HOW TO: Measure 5-Lug wheel bolt pattern

[@OverTheEdge68]

This was the missing information I required as I kept coming up with a 4.75" measurement. Finally a direct to the point video with the needed explanations of the "hows and whys". Excellent! Thanks!

[@DrayaLafleur]

😊😊

[@rys2134]

Measure from outside left hole, to centre of the right side hole, saves adding the 1/4 inch. When measuring 4, 6 and 8 bolt wheels measure directly across the circle, where as 5 cannot be. Metric conversion to standard can also help. Eg. 5x114.3mm = 5x4.5in 5x100 is easier to get exact with a millimetre ruler rather then 5x3.94in.

[@Ox-Plays]

Someones getting a little behind on sweeping in the shop it seems.....

[@Vool2go]

lol

[@josequintero4034]

😂

[@lliew7827]

Depending on the hole size. If you measure from centre to centre, then you have to add 1/2 of the diameter of the bolt hole. Or measure from the outside edge of one hole to the centre of the other hole.

[@BobZed]

Probably easier to measure from the center of the first lug to the outside edge of the second one. Then there is no need to add a quarter. And there is no need to be super-accurate here. It's not like you have to make sure you have a 4.5 instead of a 4.48759.

[@german69692007]

True, I hear that's the newer way but as I was younger it was center to center and add a quarter, food for thought.

[@NegatingSilence]

When I looked at the list of possible patterns, I found plenty of ones that were fractions of an inch different

[@qxXsyndromeXxp]

You said to measure from center to center of the holes. I've heard and seen others say that in five lug wheels is from one side of one hole to the center of the other hole. Is that why you add the extra quarter inch?

[@jruss773]

I hate videos that don't get to the point... You made a 6 minute video on something that could have been explained in 30 seconds...

[@swashington942]

you're the dumb bitch who watched it lol

[@austinhankins3367]

My Kung Fu1 my fucking man this guy gets to the point! the internet is unforgiving.

[@NegatingSilence]

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[@german69692007]

Very good Teaching, Went over it quite a bit So normal people can understand. Great Job!!!

[@osos231]

Isn't it supposed to be from the center of one lug, skip one then from the outer edge of the other lug hole??

[@saginaw60]

Wish you would come up with a chart of common sizes, to deal with metric wheels. It is hard to measure one mm. with a ruler.

[@jonathonowensby253]

thanks alot for making this video i was just measuring from center to center on a 5 lug car and it was 4.5 so i ordered 4.5 rims and they were 1/4 off from bolting up. now i know. i will be sending these back to jegs and the time and cost to send them back i will just chalk up to education.

[@-dcoogan-]

Thanks for the video! Had a quick question... If you were to start at the same point in the video, and measure down, in between the two lugs across from it, the ruler would hit the black line at exactly 4.5", right? In order to find the middle point of those two lugs, simply measuring between them and marking the halfway point should suffice? This should work for an exact measurement, correct? At any rate, thank you very much for a solid, quality video.

[@Cotronixco]

Why try to measure anything center to center? Measure edge to edge. It's easier and much more accurate. Also, adding 1/4" is inaccurate and will give you only a rough estimate. If you want accuracy, measure from left edge of any hole to the left edge of an adjacent hole, and multiply by 1.70. Or you can measure to the second hole over, and then multiply by 1.04.

[@dtrrtd774]

Cotronixco Is the 1.04 mathematically exact? That seems like the correct method for compensation but trying to see what the exact scaling should be just out of curiosity. Might have to apply some trigonometry to it to find out, otherwise. I'm sure it's been worked out before, just haven't seen it yet.

[@felixfong6532]

@@dtrrtd774 The formula is 2 / square root of (2(1-cosine theta)) where theta is 72 degrees if adjacent or 144 degrees if 2 lug holes away. Base on the formula, a more accurate answer will be 1.05146222424.

[@killer2600]

@@felixfong6532 It's easier reduced to 1 / Sin(72). You can even replace 1 with your 2-lug hole away measurement and get your diameter calculation that much quicker: Center-to-Center / Sin(72) = Bolt pattern diameter. Likewise if you measure between adjacent holes substitute Sin(72) with Sin(144).

