How to make Post-Punk

[@Pagefire]

Death rock? Halloween next year! edit: because of delays and other personal reasons, HTM Deathrock will still happen, give us time.

[@lorenzofresquez3012]

That would be a great genre for a video, but a genre called Psychobilly isn't talked about much and I also feel it would be a interesting video.

[@baron5446]

NICE. Exciting shit. Love me some deathrock, can't pump enough deathrock into my veins, too good.

[@danceyoufiend394]

We need it nowwwwwww

[@jareds9863]

ACID BATH

[@daishoryujin95]

SHOEGAZE

[@gerardmontgomery280]

Pagfire shitposting has taught me more about genres than legitimate documentaries.

[@v0dka885]

it's ironic, when they made fun of Harsh wall Noise they actually got me into it. I listen to it when going to sleep cause it relaxes me.

[@Jack_Rivet]

@@v0dka885 Weirdly enough I think there's some science behind that. Why do you think people calm down when someone says Sh ?

[@controlador_oficial]

Netflix could finance these guys into a miniserie

[@i_hate_rock_and_metal]

How To Make - _(some selected music genre)..._ 🤔

[@lars38010]

@@v0dka885 Because Harsh Wall Noise is white noise. And white noise is used for sleeping. You know about those rain,thunder,fan etc sounds on KZbin? That is also white noise.

[@GothMusicLatinAmerica]

finally a genre where bassists get to shine 😎

[@mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844]

Funk also has shiny bassists. In fact, post punk got that from their mild Funk and Disco influences

[@TheVioletBunny]

@@mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844 *finally a good genre where bassists shine

[@Niedergauss]

@@TheVioletBunny ....What did you say, punk?

[@TheVioletBunny]

@@Niedergauss what are you Dirty Harry? I said funk and disco sucks. Now piss off

[@craigstuckey319]

Funk rules. Post punk is atrocious. Some of the worst and most boring and predictable music I've ever heard.

[@stefan1024]

Step 1: time travel to 1980 Step 2: ?? Step 3: profit

[@Snarl616]

Step 4: drugs, I guess...?

[@stefan1024]

@@Snarl616 lol actually step 2 might be drugs already -- as well as 4, 5, 7, 11, 23 to 37, ...

[@bartsimpsonnft4387]

The goth incident march 29th 1980

[@miklosgula7665]

: yes :

[@leftright6054]

Snarl616 you don't need drugs to be a goth and make darkwave music.

[@qtkxtsh2074]

-Mother, can we have The Cure? -We have The Cure at Russia. The Cure at Russia: Victor Tsoi

[@Apost0345]

Tsoi alongside with KINO are better than the cure

[@piotriwanicki1558]

Kino rocked, actually. I could never get into The Cure but love Kino.

[@qtkxtsh2074]

I dunno, guys, both of them not my cup of tea

[@johncohen4996]

Kino is the Russian Killing Joke.

[@piotriwanicki1558]

@@johncohen4996 I dunno, try Siekiera for Polish Killing Joke though

[@forkandspoonoperator]

There’s no sun. Looks like it might rain. And pagefire is doing post punk. It’s going to be a good day to not die.

[@dmoneyonair]

yo it rained here too

[@musicboistudios9575]

I would drop a like but it's at 69 likes, and that's a nice number

[@zeedause5289]

That's a good first verse to a post punk song

[@garysuarez9614]

Today more than the previous...

[@gloomsdoom649]

🔥

[@Xaero188]

Yep, as a Russian, I 100% confirm that at the moment post-punk is having its underground renaissance here. The only problem is that in an internet era most kids refer to it as Russian Doomer Music. And the main difference between Russian post-punk and original one is that the original one often chooses the topic of politics, fears or gothic style stuff whereas the Russian one is all about post-soviet decadence and overall lingering depression/apathy, which is less of a personal thing and more of a millenial generation trait at this point. Also post-punk is probably so popular here because we have at least one iconic band from the 80s that kinda set the course for that genre. I'm talking about "Кино" (eng. Film \ Cinema) that's commonly considered a "Russian rock" band, but many of their songs have this very post-punk-ish vibe, especially the ones like "Спокойная Ночь" (eng. Quiet Night), "Кукушка" (eng. Cuckoo) or "Группа Крови" (eng. Blood Type). P.S.: *POOTIS PENCER HERE* indeed, комрад. Прям в самое сердечко.

