HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN PREMIUM QUALITY SPEAKER CABLES!!

[@user-wp9rq3kb6h]

As someone who is qualified in electrical and electronic engineering and has worked in electrical and electronic assembly, I can categorically state you don't need to, and should not solder that connection. Connections are either soldered connections or a crimp/clamp connection not both as it leads to unreliable joints. The correct joint for the application and done correctly is the best joint. In that banana plug there are two screws one for the electrical connection and the other for the wire sheath for strain relief, there should be no copper visible in the cutout. The cut out is probably there to make sure the wire is stripped and inserted correctly not for you to add solder. The heat shrinkable tube is: Heat Shrink tube.

[@TechnoDad]

LOL! Your dog took off with the speaker pants! Great video man! Love it!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

I found the speaker pants. She nosed them under the sub.

[@railerswim]

I’m moving next week so I’m definitely gonna do this when I set my home theater back up.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Yeah, it takes time but well worth it!

[@user-xh2qi7tn2l]

Monoprice 14AWG квадро можно соединять по диагонали а можно боковые , как лучше для звука?

[@chuck5761]

One note, since you left the conductors unpaired on the speaker end, you dropped your gauge for the speaker's woofers back down to 14ga. Your point about the pair of 14ga being effectively 11ga is only true if you link them at both ends.

[@onemandiy]

Awesome build! I wasn't a big fan on that particular locking type of banana plugs when I reviewed them, I found them hard to tighten. What do you think after using them a while?

[@user-wp9rq3kb6h]

If you mean difficult to access for tighten that maybe. Just a note for all. I know many people (myself included when I started) tend to over tighten the clamp/screw connectors flattening and crushing the conductors too much increasing the possibility of fracture and failure. Ultimately that really expensive thick cable you have bought could, quite literally, be hanging on and connected by just a few threads. It's best to buy a quality (not expensive) connector, find the correct torque settings and use a torque driver. This is also another reason for the strain relief to be added.

[@daddykiller5835]

I'm thinking about bi-wirering 12 awg wire to my speakers with banana plugs, I think the plugs won't be able to except 2/ 12 ga wires. I might have to solder 2 wires to 1 wire in order for it to work? Thanks for the wiring tips. 👍

[@smooththedj5144]

Hey man this is by far the best speaker cable video I’ve seen. What size speaker pants would you recommend to cover the 4 C wire ?

[@dmptcb]

I purchased mediabridge 12ga 100 foot speaker wire in 2016 I had 30 feet left took my roll out from my basement workshop and I started to peel back the wire and the red had small slits in the wire from being stored on that round roll for 6 years so I went back 2 plus feet on the wire and it still had small cuts in the wire showing the copper wire has anyone had this problem? And is it from being stored on that round roll?

[@alangeorgebarstow]

Cutting through the outside plastic cable sheathing is quick and simple if you invest in a surgical scalpel (preferably one with a concave blade) and use it with care.

[@user-wp9rq3kb6h]

Better yet use a Cyclops cable stripper.

[@alexandsimba]

You just blew my mind on the 4 conductor cable. 😁 I have actually run into this problem since I now have 4 cables running on hooks on my drop ceiling for my 7.1 setup. I can see this being very helpful for when I add in-ceiling on account of them being close to each other. What I am curious about is using this for the back speakers, but what can you use to hide colored cables once you split them up?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

alexandsimba legrand wiremold. I did a video on it.

[@alexandsimba]

Can you take that off without damaging the wall? I am still experimenting with the speaker locations.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yes but I would say do the wiremold last once you get it all final. there is sticky adhesive on the back that will wear out if you stick it and un stick it several times. Doesnt damage the wall either! and you can paint it if you want.

[@AntonioGarcia-xk6jd]

if you where to buy a speaker that can be identical on all channels minus the center channel & Sub's of course , for a 7.2.6 speaker surround setup. choosing (3) different ((( 1st, 2nd , 3rd place ))) pre-build's & (3) D.I.Y from Part Express what would you're recommendations be. can you include 3 chooses from both category's for the budget / value person in mind ...

[@voodoo9077]

Looks clean. Hair dryer works as good as a heat gun.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Voodoo dang. I should have thought of that. Using a lighter like a dang caveman

[@boodybandit]

Wire by fire.... LOVE IT! Thx for another great video THTD!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

hahahah I should have titled the video that!

[@Anth4044]

I really like that blue tech flex you have on the smaller 2 conductor wire

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

amzn.to/2QfyWvY here ya go. i forgot to add it back in when I updated the description last time.

[@Anth4044]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude There you go that's what I wanted thanks again!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🔊🔊😁

[@odanne29]

Awesome video, gonna try bi-wire cables..