[@williamhardin5254]

@@killer2600 Come on. Measure to the outside of the 2 holes and subtract the diameter of you bolt hole, or measure to the inside of the 2 holes and add the diameter of the bolt hole. That way you can use a standard 6 inch scale and end up with an accurate measurement. Don't forget to add the quarter inch for the overall bolt circle.

[@killer2600]

@@williamhardin5254 Some bolt patterns are metric and 115 is awfully close 110. Do you want to rule of thumb it or do you want to be as accurate as possible when you have to order the chosen wheels and return shipping has to be paid by yourself and/or a restocking fee is charged. Whatever you decide to do, the math I gave is accurate so it's not my fault you find it tedious to punch numbers on the calculator you always have in your pocket - your smart phone.

[@Traderhood]

So how do you calculate diameter of that circle?

[@Zionson1]

So after you add 4 1/4 +1 1/4 of an inch it's 4 1/2" .if I understood if correctly?

[@bernadettemcquillan6752]

Will my ford fiesta2020 alloy wheel fit a suzuki swift 2012

[@bricknmotor]

What's the tolerance on bolt patterns?

[@i8yotacos200]

So for a 1994 chevy c1500 the bolt pattern would be 5 on 5?

[@Tendollarplugins]

Good video. I completely forgot how to do this. Thanks

[@davidsuarez1716]

So what is that bolt pattern on that rim you have there

[@charlie15627]

Thank you That’s exactly what I needed to know

[@haganblount2626]

This video does not tell you how to accurately measure a 5 lug wheel bolt pattern. It's a video on how to guesstimate.

[@SnakePliscan]

Are you trying to say Pi/r squared and all that?

[@dtrrtd774]

Adding 1/4" would seem to only apply for a specific range of bolt patterns. I would have expected the correction to be multiplicative rather than additive. Still, this should be good enough to check that it's one pattern vs. one that's significantly off from that.

[@martinrivera3230]

Hagan Blount it tells you exactlly, how to do it, just got to listen carefully, maybe a few times, i'm not beeing funny, i worked at sears installing tires

[@killer2600]

@@martinrivera3230 This is a rule of thumb and is only perfectly accurate for 5.1079 inch diameter bolt patterns. The smaller or larger the diameter goes the farther off from 1/4 inch you get. The formula to find the bolt pattern diameter with the center to center measurement in the video is: center-to-center-measurement / Sin(72). All you need is a scientific calculator which most now carry around daily in the form of a smart phone. For the curious that want to know why the 72: The lugs are spaced 72 degrees apart on the circle that is the bolt pattern.

[@gho5tspartan26yt]

So how do I know if my lug pattern is 5x100

[@johntozer8270]

Just measure the centre of two side by side bolts, for example, if they were numbered around the circle 1to 5 measure 1 and 2 and multiply centre measurement by 1.7021 simple and spot on

[@Tainted_Smile39]

So mine is 5x4and a half..if I add a quarter it would be 5x4and 3 quarter..that can't be right is it

[@Ali-gd2jl]

Very well explained. Thank you for the correct explanation.

[@TheDragonFoodHeir]

It's written like, 5×4-1/2-inch , correct?

[@gilbertodiazcastro8871]

That is great for SAE patterns, how about for Metric patterns? They are so close that adding .25" would not get you where you need to go... Also, you can measure from the edge of one hole to the edge of the other hole and not have to guess if you are reading the exact center or not.

[@R3ViddyProductions]

I'm glad you liked the video! I hope it helped.

[@seekenergywithin4177]

Thanks brother for a detailed video on point.

[@soktheaseng6974]

I thought it was from the end to the center in 5 lug?

[@german69692007]

It is. But He told you to add a quarter

[@martinrivera3230]

Sokthea Seng you would be off 1/4" doing it that way

[@rexhouseo7010]

So you are measuring the diameter of the circle the holes are centered on. If you just said that then it could be applied to any wheel. Mine has 8 lugs so I can just measure the center of one hole to the center of the opposite hole. I think...

[@rogerbrandt6678]

Yes correct.

