How to move to Spain - for non EU citizens including post-Brexit Brits

How can I move to Spain? If you're a Brit with a UK passport or a citizen of any other non-EU country, here is what you need to know.
Skatz and his alter-ego give you six minutes of very British facts layered with nonsense. See if you can guess which is which!
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[@TerkeyDoh]

I'm in my 20s and dreamed of living in a different country since a kid. My SAD is so bad in the UK and I really want to move to a hotter country for a while and do some bar work or something. Unfortunately when I was 16 a bunch of old people voted Brexit and now it feels impossible :( Thanks for the video - maybe one day I can move

[@youtoospain]

I feel for you. I suffer(ed) from SAD. How about doing some volunteering work in a sunnier country? That can sometimes lead you to employment

[@SlimTortoise]

Funny and a little sad 🙂

[@megannifranklynschool]

U can still go for the 90 days can't u. X I was lucky in my 20s I worked in majorca for 4 years doing bar pr work and best time of my life... miss it xx

[@desireedjanie]

I’m in the same boat. SAD is terribly affecting me and my family life. I really don’t know which way to turn. I desperately want to move to another sunnier country with my 5 year old.

[@trillestarchives]

Wow I never knew what SAD was and I have just looked into it and it makes so much sense for me now

[@hazelstevens1376]

Brilliant fun way to give useful information to living in Spain 😊

[@youtoospain]

😀😀😀😀

[@juliadavison]

I am an very lucky Brit who happens to have Irish ☘️ family and I hold an Irish passport and can live and work in Europe as well as the Ireland 🇮🇪 thanks to my mum Irish ☘️ family in cork being an duel national but not many brits have do not have this option open to them otherwise you need an visa

[@youtoospain]

Indeed.

[@synbowld]

Great informative, funny video! My partner and I want to move to Spain when we have some more savings (from the UK) but we have no idea how to go about it! We would both be working there as we are 30.

[@youtoospain]

Do you both have UK passports? Any Irish parents or grandparents?

[@synbowld]

@@youtoospain both UK passports and no Irish relatives

[@youtoospain]

@@synbowld So the choices you have are: 1/ to get a Spanish company to sponsor you to work for them and get you a working visa (this is really difficult because you'd need to be highly qualified in one of a small number of professions) 2/ to be successfully self-employed and apply for a self-employment visa (this demands a very strong business plan) 3/ be a remote worker for a UK company for more than 3 month and apply for the Digital Nomad Visa. There are some variations on these options, but that's it in a nutshell. Since Brexit it has become much more difficult to move here for UK passport holders.

[@insertyourquarters]

Listen! I found this highly entertaining and educational 🤣 and I'm not even moving to Spain. Thanks a bunch! ✨

[@youtoospain]

That’s great, 😁

[@grantmail4112]

When you see these programs on TV like A place in the sun.... it looks so easy to live in Spain... so this was a real eye opener! The only place I have seen (that looks a nice place to live) so far that has easier rules to live there is Thailand.

[@youtoospain]

I’m not sure I could cope with the moist heat there.

[@grantmail4112]

@@youtoospain Yes, me neither.. I watched a channel that showed a couple walking around in the evening and his shirt was dripping wet from the heat in the evening. Great help on here.. thanks.

[@youtoospain]

@@grantmail4112 you’re welcome. A Place In The Sun does make it look easy. They don’t want to frighten people away. It’s not too difficult if you have enough savings and pension, and someone to guide you through the paperwork.

[@grantmail4112]

@@youtoospain I have both of those.. but I may have misheard you mention you need a £25k income through business or pension year on year. That's a lot to ask.

[@youtoospain]

@@grantmail4112 yes, for a single person in Euros it's the equivalent of €28k a year for 5 years if you're on the Non Lucrative visa. Although it doesn't work out at 5 x €28k if you don't spend much of the savings and live off the pension. How much is your monthly pension if you don't mind me asking?

[@jamesb777driver]

I’d like to buy a property in Spain, but realise that I would be unable to stay more than 90 days in an 180 day period, what are the options to get around this?

[@youtoospain]

Hi James, the only two options are to stay within the 90/180 rule or get a visa to live in Spain. Either way you can buy a property.