[@audiophilipp]

why do u go with double wire per 1 banana ?

[@Srenteria912]

Great video! What size cable pants should I use for 14 AWG 4 conductor? Also, what size heat shrink did you use? Thank you!

[@AndrewB23]

You're not suppose to let the flame touch the heat shrink, just get the flame near it

[@theredon2]

I used to make mine too. I used the same red speakers pants. I also made four conductor all wire twist. I just take a lot of time

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

This video took forever to shoot! haha.

[@theredon2]

That Home Theater Dude hahaha that’s why I gave up making my own cables

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yeah. super tedious but meticulous people will enjoy them

[@theredon2]

That Home Theater Dude I don’t remember. Do you have blue jeans cables?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Nope. getting some soon though. I only want their interconnects

[@tech4life884]

Your not supposed to actually put the flame of the lighter onto the shrink tubing. Your supposed to use the lighter about 5-7" away from the shrink tubing because it only needs the heat. Not the flame.

[@hi-fihaven2257]

Cool video man! Great work!

[@hamidnia7242]

What’s your shielding strategy? I was wondering..

[@onemorething100]

Would just 16 AWG 2 conductor wire work for a 2 speaker hook up? Does 2 wires to each Banana Plug improve sound?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

nope.

[@MrSuperman258401]

Can't wait to watch after work

[@joetiongson367]

This locking banana plugs do I need to solder them or just use the attached screws to tighten

[@francisorig1767]

I wish you can make me a pair of those bi-amp wires 😉😋

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Send me money!!!

[@francisorig1767]

Really? You willing to make me a pair Chris?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Yeah buddy! how long you need?

[@francisorig1767]

I’ll send you a FB message later on Chris

[@babycatshifinvinyl6411]

What is the red snake skin looking thingy you put the white wire into again?

[@babycatshifinvinyl6411]

ok tech flex :)

[@taxi615]

I was wondering is there a solution to shield wires from amps. Since I installed my new amp I'm getting crackles snaps from a couple speakers I've tried putting my wires as far as possible to the amps 20A plug but I'm still getting interference not as bad but maybe you ran into this from all the installations.

[@jimmytatro11]

Is monoprice copper clad Aluminum ?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

i dont know. i only use mediabrige. its 99.99% ofc copper

[@buildify9593]

The one I got was just copper, it’s 12 gauge 2 conductor www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=301&cp_id=30109&cs_id=3010901&p_id=3844&seq=1&format=2

[@Marzen216]

Timely find, this was on my short list of cheap projects to complete. Now if I can just get my 13 yo to do the work.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Haha. Cheap labor.

[@leosibbi1818]

Super Job, You are a Master

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

haha not yet. Im still learning everyday

This is interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

yep. Anytime

[@mrmoon7484]

superb audio setup

[@joetiongson367]

Where can I buy the locking banana plus?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

amazon :)

[@joetiongson367]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Thank. Another thing should I solder the wire or just tighten the screws?

[@nicknasty06]

TIP: The "goofy little wire" is a string used to cut through the wire jacket. When you cut the outside jacket as you did, you risk cutting the inside wire's jacket.

[@stevetech5150]

at least if you have to send your washer or dryer back for repairs you can use your SVS sub box. 🤣

[@5thpixel]

Beautiful pups!!!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Which one?

[@5thpixel]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude all of them! PS, great vid! Now you made me want to create my own cables for fun! Keep up the great work. Btw, I don't watch vids in order, so not sure where you are with speakers. Do you still have Klipsch or did you switch fully to SVS? And regrets or no?

[@kixxoff928]

Hey! What is the thickness of this Mediabridge cable? I mean the white part under techflex.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

??

[@kixxoff928]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude sorry dude, I'm not an English native speaker :) just trying to understand what is the thickness of the cable you are using in this video.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

not really sure, this was filmed almost 2 years ago. Its pretty much the same size as with the shielding. thats only a mm or so.

[@girishbhandari]

Hi great DIY video. I am in the middle of doing the same for my speaker wire. I am also using the same Mediabridge 12 AWG wire. If you don't mind can you tell me what are the sizes of 1)TechFlex 2)Cable Pants 3)Heat Shrink Tube ?. I want to make sure i order the right size. Thanks. Keep posting more videos.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

1/4 inch tech flex. if you checkout speaker pants on amazon they are the only ones that come up. they are all the same size. I ordered an assortment pack of heat shrink. its only like 5 bucks

[@joemcsweeney3923]

Great video. I had the same question about tech flex size for the 12 AWG wire because a video from someone else recommended 3/8, so thanks for clarifying

[@marcoantoniomlina]

You dont need to cut the shielding that long you can cut about an inch of the shielding and use that white string to cut thru the shielding..Thats the purpose of that white string inside the cable jaz an info..great video though

[@Anth4044]

Great vid by the way 👍👍

[@scottsatterfield703]

Good work buddy!

