How to motorize your Bead Roller for under $40

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Broke Bastard Garage

Broke Bastard Garage

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@melgross
@melgross 5 жыл бұрын
Most of the bending force is right at the end of the throat, where the top and bottom portions begin, on the inside end. By the time you’re at the halfway point out on the throat, the metal isn’t bending significantly. So the most effective reinforcement extends to about a third of the way out. So short, thick tubing, about 8” long, would be more effective. I used 2”x2”x1/4” thick tubes for the vertical and horizontal supports. I beveled the end of the horizontal tubes where they touch the vertical tube piece for greater depth penetration of the welds. I welded that frame together before welding it to the roller plate so I could weld the back of the frame parts as well, and ground that down flat. That strengthened it without using the plate for all of the bend resistance. It’s not criticism, but it seems that no one doing this realizes how the stress is aligned, so everyone just assumes the plates bend like a fishing rod, when they mostly bend where the cut in the plate ends.
@carlwhite8225
@carlwhite8225 5 жыл бұрын
I tried to make my own pedal and no luck, bought a cheap HF foot pedal and worked great, I used a gear motor I scored at Bargain hunt and made 25mm to 5/8 coupler. Tomorrow i steal your reinforcement Idea, thanks
@jonathonwilliams93
@jonathonwilliams93 6 жыл бұрын
Picked up a bead roller from the 70s for £80, now I can motorise it. Thanks mate! Awesome video!
@tonyj2216
@tonyj2216 6 жыл бұрын
I've seen a couple of motor additions to a bead roller on KZbin. I have to say that I think your conversion is the best. Great job!
@craigmonteforte1478
@craigmonteforte1478 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed Your modification and video on motorizing. The bead roller And look foward to watching your other videos on metal fabrication I'm actually. A retired Woodworker. Who. Has a new interest in. Learning more about Doing my own metal fabbing but it poses a whole new set of challenges for me because in my 40s i suffered a traumatic brain injury that resulted some paralysis in my left arm and hand so motorizing Tools is a way to go for me Especially on the cheap
@MrMcbuck48
@MrMcbuck48 4 жыл бұрын
Best video on this yet.
@RatRodBobBuilds
@RatRodBobBuilds 6 жыл бұрын
I've got the same bead roller .... cool idea. Gonna do a future upgrade on mine too but I want mine SLOOOWW. May have to do a double reduction gear set .. so gonna be needing two old bikes!
@BackyardClunkers77
@BackyardClunkers77 6 жыл бұрын
put a chain tensioner on it, & a forward/ reverse switch somewhere near the top within arms reach. i noticed you reach down towards the foot pedal for making it go into reverse. if your son had a bmx bike kicking around, then there's probably a skateboard you can use the board's wheel (s) as a great chain tensioner.
@1armedguy4
@1armedguy4 4 жыл бұрын
Musti 1 just put a motor on his bead roller, he had the same problem. He used a motor out of a handicap chair, works quite well. 🇨🇦
@jamesstone4730
@jamesstone4730 6 жыл бұрын
you can also go to e-bay. get a high torque motor 12dc volt. about 5 rpm. a 110ac volt to 12dc volt converter. I am happy. takes a lot of time at 5rpm but you will not be rushed. a foot petal can be installed.
@AA-69
@AA-69 3 жыл бұрын
I looked at motors, but they need electricity !!! So i got myself a second hand philipno outside walmart at night,... She's great, also makes tea and great fried rice... Unfortunately i don't like fried rice in my tea, but we're working on it !!! 👍😘
@martinsteele3259
@martinsteele3259 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome pretty simple way of adding a motor to a bead roller! I was just thinking about a drill as a motor for this purpose. Thanks for the How To!
@theoriginalwallace
@theoriginalwallace 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, bud! I strengthened mine with 2" wide 1/4" thick flat bar along the top, curved around the throat & along the bottom. Worked real well! I'll be motorizing mine now!! Cheers. Leigh in snowy Scotland.
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 5 жыл бұрын
theoriginalwallace make sure the drill has a lot of torque or it will just smoke!!