[@WayneSmith-warren]

Hello, my wife and i are moving to Spain and we are looking to understand how we can get our house contents moved over (which should be for free) without a hitch. We have boxed everything up (that will go in a box) and will be hiring a Luton van to to transport/drive it all in person through the tunnel and down through France into Spain. Cannot find out what documents i need or who to see about getting this done as i have been given several different suggestions and don't want to get it wrong. Can anyone help plese in guiding me withtht e correct procedure?

[@youtoospain]

That’s a very good question to which I don’t have the answer right now but I’m searching for a removals company to come on the show to answer it. As I understand it, there’s some complicated paperwork involved, and if you do it right you’ll get through without being slammed with customs charges.

[@user-xy2en1hm3r]

this guy is the biggest issue with the social side of the vote whether it be remain or leave.

[@youtoospain]

‘this guy’? You mean me? In which case, who are you talking to? And please explain what you mean by the ‘social side of the vote’ and how both sides can possibly be the social side.

[@blackandwh1teboy]

British citizen whose kids were born in Spain(Spanish mother), could i get a visa/residency as my kids are there?

[@youtoospain]

If you’re still in a relationship with their mother then yes.

[@blackandwh1teboy]

@@youtoospain not anymore, no. If say, a Turkish guy gets a British lass pregnant, pretty sure he'd be eligible to live in UK. I don't get it

[@youtoospain]

@@blackandwh1teboy there's no point comparing different countries rules and regulations and expecting parity. And no, just 'getting a lass pregnant' doesn't give you eligibility to live in the UK, whether you're a dark skinned Muslim or not. Being in a committed long term relationship and having a child on the other hand allows you to apply.

[@meganedwards194]

Very informative, thank you! A question, if you don’t mind. I will be a graduate engineer next year. Does that count as one of the “specialised skills”? And if it did, would my partner be able to move with me or would he individually need to meet the requirements?

[@youtoospain]

Hi Megan, engineering is one area that Spain needs specialists. Whether a degree is enough is debatable, you may need a masters or a PhD to fit the criteria, and particularly from a prestigious university. You’d need to research the job market to find exactly what kind of engineers are sought after.

[@isaac12114]

I will never forgive this country leaving the eu. I want to move to Spain but it’s just impossible

[@youtoospain]

I feel for you. Any Irish ancestors by any chance?

[@MrNikejones]

I didn't release how hard was to move to Spain now . Sound pretty hard for a trade worker.

[@youtoospain]

Yes it is, unless there’s a shortage of labour in specialist jobs. Unemployment can be quite high so the incentive is to employ Spanish people or other EU citizens

[@omgitsmakoto2743]

I probably wouldn't be able to move to Spain permanently since I made silly choices back when I was 18 and 19 years old a decade ago which lead to a criminal record for minor and petty crimes. 😐

[@youtoospain]

You might be okay, especially if the crimes don’t involve violence. They’re only supposed to be a problem if they’re less than 5 years ago but they still show up on the ACRO. You could contact the consulate and ask them what they advise

[@bobyouel7674]

brilliant all the paperwork etc does not [not] apply for the rich

[@youtoospain]

?? I’m confused by your double negative and square brackets. And your meaning. Apart from that, well done.

[@iam_elgee]

Hi Youtoo Spain, I'm grateful for your channel. I am trying to get my residence permit as a NON-EU family member of an EU partner. We have the (Pareja DeH hecho) signed already. I made a mistake in my first submission buy clicking (permanent residence) application and I got rejected on the premise that I haven't lived for 5years in Spain. I already resubmitted with the right option now (Temporary residence). MY QUESTION is: there is an option to appeal the first rejection. Is it advisable to go through the appeal process? or just wait till my new resubmission is assessed?

[@youtoospain]

No point in appealing something you can’t win. Like you say you need to have lived here for five years, so you’d need a time machine to make that work. Best of luck with your latest application, let me know how you get on.

[@jackvoda4649]

Great video! Informative and hilarious at the same time. I’m lucky enough I can apply for Irish citizenship through descent (which I have done) but I feel so bad for all the Brits who had dreams that can no longer be fulfilled. My long term dream is to move somewhere like Spain or Italy. Thank you Ireland ☘️💚🇪🇺

[@youtoospain]

Sláinte

[@Theboxingobserver]

Great video :) I want to move to Benidorm at the end of 2024, but I will be freelancing as a digital nomad (KZbin videos, writing books, podcasts etc) - what visa will I need and how much money do I need in the bank?