[@tazoriginal]

What size cable pants did you use for the 12 gauge mediabridge 2 conductor wire?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

no idea. there was only one version when I ordered.

You would need hell of an soldering iron to solder them.

[@bembowe]

THTD, great video. How did you make the Y heatshrink. Did you purchase that on Amazon as well. It gives the install a very clean look

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

its called speaker wire pants. i got them on amazon.

[@tommyparks387]

Very Cool, what you’re doing with the cables! I have a quick question, I just got some 16awg is that too big for rewiring speakers? I want to kick it up a little.. One other question, going to be using banana on one side and there’s a post on the speakers, What’s the best way to deal with that? I m really trying to improve the sound and Sorry for the bother but I would appreciate it, thanks

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Should be fine with the 16 gauge. Im not actually sure what you are asking on the second question

[@mariocassar3117]

Thanks, very professional, and now you have a $500 cable!

[@LeeTanczos]

I would avoid to touch the bare copper with my hands / fingers since that seems to make it tarnish super quickly. I also like low mass bananas made from gold plated beryllium copper not brass ones made from several pieces. I was looking for a way to make cotton insulation for speaker wires, possibly for solid copper or silver conductors.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Good idea about prolonged touching the copper.

[@Samjac811]

Would the heat wrapping negate soldering if you moved them up hire on the screw mechanism?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

No a chemical and pysical bond is preferred with any sound connection.

[@user-wp9rq3kb6h]

This connection should not be solded at all that's why it has a screw clamp. It has two screws: one for the electrical connection and one for strain relief which should clamp the the wire and the sheathing if you can get the heat shrink over the wires and in to the strain relief clamp you can do that as long as the sheath is still gripped. Soldering in this situation can cause more problems than it solves; I've seen and repaired the failures cause by it. If you want to work with electrics please read up from educational sources and manufacturers documents for correct procedures.

[@gildragon]

You said that you don't have a heat gun, but isn't that a heat gun on the right side of your table?

[@BWWGL9]

What "SIZE" ...(Tech Flex), did you use over the (4) Conductor Wire.... which you said was 11 awg ?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

3/8th. The 14 X4 if stranded together in pairs is equal to an 11 guage set of wire.

[@tenniscolombia9940]

Gracias, por este video. Thanks for this video, help me a lot.

[@benitocardenas286]

Awesome video.. Thxs

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Anytime

[@MS-np6hv]

Nice video Did I see speaker wire under a doormat at your front door🤨🤨

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

sho do. We dont plan on keeping the house so I never worried about fishing the wires through the walls

[@Viettzz]

So what is the size for the speaker pants for this Mediabridge 4 conductor cable?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

3/8s

[@Viettzz]

Do you know the SVS Ultra speaker cable? Where can I get a similar braided sleeving? I checked out those Techflex sleeve and it doesn't look like the one from the SVS Ultra cable...

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

i use tech flex. you can get it on amazon.

[@vipz2007]

What braided size need for 14awg 2 cunductor wire?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

1/4 should be fine

[@ZERO-CAPACITANCE]

B-roll ...please...love the material but I want to see close ups during the dead space...

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

you do realize this was filmed 2 years ago right?

[@ZERO-CAPACITANCE]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude for your next one

[@Davinderbys64]

Hi ... When making speakers cables should all the lengths be the same. Say one of my surround speakers is 10 feet and the other 14 feet away due to recesses in my room. Do I make two 14 foot cables so that they are identical?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

David Seals the lengths don’t matter. That’s the reason why you run calibration. It gives you speaker distances and adjusts the latency for the signal. I don’t foresee there being a need to have the same distances for speakers of such short distances. Use whichever length you need plus a little more just in case you ever move them.

[@user-wp9rq3kb6h]

Rule of thumb, all front speakers same cable length, all middle speakers same cable length, all rear speakers the same length. That means the font middle and rear speakers can have different lengths as long as the groups have the same length. Though the reality is you won't notice a fractional difference in length. The calibration will take care of the required delay for your listening position.

