How to Make this Strong Alternative Dovetail Joint

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Pask Makes

Pask Makes

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@ShawnBean
@ShawnBean 5 жыл бұрын
Yet another vote for calling it the "Pask Joint"! Seriously, unless you can find it in an old book about joinery, I think you invented it and therefore it deserves your name. Great video, Neil!
@kayakMike1000
@kayakMike1000 Жыл бұрын
I think we should call it the waste of time ugly joint. Or maybe the "requires a special tool" joint. Perhaps retardo joint?
@MikeCarly1019
@MikeCarly1019 Жыл бұрын
I have done some woodworks in the past but this woodwork plan kzbin.infoUgkxZF0EMnrujZvqHhGkxiz559uIABJWR9TG helps me do much in a far lesser time than i used to do i have already built several projects with this plan and i intend to do many more soon. Thank you so much!
@farmerdiy9024
@farmerdiy9024 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly is should be called a Pask Joint!!!!
@bigscreenbird8198
@bigscreenbird8198 5 жыл бұрын
Beat ya to that name!!
@jessbowers327
@jessbowers327 5 жыл бұрын
Literally just said almost exactly the same thing without reading the comments.
@738polarbear
@738polarbear 5 жыл бұрын
Not really it is just a series of MORTICES .
@aguscambon12
@aguscambon12 5 жыл бұрын
totally
@More-Space-In-Ear
@More-Space-In-Ear 5 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!! 👍🏼
@MyGrowthRings
@MyGrowthRings 5 жыл бұрын
I believe it’s a “through tongue and rabbet joint”. I’ll have to dig out my copy of the “Encyclopedia of Furniture Making“, though your approach to mortising is unique.
@leehaelters6182
@leehaelters6182 5 жыл бұрын
I cut my teeth on Joyce, and I recall nothing there about this. Quite content to christen it Pask Joint! Highly inventive, this fellow; not only that, but he really can make it happen!
@boryscholewinski4370
@boryscholewinski4370 5 жыл бұрын
I have been into woodworking videos and into woodworking it self for quite some time now. And your content besides beeing briliant is just so... fresh. Thank you.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Borys! :)
@henryworkswoodandmetal
@henryworkswoodandmetal 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a ton of work to get it set up but clearly worth it ....... the joint is beautiful! Excellent job!
@couldhaveseenit
@couldhaveseenit 4 жыл бұрын
I've had a loose mortising bit for years with no way of using it, this is just what I need. Thank you!
@fossilsfabe4304
@fossilsfabe4304 5 жыл бұрын
You continue to astonish Neil. Your self-deprecating style and honesty shine through. This should definitely be called a Pask joint.
@donjackson4703
@donjackson4703 5 жыл бұрын
I have a drill press mortising attachment that takes this type of bit. You were correct to give the inner bit the clearance you did. I love this joint and will try it sometime. This is your design so it should bear your name. Cheers!
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don, that's good to know. :)
@mattiasfagerlund
@mattiasfagerlund 5 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos ever - love the project, the stop motion and the end result. I'm so impressed that you keep going from strength to strength!
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Mattias - glad you enjoyed it! :)
@MonicaLN
@MonicaLN 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely gorgeous joint and I'm so impressed by the jigs you engineered! 😍
@SmokeFlame1
@SmokeFlame1 4 жыл бұрын
There are so many ideas in this video, I'll have to watch is about 8 or 10 times. That chisel-drill on your drill press is marvelous.
@MooseLord.
@MooseLord. 5 жыл бұрын
Love it! Thanks for another awesome video. You've become a leading source of inspiration for my work, and I've been humbled by your level of patience and detail.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Soren - glad you're enjoying the videos! :)
@21mph12
@21mph12 5 жыл бұрын
I might call it a rabbeted mortise and tenon. Very cool, thanks!
@acerjuglans383
@acerjuglans383 Жыл бұрын
That's a brilliant way of using a mortising bit in a drill press.
@jimmacaulay844
@jimmacaulay844 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to suggest "Squared Knapp Joint", but since it appears to be the first of its kind, the inventor must get credit. Pask Joint it is! I'm going to make some.