[@GFBBENNI]

i measured 4 1/4 on my rims so now it’s supposed to be 4 1/2 anyone know the bolt pattern number on that for rim adapters

[@gabrielgrammatico5328]

Your awesome thanks for the lesson your a great teacher

[@tpsullivan7]

S/B = Center of the Rim (Axle Lug) to the center of the lug hole, X 2

[@killer2600]

Yes, but have fun finding the center of the rim when it's a big empty hole.

[@tpsullivan7]

@@killer2600 measure the radius and divide / 2. Add that to the edge of the hole and that's your measurement to the center

[@killer2600]

@@tpsullivan7 Diameter is twice the radius. But again have fun getting straight correct measurements because a 115 mm pattern is different from a 110 mm. So if you're off by as little as 2.5 mm in your measured radius you may order wheels that won't even fit.

[@EpicHeroSandwich]

who the fuck left all those chips on the bridgeport. fired.

[@donweathersbee2863]

the first thing I noticed. U would need waders to get to that

[@ryanlegg9956]

Why do you have to add 1/4"? If its 5x5.25, why would it be called 5x5.5? Why not just 5x5.25? Seams confusing. Thanks!

[@williammueller6639]

because 5.5 is the diameter of the circle that runs thru the middle of each bolt hole and, since there is no 2 bolt holes directly across from each other (like there are on 4, 6, and 8 lug wheels) you need to add 5% to the measurement to get the true diameter.

[@roadwheels1]

William Mueller No, the correct way is to measure from the outside edge of one lug nut hole to the center of the one across from it, no addition needed.

[@agaddy]

William Mueller William Mueller gets the prize! 1/4" is an approximate value in this general range. 5% works for any diameter circle with a 5 way division. Also. adding half the diameter of the lug hole is a crude approximation. Again, when working in this limited range it works out close enough but why not tell it like it is and do the math correctly. I would also like to add that you can measure from the edge of one hole to the edge of another and not have to guess were center is. Use either the left or right side of both holes and the number is always the same for left to left, right to right or center to center.

[@Tewrobert49]

seems so

[@dtrrtd774]

So up above I saw 4%, and here it says 5%. Is there a mathematical proof for the exact value, or are these also an approximation, albeit much closer than the 1/4" offset approximation?

[@xxchroniesiesxx9107]

So 3/4 would be 3 1/2??

[@killer2600]

3-1/4 would be 3-1/2 but this video is only rule of thumb because 3.25 would actually be 3.417. The formula to use is take the center to center measurement (as done in the video) and divide it by Sin(72) on a scientific calculator e.g. 3.25 / Sin(72) = 3.4172....

[@argonaut405]

This is not math. Why not measure form the center of a lug nut to the point of the drawn circle ( that the lug hole were drilled on) directly across skipping one and a half lug nuts, if you will? adding 1/4 of an inch seems arbitrary since the diameter of the lug bolt itself is also a factor.

[@jeanpauldesrochers1303]

Measure like he did ( center to center ) and multiply that measure by * 1.05 *.. Same for METRIC.....This is for 5 bolts pattern only....

[@liquidrush4u]

I love a well used milling machine. Your chip pile beats mine!

[@someguyinhisbasement781]

Just what I needed. Thank you.

[@jcoy3816]

Just a heads up guys. These videos where a school project from a young man in our community. He approached us looking for help for his production class. In no way where they intended to be used here on youtube. He put them on youtube to demonstrate his ability to produce not his ability to teach you all about wheels. He had to produce this video and teach his classmates something. If you need help with bolt patterns, back spacings or anything else we would be more than willing to help anyone. just visit www.coyswheel.com

[@SksToTheMini14]

Center of one stud to center of other across from it and add 1/4".

[@bigallis1]

Thank you James.Easy straight forward how to.

[@Engineerboy100]

Wow, it never fails to amaze me when people that don't know anything want to teach. What a waste of time! You measure the diameter of the circle from the center of one lug hole directly across to the other side of the circle. Dude really!?

[@rogerbrandt6678]

That's what I was taught draw the circle then measure from the centre of one hole and go to your circle and that's the measurement.

[@lewisadventurama5201]

Thanks so much, brother! You helped me alot and this video was very informative! Thanks alot! :) Im subbing.