[@youtoospain]

Hi, this video below tells you the financial requirements and much more to help you get the Digital Nomad Visa. kzbin.infoA_cqgnDje90?si=_BwMS_YneKwvqGlM

[@joesoy9185]

Unfortunately, the video does not touch on the topic of health insurance for pensioners (tricky), nor how long you´re allowed to spend in the UK once you´re resident in Spain (trickier still!)

[@youtoospain]

Hi, we have separate videos about those subjects so we could go into detail with them.

[@youtoospain]

If you’re a non-EU temporary resident (that’s in your first 5 years), you can leave Spain for up to 6 months in any one year but only a total of 10 months in those 5 years. Otherwise you’ll have difficulty getting your permanent residency after that.

[@joesoy9185]

@@youtoospain From the British tax point of view, it's even more complicated. Search: "How many days can UK expats spend in the UK and retain non-resident status".

[@youtoospain]

@@joesoy9185 in terms of retaining residency status, it’s as straightforward as I outlined. Tax status is a different thing, although it is related

[@lifetravels1262]

Amazing video! I wanted to ask about the 90/180, does the 90 days have to be consecutive or can I do 30 days then 10 days then 5 days and so on within the 180 days?

[@youtoospain]

Here’s the video I made to help people through the questions about the rule: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6i6eK2jetmlrrM

[@omarco3971]

My situation is a unique combination of factors. I have a Mexican and an American passport. I work for an American company that has an entity in Spain. To transfer they’ll have to hire me through their Spanish entity. Does that mean they would be sponsoring me? What kind of visa would that be if I already work for them? Also, I’ve read that as a Mexican citizen (or any former Spanish colony), there’s an expedited two year track for getting Spanish citizenship. Do you know anything about that?

[@youtoospain]

There is indeed a 2 year expedited route to citizenship for you. It means you don’t need to wait 10 years like most other people. I’m no expert on getting sponsored but as far as I’m aware the Spanish part of the company would have to sort out your working visa for you so they’ll need to investigate what to do.

[@omarco3971]

Thank you, Skatz. Your videos are very helpful and informative.

[@youtoospain]

@@omarco3971 you’re welcome. Spread the word to anyone else who wants to move here.

[@olliebell4980]

I have found it an absolute pain in the ass, I'm 26 wanting to move and live in port de pollenca, they've made it well hard! ahah but hope they re-arrange something with the EU!

[@youtoospain]

It’s always been hard for non EU citizens to move to Spain, they’ve not made it any harder. The UK leaving the EU is what made it difficult for you. And I don’t think they’re going to rearrange anything with the EU.

[@harrietentwistle3612]

very helpful thank you

[@youtoospain]

You’re welcome. Plenty more info (and fun) where that came from.

[@elt1640]

Is there anyway the UK will get back in the eu! I am gutted i am unable to relocate to spain with my family for a better life. Im so sad about it all 😢

[@youtoospain]

Sorry for your loss. To even suggest a reversal of Brexit would be political suicide for any politician or party, in spite of how many people might want it to happen. Brexit is still happening and it will be nearly a decade until all of the necessary laws have been changed. At the end of the tiresome process no bureaucrat in his right mind will want to go through it all again backwards. I doubt any EU country would say Yes to the UK rejoining after the mess that leaving caused. It was like a divorce that took over 4 years of arguing between lawyers to decide the rules of how the breakup was going to happen, only to decide there weren’t going to be any rules.

[@rorymacleod2317]

I work at sea, for a month at sea I make about 7k. Would like to buy a place in Andalusia at some point soon. Does earning money at sea, outside Spain, in international water for a uk company make it difficult for me to move there?

[@youtoospain]

Is your passport from the UK?

[@rorymacleod2317]

@@youtoospain yes uk passport

[@Mike_Ripper]

I think you'd be better off limiting your time in Spain to less than 180 days a year and remaining a UK taxpayer. The tax perks for UK seafarers are worth hanging onto. . . As an aside your discharge book gives you the right to use the Spanish Casa del Mar network of accommodation for seafarers. Around 6 euros a night for a comfortable hotel style room. Can't beat it.

