл бұрын
Looks like STP. We kids used to add STP in transmissions and rear ends as a tickifier. Good demo.
@tcmits3699 Жыл бұрын
I just use windshield washer fluid 😊
@TractorWrangler01 Жыл бұрын
Actually were not pumping oil here hardly at all. It was mostly shut down my the current administration. The pipeline was also shut down and public lands were shut down to oil exploration. We are mostly dependent on foreign oil at this time. We are an energy rich nation with our hands tied when it comes to extracting the enormous amounts of oil we have beneath our feet. At one point in the previous administration a barrel of oil was so cheap it was almost free. The previous administration filled the strategic oil reserves with oil that was about $10 per barrel. This administration sold almost all that oil to China. Something is wrong with this administration. It is what it is and there is no possible way to cover it up.
@brucemikkelsen7615 Жыл бұрын
interesting video. A bit hard to hear at times. Maybe increase the audio.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I’m definitely going to try to do a better job with the video production in the future. Hopefully Santa will bring me a microphone. 🤞. Please consider supporting the efforts by subscribing.
@russellrains487711 ай бұрын
STP Oil Treatment is a tackifier.
@kenberscheit94810 ай бұрын
just stocked up for the season and only paid less then 8.00/gallon for commercially available oil , name brand
@buildingthebruce10 ай бұрын
That’s a lot better than any price I’ve seen or have been reported in the comments. Good deal for sure. Maybe prices are going to head back down for summer weight oil. I’m actually heading to Husqvarna dealership this week, I’ll let you know the prices out here in Southern Ontario.
@buildingthebruce10 ай бұрын
$31.00 for Husky 3.78 litres. Sounds like you got a great deal!
@emariaenterprises Жыл бұрын
Sounds more like you need to fold it in.... Like maybe you could use a paint mixing stick.
@allanwells4886 Жыл бұрын
I find cheap Canola oil works great in my saws. I've also used a cheap motor oil with good results. The Canola also works great on bicycle chains; very clean. An old loggers trick was to blend some beef fat with vegetable oil to thicken it but I've never tried it my self. Fat was used as a lubricant in the old days in steam trains as the hot steam didn't wash the fat off the cylinder walls.
@buildingthebruce Жыл бұрын
That’s some interesting info. I always like to hear how things were done by the generations before us. I feel that what our ancestors lacked in materials and technology they more then made up with through hard work and determination. I grew up in the family farm and some of the fixes and contraptions my grandfather came up with were hilarious, dangerous, but also kinda genius. Thanks for watching and consider supporting the channel by subscribing.
@blueplasma5589 Жыл бұрын
Looks like STP. In what way was the blender ruined?? Ha ha
@apistosig4173 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you want to - bar lubricant is no less important than it is in your gearbox / transmission or condom - these are things where compromise just doesn't cut the mustard
@terrybaltzer790511 ай бұрын
Use half oil and half chain oil
@markcole6475 Жыл бұрын
I use just about any oil I don’t plan to use for its intended purpose …..I don’t feel it’s critical to use “proper” bar oil…any oil will lube a chain as long as the oil isn’t so thin or thick it won’t pump or leak out fast..