Siigari Kitawa demonstrates what it takes to move a transport ship through low security space safely using the MicroWarpdrive/Cloak trick.
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@BuRntCircuItz9 жыл бұрын
It is worth noting if there is an interceptor with fast lock activating your mwd before you cloak gives a tackler that split second he needs to catch you. Been using this trick for years ;)
@Mozedo9 жыл бұрын
BuRntCircuItz With all those inertia stabilizers it would be even easier.
@jasonmurphy61267 жыл бұрын
Yea you gotta change it up, mwd/cloak for speed.. cloak/mwd for safety.
@NorthernChev6 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much of this series of cloak and microwarp drive clicks is still relevant after all these years?
@adblock4life1664 жыл бұрын
still used to this day
@leifashley9 жыл бұрын
For the record, you are for sure no longer safe around the trade hubs, JITA in particular... that's why I'm here watching this lol
@natedogbfd7 жыл бұрын
these days i would suggest selecting to overheat the rack for your micro. The Occator now gets an insane bonus for that. Also fitting 3 stabs and only nanos so if they do get lock they will either have to dps to kill in about 8 secs or bump you.
@nigelrequiem6 жыл бұрын
Great video clip sir,I've practised and it works very well in my excellent Crane!
@ElitestPirate11 жыл бұрын
In other words, you don't appreciate having to think up new ways to gank when people outsmart you. You're an absolute genius, you are. A genius, victimized by those cheating carebears and their sneaky adapting.
@Alejandr0183612 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I knew there had to be a way to setup my PI in lowsec.
@SunBearJohn12 жыл бұрын
As an ex-pirate who lived in low-sec for two years, I approve of this.
@glomerul12310 жыл бұрын
You don't mention the T2 cloak, which is a must
@MrAwsome51411 жыл бұрын
Actually I might have to start using this trick. I harvest wormhole gasses for money and so far I have been using cloaky transports for my hauling needs. If I could get an industrial to do the job I could make fewer trips.
@MrAwsome51411 жыл бұрын
By the way you also want to use your directional scanner to check the gate you are warping to first..Sometimes people will camp with smartbombs to pop you while you are warping in. I have a guy who does this alot along my usual supply routs.
@landen9912 жыл бұрын
You just need to be within 2000m of a can to be decloaked/prevented from cloaking. That includes the entire travel while aligning or burning back to the gate, too.
@ChongPangBoom6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Good for me just trying to buy a blockade runner, I need to know basics as well.
@mhybrid711 жыл бұрын
Never fit nanofibers, for they reduce your mass and make you take longer time until you enter warp. ONLY I-stabs if you are concerned about entering warp quickly. Nanos are used if you plan to be more agile and faster for combat.
@ryanbthiesant23075 жыл бұрын
wiki.eveuniversity.org/Occator "...has a fairly small cargohold, but instead has a 50,000 m³ Fleet Hangar, which can carry anything including assembled ships. The Fleet Hangar size is increased by the Transport Ships skill to 62,500 m³ (at level 5). Notably, Transport Ships IV gives 60,000 m³ and allows for transporting 3 packaged industrial ships, 4 battlecruisers or 6 cruisers (at 20,000 m³, 15,000 m³ or 10,000 m³ per hull respectively)." Great info for the Microwarp cloak trick. That said you should not need to use the cargo modules, when you have 50Km3 - 62Km3 in the fleet hanger.
@zander00810 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this up!
@maciejbacal556211 жыл бұрын
Shield Extenders increase your signature radius, thus making you easier to lock. Better fit an ECM Burst, it can save you, the Extender won't.
@CyrusOfNaias10 жыл бұрын
Highly effective!
@wingsuitjames11 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Love the quality. Learned a ton.
@ok-ranch391311 жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate the lesson. If you could please let me know if this would work with an Orca and how. new guy here...
@ExtraCarnex12 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you do this in low sec while there are actually enemies in the area.
@aknsanl422310 жыл бұрын
Really nice vid. thanks!