[@juzzooui7250]

Instead of shooting videos, why don't you grab a brooms and clean your shop up. Damn dude, I would buy nothing from a man who can't keep his shop clean!

[@german69692007]

How do you know He don't have maintenance clean up after each day or himself doing it? Who cares Asshole. You are just jealous YOU wish You had a shop like that.

[@billarroo1]

Tricky !!! 😃😃😃 never knew why my measurements were Never correct. Thanks

[@montrotv9935]

Thanks!! Now I know how to get it right!! 💪🏼

[@R3ViddyProductions]

Thanks for your comment, I'm glad the video was helpful!

[@commonsense1366]

Fuq it where do I buy adapters

[@carleynorthcoast1915]

There are no two people on the internet who agree on measurements so just stamp the goddamn things!

[@scottvrichey]

Video starts at 2:37

[@365tcb]

If you measure it correctly, you measure from the center of the one stud skip one stud and measure to the outside of the following stud and it comes out to 4 1/2, you don't add a 1/4 inch if done correctly! Just saying!

[@german69692007]

Correct way yes but both work

[@killer2600]

That's just another rule of thumb. If you want a calculated precise number, take the measurement as done in the video and divide by Sin(72). A 4-1/2 measurement would calculate to 4.73158. If your pattern is 5x4.5 then the center to center measurement is 4.27975 so measuring it your way just added 0.22 inches which is pretty close to 1/4 (0.25) inch.

[@davidchall4976]

Thanks, that worked for me.

[@menatplaywithballoons7005]

Thx dad

[@douglasnorthpole8542]

Time to clean your shop James!

[@tpsullivan7]

WHY do you ADD 1/4" of an inch, you said you add 1/4" , but WHY? What didi I miss?

[@killer2600]

Because with 5 lug patterns there is no hole directly opposite from any other hole from which to measure the true diameter of the circle (bolt pattern). You have to utilize the farthest distance you can measure and account that the diameter of the pattern is going to be larger than that.

[@kensendelofski3761]

it explained what I needed to know. thank you.

[@HunterRC-hp3ku]

Will a 5x5.5 rim fit a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee lardeo

[@killer2600]

Google is your friend

[@williamhardin5254]

I didn't read all the comments but if you have a 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern than you have a 4.5" bolt pattern simple as that. If you have a 6 on 6 than you have a 6" bolt pattern. The only reason why you would measure at all is if you don't know what the bolt pattern is on your vehicle/wheel. If you want an accurate measurement lay a straight across the middle of 2 studs/holes next to each other than lay your triangle square against the straight edge go to the center of the adjacent stud/hole and read the distance. on a 5 on 4.5 you will read exactly 4.5".

[@german69692007]

You are correct but it's still considered 5

[@killer2600]

That method is extremely inaccurate because circles don't have flat sides. A 5x5 bolt pattern would measure 4.522" with your method a whopping 0.478" of inaccuracy in a supposed "accurate" measurement.

[@williamhardin5254]

@@killer2600 Everyone is right. You just need to understand what a bolt circle is. Please don't order a wheel with a 5 on 4.76 for your Jeep. I wish I could add a PDF drawing but I can't. Correct number between the 2 holes would be 4.76" for a 5 on 5".

[@williamhardin5254]

Here's a link to my dropbox of a cad drawing of 5 on 5" bolt pattern. www.dropbox.com/s/3u64q1cupf2aur3/5%20on%205.pdf?dl=0

[@killer2600]

@@williamhardin5254 Please re-read your post at the beginning of this thread. The method described there does not match your CAD drawing. Your CAD drawing actually matches the video's method of adding a 1/4 inch.

[@jwcautomotiveservice5861]

Thanks for the video it was helpful to me

[@R3ViddyProductions]

Glad it was helpful!

[@eurobilt]

Great video, thank you

[@MrRainbowrooster]

Great video, Thanks for taking the time.

[@Kyle-jb3hr]

holy cow those shavings 😲

[@alejandroochoa2647]

Thanks u save my life

[@sterlinghayes1460]

Everyone that commented must re-watch this video and take a shot whenever he says 5 lug

[@garyp1930]

Great job !!

[@americansteve2917]

Why wouldn't he just say from the edge of a hole, skip a hole, to the center of the next one!?