[@ryanbell4952]

@@Mike_Ripper im an offshore worker too. You sound clued up and would like a chat. Do you have whatsapp or something

[@user-lc4gr8nx2j]

Hahahahaha getting a job in Spain, as if it was easy before Brexit 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣👍🏻 good joke

[@youtoospain]

Glad you like it

[@tomm5228]

Great video, informative if you plan to live you will need to pass a Spanish driving test within a year!

[@youtoospain]

6 months actually. Or you could live in a city or in a place with excellent public transport.

[@youtoospain]

How times have changed in 10 months! Now you can exchange your UK driving licence for a Spanish one.

[@oooofficialyoutube]

You’re funny and informative!

[@youtoospain]

That’s a brilliant prognosis!

[@karlosatomre3900]

As a British citizen can I go to Spain and stay for 2 weeks without a visa? If no, how much for a Spanish visa?

[@youtoospain]

You can go to Spain for up to 90 days without needing a visa.

[@karlosatomre3900]

@@youtoospain So what's the need for the ETIAS if without it, British citizens can still go to EU countries without visa. Can you enlighten me on it?

[@youtoospain]

@@karlosatomre3900 certainly, British citizens will need an ETIAS visa waiver once the system is implemented. I explain all about it in this other video (in between having a little fun with some real comments from panicked Brits that got the wrong idea from the tabloids). Enjoy! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnrZgmBubplrpLs

[@nimacastro7664]

😂😂😂😂😂😂. Awesome British sense of humor. Now I know how England conquered the half of the world. 😂

[@youtoospain]

Lol

[@TheMoneyProjectOfficial]

Hi mate, love the video. Great info and entertainment haha! My partner has just accepted a job in Spain, she is Irish so she won't have any issues getting a visa. I am English, so I might! We have heard I could get a visa via civil partnership, I don't suppose this is anything you could shed light on is it? No idea where to start!! Many thanks in advance!! :)

[@youtoospain]

Hey thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. First thing, your partner doesn’t need a visa, as an EU citizen she has freedom to live and work in Spain. She just needs to register as a resident, preferably after she has her work contract sorted out because the social security payments will give her access to free state healthcare. If you’re married or can prove a long term civil partnership then you are entitled to ‘piggyback’ your residency (and healthcare) on hers, so no visa for you either. Here’s a video all about it. kzbin.info4tAwi8YEM5g?feature=share

[@TheMoneyProjectOfficial]

@@youtoospain Thats really helpful mate. You deserve more subs. I have subscribed! Appreciate your time and efforts. Much respect

[@youtoospain]

@@TheMoneyProjectOfficial 😀😀😀

[@jessegold2844]

I’m hoping you can help. I’m from the U.K. and my brother has lived in Spain for 12 years and is married to a Spanish lady. He has offered me a job and will sponsor me. He owns a jet ski / boat rental business in Marbella. Will I have any issues with getting a work visa? Will he have any issues sponsoring me? Thanks!

[@youtoospain]

The main issue is that he’d need to have advertised the job to all EU citizens first and not been able to find anyone.

[@thereshopeforallofus2487]

I realy enjoyed this video, thank you. If your British freind could show he has the 27,000 Euros to live in Spain how often does he have to show he has got this amount of money in his account is it ever year? And if he only spends say 15,000 Euros in the first year he's in Spain does he only have to top this up to the 27,000 Euros needed when he might apply again? Thank you.

[@youtoospain]

Hi, have a watch of this video which explains it all. If you’re still unsure then ask in the comments under that video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5PXeKx-btJ2e7M

[@stevecroft3973]

I have a question . I want to get residency , I'm married to a spainah citizen. What's the process of applying in this situation. Many thanks !

[@youtoospain]

It’s much easier for you two. Here’s a video that answers all of the questions and more. kzbin.infol5acTKs2r4U?feature=share

[@stevecroft3973]

@@youtoospain thank you very much ! I will let you know how we get on. ! Great content

[@youtoospain]

@@stevecroft3973 you’re welcome. The live Q&A tomorrow morning should be useful to you too if you’re moving from a non-Euro country.