@MrYendor196811 жыл бұрын
i told my corp members about this and i was fobed off but me and my brother did this as a rule and i have only been poped when i stammered on the cloak my bro sat at the gate and tryed to target me in a small ship that had a fast lock time and he was only able to lock me when i forgot the order and panicked even he never beleaved me till he seen it for him self he now uses this teqnique him self i think i could go thrue low sec my self using this teqnique im in a mamoth by the way thanks a lot
@landen9912 жыл бұрын
what do you do when you come into a gate spammed with jet cans/cargo containers which prevent the cloak?
@SargonOfAmerish3 жыл бұрын
This scenario is typically more common around trade hubs/high population areas than in bottlenecks but yes I'll add the point that there are some situations where you would be better off fitting your ship towards trying to survive attacks rather than trying to prevent them.. but you have to know the landscape, which is why scouts are also an invaluable tool to have at your figurative.. and sometimes literal disposal lol (think outside the box, if for example, you're in high sec and you just HAVE to carry that trillion isk golden trinket through some particular gate that you are concerned you might get killed trying to go through.. about 1-2 minutes before your hauler goes through have a -sec character or one you dont mind going criminal with in the other system, hop in a rookie ship and warp to the gate your hauler is about to go through, and (with your safety set to red obviously) shoot it.. yes shoot it. concord will spawn and kill your ship, then dock up your pod and while it wont negate all potential damage done to you having them on grid vs not on grid can sometimes mean the difference between you being able to tank what we throw at you and you waking up in station without a ship. (I definitely shouldn't be telling you this but if you're reading this far down a decade old comment thread hey you deserve it lol)
@landen9912 жыл бұрын
do inertia stabs and nanos have stacking penalties? If so, then wouldn't 3 inertias and 0 nanos be optimal?
@CommanderCort12 жыл бұрын
On the other hand you could just get a cov ops hauler and cut out the whole MWD, less chance of you getting locked then due to raised sig of it been active
@jasonosborne706610 жыл бұрын
how bought getting caught in a bubble?
@PatrioticAnarchist10 жыл бұрын
Bubbles don't appear in low sec. Only in null. This method can be easily defeated by a sabre on a gate with microwarpdrive spooled up or insta lock.
@yelby10 жыл бұрын
but what if its hot, then its hard to not break a swet
@outlaw1981ukr10 жыл бұрын
Exremely usefull video!
@garrett05097 жыл бұрын
what if you get instalocked by something like a vni
@68w8611 жыл бұрын
Your align time is not fast enough. What size MWD are you using?
@neverdigup11 жыл бұрын
Okay so my align speed should be 10 seconds, how do I measure my align speed?
@JTGizmo11 жыл бұрын
Hey Buddy, thanks for the guide, I have a following problem when using your method, I am cloacked and the warp meter shows warping at half of the bar, and at that moment I uncloack and at about 75% of the meter it reloads the warping. So I am visible from 50-75% of the warping.... till it shots off, any ideas why? or is that normal/safe?
@EveOracle11 жыл бұрын
So you fly around in a pod and indy collectively worth as much as a shiny carrier or a bog standard dreadnought to dodge navitas? LOL
@fe911s6 жыл бұрын
Got it man , ill give it a try
@mekiki942012 жыл бұрын
u cant put bubble in low sec only null and wormhole space
@chettonex4 жыл бұрын
Does this work for exploration ships that have decent speed and can just jump to other gates really fast?
@SargonOfAmerish3 жыл бұрын
What you mean by "really fast" has to be within a VERY precise parameter. An align time of 1.99 seconds or less makes you almost untouchable (or to put it this way.. 98% of the time you will be fine, like I've never been caught nor do I know anyone who has.. but i know someone who knows someone who has.. that kinda thing lol) IMPORTANT: This does not make you immune to Smartbombs.. So no Rancer for you lol. Also, while it is "technically" possible to have a ship with a
@locknloadbitch10 жыл бұрын
is it safely do-able with T1 ships and T1 modules ?
@shadowalker10112 жыл бұрын
Great Vid, Make more tutorials! + i subbed
@intrepid_wandering11 жыл бұрын
Why's the date relevant? Was there something you did in this video that was actually bannable once upon a time o.O?