[@worldizmine3186]

4+ Waisted Minutes. Simple. Measure from one hole to a Skipped Hole

[@R3ViddyProductions]

I'm sorry, but I don't have that information... I just was hired to film and edit the video. Give them a call or post this same comment on their Facebook page. That's what I would suggest to get in contact with them. Best of luck.

[@michaelamundsen6033]

So if it's always + .25 Inch than forget the actual diameter in most cases. So please clarify this goofy math.

[@killer2600]

It's a rule of thumb that's more than accurate enough at 5 and 5.25 in diameters. If you want a more precise formula: take your measurement (as done in the video) and divide it by Sin(72) on a scientific calculator.

[@ericcabedoce9696]

thanks well explained and video very clear. thanks for the good explanation

[@roadwheels1]

The correct way to measure the bolt pattern on a 5 lug wheel is to measure the outside edge of a lug nut hole to the center of the hole across from it. This video is a complete waste of time and puts out misinformation. Why try if you don't know what you're doing?

[@sb18436572]

You are correct.. Thats how I always did it..

[@rogerbrandt6678]

Do you not go from centre to where centre would be.?

[@dtrrtd774]

But what is the hole across from a hole in a 5 bolt pattern? There's one opposite in 4 bolt patterns, but nothing directly opposite when there's an odd number of holes. Measuring to the outside of a lug nut hole is influenced by the hole diameter, which shouldn't be part of the measurement.

[@adambombcreations3542]

Thank you for this video!!!

[@RR-ok4wz]

Thank you so much!,

[@R3ViddyProductions]

You're very welcome, glad to help out!

[@drummerdem50]

Thanks great video

[@donnylinton8419]

WTF , so is it 112mm, 115 , 120 ???

[@german69692007]

Metric lol

[@fredfurrer1035]

This is NOT an accurate measurement, only approximate. Using trigonometry, you will find that taking the C to C measurement of 2 holes (skipping one) and then dividing by 0.9511 (the cosine of 18 degrees) you will get the exact BCD. The C to C for a 5 lug 4.5” BCD is 4.28” (close, but not exactly 4-1/4). Dividing by 0.9511 works for inch or metric measurements. No other way is exact.

[@Cammunist91]

Thanks!

[@alandust2188]

A little lengthy for the content but THANKS!

[@yoogrizzly3054]

Still don’t know

[@americansteve2917]

There is a video that explains this in about 45 seconds, and maybe couldve done it in 35 seconds.....

[@yournextgoalcom7395]

Everyone, please calm down, all you need is a flux capacitor which makes Bolt pattern measurement possible! ....... anyone, anyone what movie?

[@killer2600]

But you have to be going 88 mph. Kind of hard to take measurements at that speed.

[@joecurto4961]

Thanks dude

[@grimreaperosiris5543]

Just make a video how to clean your shop.

[@idontwantgoogleaccounth1833]

The man

[@tamacaterran]

wow thank you so much

[@R3ViddyProductions]

No problem, glad it helped!

[@tobiasgilman4909]

5 bolt..is center to edge

[@killer2600]

That's just another rule of thumb because 1/2" studs would be 1/4" from center to edge. Any lug pattern is center of wheel to center of a lug multiplied by 2.

[@skydogg33]

Just spend $30 for a bolt pattern measuring gauge. Takes seconds.

[@jackassqwe2]

Or just look up the wheel specs of your car

[@davisdecker1968]

Took 6 minutes to explain something that takes 30 seconds lmao

[@my65442]

Damn KZbin must pay by the minute

[@Jamestfarrell]

Where are the actual mechanics on youtube? Some guys say center-to-center! Others say center-to-far edge of opposite stud. Lots of dingbats on youtube begging for clickbait.

[@t.dotguy]

I thought I came here to learn something. My fuck...

[@icarian76]

Do NOT listen to this guy concerning measurements. See other comments on the correct measurement. Or back to the store you will be going....

[@momo-yz4lu]

No help here I’m more confused now than prior to watching this btw not accurate on anything

[@CJBERMUDEZ23]

i hope you are not teaching bc you over explained this video. what took you 4.5min you could of done in 1 min