@timflanigan8586
@timflanigan8586 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! Having been fortunate enough (after many years of pining for one) to find an affordable mortiser on Craigslist, this is now going to be my “go to” method of drawer construction. Thanks for introducing us to the “Pask Joint”!!
@johngoins1902
@johngoins1902 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I do the same thing to get to a measurement I want. I push it up against the blade while it's not spinning! I've never seen anyone else do that. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one!!
@davidkalil5698
@davidkalil5698 4 жыл бұрын
i've watched this video three times now and it has inspired me to get my workshop set up again. Thank you!
@capnskustomworks
@capnskustomworks 5 жыл бұрын
I at first thought a "Pask Joint", which I see many others have as well, but it then occurred to me that ye might go for inventing more joints in the future. So now I'm thinking maybe a "Pask Box Joint"? It seems kinda like a relative of a box joint, with a very high-end look! I could see that being made use of in some beautiful furniture.
@roseericson3828
@roseericson3828 4 жыл бұрын
1/2 blind peg joint, but then I totally agree with 1/2 blind Pask joint. Thanks I learned a lot today!!!
@jnjarvis1
@jnjarvis1 5 жыл бұрын
Highlight of my week is when Pask posts a video. Another good one
@mikeconroy1543
@mikeconroy1543 5 жыл бұрын
Neil. I agree with the many other comments. This should be known as the Pask Joint or as someone else coined, the Pask box joint. Fantastic as always. Thank you.
@TimRoyalPastortim
@TimRoyalPastortim 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely a mortise and tenon joint! Incredibly strong!
@ernie5229
@ernie5229 5 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I've seen your work. You have radically upped your game. Congratulations!!
@hsette
@hsette 5 жыл бұрын
Square Peg Pask Joint. Beautiful !!
@theliryx
@theliryx 5 жыл бұрын
That cool joint for drawer !!
@markspc1
@markspc1 5 жыл бұрын
Great work Pask Makes. At the end ( 14:47 min) when you compared the two joints I got an idea, maybe you can do another joint; combine the square pegs with the round pegs (the Knapp Joint) so the Knapp Joint lose the scallops. So make the Knapp Joint without the scallop, this way you don't need the square chisel bit and the complicated scallops ? Hope you have the time to make it ! Thanks.
@MonicaLN
@MonicaLN 5 жыл бұрын
markspc1 That would be a gorgeous alternative!
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark! That is a known joint and you should be able to find examples with a search. It's easier than the scallops but even though it looks good it isn't as striking as the other two joints. I do still like it though. I was going to include it in my last video but it was getting too long. :)
@markspc1
@markspc1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks @@PaskMakes. It should be fast to make the scallop-less Knapp Joint; you already have the toll to make the pegs and the template to make the hole :)
@markspc1
@markspc1 5 жыл бұрын
@@MonicaLN Thank you Monica, hope Pask have the time to make it.
@suzisaintjames
@suzisaintjames 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice! 💝☀🌵 p.s. thanks for all you do! That trick with the mortising bit will save me a ton of money! Another great hack. Don't let those armchair woodworkers get you down. Those jigs make it possible for beginners like me to have any hope making these projects.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Suzi! :)
@wbriggs111
@wbriggs111 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great joint. It will save me time and frustrations. Mistakes are a problem with me so those dovetails can take a hike. I have a name for it. MINE
@yamahantx7005
@yamahantx7005 4 жыл бұрын
What a great jig! Beautiful joint!
@paulbennett7021
@paulbennett7021 5 жыл бұрын
There seems to be a concensus which coincides with my choice; let it be the Pask joint - everyone's going to call it that anyway - it may as well be official
@jtotheb-ip2hh
@jtotheb-ip2hh 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously. It's a done deal.
@FrenchCoastWorkshop
@FrenchCoastWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a piece of furniture (drawer, maybe ?) using each of your custom joint! It would look so cool and make a great conversation starter ;)
@davidharvey5672
@davidharvey5672 5 жыл бұрын
This is such a good looking joint. I must try getting some mortising bits and giving your set up a try. I'm going to make the stop leg so it goes either side of the drill colomb with plenty of slack then put studding in from each side to locate and finely adjust it . Great video thanks
@TheRaven0811
@TheRaven0811 5 жыл бұрын
Pask Joint definitely!