@theoriginalwallace
@theoriginalwallace 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrokeBastardGarage Sure will, dude! Got a scrap bike out back, so good there! Cheers. Leigh.
@allergictoasphalt11
@allergictoasphalt11 2 жыл бұрын
good idea to use a drill. looks like it could use a little more gear seems kinda fast.
@gerardorubio3612
@gerardorubio3612 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. How about using a foot pedal from a sewing machine. I used an old tig welding machine foot pedal on my 4inch grinder with a flex shaft to do porting on 2stroke cylinders and rotary engine housings. Thanks for sharing.
@danmoreton1788
@danmoreton1788 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work. That 1/4" die grinder from HF certainly has all the power you need!
@Mikefngarage
@Mikefngarage 5 жыл бұрын
good idea. the sprockets being bicycle would work well even if they are welded in a little crooked
@davelewis2174
@davelewis2174 5 жыл бұрын
classic American innovation, keep up the good work!!!
@punkinsgarageandpaint8299
@punkinsgarageandpaint8299 6 жыл бұрын
Managed to take a hole link out of chain and put a half link that's if you don't have much adjustment.great job as always.
@PaulsGarage
@PaulsGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Bike parts and a drill, that's good thinking!
@janeswitcher6625
@janeswitcher6625 4 жыл бұрын
If we met, we would be friends. Dude you rock.
@rishon1273
@rishon1273 2 ай бұрын
Wow, man - this is so cool. You are really talented
@sail235aeh
@sail235aeh 8 ай бұрын
Best adaptation Ive seen yet. Thanks !
@blazej9259
@blazej9259 5 жыл бұрын
A good idea. But I used the power steering engine from Toyota has a lot of power, low revs and is very cheap. And a universal 12 / 24v speed controller. Perhaps someone could use the original driver for this engine then maybe slightly sliding the plate could activate the engine automatically.
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Some interesting ideas there, thanks. That said I seem to have a lot of washing machine motors about so I am likely to use one of those for the job and build my own speed controller.
@brentcurry9698
@brentcurry9698 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel. I have the same truck and need to do the same kind of work you're doing here. You have a new sub. 💪🤟🏼
@georgedennison3338
@georgedennison3338 6 жыл бұрын
Look on Craigs List for a free treadmill, and scavenge the DC motor, power supply and controller. I have snagged 1.5 hp to 2.5 hp motors from treadmills. The Procore treadmills have a nice motor & power supply assy, all on one HD stamped steel platform. The other brands I taken apart have had the motor and power supply divorced. Being a DC motor, you have variable speed, plus you could integrate a foot pedal speed control. Then you could speed it up, slow it down, while having two hands on your metal.
@tommiemb
@tommiemb 5 жыл бұрын
nicely done. Two words for future motorized mods. Sewing machine. fairly cheap at yard sales foot pedal variable speed AC motor. Just throwing it out there.
@Sean_Dennis
@Sean_Dennis 4 жыл бұрын
you could also look at a old sewing machine. They have a foot throttle.
@dansiliven2235
@dansiliven2235 2 жыл бұрын
Sewing machine motor and foot pedal worked for me, and old sewing machines are cheap.
@RDALEHOUSTON
@RDALEHOUSTON 6 жыл бұрын
thanks great video ,, i'm just saying,, change your gear you must speed up drill or it will burn up very soon ,you can look at go cart gears easy to find , thanks i may build on like your
@Tone76602
@Tone76602 6 жыл бұрын
I compliment you for demonstrating your idea, thank you.
@felixcat9318
@felixcat9318 4 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely outstanding video! Your simple, highly efficient and inexpensive motor drive and controller is particularly brilliant. You've hugely expanded the self builders knowledge base for improving these useful devices. Thank you for this brilliant video, subscribed.
@lindsey349
@lindsey349 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like it might be struggling to go slow enough might need to be geared a little slower, would help when trying to make corners, just a thought.
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Lindsey Bryant agreed
@larrysullivan6536
@larrysullivan6536 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant well done mate could you show me how you wired it especially the pedal to make it reverse it’s so cool well done buddy larrysullivan in London
@slashsplat
@slashsplat 11 ай бұрын
Good design. Well done.