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

Oh yeah Кино are definitely a post-punk band, although they have a lot of new wave songs too

[@nadyatyan]

Цой жив!

[@heracit4012]

Интересное наблюдение.

[@lejlateletovic5225]

"Группа Крови" Perfect pun

[@YanaDasgupta]

calling russian post punk doomer music is so sad. I mean Кино did so much for the scene all to be reduced to slow+reverbed "depression" remixes on youtube. :/

[@chrisboyle6175]

You've done it again. Written a song that slaps so damn hard it has no right to, all in the spirit of high quality shitposting. Bravo :D

[@DanieleMontesi]

That's unironically good! Cheers from Italy🎉🎉

[@toddchavez393]

d-daniele san?!😳😳😖😖🥵

[@marcomessina7724]

Ciaoo anche tu qua che figata

[@acidesystoppedworking5857]

bellaaa

[@Mossmossmosss]

CIAO!

[@mingusflavio4126]

Wee porco diiooo

[@spoozilla]

Came for the Andri, stayed for the Anne-Line.

[@Aelle_Vox]

Thank you!

[@Izzboticus]

She knocked it out of the park!

[@NegoClau]

Can't blame. Here for the same.

[@Sanwitch_69]

Ngl Andri high-key pulls of that look. What a handsome young man

[@mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844]

He looks better with a mustache though

[@simonheerze3085]

You could say Drop Dead Gorgeous ;)

[@ishmaelexpatriate]

FR

[@Jack_Rivet]

Actual Goth since 1992 here. Your parody postpunk/goth song is as good as (and better than many of) the actual goth bands I've ever heard! Really good arrangement (love the Budgie flourishes on the toms!) and Anne-Line killed it on the vocals.

[@Aelle_Vox]

This means a lot, as a babybat I was really nervous about diving into this genre and I wanted to do it justice. Thank you for the validation

[@richardlion4448]

I agree...and I play in a goth-band...

[@jennoscura2381]

I agree. It's legitimately a good song.

[@AC-hj9tv]

What were you in 1991?

[@Jack_Rivet]

@@AC-hj9tv a scruffy kid who had some black clothes but hadn’t really found what he was and didn’t fully get the Cure yet

[@areamusicale]

The drums should be played and recorded on the roof* *Joy Division - She lost control

[@nottherealpaulsmith]

Do you think they played the spray can on the roof, too?

[@anarkie2016]

Fuck it, put Martin Hannett on the roof too

[@seanmcdonald4436]

YA...The roof of the funeral parlour ! Moo-hoo-hoo-ha-ha- HAAAA !!!!!!!

[@serpicoserpi]

I'm obsessed with this genre.

[@naechtl]

Same

[@tuckermclean136]

No, I'M obsessed with this genre *elitist gatekeeping intensifies*

[@zeedause5289]

@@tuckermclean136 nuh UH I bet you don't even listen to The Bleeding Stalactites, you poseur!

[@Undaglibenglaubengloben]

Killing Joke and Mission of Burma

[@kennys436]

Protomartyr is keeping it up

[@joshhale9355]

Not gonna lie, you’re rocking the makeup dude

[@thatweirdlesbian-]

Yeah dude. You killed it.

[@ferdinandstrat]

I know this is supposed to be a joke video, but damn it has a lot of good info and the "quickly made" songs actually sound really good

[@Povilaz]

So the next video is "how to make soviet-wave/soviet-punk"? Edit: he actually mentioned it it's pretty much confirmed.

[@Amber-wb7qt]

KINO LETS GOOOOOOO

[@marguskiis7711]

Just let you grandaunt send you a drum machine, find a strange looking singer and add some primal base, dull acoustic guitar, write some lyrics about drinking gasoline, eating citramon pills, sniffing glue, smoking Bellamors and here you go.

[@raskolnikov7049]

@@marguskiis7711 you got it confused with baltic punk.

[@macgruber6739]

Molchat Doma fuckin' slaps.

[@marguskiis7711]

@@raskolnikov7049 Baltic punk - - JMKE.