[@sarfrazally6575]

The Svs cable and the ones you made how is the sound . Have you tested them

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

I only have svs subwoofer cable. Im sure their soundpath speaker wires sound great too. they can make them in OHIO not overseas like most companies

[@nathanmuller5753]

Would you happen to know what size TechFlex to use if you want to make make 14/4 cables?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

3/8 worked pretty good

[@nathanmuller5753]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Thanks for the response. the 3/8", is that what you used for your 14/2 (2 conductors) in the video or have you made 14/4 (four conductor) cables as well. Enjoy the videos, thanks.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

@@nathanmuller5753 I had 1/4 and 3/8ths at the time i filmed. I used 3/8 for the 14X4 and 1/4 for the 12/2. Hope that helps

[@nathanmuller5753]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Thanks bro

[@achn2b]

I hate the look of heat shrink over the vinyl speaker pants. If you're using the pants, you really don't need to heat shrink them, the pants should stay in place. If they are a bit loose on the cable, do a couple wraps of electrical tape on the cable underneath the pants.

[@j_1846]

What is a good amp for a home theater

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

outlaw. crown, NAD, Adcom, Parasound. Most integrated amps are similar and will last forever

[@sarfrazally6575]

How is your 2 conductor sounds and r those 12 guage

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

12 sounded great I still use the 12 for my surrounds and rear surrounds. I use 14 for all heights and 11 for the LCR. They all sound amazing

[@angelboy12]

Are you that home theater dude 🤓🔊 I wish I would made those cables I am using basic probably not best wires For my speakers. Can you tell me the name and kind of wires to get on amazon that you got. I really love to have better wiring. And what tools. Thanks 🙏🔊🔊🔊

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Angel london mediabridge! All the links are in the description

[@angelboy12]

That Home Theater Dude ok thanks 🙏

[@adamcbowen1]

Where did you get the speaker pants on the blue cable? It looks like what svs uses on there cables.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

adamcbowen1 audioquest speaker pants on amazon. They are a little pricey but they were on prime. You can get 10 for the price of 4 if you go off brand and don’t mind waiting for shipping.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Whoops. You were asking about the speaker pants. I bought a multi colored heat shrink kit for 7 bucks. Has a bunch of colors in there.

[@adamcbowen1]

Thanks, ordered the 10 pack, and some Sewell banana plugs using your link :) Looking forward to the SVS elevation and tower review.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Woooeee! Adam you rock man!

[@IliyaOsnovikov]

Good cables have OFC cooper and Teflon wire insulation (TFE is better than PFE). Foamed polypropylene insulation is also OK.

[@EdWilsonPhoto]

heat shielding??

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

heat shrink.

[@ChildofTruth1]

On your sub what are the levels on the sub and what are the levels on your amp. My SVS seems to be weak (receiver levels) -0. My sub levels are at -10

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

-10 gain on the sub and -5.5 on the AVR. No subwoofer trim and I use the DSP on the 4000. Do you have your sub trim turned off?

[@ChildofTruth1]

where would I find that on a Denon?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Go to audio from the settings menu and it should be the first one on there. Its the on display menu. so make sure you're on that to navigate to it.

[@ChildofTruth1]

Sorry for being a bug but I don't see it. I have a denon 4400h. Under audio I have the option of Dialog level adjust and then subwoofer level adjust. I think you mentioned in one of your videos that you have the same receiver

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Setup>Audio>>Subwoofer level adjust. You want this to be off easy peasy lemon squeezy

[@MrPimpJuiice]

Is that sony x85c series!? Great tv!

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

good eye my man. xbr 850c

[@MrPimpJuiice]

That Home Theater Dude the last from 2015 that received HDR update, nice, but sadly not as bright as it should be to reach the full potencial

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Yeah i was a little disappointed by the 850c. Previous models of the xbr were much better. They kind of threw out the 850c before they had everything optimized

[@IliyaOsnovikov]

I am not sure you can just clamp a stranded wire with such set screws and get a good reliable connection.

[@user-wp9rq3kb6h]

As someone who is qualified in electrical and electronc engineering and has done electronic/electrical assembly I can assure you that using the correct torque on the grub screw with adequate strain relief is the correct and most reliable way of makeing this connection. If a joint was intende to be soldered it would have a solder bucket or pad and no screw connection, except for the strain relief. Tinning the wire will make a clamp/crimp connection less reliable. Mains plugs do not and should not have tinned wires; the uk the wiring regs state you can not use soldered connection for mains as the heat cycling will cause a failure. Soldering Low voltage e.g. PCBs is ok as it's not subject to the same heat cycles.

[@IliyaOsnovikov]

@@user-wp9rq3kb6h Quite often, when cooper bare wire with thin strands is clamped directly with a screw, that screw just smashes a wire and cuts thru it's strands. There are two ways to avoid that situation. 1. To use a crimp-on ferrule to protect wire strands. 2. To use a wire clamp that has some metal plate between a screw and a wire and/or wire cage. But for any high current applications I prefer good crimping connection.