@521farmer
@521farmer 8 ай бұрын
Howdie awesome thanks for sharing your project with us ya made it easy to understand and workable so like ya got those parts kicking around so use them thers always a way to make it work how ya come up with your name for what ya do l,m old school and to me your knocking your self just saying that ok joined up cause what ya do l like ther been said thks again from Canada 🇨🇦 SK later keep them coming ya got my vote signed up so can enjoy what ya got for us minus 22 here in March 2024 brrr 😊
@punkinsgarageandpaint8299
@punkinsgarageandpaint8299 6 жыл бұрын
Make the chain guard.... using the bead roller...
@peterdavies1160
@peterdavies1160 4 жыл бұрын
This may be a dumb question...but - would a high-torque stepper motor connected directly to the shaft be an option? The speed controller etc could use PWM via an Pi or Arduino etc. Has anyone tried this?
@morgansword
@morgansword 4 жыл бұрын
Well BBG, I can relate to that and even a housewife can build it, hey they are good for something, I like your attitude so subbed and liked... good times from a 70 year sr., I think I am gonna build. You get poor enough, you build what you need and go to the fair!
@purrosleukos253
@purrosleukos253 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the share, clear concise and easy to follow!!!!!! Man I love saving money cheers mate🍻
@colinthompson2298
@colinthompson2298 6 жыл бұрын
Great job giving ideas for my bead roller . I noticed your using 18 ga are you using that in your 3 in 1 brake slip roller and if so how well does it work Thanks
@antalog
@antalog 5 жыл бұрын
Nice concept and execution. Thanks for posting this.
@theabyssgarage
@theabyssgarage 6 жыл бұрын
Very cleaver! I see a Trinity bag in the background!
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 6 жыл бұрын
jason moss yah I use to race Rc for for years
@theabyssgarage
@theabyssgarage 6 жыл бұрын
Broke Bastard Garage same thing !
@scottmiller1282
@scottmiller1282 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I use a bead roller alot. How about a rheostat in line to set the speed that you want even if the pedal is
@scottmiller1282
@scottmiller1282 5 жыл бұрын
To the wood. Just a thought great job
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 5 жыл бұрын
I think a rheostat and a garage door opener would be great
@j.danaclark2166
@j.danaclark2166 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that simplifies my plans for me bead roller....
@davidsimms2806
@davidsimms2806 3 жыл бұрын
One the kids cars broke. Haha I felt that!
@joealvardo3618
@joealvardo3618 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea using that drill motor
@Freetheworldnow
@Freetheworldnow 5 жыл бұрын
By the looks of it, your gonna burn the motor in no time. A pipe threading motor would have been way more apropriate. Don't forget, you need reverse.
@jamesball6069
@jamesball6069 5 жыл бұрын
You may be right but a pipe threading motor at harbor freight is $190 this is a $20 solution. I'd say it depends upon how much bead rolling you do and whether you are a cheap so-and-so as the name of the channel suggests :))) The idea of changing the gear ratio was good but may need an even higher ratio as RDALEHOUSTON says below.
@joechill3905
@joechill3905 5 жыл бұрын
If u add a router speed controller you could adjust the speed harbor freight has them for like $10
@impactajuvenile
@impactajuvenile 5 жыл бұрын
That’s another dime bag spent, nah
@barnyardgarage
@barnyardgarage 6 жыл бұрын
Good way to make it on the cheap!! Makes it much more usable 👍
@jedclampett6466
@jedclampett6466 3 жыл бұрын
I know....two years late to comment.....but as a suggestion a sewing machine peddle would have probably met your needs. Good job!
@ronwrob2819
@ronwrob2819 4 жыл бұрын
h/f foot control ,less than 20 bucks ,plug drill in and go also speed control
@JeepTJay6
@JeepTJay6 4 жыл бұрын
I'm totally doing this. Thanks for sharing
@WaynesGarage
@WaynesGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work mate i'll be making something later on for mine as well as just ordered my one be in next week sometime
@mikesimmons3876
@mikesimmons3876 5 жыл бұрын
Mine will be here next week and then I can fab up something similar. How did yours turn out?