@rjtumble
@rjtumble 5 жыл бұрын
Love the joint and the method, thanks. The stop motion at the end was a great touch.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you - glad you liked that! :)
@bigscreenbird8198
@bigscreenbird8198 5 жыл бұрын
The Pask Joint!
@ricmarsh7877
@ricmarsh7877 5 жыл бұрын
Very impressed! I love the new "Pask Joint"!
@tombuildsthings
@tombuildsthings 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool joint! I especially like the simple tool for using the mortising chisel bit.
@cwgoforth
@cwgoforth 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing ingenuity....the Pask Joint. Thank you Sir for sharing
@harrypalmer3481
@harrypalmer3481 Жыл бұрын
- another vote for 'Pask Joint'. ! Lovely.
@dzanealbright
@dzanealbright 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard it said that this is called a Pask Joint. Once again, great job Neil! I have really enjoyed watching you create dovetail alternatives.
@cspann831
@cspann831 5 жыл бұрын
I got one of them square-hole driller doo-dad thingamajigs I never use. I could send it off to you but looks like you MacGyvered yourself an elegant solution and now you have your name carved in the Pantheon of sawdustmaking. That looks very cool. Never saw a joint like that. I imagine it would be just about the same effort as hand cut dovetails
@Smalltime
@Smalltime 5 жыл бұрын
C Spann well if pask doesn’t want it let me know :)
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you - glad you liked it! I love hand cutting dovetails, this is just an alternative. :)
@l.george7517
@l.george7517 4 жыл бұрын
Since I have a mortiseing tool, this will be my goto joint, I love it. Harbor Freight sells a cheep mortiseing machine that is perfect for this.
@SeahawkSailor
@SeahawkSailor 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent again! With your metal working skills, you could easily make the drill press mount for the mortise bit, and improve the drill press wobble.
@EitriBrokkr
@EitriBrokkr 5 жыл бұрын
Its impressive no ones ever come up with this before
@billybobjoe198
@billybobjoe198 5 жыл бұрын
The half blind pask peg joint. It was a good joint.
@taiqidong9841
@taiqidong9841 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, thx big time for the mortising bit trick! Cheers mate, from up above!
@davomontgomeryda3rd
@davomontgomeryda3rd 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Hey another simple idea for making the template... just cut a bunch of 1/4 & 3/8 inch wide strips plywood, mdf, etc. and glue up the strips like a cutting board, 1/4 followed by 3/8, followed by 1/4 and so on, then just leave a 3/8 gap in your 3/8 strips and you’ll create your template with a row of square holes. Another idea is to cut a simple box/ finger joint using a quick box joint jig with 3/8 in cuts, 3/8 inch deep every 1/4 inch.. so the box joint fingers are 1/4 inch... after you cut your box joint, then just glue a 1/4 inch piece of wood across the top of your box/ finger joint and you’ll have an evenly spaced, row of nice square holes to use for your template.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
I thought about gluing strips and that would've been the next step if my method failed. Using finger joints is a good idea too. :)
@emm_arr
@emm_arr 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to say it's like cinema film, but I now think this should be called the Pask joint!
@warrenmunn3224
@warrenmunn3224 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched a video from EngelsCoachShop and he was using a Bit of the same style to drill out large mortises, it might be worth messaging them to ask about how it's mounted in the drill press. Brilliant joint, looks great and I'm guessing the Pask Joint would be not only stylish but strong as well. I love that you show your balls-ups, so many channels show everything perfectly yet they MUST make some mistakes (we all do).
@Cradley684
@Cradley684 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Neil, called it the PASK Joint why not , have a nice day Mate !!!.
@rossmckenzie1854
@rossmckenzie1854 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done Neil. Now I have no excuse for not trying either of the two square hole drills that I bought on a whim through eBay.
@frankstofle3785
@frankstofle3785 5 жыл бұрын
Your are No bull crap woodworker. I just love watching the videos.
@thewoodshop69
@thewoodshop69 5 жыл бұрын
That is a million dollar idea.
@MrPotato2
@MrPotato2 5 жыл бұрын
Damn good looking Pask joint you got there.