@PensadorGamer12 жыл бұрын
NICE pilot thanks
@Zimba981011 жыл бұрын
wil afterburner work the same?
@blinkerfluid47124 жыл бұрын
Does this trick still work in 2020 ?
@siigari4 жыл бұрын
Yes it does.
@xxxtrackerxxx77699 жыл бұрын
crazy shit. :) thank you^^
@brentsmith127511 жыл бұрын
How do you blow by a warp indicator in low sec? Personally I drop a micro nuke missile on both the Indicator and the ship with one shot and take off. Transport should be allow to have 8 gun.
@beyondass9 жыл бұрын
Great video, but what type of ship is that? Thanks.
@tonyth92404 жыл бұрын
M. Annotti a gallente industrial
@tonyth92404 жыл бұрын
M. Annotti holy shit im late, 5 years too late lol
@lovenicholson9 жыл бұрын
does this method protect against SEBO locks and scrams ?
@erictyler32599 жыл бұрын
+Ian Logan Exactly. I've been trying to tell people this and they just don't get it. An instant lock tackle who is on their game is going to get you.
@touchgameplay9 жыл бұрын
i tried this doesnt work i go to wrap and it wont let me wrap while cloaked so i have to drop it before i can and when i do there is still a delay i before it lets i jump...
@AlexSmith-pp2bt10 жыл бұрын
Hello, Dude! Unfortunatelly NOW the Microwarpdrive and the Cloacking Device no more working immediatelly. It's very poor, but it's our real. But anyway thank you for your knowledge.
@АлексейМихайлович-ч3ы8 жыл бұрын
Все работает. не придумывай
@kevinsmith37218 жыл бұрын
what is the keyboard shortcut for mwd and cloak?
@jasonmurphy61267 жыл бұрын
I move my mwd to the right of my cloak so its f1 and f2 respectively.
@captainsman12 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial...there is hope it seems, I'm sick of getting ganked.
@MrAwsome51411 жыл бұрын
Your inertial stabilizers are actually a bit of a hindrance in lowsec. They increase your sig making it faster to lock you and thier agility bonus does not actually help you. Warping from being stationary does not actually involve turning but rather acceleration. You are better off with cargp expanders which reduce max speed without hindering acceleration to reach warp faster.
@andytaurus6210 жыл бұрын
practice practice practice .... oh pooh they had smart bombs :/
@mhybrid711 жыл бұрын
you mentioned that nobody would be able to lock you. Well, that is not right. The most dangerous moment is when you undock the station. Then it is not always easy to cloak and warp off. You NEED WC-stabs on this ship. I fly this type of fit with a Sigil. Never lost it, and got locked and shot at multiple times. And many frigates are fitted to instalock you. The cloak/MWD trick is not 100% bulletproof.
@snappie418011 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit new to eve, I don't understand why you need a micro warp drive, I thought that just makes you jump like 100km
@SargonOfAmerish3 жыл бұрын
Seven years too late but no you're thinking of Micro Jump Drive :p
@vapingtrucker27527 жыл бұрын
really? safe to just jump in highs sec? you have hear of high sec ganking of haulers?
@SargonOfAmerish3 жыл бұрын
Its never that simple lol, but coming from someone who's literally scouted for Kusion's freighter ganking fleet in Uedama, thankfully 90% of the time if you die it is because of a mistake with how your ship was fitted or you were doing something particularly dangerous like auto-piloting.
@Shamefulroleplay11 жыл бұрын
CCP does not see this as a glitch though, it's official.
@pitdwj7 жыл бұрын
what if they bubble the gate? u can't warp in bubble
@duranpredur10987 жыл бұрын
This tutoriel is for lowsec.
@pitdwj7 жыл бұрын
is -0.1 lowsec or null?
@duranpredur10987 жыл бұрын
Low sec is from 0,4 to 0,1.
@nazguul51211 жыл бұрын
a good ceptor could still get you. won't be easy but still possible. a GOOD ceptor :)
@resurrectionx59527 жыл бұрын
nice bruv :D
@gscgold5 жыл бұрын
HS is not safe LoL I've been the victim a few times transporting goods to and from Jita.