[@jaybonny1954]

Yall are so talented wtf. A mini documentary, new songs, and a killer music vid. All for free with highest quality. Thank you 👏

[@SH-dz1yc]

Looks so good just from the thumbnail, my goth heart feels represented 🖤❤️🖤!

[@diptyajitbanerjee4935]

Last week was my goth friend's birthday. I gave him a radio because both of us are old fashioned. He exclaimed, "DANCE, DANCE, DANCE, DANCE, DANCE TO THE RADIO"

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

If you make a crust punk (or d-beat) tutorial now, I'll be able to die in peace

[@CincyMetalDrummer]

Would love to hear a d-beat tutorial, hell how about powerviolence too!

[@legoharry100]

D-Beat Dad makes videos on how to play d-beat. Not a meme page and a little rough on the editing/delivery but very informative.

[@dariovargas8843]

I support you!

[@Samuraislash600]

Just fucking commented this. 😂

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

@@CincyMetalDrummer Hell yeah!

[@tjg121389]

If that song actually came out back in the 80s, it would have been a hit. Seriously, that was awesome

[@Trassel242]

Actual goth here, this video is spot on!

[@Estorium]

Drop Dear Gorgeous is legitimately a wonderful song. I was dancing around my room. I would buy a full album like this if you made one.

[@samisatlacc7736]

..by REPUBLICA?

[@JakeSommer]

Russian post-punk is amazing. Molchat Doma is probably one of my favorite bands in the genre.

[@functionalcpp]

They try to be like Victor Tsoy (Kino band), legendary Russian artist, who... was "inspired" by The Cure :) Say this as a native Russian, try Kino if you like Russian post-punk. But better try The Cure

[@jacquesfrancois4275]

I love Molchat Doma. Through them I discovered all the great dark wave bands I listen to now

[@matthiasthulman4058]

@@functionalcpp do you have any more suggestions?

[@functionalcpp]

@@matthiasthulman4058 maybe not total post punk, but still good. Try ssshhhiiittt!

[@veiserexab1428]

Try Kino and Chernikovskaya hata

[@franciscoh.j8182]

I love how this "parody" sounds a lot like Rosegarden Funeral Party, an actual modern goth band which is really good

[@randomdudewholikesmusic1640]

I wish there was a full version of that Post-Punk Harry Potter track.

[@maxmosnew]

Postpunk is the background music for living in Russia Постпанк - это фоновая музыка для проживания в россии

[@nottherealpaulsmith]

well post-punk is all about being depressing, and what could possibly be more depressing than post-collapse eastern europe?

[@kusipaa8683]

@@nottherealpaulsmith The US?

[@gearandalthefirst7027]

@@kusipaa8683 at least we pretend to have elections

[@ash4457]

@@nottherealpaulsmith Being a young person in Turkey lol

[@johncohen4996]

Кино!

[@LeftyConspirator]

Why does this make me want to re-read my old Vampire the Masquerade books?

[@veriahl]

Because it is an objectively good idea.

[@LeftyConspirator]

True dat. I still have a 1st edition VtM core book from 1991 on my bookshelf. Takes me back, that one does.

[@veriahl]

5th edition is really great despite what some of the whinier parts of "fanbase" claims.

[@MisstressMourtisha]

Btw the book of nod is out of print and it's like $100 to get one used.

[@maximeteppe7627]

Vampire the masquerade is for the early "dead can dance" edge of post punk

[@amalgama-dette1430]

How its possible that every music genre parody song they do its soo good?!

[@hpspacecraft713]

As a guitarist, you can get a really cool gothy sound by playing those arpeggios drenched in reverb and while leaning lightly on a trem bar, shoegaze style. The wavery sound you get from that adds a lot of cool ambiance.

[@Atomic_Mousetrap]

Anne-Line is so fucking good at this genre, holy shit! New favorite pagefire song.

[@Aelle_Vox]

Thank you very much

[@sab-ali]

When i first heard post punk i felt that this was the music that spoke to me like no other form of music. It was hard to understand in the beginning as I was into rock metal progressive rock grunge everything, but this became and is always the music that is closest to my heart. It is a feeling, not just music.

[@Testgeraeusch]

Upvote for the Cybergoths at 4:35 :D And the Danzig bit was just perfect.