@hugobose2254
@hugobose2254 5 жыл бұрын
Looks great as per Pask
@torinhalsey6313
@torinhalsey6313 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting joint, beautiful and simple, but Holy Cow! I just followed the link to your art photography page. Gorgeous work! I didn't realize you were a gifted photographer in addition to being a great woodworker/teacher.
@renierbonthuyzen9703
@renierbonthuyzen9703 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome joint. Well done. Absolutely love your channel.
@rustypine7634
@rustypine7634 5 жыл бұрын
Cool video man. Good luck with the Makers Mob venture. 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Alan! :)
@Incandescentiron
@Incandescentiron 4 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of square pegs, which look amazing. I love it.
@YouGumppy
@YouGumppy 5 жыл бұрын
Your jib for cutting the squares is a sort of box-joint jig. This could be an "outside the box joint"
@jcrm05
@jcrm05 4 жыл бұрын
Very impressive. Pask joint for sure.
@negotiableaffections
@negotiableaffections 5 жыл бұрын
Another sprinkling of genius, Neil and it looks a lot classier than 'good ole' dovetails anyday!
@scottsaunders8024
@scottsaunders8024 5 жыл бұрын
I do multiple through tenons, wedged, for drawer backs on my highest end pieces
@jacklarson6281
@jacklarson6281 5 жыл бұрын
Knapp Joint vs. Dove Tail Joint vs. The Pask Joint strength tests... ya gotta do it man..., before Mathias does... 🔨
@lv_woodturner3899
@lv_woodturner3899 5 жыл бұрын
Looks good. Well done. The Knapp joint is more decorative, but this square pin joint looks to be stronger and looks to be easier to make. If you were in the US I would send you my Delta mortise attachment for a drill press. It does not fit on my Powermatic floor standing drill press. I tried this once on a bench style drill press where it did fit. I was not able to get the chisel to make the cut. I even tried pre-drilling most of the hole first. Still not able to create sufficient force on the small drill press. This now is used to collect dust, a task for which it excels. Dave.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Dave! I've always known the mortising attachments for the drill press aren't too good but mine worked surprisingly well. I found it best to apply a little pressure, back off and let the chips clear then go again. It takes a little longer but it doesn't get clogged that way. I'm not sure I would've even tried this if I didn't have the bit sitting there. :)
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 4 жыл бұрын
That's an unusual and interesting joint! Love how it looks! Now for a different (cheat) approach to the construction: - Make half lap joint and glue it - Use mortising bit to drill square holes to joint, through both pieces of wood - Make square pegs to match holes and insert them with glue - Sand and you're done You can even have different spacings and crooked alignments and it will always work, because both sides are drilled simultaneously :-)
@seanfyodorovich5230
@seanfyodorovich5230 4 жыл бұрын
Simply brilliant!! I'm definitely going to be using the Pask Joint for future projects!!
@neonexus1955
@neonexus1955 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Neil, In the video you said that the bit wobbles too much to use it to make a mortise & tenon joint. However it should be possible to make a simple template for mortises, in the same way that you made the one for these joints. Great work - love your channel!!
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Yes you're absolutely right and I did mean to mention that but forgot! :)
@anatolyartgarage7449
@anatolyartgarage7449 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you colleague for the wonderful master class! Now I know which way to focus on in my workshop
@sbjennings99
@sbjennings99 5 жыл бұрын
I call this joint Awesome and a very good idea
@РоманСергеев-ъ6н
@РоманСергеев-ъ6н 5 жыл бұрын
Great job. Very beautiful
@davidmathieson8661
@davidmathieson8661 5 жыл бұрын
A half-blind through tenon, was taught in college it doesn't really matter how many tenons you have you can just call it a tenon joint...but if you want to get fancy add a value for how many, for the one in the vid it would be a half-blind through penta(or quinta whichever rolls for you) tenon
@Ding_Bat
@Ding_Bat 4 жыл бұрын
I would call it the “you-have-too-much-time-on-your-hands-but-perfect” joint. Or, seeing that I’m from the future, the “COVID-lockdown” joint seems more apt. Love it!!
@hoamai2734
@hoamai2734 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work man! Keep it up. Much enjoyed.