@michaelovsg74024 жыл бұрын
Oh this is cute.
@keethstone942511 жыл бұрын
Thats a Micro JUMP Drive Micro warp drive gives you a higher max speed and a big burst of thrust
@MRsysinit1810 жыл бұрын
what about dirty gates and all that jazz
@mhybrid711 жыл бұрын
risky risky fit. 3 T2 I-stabs are enough for this ship. the other slots you should use for WC-Stabs. in the mids you should have a MWD and as much of a shield buffer tank possible. as rigs you would probably need 1-2 rigs to increase your Powergrid and 1 nozzle rig would help. in the highs you just need a cloak. The purpose of this ship is not to have cargo expanders or cargo rigs. This ship is not about transporting cheap junk around but to have a pseudo blockade runner. Never lost my sigil.
@joaofeijoo200710 жыл бұрын
Poor setup for doing this.... the inertial stabs each balloon your sig radius on an already large ship approx 9% then the mwd adds another 500 %, Anything on the gate is gonna decloak you easily and Grab you..... Get a Blockade runner..
@mos7wan7ed10 жыл бұрын
Lucky, the only way to get caught is by a buffer fit cruiser class ship that is being remotely sensor boosted or something smaller that ends up being too small to take any damage from the gate guns to begin with. I don't fit those nano and sabs at all to begin with. I just go with the cloak, micro, and cargo expanders full time.
@joaofeijoo200710 жыл бұрын
Wow, if thats what you think you need to revisit the dev blogs and actually read the game mechanics, because you definitely dont understand them ... the ten second cycle time from your MWD... is way to long for warp time You will be decloaked in nullsec or Empire .. And if you dont think so Your Just another pod limping home..
@mos7wan7ed10 жыл бұрын
Joao Feijoo huh?
@haydenjc311 жыл бұрын
Fuck stacking penalties, got 6 mag stabs on my Erebus brah!
@dbwoy3612 жыл бұрын
a cloak a mwd and a warp stabilizer!!!!!!!
@MrAwsome51411 жыл бұрын
Oh I see... You mean industrial ships not actual transport ships.
@softweapons5 жыл бұрын
And these guys cry every time we make a dirty gate camp, cloak shouldn't be activated if another mod is running.
@SargonOfAmerish3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, next thing you know they'll wanna cloak and bastion... oh shit xD
@ClarksonNo111 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha. Someone is mad.
@Doriandotslash11 жыл бұрын
u mad bro? lololol
@cjmoye11 жыл бұрын
get a prowler...
@68w8611 жыл бұрын
No.
@JoranBerserk10 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who's getting annoyed at him saying M 3 instead of cubic meters or just cubic?
@siigari10 жыл бұрын
I dunno. I call meters cubed m3 because it's slang for space. "How much space does that take up" could be said as "How much m3 is that stuff?"
@JoranBerserk10 жыл бұрын
***** Well, It's just that I'm not used to hearing cubic meters being called m3 since for me and everyone else I know reading m3 is the same as reading cubic or cubic meters.
@srudkin19 жыл бұрын
***** "what's the volume?" even shorter.
@FinALIEN9311 жыл бұрын
heh oh really? hes not abusing game engine he just uses trick that almost any hauler knows, I know how to make Freighter warp in under 5 secs :P
@WOLFPACKED11 жыл бұрын
nope CCP says this is legit
@grimarironfist10 жыл бұрын
George Bush VS Putin
@hafangneige3225 ай бұрын
Stupid video, do not follow this guide otherwise you will be killed in lowsec or especially in null anytime when faced 1 player with straight hands or 2+ with claws i!!!!!!! 1 - any fast ship like interceptor/sabre can decloak you if bumped while you 10 sec align then scram and kill or 2 - insta-lock t3 destroyers and interceptors will lock you instantly if you face them on the gate, they lock you in 1 sec without mvd, and if you press mvd you are locked even faster best way to be safe - HAVE CLOAK SCOUT SHIP friend/alt and jump with it through the gate before your transport do, if you see a camp - dont' go there and take another route!