[@iandykes5411]

Nice video less boring than most what if you already earn money online you still cannot move or what about a nomad visa option. So if i was to apply for non lucrative visa for at least 3 years would this be possible?

[@youtoospain]

If you already work remotely online then the Digital Nomad Visa is the one for you. You can’t work at all, remotely or otherwise on the Non Lucrative Visa. Here’s my most recent live show about the nomad kzbin.infoKXHSXT3HRCk?feature=share

[@JasonSmith-ir8zz]

What if I work remote from Spain for a US company, but get paid in a separate bank account from the one I will show Spain for the NLV and future renewals? Would that work??🤔

[@youtoospain]

On a NLV you’re not supposed to be working at all. In order to get the visa in the first place you need to show that you have enough savings and/or passive income to meet the financial requirements. If you tell them that some of the income is from remote working you will be refused the visa. If you don’t tell them, and get found out you won’t be granted the renewal. As you’re younger than retirement age (I assume), they may question your intentions because you won’t be the first applicant to try this.

[@JasonSmith-ir8zz]

@@youtoospain I have enough in savings to show that I can support myself without working in Spain. Meanwhile I was thinking I could secretly work remote and get paid in a different account at a different bank in USA. How can they find out??🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Mike_Ripper]

@@JasonSmith-ir8zz Spain, like the USA, taxes on Worldwide income. . . Maybe they wouldn't find out but if they did it would be classed as tax evasion and, at best, you'd be deported . . That would be my understanding.

[@Mike_Ripper]

@@JasonSmith-ir8zz Also it's not very secret now you've told everyone on here :-) . . It's a bit like telling a 4 year old a secret! :-)

[@georgia6919]

could you explain how this would work for someone who is only 18 years old, is the process a lot harder? I would love to be able to move to spain for university and then continue living/working there after, is this possible?

[@youtoospain]

Yes, there’s a student visa you can apply for if you are accepted into a Spanish University. You’re allowed to word for a limited number of hours per week while you study, and if you get a job offer at the end of your studies your employer will be responsible for getting you a work visa. Those are the basics, have a look at the Spanish consulate website nearest to you for more details. Where do you live?

[@georgia6919]

@@youtoospain thanks for the reply, I live in Stirling, Scotland

[@youtoospain]

@@georgia6919 great, then it’s the Edinburgh consulate website you need. Here’s the link to their page on study visas www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/edimburgo/en/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/Consular/Visado-de-estudios.aspx

[@georgia6919]

@@youtoospain thank you!

[@shaunbowden5993]

Haha great video! How much does it cost for a self employed visa?

[@youtoospain]

Thanks, tricky question to answer. It depends on the business and whether you need premises and the length of time it takes and the length and depth of the business plan. It’s one of those ‘how long is a piece of string?’ questions.

[@m74bg64]

Great video! I was wondering as I’m 25 years old, hypothetically if I had let’s say £100,000 and I bought a property for £60,000 leaving me with £40,000 in my bank, could I apply for the non lucrative visa? And then let’s say I only spent £5000 there for the year, I would still have £35,000 in my savings, is that acceptable to renew my non lucrative visa for another year as I still have over £27,000? however it’s not “new” money so I’m not sure whether it’s deemed okay.. thanks again for the video :)

[@youtoospain]

First off make sure you’re thinking in Euros. With your plan you’d be fine for year one where you’d need €28,800 in savings. Even if you managed to live on, say, €6000 in your first year, which is below what the government sees as basic subsistence level, you wouldn’t have enough savings left to get your residency renewed because you need twice as much (€57,200) to cover years 2&3. Sorry to burst your bubble. You could consider a longer term plan of getting a remote working job for a few months where you live now, then applying for the Digital Nomad Visa. Or an even longer term idea of creating a business of your own. Basically you need more money whether you’re using savings or an income.

[@m74bg64]

@@youtoospain thanks very much for the reply and help! So if for the 5 year period I constantly have over €60,000 in my bank every time it comes to renew my residency, this will be deemed okay? Thanks again 😀

[@youtoospain]

@@m74bg64 in theory, yes, although they’ll be looking to confirm you’re not working at all. Most people on the NLV are retirees with pensions plus savings so they can see a constant flow of cash on living expenses. Anyone relatively young applying for this visa will have questions to answer about how they’re going to survive financially.