[@MisstressMourtisha]

Yesh

[@miguelangeljimenez3237]

What’s the name of the song?

[@Testgeraeusch]

@@miguelangeljimenez3237 The sampled one of the screams from "Mother"... as for the song in the background of batman scene... it sounds like they tried to imitate Joy Division, but it's not Joy Division. :/

[@corpse.r0t967]

song name?

[@CVolvo740]

@@corpse.r0t967 Song is called "Burn Down Hot Topic" but I have no clue about who's singing it.

[@musicbyoakly]

I have to write 5 Post Punk songs for the EP of a friend, this helped a lot, never hear of Post Punk 2 hours ago, already finished my first track right now.

[@tackbracka]

When you accidently write a Blondie song...

[@kaganozdemir4332]

Post punk is punk but played by good musicians: - Hooky - Siouxsie - John McGeoch** - Robert Smith - Colin Newman - Steven Severin And many more. These are my faves

[@heracit4012]

Often post-punk band is the same people who played punk before. Like Crisis, Outsiders->The Sound, early JD, and more.

[@kaganozdemir4332]

@@heracit4012 exactly, that was my point

[@LovelyMetalhead]

I've been stupid hype for this one

[@VladiCaligari]

Fantastic video, as a goth, i can see myself dancing this song in a club, Anne's voice fits the genre so well also Andri you really nailed the make up.

[@Smuckeroni]

That "pootis spencer here" makes my tf2 heart jump for joy.

[@casesuit]

It really caught me off guard but it also made me happy aswell.

[@masterklaw4527]

I think when I first saw this video, my life changed.

[@cpsbBXCX]

i love post-punk so you're on thin ice this time around pagefire

[@alvarojm750]

This channel is painfully underrated. The quality of shitpost verges on unironically trying!!

[@macdemarco1711]

PRIVET!!! DELA YU MENYUA HOROSHO!!! Привет!

[@scaathreykr]

4:26 -- The dude on the right and I went to the same school! He's awesome!

[@onlookingwalkingperson9016]

Can I just say its truly a pleasure when a channel can this incredibly informative; yet still have such a unique and chaotic sense of humor and exemplarily editing. I been watching your channel since 2019; and you always deliver. Not only that but I am actually rather curious to try out Post Punk now - Thank you for the rec. (Espically since I usually only listen to metal; granted my tastes encompass a lot of subgenres. - Till next Time - Cheers from Australia. Will plan to watch this one many more time

[@Gyrbae]

Calling it now: This will become the go to video for everyone who wants to be part of the long waited post punk/goth revival scene. Including me.

[@MysteriousAsteria]

Long waited? There's already a revival going on since the early/mid 2010s.

[@Gyrbae]

@@MysteriousAsteria Really? Damn, I have been oblivious. I was aware of resurgence at around 2018 but I didn't know it's been going on even longer.

[@haroldushawkinsi5804]

@@Gyrbae i think goth was less emphasised in the 2000s/2010s but post punk revival was big like Interpol and the strokes.

[@ComradePilas]

I wont stop, give us some midwest emo or real screamo/skramz tutorial!

[@honestalex5790]

Ain't it interesting how goth comes from post-punk, being a more avant garde, glammy, melodic and melancholy sub genre of punk. And emo comes from post hxc, which is a more melodic, lengthy, avant garde style of hxc punk. Lol so its like Goth and Emo are cousins from different sides of the punk family. Lol idk just a fun fact about the 2

[@tpags7398]

How to be skramz, 1. Get bowl cut 2. Get three guitarists, Two Bassists, Two Vocalists and two drummers (keys Optional) 3. Get 7 distortion pedals and Kurt Ballou to produce you 4. Scream like someone cut your arms off 5. Act like you are god’s gift to earth 6. Done

[@syahaz7088]

@@honestalex5790 Yea, I still surprised by it. Both being punk descendants but sounds very different from each other.

[@Izzboticus]

2 years later and this video is still one of the best.

[@Rem1Gnova]

This is my favourite video you’ve done Andri looks so cool! And I will not forget, “genrer is for nerds” And the song’s fucking good

[@Arokuara]

I always thought the Russians pioneered this genre just because they are so good at being sad and taking you to a post/during soviet world. It just sounds so much more natural and sad in Russian lol

[@marguskiis7711]

No they did not

[@navajospy2556]

same molchat doma is where i learned about this genre.

