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How to multi material print ASA and TPU in one part on Bambu Lab 3D printers

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CreativeMaker

CreativeMaker

Күн бұрын

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@JenSalik_
@JenSalik_ 2 ай бұрын
Leiwand, Oida! Thanks for reminding me that the bed temperature has to remain suitable for the material of the first layer. Good explanation!
@Vestly-Snekkeri
@Vestly-Snekkeri 6 ай бұрын
Hello. Great video. A tips for you, insted of hitting resume and pause, you kan hit close and use the meny as you want. You can even lift the table up and down ass you wish. When finished, go to homescreen and press resume. It will go back to correct tablehight by it self. Works great, espesially when embedding nuts and bolts in to prints 🙂
@KenRossPhotography
@KenRossPhotography 6 ай бұрын
Some greats tips on combining these materials - I've often wondered about mixing TPU directly with another filament and while I've not printed with ASA before, I do have a roll, so I guess it's time to crack it open and experiment 😀
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the feedback, I'm glad if it's helpful. Here is a short update video where PETG is bonded to TPU: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqW2dmmnq8Sbic0
@koenvanduffel2084
@koenvanduffel2084 6 ай бұрын
I just built a RatRig 500 IDEX with exactly this type of applications in mind. Will be following your progress with interest.
@andreablackcat
@andreablackcat 6 ай бұрын
That's interesting, thanks for sharing this 👍 I don't use ASA but have a lot of ABS that I use when i need better heat resistance or electrical insulation, having used a bit of TPU (with good results) I'll give a try to mix the two!
@Todestelzer
@Todestelzer 3 ай бұрын
Bought a Snapmaker J1 this week to print something like this and to speed up dual color prints.
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace 6 ай бұрын
You can print with overture tpu high speed or priline black or very hard TPU in the AMS (it will need a fake pla profile with tpu settings to work however) I just got a roll of overture high speed tpu myself and printed a torture test with 30 plus filament changes, all without issue. It's not guaranteed but I'd look at getting a tpu that works in the AMS before other more complex methods of multi material printing I printed pla with tpu and they stuck together very well
@brappineau4161
@brappineau4161 6 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they don't allow different parameters per spool in AMS
@ingGS
@ingGS 4 күн бұрын
Great tutorial. Thank you!
@jessehavok4181
@jessehavok4181 6 ай бұрын
How have I not thought about this? I have been trying to get PLA and TPU to bond forever now.
@mars3142
@mars3142 6 ай бұрын
You don't need to press "pause" again on the filament switch. Just press "close" and the printer will wait for for next instruction (filament change, continue).
@iandenton5618
@iandenton5618 6 ай бұрын
Why not just use the close option on the popup (3rd button) rather than the resume. This just hides the popup while leaving the print job paused, so need to have to press pause quickly.
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Oh man, I didn't get that. Thank you so much for the tip!! Then you have a lot fewer strings.
@FrankP83
@FrankP83 6 ай бұрын
nice done!Hopefully will be an update on the software of the printer, so the switch can be less "tricky" ...i mean "press continue ...then pause...ecc"
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately I made a mistake here, as @iandenton5618 kindly pointed out, you can simply close the window. I recorded a follow-up video where I address this point again. If you are interested, here is the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqW2dmmnq8Sbic0
@malefactor111
@malefactor111 6 ай бұрын
great start. proud to be one of your first 100 subs. now consider deep diving into this topic... how to do with with PLA + TPU and/or PETG + TPU -- far more "conventional" than ASA. can it work? if not, why not? and maybe test out the new overture high speed TPU; there are reports it MIGHT be able to go in AMS (success in a modded AMS). in my experience it's not very flexible. but some flex is better than no flex.
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the praise, I'm very pleased. Thanks for the suggestions too, I'll try to give that a try. However, I can't promise anything because, on the one hand, I don't really have much experience and, on the other hand, I just need more time ;-)
@malefactor111
@malefactor111 6 ай бұрын
@@creativemakerat fair enough. but realize, we're in territory that NOBODY knows anything about. You're more of an expert than you realize 🙂 I'll give you an example. I was just trying to print multiple filaments at 0.06 out of an 0.2mm nozzle, and learned yesterday this is not clean and polished. the process realistically cannot currently handle this level of precision. (tested on both A1 and X1C)
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
I followed your advice and testet PETG with TPU. That also worked very well. Since there were also some very good suggestions for improvement here in the comments, I recorded a short update video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqW2dmmnq8Sbic0. Again, thanks for your support :-)
@ali-sleimanchehade6129
@ali-sleimanchehade6129 2 ай бұрын
Love that video but it will be so much paint to make a part where the infill is ASA and the shell is TPU 😩 What I want to do it making some car parts with TPU as the shell so I will not make rattle noise in the car when the bass hits!!!
@Julian_Kurt
@Julian_Kurt 11 күн бұрын
Why do you need the two different filament types in the slicer? Can’t you just add the pause change it manually and continue. Is it so that the printer does the purge tower?
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 8 күн бұрын
You’re right, you could try using just one profile. However, there are some small differences between the two profiles, such as the density. For ASA, the maximum volumetric speed is also significantly higher, which speeds up the printing process. If you decide to try it with just one filament, I’d love to hear about your experience. The purge tower isn’t necessary. There’s an update to this video where I mention this - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqW2dmmnq8Sbic0