[@m74bg64]

@@youtoospain you’ve been a great help In my search! Still a couple of things I couldn’t find online and one was if I qualified like I say for a non lucrative visa for 5 years through having enough money in the bank, what are your chances of still being declined permanent residency afterwards? Because basically I have a good amount of money, but I’m from England so im just figuring out ways that I can get property in Spain and live there consistently for 5 years. Because I’d have enough money to cover my 5 years easily on a non lucrative visa but then I don’t know whether I’ll be denied permanent residency even though I’ll own a property and will have done the 5 years required. But I couldn’t really do a digital nomad visa for 5 years because I read you have to show proof of clients etc so basically my plan is I’ll have more than enough money to stay there for 5 years, and then once I get permanent residency in Spain, maybe I will come back and work in England for a few months a year but again I’m unsure whether that’s allowed? My profession isn’t an online job so other than a non lucrative visa, I’m unsure as to how else I could get permanent residency.. Sorry for such a long message but you’ve been really helpful so far and I’m just trying to get as good of an idea as possible on how I can go about it. Thanks again😀

[@youtoospain]

@@m74bg64 well if you’ve fulfilled the conditions of the NLV for 5 years, including proving you’ve not been out of Spain for a total of 10 months in that time, and you’re okay financially, then there’s no reason why you won’t get your permanent residency, then you’re free to work in Spain if you want. I’m not sure tax wise how working for a few months a year in the UK would work, but I don’t think there’s any law against you doing that. You’ll need to declare any worldwide earnings in Spain.

[@Pennine100]

What happens if we want to retire to Spain and have lots of savings to live off?

[@youtoospain]

Lots of savings is a great opportunity to retire to Spain. The Non Lucrative Visa is the one for you. Anything in particular you want to know?

[@Pennine100]

@@youtoospain so if we have £100,000 in Savings can we get a visa to live full time ? Hope you are doing well on your treatment 👍

[@youtoospain]

@@Pennine100 you can, although that won’t last you for the 5 years of temporary residency so you’ll need to plan to switch to a working or self employment visa at some point. Unless you’re going to get a pension too.

[@Pennine100]

@@youtoospain ouch, you really do need a lot of money and everything looks out of reach now thanks to Brexit, I presume the 90 day rule won’t change?

[@youtoospain]

@@Pennine100 seriously unlikely I’m afraid. Are you close to pension age?

[@goldenchild.lifestyle]

Nice video! What if I’m already in Spain and I would like to get a working visa / stay here and set up an autonomo? Any advice please 🙏🏻

[@youtoospain]

Same question as always to begin with, what passport do you have?

[@goldenchild.lifestyle]

@@youtoospain UK

[@youtoospain]

@@goldenchild.lifestyle okay so are you in Spain on a non lucrative visa or just on holiday?

[@goldenchild.lifestyle]

@@youtoospain not quite holiday, looking to move permanently to Barcelona, but I can stay for 90 days I believe, but would like to live here and work as a consultant. Autonomo I hear is best. Just not quite sure where I start:)

[@youtoospain]

@@goldenchild.lifestyle there’s no rule against you going for a holiday during which time you can investigate working there. But you must return to your country of residency to apply for a visa, it can’t be done in Spain. The self employment visa is quite difficult to apply for, there are quite a few conditions and a very strong business plan is required. The success rate is low but with determination and a great idea and the qualifications to back it up it’s possible. Have a watch of the video in which I interview a Canadian who successfully applied. I’ll put the link below.

[@Lovemy911]

Hello there 😊 Really enjoyed this video.. Thanks for the content My partner and I are both mid 50s.looking to retire here from uk in the next 4 years . Regarding getting citizenship etc would having trade qualifications / in construction help ? NVQ CITY AND GUILDS etc Just in case i wanted part time work .also would proof of savings/ or investment portfolio @€300k be enough to get approved Any help or advice is greatly appreciated 😊👍

[@youtoospain]

You’re welcome. By citizenship I presume you mean residency on a Visa? You can’t get citizenship until you’ve been resident for 10 years. Trade qualifications would only help if you were applying for a working or self employment visa. You can’t work on the Non Lucrative Visa, so either way part time work is out.