@vincentsalerno8675
@vincentsalerno8675 6 жыл бұрын
Mighty fine fabricobbling
@Morrison_Builds
@Morrison_Builds 4 жыл бұрын
I hear that upchurch in the background
@larrysullivan6536
@larrysullivan6536 4 жыл бұрын
This man is the Nuts he is so clever I’ve got to do this to my bead roller love him larrysullivan in London x
@javiergarcia---
@javiergarcia--- 5 жыл бұрын
i just want to see your kid face when is looking for his bike
@calaveracountycustoms2994
@calaveracountycustoms2994 5 жыл бұрын
Thats bad ass. Needs a chain tensioner and your golden
@sincitysanta
@sincitysanta 6 жыл бұрын
Its inspirational watching a true mad scientist at work....I applaud you, good man.
@ryanchastain6133
@ryanchastain6133 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video I’m going to give it a tey
@kurtludwig4783
@kurtludwig4783 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched Jere Kirkpatrick.com video on his modification of bead rolling. I like the upper shaft being able to adjust
@juanvaldespino8911
@juanvaldespino8911 5 жыл бұрын
You should a metal roller it would be cool
@dragnflyfabricationsllc526
@dragnflyfabricationsllc526 5 жыл бұрын
Neat idea will you be adding a chain idler
@juanvazquez-so7os
@juanvazquez-so7os 4 жыл бұрын
First time I have seen your vids. Subscribed! Nice job!
@Victorhernandez-rl6se
@Victorhernandez-rl6se 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely tanks for share what you know
@ozcorr909
@ozcorr909 3 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative and to the point thank you
@daddemack88r13
@daddemack88r13 4 жыл бұрын
I mechanized my bead roller by asking my wife to come in the shed and crank it for me. FREE OF CHARGE
@dirtyroofer3678
@dirtyroofer3678 4 жыл бұрын
You showed up in my feed. You remind me of my buddy Rocco so I sbbed keep em coming
@moeandco.
@moeandco. 4 жыл бұрын
Now that you’ve had time to use this, is there anything you’d change if doing it again?
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Moe and Co. stronger motor and lower gear reduction.
@guyforlogos
@guyforlogos 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job, great idea too. Thanks for the great video.
@georgeradford9207
@georgeradford9207 5 жыл бұрын
Genius ! Great tips to save money for us broke bastards.
@davecoate9995
@davecoate9995 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there, Australia here, really enjoy your videos and I always learn a lot from them. How do I get one of your Tee shirts? Cheers, Dave
@ianpeterson1613
@ianpeterson1613 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome work
@DrShankenstein
@DrShankenstein 6 жыл бұрын
Great idea! Good job!
@Thetastechannel
@Thetastechannel 6 жыл бұрын
Once again I like
@DirtyWizardCustoms
@DirtyWizardCustoms 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done dude🤘🤘
@JeepTJay6
@JeepTJay6 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thanks for sharing.
@guillermonieri4203
@guillermonieri4203 6 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Thank you.
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow 6 жыл бұрын
was thinking on using a winch motor , problem with that is no speed controll
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 6 жыл бұрын
no speed control and they are normally 12volt
@kieren7763
@kieren7763 6 жыл бұрын
I used a cheap eBay winch u plug into the outlet put a 5 step pulley on motor and a big compressor pulley on the bead roller the winch has a mount to go on a pole so u don't even need to make a mount u just slide it up and down to change speeds and tension belt the big compressor pulley is big enough to use as a handle for very fine work with the belt off also.the winch motor is about 52 rpm if i remember correctly and my reduction is about 15:1 on the smallest pulley and around 3:1 on the biggest step on the pulley hope that helps.
@baladar1353
@baladar1353 5 жыл бұрын
@watahyahknow You can control the speed of a 12V winch motor. It's called PWM (pulse width modulation) speed controlling, it has the advantage of you have full torque the whole time, including the start. You can buy a controller, or build one, it's not that complicated. Some capacitors, resistors, small transistors, power MOSFETs, an 555 IC and a potentiometer (variable resistor), that's all you need.
