How to negotiate the best deal on your next bike

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Srkcycles

Srkcycles

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@Raining_H
@Raining_H 4 жыл бұрын
THE NUMBER 1 RULE OF BUYING A MOTORCYCLE IS NEVER BE AFRAID TO WALK AWAY IF THE DEAL ISNT RIGHT FOR YOU.
@CocoaBeachLiving
@CocoaBeachLiving 3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, otherwise they have near total control of negotiations. There is ALWAYS another bike out there. Top advice 👍👍
@mtkoslowski
@mtkoslowski 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It’s the truth.
@michealjones9304
@michealjones9304 3 жыл бұрын
You are beyond so right. You would be surprised of the # of times that the seller will call you, after you walk away.
@L0n3W0lfBl4ck
@L0n3W0lfBl4ck 2 жыл бұрын
Agree completely. This rule applies to cars/trucks too. Every time I have walked away from the deal they have come back with a better deal, doesn’t mean I took it cause it still might not be right, but don’t let them force you into a deal that’s not good for you.
@kirkdunn1379
@kirkdunn1379 2 жыл бұрын
Number 1 rule fir buyin anything.......I believe Sean is straight up dude but salesman at dealerships, lol......cars, trucks, bikes doesn't matter, have fair price and if no walk away, go to next.....if your too low nobody will bite so has to be price people have paid for them.....
@684avatar
@684avatar 4 жыл бұрын
The best tactic I’ve ever done is just tell them I’ll have to think about it and leave. Next thing you know they’re calling me again later on.
@izzy8609
@izzy8609 2 жыл бұрын
You think this will work in person? gonna check some bikes out because I'm new to this motorcycle scene and haven't even sat on the bikes ive been doing research on
@markbarrett4482
@markbarrett4482 4 ай бұрын
Destination harley in Silverdale Washington. Great dealership, great management. I bought a 09 street glide. It was a rolling turd. They bought it back from me for what I paid for it. I have purchased two more Harleys since then. I will never by from anyone else. They made a fair profit and earned a customer for life. Very smart business plan.
@cowdudeable
@cowdudeable 5 жыл бұрын
If a dealer offers a bike for a certain price then adds "Dealer prep" or whatever add-ons they can come up with...what the hell is dealer prep other then a way to jack up an already stated price, anyway?
@stevedingman3753
@stevedingman3753 5 жыл бұрын
I'll ask my wife if I can sell it to you ...
@2hotFL
@2hotFL 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the dealer fee, especially when you try to make the deal over the phone. Some dealers love to try and sneak that one in when you are sitting in the finance office after you think you have a deal and are exited about getting the vehicle.
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you are absolutely right, and that’s why we have no extra dealer fees
@larryj8924
@larryj8924 5 жыл бұрын
Most Harley Dlrs want full MSRP, freight & anywhere from $999 - $2100 Mark up or dealer prep. (same thing) here in So Cal. They will negotiate some, but want to hit home run with every sale. I've bought 3 new HD's but went out of state to smaller dealers for more reasonable deals on 2 of 3 bikes. I understand how HD sales are dropping year after year. Other factors like, aging demographic and millennials not buying cruisers factor in. I've always had more pleasurable experience buying Japanese bikes with discounts off MSRP, no freight or set up.
@03Josuef
@03Josuef 4 жыл бұрын
@srkcycles Takes a real man to tell the truth about buying and selling when you're a dealer, hoping to come up and do business soon! 👍
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 5 жыл бұрын
Typically actually buying the bike or car, especially at a dealership, takes all the fun out of a normally exciting, happy experience. So many salespeople are slime balls. You seem like a good person to buy through. I am older and have purchased a few cars and bikes. My technique is to receive an out the door price over the phone. I want to be in and out of the dealership in 30 minutes not 3 hours. Start all the paperwork so all you need is a signature. I usually pay cash or have financing from somewhere else to speed the process. Glad to hear your sales people do not work on commissions. Some larger dealerships are switching over to that model to make purchasing faster and a good experience.
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Yep that’s the way to do it
@ElectraWillem
@ElectraWillem 5 жыл бұрын
As a byer, with the money in the pocket, I call a reasonble prise and if the seller will not take it, I'am always prepared to walk out the door and look for a other dealership, and a other bike.
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
That’s being a wise buyer
@jimmyb4982
@jimmyb4982 4 жыл бұрын
What's reasonable?
@200235THSS2037
@200235THSS2037 Жыл бұрын
Always get delivery discounted, it’s their cost of doing business not mine. And if not the color or options looking for but can add later, deduct that. Compare other dealerships wishing 100miles. I know about bikes, but called 5 dealerships for Subaru Outback around me, the furthest one gave best price, took my lease off my hands with no hassle and brought to car to me. That’s was outstanding buying experience
@OperationFoxley19441
@OperationFoxley19441 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video, I really appreciate the advice especially the respect between the seller and buyer and doing haggling on the phone before hand. Thankyou!!
@OverboardDM
@OverboardDM 5 жыл бұрын
Good video bud. Hope this helps used bike shoppers out there.
@platoon1081
@platoon1081 Жыл бұрын
My experience was that it was not a "positive" as I believe the Dealer makes money with financing arrangements. Next Dealer purchase will be setting a firm price before discussing method of payment.
@mrbjay5443
@mrbjay5443 Жыл бұрын
Yes, be honest, kind, and upfront, lying burns you in the end. Great points!
@bigjo1373
@bigjo1373 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the video. Most people should benefit from it but you still have that percentage of people who was born to be negative. The words of wisdom is something that I like to hear.
@HemiLyfestyle
@HemiLyfestyle 5 жыл бұрын