[@youtoospain]

Proof of savings or investments are both good, as long as they’re instantly accessible when needed.

[@highgreen6452]

Great video i love all these vids from people who've lived there years before the restrictions telling us all how nigh on impossible it is now, we're 55 were gonna sell our house and go live in a caravan in fuengirola but looks like you need a million in the bank now so we will pass 👍

[@youtoospain]

Well I moved after Brexit for a start. And I never say it’s nigh on impossible to move here. And you don’t need a million in the bank. If you’re retiring at 55 without a pension though you’d of course be expected to have enough money to see you through to when your pension begins. So unless you’re selling your house for a lot of money you’re not really in a position to afford it.

[@highgreen6452]

@@youtoospain thanks for the reply we'd have about €210,00 euros plus or minus 10, it's the €36,000 euros a year for 5 years that's putting us off when I was 21 I stayed in benidorm for 4 years that was 1990 never had a problem got along fine, seems now we've got a bit and can't manage it, we're gonna see if owt changes and if so have another go my Mrs has ME easily managed in a better climate no medication needed we see it every time we go away then when we come back it's back to square one 👍

[@youtoospain]

@@highgreen6452 if you kept double the €36k in a bank account for the 5 years, that would safely cover you for the financial requirement for the NLV. That leaves you around €140k to live on. Then once you’re a permanent resident after 5 years, the other €72k is free to use too.

[@susanwaite1187]

Great channel just found it.😊

[@youtoospain]

Excelente! Welcome aboard.

[@deosiewilson732]

😂😂 ....thanks for the information...... its unfortunate that we no longer qualify to move to Spain..... unless you have a lump sum.....

[@youtoospain]

Sorry to hear that

[@deosiewilson732]

@@youtoospain hi ..... if I were to purchase a small farm. Is selling my produce considered working? I enjoyed your information you provided..... it was very funny and a lot easier to digest than other sites.... do you live in Soain?

[@youtoospain]

@@deosiewilson732 yes I live in Spain. Selling any kind of product is considered to be working. If you can afford to buy a small farm, perhaps you could apply for a self employment visa?

[@deosiewilson732]

@@youtoospain thanks for the reply... I am 65 next Birthday and wanted to retire to Spain.... I was going to sell my house and buy a small farm...... if I have 200k in the bank would that be enough to qualify for retirement visa....and can I then work my farm? Or would you recommend self employed visa? Cheers

[@youtoospain]

@@deosiewilson732 yeah €200 would qualify you easily, and presumably you’d have some passive income from a pension too? The retirement visa doesn’t allow you to work, so it would have to be a self employment visa if you wanted to sell any produce. You could go for the Non Lucrative Visa to begin with then during your first year set up the farm ready to get going and create the business plan ready to apply to change to self employment. It’s not the easiest application, I would investigate the feasibility first with someone like Lucia the lawyer who was on the show recently. [e-mail] Make sure you also sign up to our recommended currency broker which helps out YouTooSpain: bit.ly/SmartY2S Doesn’t cost you a penny and it’s well worth having an account set up early to fix the best rate.

[@graz_d4723]

Be easier to come in a dinghy 😂

[@youtoospain]

I know you’re making a joke, but some people actually believe that, and it feeds into the lack of humanity in the trading of human beings so I’m going to say ‘no it wouldn’t’

[@SlimTortoise]

Find the cheapest easiest visa from a EU country withing the Schengen zone and then drive to Spain and stay there as long as you want. 🙂

[@youtoospain]

A visa for one EU country doesn’t transfer to the others, you need permission from Spain to stay in Spain.

[@SlimTortoise]

@@youtoospain Yes it works fine. Spent 4 months in Spain last year on my French residency card. How. Zero border checks.Everyone in the EU has 90 day limit. But it's difficult to enforce and there are even EU laws that state providing you not a burden on the state you have the right to remain.this is why you have french and other EU citizens saying in Spain for months and months.

[@youtoospain]

@@SlimTortoise it’s a bit of a loophole but it’s not advisable to stay for too long, and certainly not ‘as long as you want’. At some point you’ll fall foul of bureaucracy and tax laws.