[@ThatBooRadley]

literally came across this video while listening to post-punk. I've never been so attached to a pagefire video this much. Kinda wish u talked a little about the recent (late 2010's-2020's) resurgence in the UK other than just the Russian side, but I still love the vid, nonetheless :). Some of the most comprehensive post-punk stuff I've seen!

[@Jeannek4493]

I love at the beginning him laying in the bed, it is very Lullaby by The Cure

[@timothymckane6362]

Speaking of the "Post" music genre, will you dabble on Post-Black Metal in the future?

[@drpibisback7680]

How To Blackgaze would be fun, but I think How To Post-Rock would be fun just because it's so un-metal.

[@categorille8330]

@@drpibisback7680 i'd be so down for a how to post-black or blackgaze

[@OwDenied]

im going to use this guide to start a post-punk band and reach international acclaim and when asked in an interview what are my inspirations imma link this channel

[@evablack6934]

This was very fun to watch, and the song actually sounds great, I would definitely go to a concert of a band who sounded like that! Also, post-punk is an essential soundtrack for Russian environment, once you arrive to basically any Russian city and turn on something like KINO in your headphones, you start to get it.

[@ericthiel4053]

Ahh yes. Goth rock is some of the best music out there. The 80s and 90s really were great for Goths. Before hot topic made it possible for every poser to go into the store and walk out looking like Tim Burton threw up all over them.....

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

Just a warning: The moment you hear or read the word “poser,” run as fast and as far away as possible.

[@AuuuAuuuo]

​@@Ballin4Vengeancethere's nothing wrong with wanting to keep subcultures authentic and free from commercialisation.

[@lukanaciousd9965]

You guys rock. I don’t think I’ve laughed so hard in a long time. I used to be in a Grindcore band and man you nailed how we wrote our songs!!

[@markneidengard508]

I've admired the "How to make" series for a long time, and I must say this is a new high water mark. Awesome job, and kudos to the new additions to the Pagefire crew. Keep up the great work!

[@nikguimont8546]

It’s nice to finally to see a genre with importance talked about on this channel

[@joolz666]

Drop Dead Gorgeous would have had them spilling their snakebite and blacks in a frenzy of goth dancing at Phonos in Leeds circa 1985. Nice work.

[@KrunoJanes]

Seeing Anne-Line reading the Bauhaus catalogue made me laugh! Great video!

[@marcoreiter5799]

What's the song at 0:35 with the saxophones?

[@BigDaddyBate]

^

[@Povilaz]

18:53 I'd suggest switching to 360p or even 240p for that 2007-2010 early KZbin reupload quality. You know the one that has more views than the original and has the "No copyright infringement needed" in the description.

[@jannelavogez1794]

I love the bauhaus furniture magazine she's reading 🤣

[@Aelle_Vox]

Yay thanks Janne!

[@User-xw6kd]

Television's Marquee Moon is one of my favourite albums ever. Needs more appreciation.

[@forestofmemories7939]

Bye: school Hello: underground

[@somewhatdiscrete]

oh I'm INSTANTLY subscribed. this was so funny and informative and now I have a new genre to add to my spotify playlists. I look forward to watching your other videos!!!

[@robertfalse9063]

10:40 "It's very rare for the guitar to be in the main focus" *SCREAMS IN BLACK METAL*

[@DannyStrickland-g9k]

THAT BASS LINE......is DROP....DEAD....GORGEOUS. !! Upvoted and Subscribed from a 60 year old Goth !!!

[@keiser5374]

One of my all time favorite genres of music, thanks guys :)

[@jdkanuch2790]

drop dead gorgeous slaps. Her vox is perfect! awesome video too

[@darkwave9345]

id gladly listen to an entire album of this

[@Rgdonaire_07]

Loved the song! This video came just in time for me, I want to work on some music inspired by post punk.

[@nebulanoir69]

This is so fucking good!! As a goth myself i love seeing the encouragement of goth music for fresh faces in the scene!

[@doctorfeelfunny584]

Hardcore punk and post-punk started around the same time (late 70s/early 80s). We weren't supposed to like both at the time, but a lot of us did.