@ocarontigerblood1111
@ocarontigerblood1111 4 жыл бұрын
nice, love the joint though do wonder about the jigs, if you used your router to drive half way through the template in one direction on one side then 90 degrees off on the other direction you would save a lot of time and effort to get a very accurate template, if you then used that to hold the square part you wouldnt need the top brace, add a pin you can drop though and you have a 2 hole jig that can be used quickly for any number of holes, my vote would go for a lapped mortis joint
@clydebalcom8252
@clydebalcom8252 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic idea.
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 5 жыл бұрын
If the template were thicker, you could start the square of the mortise bit down inside, before turning on the drill press. No arm up against the drill press post needed.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
That's how I did the first test but when the bit comes back out it starts spinning. And there's no way you'll pull that bit out gently to stop before it comes out of the template, it takes a little force to pull it out. That isn't really a problem but it's much nicer having it stay in position and as I said you only need to put vice grips on it. :)
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 5 жыл бұрын
Safety first.
@tsuchang1
@tsuchang1 5 жыл бұрын
Yer amazing! Thanks for the videos.
@jacknicholls10
@jacknicholls10 5 жыл бұрын
Love it.... just a normal and casual days work. I'm going to destroy the entire mortice drill industry. Absolutely fantastic. The more and more I watch, the more I'm sucked in. Good work man!
@mark2talk2u
@mark2talk2u 5 жыл бұрын
How about “half-blind square pintail” ? Unless you want you name attached.
@richardvinzant4103
@richardvinzant4103 5 жыл бұрын
If you were to make the top piece of the fence out of metal and cut the opening the width of of the mortise chisel you could just adjust the drill press table up so it was always guiding the mortise chisel and you wouldn’t need the template.
@SoundAssault
@SoundAssault 5 жыл бұрын
More awesomeness - nice one! 👍
@-grandsonofcarpenter5987
@-grandsonofcarpenter5987 4 жыл бұрын
How beautiful it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@steffens5122
@steffens5122 5 жыл бұрын
Very very nice joint.
@lexboegen
@lexboegen 5 жыл бұрын
Call it "cube tails"? Very nice!
@ronmichaelsen3983
@ronmichaelsen3983 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a blind inset finger joint? Fantastic ingenuity!
@SMee67
@SMee67 5 жыл бұрын
Bloody brilliant, mate. 👍🏽
@TheLindsay720
@TheLindsay720 5 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! Such a fan.
@CraveCraft
@CraveCraft 5 жыл бұрын
As always love your creativity/ingenuity!
@DONphantasmo
@DONphantasmo 5 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely brilliant... great job as usual!!!!
@yoshr14989
@yoshr14989 5 жыл бұрын
Pask joint. Going once. Twice. Pask joint it is.
@thelosttexan1717
@thelosttexan1717 5 жыл бұрын
Thats what im talkin about from the last vid. Thanks
@steliosstavrinides3502
@steliosstavrinides3502 5 жыл бұрын
Pask's Quarter Blind Square Joint... it has a good sound in it !!! :) :) :)
@NYWoodworker
@NYWoodworker 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video!!!
@Xtreme543
@Xtreme543 5 жыл бұрын
Very clean results;)
@bsanders0723
@bsanders0723 5 жыл бұрын
I think... when people comment and say that would take a long time to make the jigs, what they really mean is it would take a long time to come up with the idea to make the jig and figure out the particulars. The actual act of making a jig isn't very time consuming.
@PaskMakes
@PaskMakes 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly right Benjamin! When I show how I got to that point it starts looking like a lot of work but when you think about just making the jigs, it really isn't. :)
@leehaelters6182
@leehaelters6182 5 жыл бұрын
@@PaskMakes, with all respect to your inventiveness and skill, I still think that you are a trifle optimistic on time to make the jigs. Maybe after you've made scores.
@justin1730
@justin1730 5 жыл бұрын
That would look awesome if you used hexagons in place of squares, and used it to build a langstroth bee hive. I would keep the center holes round though. Like a hexagonal knapp joint.
@393strokedcoupe
@393strokedcoupe 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always! I'll have to try the Pask Joint.
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