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow 5 жыл бұрын
@@baladar1353 thanks for the tip but i was thinking more of a 110 volt ac winch motor www.kippersrijssen.nl/hijsmateriaal/elektrische-takels/elektrische-takel-mw-50100kg?gclid=CjwKCAiA99vhBRBnEiwAwpk-uNMrBjU9VqWq5eawSrlyP__iy4ZtcctcUQjictVM6tpMId1S1jgk4hoCkRIQAvD_BwE probably can do sumting simulair though
@baladar1353
@baladar1353 5 жыл бұрын
@@watahyahknow Oh, I see. AC motors can be speed controlled effectively only by changing the frequency of the AC, and that's way more difficult. I wanna change the motor in my drill press to get more power and to control the speed of the spindle, much more than small gears can do. My only chance is to put in an universal motor, and fortunately I have a washing machine that has one in it. Good luck for your project!
@kenneth6731
@kenneth6731 5 жыл бұрын
You might consider a gear reduction motor, maybe something used on a chili roaster?
@mikek4610
@mikek4610 3 жыл бұрын
So howd the flex go? Did the square tubing fix it?
@josbrouwers5673
@josbrouwers5673 6 жыл бұрын
Nice great job.
@jampunye01
@jampunye01 6 жыл бұрын
Does the steel bars stop it from flexing? Nice work anyway thank for the video
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Rizal Muazzam Razali yah it doesn’t move
@MC-zu4gl
@MC-zu4gl 6 жыл бұрын
Any idea what the amperage is at the switch? Could a sewing machine pedal be wired in?
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 6 жыл бұрын
M C I am sure you could. They have 14 gauge widen in and out. And the drill wires are way smaller.
@MC-zu4gl
@MC-zu4gl 6 жыл бұрын
Broke Bastard Garage I’m going to pick one up soon and see, usually those pedals aren’t rated over 1.5a Thanks for the video
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 6 жыл бұрын
M C you could always use relays. They only need 7 volts do load
@wwboydsr
@wwboydsr 5 жыл бұрын
Good work man,really good video.
@beardbuilds5140
@beardbuilds5140 6 жыл бұрын
Bloody nice job 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@Dallas-xo7gi
@Dallas-xo7gi 4 жыл бұрын
drills to small. will burn out after using it a short time. You can hear it in the video.
@spiderbrandt4066
@spiderbrandt4066 5 жыл бұрын
When do we get to see new Videos ???
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Spider Brandt new videos posted every week.
@RichardLWhite
@RichardLWhite 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool..
@magicman_metal_fab
@magicman_metal_fab 2 жыл бұрын
Love it.
@ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441
@ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441 4 жыл бұрын
You know what makes a good foot control. It's one off the sewing machine. Just saying something to think about.
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 4 жыл бұрын
true maybe next time
@tonydetrick7973
@tonydetrick7973 5 жыл бұрын
Upchurch 🤟
@black88coupe
@black88coupe 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool!👍👍👍
@SuperChromatic
@SuperChromatic 6 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@paulvov6029
@paulvov6029 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Two6four
@Two6four 5 жыл бұрын
Badass!
@gregbowen9546
@gregbowen9546 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea but it looks like it's gonna be to fast to make corners.
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Greg Bowen foot pedal is adjustable. The more you push the faster it goes.
@gregbowen9546
@gregbowen9546 5 жыл бұрын
Ok it sounds like the drill motor is gonna burn up when you tried to slow it down. But for $22 bucks I guess you buy a new one when it does. I think harbor freight sells a speed adjuster for electric motors that might work for you. Hope it works for you though. Looks like a good job and a good idea.
@gregbowen9546
@gregbowen9546 5 жыл бұрын
It's called a router speed control at harbor Freight and it's $20.
@venvnco6259
@venvnco6259 5 жыл бұрын
Take the crank off and put a steering wheel on. Works great it keeps you from having to reach so far away.
@BrianW2979
@BrianW2979 6 жыл бұрын
did you brace the drill so the chain stays tight?
@BrokeBastardGarage
@BrokeBastardGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Brian W yes the drill is completely bolted in the bracket
@rick3095
@rick3095 5 жыл бұрын
thank you
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