@Walt1119
@Walt1119 3 ай бұрын
Great video, gives me some new ideas! Thanks for sharing w us!
@PrintermanBln
@PrintermanBln 6 ай бұрын
Ich wollte schon sagen, hört sich an wie deutsches Englisch! Gleich mal ein Abo da gelassen
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Hallo. Ja mein Englisch ist jetzt leider nicht gerade "the yellow from the egg" 🤣 . Danke fürs Abo!
@aytunch
@aytunch 6 ай бұрын
Why is the purge tower so big? Is there a way to make it smaller?
@NMe1984
@NMe1984 6 ай бұрын
Why is there a purge tower at all? Just manually purge ONCE during each filament switch...
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Hi. Thank you for this hint. To be honest, I didn't think about it. You can disable the purge tower, this is not needed, because enough material is already extruded when changing the filamnet manually. I have updated the project file.
@THusbands
@THusbands 6 ай бұрын
It's a prime tower not purge. The prime tower allowed the extruded to get up to the correct pressure before going to the model
@OggyGame
@OggyGame 6 ай бұрын
@@THusbands not really, extruder retracts filament inbetween purge tower and model so it's not pressurised before
@iopfarmer
@iopfarmer 6 ай бұрын
Valuable content, also for other printers which do not send you data and model to China ;) Thanks for the tips.
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Thanks ;-)
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept 6 ай бұрын
Seems kind of odd to have a purge tower on a part that only changes material a couple times 🤔
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Hi. Thank you for this hint. To be honest, I didn't think about it. But of course you're right, you can save yourself the purge tower. I have updated the project file. Thank you again for the tip!
@enyoc3d
@enyoc3d 6 ай бұрын
very useful. thanks!
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@enyoc3d
@enyoc3d 6 ай бұрын
@@creativemakerat thank you for these solutions. i was so disappointed when i received my bambu to find out the AMS couldn't handle TPU
@aheadofthecurve2352
@aheadofthecurve2352 6 ай бұрын
I can do this exact same thing on my CR10s without all the software headaches by merely adding a layer interrupt script. Seems like more money to do more steps which in turn wastes filament by creating a purge tower which is wholly unnecessary.
@KarlaGuzmanMariscal
@KarlaGuzmanMariscal 2 ай бұрын
Do you consider that we need to modify the inside of the extruder to print with TPU? I am having a lot of problems printing big pieces with tpu with x1 carbon 😅
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 20 күн бұрын
I haven't thought about modifying the inside of the extruder. So far, I haven't had any issues printing with TPU 95A. Could it be that you're using a softer filament? What kind of modifications would you recommend?
@Stubones999
@Stubones999 6 ай бұрын
If you change the seam to random, you won't get the seam in a vertical line...
@2xeverything
@2xeverything 6 ай бұрын
Now you just need to print 3 more! Do they work for damping vibration?
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 5 ай бұрын
That's difficult to answer as I haven't determined the mechanical resistance 😜
@cameltoast
@cameltoast 6 ай бұрын
So TPU will bond with ASA? I didnt see anything in the design that mechanically bonds.
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Exactly, the TPU material is “simply” melted onto the ASA layer underneath.
@ElectroMac74
@ElectroMac74 Ай бұрын
hi can you print instead of the tower sthg useful? thanks
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat Ай бұрын
Hi. You don't need the prime tower at all. Just disable it in the settings. For further details, check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqW2dmmnq8Sbic0. In the video, I explain why the Prime Tower isn't necessary and show you how to deactivate it (chapter "Optimization One").
@huzbum
@huzbum 6 ай бұрын
Why is there even a purge tower here? I do this on my Ender 3 all the time. Just setup the model, add a pause at the layer you want to switch, slice with one filament, save the gcode, slice with the other filament, then splice the two gcode files together where the pause is. Doesn't even matter if they are the same temperature range, just add temperature gcode at the splice.
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 5 ай бұрын
Well, I only have to configure the filament once and then I can use it again. In comparison, the G-code has to be adjusted for every part - if we ignore the fact that we have to add a pause with a click. It may be easy for experienced users to rewrite the code. But, as a beginner, I prefer the few modifications in the user interface. Never the less, thanks for the hint. Oh yes, the prime tower was my mistake, of course you don't need it - lesson learned.
@huzbum
@huzbum 5 ай бұрын
@@creativemakerat in cases where the filaments are significantly different, it’s beneficial to use profiles tuned for them. Like my tpu profile has different retraction, and asa slightly lower flow. Without the splicing it doesn’t have the proper profile for each filament.
@klaidasrunele
@klaidasrunele 5 ай бұрын
If you get hard enough TPU you can just use it in an AMS
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 5 ай бұрын
I've seen that it partially works with some manufacturers. The only problem is that I want to use TPU precisely because of its elastic properties ;-)
@czowieknuz7507
@czowieknuz7507 6 ай бұрын
I wish the TPU would work in AMS :(
@TheEragoon
@TheEragoon 6 ай бұрын
that purge tower is such a waste...
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
Hello, you are right. It can be disabled. Thanks for the tip.
@williamelewis464
@williamelewis464 26 күн бұрын
You whine a lot huh 🤔
@felixwhise4165
@felixwhise4165 6 ай бұрын
why are you wearing gloves ? :)
@creativemakerat
@creativemakerat 6 ай бұрын
I didn't do my nails 🤪
@felixwhise4165
@felixwhise4165 6 ай бұрын
@@creativemakerat hahaha valid
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