[@SlimTortoise]

@@youtoospain Always the risk, but it's near impossible to enforce which is proved by how all the other EU Nationals spend months unlimited in Spain, when legally they too have 90 days (something most if not all people don't know about). I understand if you want to work etc in Spain they are (for those under the WA not transferable) but if like me you have retired or work on line, having a visa or residency in one EU country means it's very easy to live in another EU country, I have friends who have picked the golden visa from Portugal and live in Spain purely because Portugal have a better system or should I say easier system. The loophole for those of us who live in the EU and are non-EU, is the same loophole when we came to Spain and remained for the whole winter when in the EU. I cross the French/Spain border how could anyone in Spain know when I arrived or left?, They can not and so by default it becomes a unlimited stay.

[@youtoospain]

@@SlimTortoise i can see the attraction, and I guess it’s one of the reasons the EU was created, to make it easier for travel and trade and save money on border control. Landlocked countries must be saving a fortune on that. It’ll be interesting to see whether the ETIAS system makes a difference, if it’s ever linked in to traffic cameras and facial recognition it will close up the loophole a bit.

[@Charlies247]

And it’s all going to be changed again I’m told ?

[@youtoospain]

Can you be a bit more specific?

[@Charlies247]

@@youtoospain Spain has been pushing Brussels to make an exception regarding the 90 day rule based on the larger than expected impact to its economy. Out of self interest I have been following some posts on expat info forums and the general messages coming out of Brussels is that it is going to be granted and be announced in the next 12-18 months. Don’t know exactly what the details or criteria will be, although it’s generally thought that it will be made easier for U.K. citizens to stay beyond the 90 days. Just have to wait and see what that will actually be ?

[@youtoospain]

@@Charlies247 ah I see, I thought you were talking about what was on the video. What some politicians in Spain have been talking about is nothing to do with moving to Spain, it’s about creating a temporary tourist visa to allow people to stay in Spain for over 90 days but not more than 6 months. Hope reigns eternal on the expat groups of course, but as it stands it’s a dream in the minds of a few. Fingers crossed though.

[@icelern2123]

I laughed so hard at this 🤣

[@youtoospain]

🤣

[@arcabuz]

Just don’t, specially if you’re a Brit

[@youtoospain]

I and millions of people in Spain welcome everyone who wants to join us and enrich the culture here. Even the Brits.

[@paulinefriend9455]

That was funny he he he

[@youtoospain]

🤣

[@eugenioolazabal1867]

Good sense of humor, but really for retired people the Schengen countries need to relax some of the requirements, they are steep for no reason at all.

[@youtoospain]

Thanks. I think the point of Schengen though is security for its people. And it’s like a club. You have to show preference to your members and their spouses. Surely the only requirement is to be an EU citizen, which isn’t steep, it just is what it is. And why should it make a difference if you’re retired or not to the membership requirement?

[@eugenioolazabal1867]

@@youtoospain It shouldn't, however consider what the cost of bailing out those same Schengen countries when the Russians invade the whole of Europe, who's going to foot the bill then to save those nations again? Britain stood alone the last time, but needed the grand ole U.S.A. to push the Axis powers out for good. Now Americans, Australians, Canadians and New Zealanders are treated as second class citizens by the "Schengen membership". I guess we all have an point to make. Only time will tell if we have to go back again and "save the membership citizens then".

[@janetlombardi2314]

Very good 👍

[@youtoospain]

Thanks Janet. Anything else I can help you with?

[@janetlombardi2314]

@@youtoospain just read that UK house prices will fall by a third. I suppose the same could happen in Spain so not a good time to buy like you said. Also you talk about a non lucrative visa, living in Spain for 5 years then becoming a resident can you elaborate on this please. Also are you allowed to work if you have a pension?

[@youtoospain]

@@janetlombardi2314 certainly, I’ll leave a link below to another helpful video, but basically a Non Lucrative Visa gets you into Spain then you complete the process by applying for your temporary residency. During your first 5 years you apply twice more to renew that temporary residency, then after 5 you apply for permanent residency, at which time you get the right to work, whether you have a pension or not.

[@youtoospain]

@@janetlombardi2314 here’s that helpful video link, there are plenty more in the playlists kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKLGdYB6h5mlpNU

[@stephenellis2866]

very annoying presentation

[@youtoospain]

Thanks for taking the time to comment.