[@andrewspoon2179]

nice pibble

[@MrSuperman258401]

Should have made a couple 6ft cables and gave them away lol

[@Anth4044]

Is it 3/8 tech flex for sure for the 4 conductor wire ?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

3/8 is the red one. the blue is 1/4. Pro tip. always order more than what you think you need

[@Anth4044]

@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Ok I sure will thanks again truly appreciated 🔊🔊🔊🎶🎶

[@mendiesel7932]

I Like the set up. Wish I had the room for them 4000s. Ended up with pc2000s and they do the trick. Curious, are you happy with the 12 ga wire?

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

12ga is plenty. You dont need more unless you're running really long (>50ft) per speaker. Whoever tells you differennt is trying to take your money. How you like the PC-2000? I like the idea of thee space saving. I have a tube in my car a long long time ago and it sounded great!

[@mendiesel7932]

That Home Theater Dude I’m with you on the gauge myths. There is no discernible improvement on running thicker wire for short runs. I decided to go with some overkill though. Bought soow rated cable 10ga/4 conductor. Did basically the same thing you did and tech flexed it and used banana plugs. I have my towers bi-amped.However for me this was purely for aesthetics. My wires are totally exposed for about 2’ across the front wall in both directions and that super thick wire looks pretty cool compared to something a bit thinner. But yea I’m really happy with the pc2000s. As with everything that svs makes, they are top notch. It was the perfect balance of space conscious, sound, and WAF. Liking the videos. Keep it up. Would like to see an update on how you are liking the outlaws. Thinking of getting a 5000 and use it to run my center and bi amp my two mains. Again, overkill.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Yeah outlaw videos were really popular I need to give them more love. If i were to do it over I would get 2 5000s instead of the arcam or maybe even the 7140. Glad you have a warrior spirit concerning overkill. I do too. Hence the Rambo knife and the Ka-Bar! haha.

[@mendiesel7932]

That Home Theater Dude if I could post an image in this I’d show off the handy work with the wires. But them 2200 ain’t no slouch.. I’d do 4 of them bad boys in a heartbeat but for the money.. 5000s are sweet. That 7140 is pretty sweet too.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Yeah obviously I would keeo my 2200s for the LCR just get two 5000s for every thing else. Who knows maybe I'll be going 13 channel in the future. Right now I only have 10 channels externally driven. So really i just use 2 internally driven speakers until I get more externals. Show them pics homie!

[@MasterRandyHopkins]

Good video, but this thing about oxygen free copper producing less distortion is total nonsense. I am an electrical engineer and I'm telling everyone watching this video don't fall for the bullshit. The biggest concerned with running any speaker wire connection is total resistance. Unless you're running 100 plus feet speaker cable from your amplifier to the crossover voice coil Etc,there will be no noticeable difference in sound quality or power output. 14 gauge copper wire is sufficient... And no it doesn't matter if it's solidcore or braided. Don't fall for that bullshit either. Don't fall for all this pseudoscience nonsense when it comes to speaker cables and interconnects. Not saying that the host of this video Falls for all that, but when he mentions using oxygen free copper to get less distortion that makes me wonder.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

You get less resistance using OFC as comparred to CCA speaker wires. Thats all I was trying to say. If i said distortion then I misspoke.

[@bigglefty75]

thanks bud

[@tobyhines7587]

Did not realize it at the time got some copper clad wire from Amazon so I'm using a mix of wires now.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Toby Hines gasp!!

[@beastscinema3964]

👍

[@labyrinthzero3427]

under no circumstances turn the drill !!! what kind of people are they ?! you rip and stretch microwaves! don't believe me? take a marker and draw a line along the entire cable before twisting, and after twisting, make sure HOW the vein turned out a dozen times! Not only is it twisted, each cable is twisted with veins in one direction by the manufacturer, if you twist it yourself in the opposite direction, the weave will weaken and the air will get there and oxidize faster! And if you twist in one direction with the manufacturer, then the veins will simply break! didn't it come into the world by itself?

[@almirdesousa5595]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@pooter4e552]

You still making your own cables?

[@markray6823]

Do you actually like that music?

[@ptrmatchett]

Too many ‘go aheads’ wrecking the video

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

Go ahead and watch the video again. I would appreciate it.

[@kevonmanuel]

I've watched about 100 "Make your own premium speaker Cables" videos and guess what, They are all the same. Nothing special in making cables anymore.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

NewYorkBlack so make some already buddy.

[@kevonmanuel]

I'm gangsta.. I only do bare wire lamp cords.

[@ThatHomeTheaterDude]

dang. That IS gangsta