[@nonsanctus7916]

I feel like Andri gave this genre more respect than normal.

[@GregDollar]

I've been trying to find my voice as a music producer/artist and you guys NAILED it for me - Thank you!

[@daishoryujin95]

This episode feels most like a Mighty Boosh sketch

[@Aelle_Vox]

But have you ever drunk Bailey's out of a shoe? x)

[@r.a.t.production6365]

You did a good job at that Post-Punk song

[@Distortion0]

10/10 would dance to this at the Goth Club.

[@rukay1636]

I cannot describe how much I've loved this thank you for existing

[@terrorfr0nt]

I remember when Katatonia tried to start a post-punk project and they failed because they just couldn't think of compositions in the style. But they made an AWESOME song called Scarlet Havens and released it on Discouraged Ones from 1998.

[@jayt7178]

There’s a current post punk revival going on right now throughout England. Check out bands like IDLES, Black MIDI, Black Country new road, shame, fat white family, etc. there’s a lot more, but those are what come to mind.

[@theoptimisticmetalhead7787]

Man I'm not gonna lie this episode just made me wanna listen to Bauhaus all night.

[@olearntz]

It's been a while since I was heavily into this Goth thing. A few days ago, I stumbled over your channel and these songs. You totally got me by surprise. I really love that "Siouxsie vibe". Now both songs are stick to my brain and refuse to get out, again. I'd never bought anything via bandcamp before, but this time i simply had to. Thanks & great job, man!

[@demidevil666]

I'm always amazed at how well your compositions at the end of these videos encapsulate the given genre. The soung you wrote is really really good! You did a fine job summing up my favourite genre. :) Oh also, please do a video on death rock too. :D

[@shakey215]

bands like This Heat and Pere Ubu needed shout outs! Pure pioneers of the genre, think this may have stemmed onto nu-wave too much. Also, if we are fans of the genre, there's a big wave coming out of the UK and Ireland at the moment. Bands like Fontaines DC, Black Midi, Black Country New Road & shame are all young, talented bands all reviving the more visceral sound of post-punk.

[@Alexandrovgleb]

Greetings from Russia, bro! U must make "How to" about special russian rock or hardbass/ Both are very popular in Russia

[@matthiasthulman4058]

Cheeki breeki is really all you need

[@MrYowen88]

wow that song was really good!! Might be my favorite one so far? Great job on the vocals Anne-Line!!!

[@ulanbatard]

I'm actually trying to make post-punk. I didn't watch the video yet but i'm all pumped because i know i will learn a lot while laughing at every silly joke.

[@crose7412]

2:35 Siouxsie was 19 at that time!

[@Falxifer95]

If you listen to black metal in your teens and early adulthood, you will worship post-punk and gothic rock when you're over 27. That's just a fact. After all, when your youth subsits of edgelordy angsty fake anger, your adulthood will be hollow, bitter and depressing.

[@Falxifer95]

@@funeralpyre616 I speak from experience.

[@iandism]

Hmm, being a UK goth after seeing the likes of The Banshees, Sisters of Mercy (first gig) Killing Joke, Bauhaus, the Cramps, The Birthday Party etc, 1980-82 Leeds. I have to add a fantastic band from Detroit USA that I grew to love. I even became friends with the singer/guitarist John Koester and kept in contact for many years, the band... Gargoyle Sox. If you haven't heard them check out the likes of their awesome 12" ep As The Master Sleeps or their lp Headless Horseman. I am reading Goth, the art of darkness by John Robb. Well worth the read also.

[@Calebm90]

Everyone looks so good goth'd out! I need a shoegaze tut - a friend and I are thinking about starting a band

[@stephanvenner2939]

I had a lot of fun watching the Video.The Song is great.Goth and PostPunk from Germany, Cheers 🍻🦇🎶

[@nic0din]

what's the song at 4:35?

[@hellenrodris]

i wanna know too :'(

[@jacquesfrancois4275]

As an intermediate guitar player I genuinely appreciate this as a tutorial.

[@angelvg7096]

for the first time this music dont sound borring to me, nice song, sound amazing, i hope the day you make the how to make stoner doom or stoner rock uwu

[@Excubitor616]

U guy's and gal are really amazing... those songs at the end always nails it xD