I'm Buying me a Honda shadow this year and I love your reviews lol like "is a honda shadow big enough for a man" lol I subbed to you guys along time ago
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you for watching our videos
@11dremoss
@11dremoss 3 жыл бұрын
What you have articulated is in the book 7 habits of highly successful people. It’s the chapter that describes striving for a win/win situation in making agreements. Good content bro
@edwinkubena9944
@edwinkubena9944 5 жыл бұрын
I have bought about 12 bikes your advice is so great I see why you are where you are and wish you the best
@Axl_colts
@Axl_colts 3 жыл бұрын
comparing bikes may not work on used bikes but it does on new. I have two Harley dealers close to me and I have pitted them against each other for the same model of bike and ended up with a great price under MSRP. No bullshit dealer fees or freight and set up.
@Running-with-skizers
@Running-with-skizers 5 жыл бұрын
Damn Harley chain tensioners still love the bikes though
@gabrielfernandez566
@gabrielfernandez566 4 жыл бұрын
I just did that, we negotiated my trade in for their bike, everything was good, the salesman from Woodstock Harley Davidson mike morgan asked me if I’ve earned his business , and I said yes I’ll be in tomorrow, when I got there he and his corrupt finance guy sal said some one put money down on the bike this morning, I got to their lot at 10:38 he left me a voice mail at 10:45 bs, we agreed , that that bike would be mine yesterday, he never asked me for money to secure the bike, so I guess he thought I wouldn’t say anything, wrong, he basically already ran my credit for a new bike, had all the same numbers on my trade in, but for a new bike, so he attempted a bait and switch tactic, and what makes matters worse is the the owner Bill Nugent didn’t come out to correct the bad tactic, so he had to know, they called the cops on us because they said we were unruly, no we were loud and pissed off, they had no honest answers. Crooked Harley dealers ship in NY. Stay away! Great video man👍
@christopherdorsey7804
@christopherdorsey7804 3 жыл бұрын
You got lucky despite the trouble. Who knows what else they lied about.
@dnice4431
@dnice4431 5 жыл бұрын
I would have to agree with a lot of what you said. However if I am buying from a dealer I have no intentions of ever working with again (distance from me etc). I am not horribly worried about the sales staffs feelings. I am more interested in best price possible. Private sales I totally agree because they may buy from you down the road or may turn you to a deal you wouldn’t know about otherwise etc. if a dealer is honest upfront and doesn’t try to dazzle me with total bs and does right by me then I will go back repeatedly. Trust is a huge thing with me. I bought a truck that ended up having pretty major issues my mechanic found. Brought it back and the dealership apologized it even took longer than they thought to fix it but made sure everything was perfect before they gave it back. They now have a repeat customer. Not just me. My wife, son and 3 daughters as well.
@kaijunakahan7499
@kaijunakahan7499 3 жыл бұрын
1000s of words nearly 0 actual info
@quiver3320
@quiver3320 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly the Harley guy you bought the CT90 would make a great salesman. I really enjoyed that video.
@franksaxton3583
@franksaxton3583 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate a sales guy who is open and honest that he doesn't give a crap about me, the customer. None of them do, of course. But most feign that they do. They are degenerate liars.
@Wooley689
@Wooley689 5 жыл бұрын
And when the price has been settled on the phone, don't show up with less cash and try to knock the price down. Had a guy call me multiple times, each time he wanted more pictures, I gave him the rock bottom price, he still drove a couple hours, got here and said he only had X amount. I said maybe you can borrow the rest from your friend who had come with him. His friend ponied up. It's an old ploy, have your buddy hold some of the cash so you pretend what you show up with is all you have. Not my problem you drove all that way and didn't bring enough funds, you can also tell them where the closest teller machine is.
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly, that’s annoying
@bill2uok753
@bill2uok753 2 жыл бұрын
The best way to deal with someone on the bike they are selling is for the buyer to be honest. If the bike is a bad deal, walk away! If the bike is a good deal, tell the guy. He may give you a better price if you are nice rather than knocking the guy's bike down. Another person to look for is a guy who bought a new bike and needs to sell his older bike. Or if the guy is looking for a new bike to buy he will be hungry for money and get desperate or anxious.
@DannyB-cs9vx
@DannyB-cs9vx 4 жыл бұрын
A dealer in Las Vegas advertised a new bike for a grand under what list price had been plus dealer costs, ($3,599 for a Yamaha TW200). I called and said I am an hour away so before I drive for two hours there and back, I want to know the out the door price. It was $5,600. A $2,000 mark up. I saved myself a two hour drive. Now I know the price still wasn't bad, but it upset me that they would bait me with an artificially low list price.
@candlstudios
@candlstudios 5 жыл бұрын
The thing I hate hearing from dealers is "You don't have my overhead." I don't care about your overhead anymore than you care about how far I drove to check out the bike.
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Lol exactly no one cares about anyone’s over head all we care about is value you bring to the customer. It’s not the customers fault that the owner hired too many employees and drives a Range Rover
@floydbrown2142
@floydbrown2142 4 жыл бұрын
Could not be said better! We all in respectful ways, are to consider ourselves first in the deal; period. Good day
@RudinBrodic
@RudinBrodic 5 жыл бұрын
6:45 Ahahahahahahahahahahaha You guys are killing me!
@firefly17292
@firefly17292 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks I’ve learned a lot from your videos, would you ever consider buying a certified used motorcycle from a dealer a thousand miles away without physically seeing, and having it shipped? Thanks
@jairorodriguez3919
@jairorodriguez3919 2 ай бұрын
I'm currently trying to buy the new 2025 Indian scout 101 and this dam dealership won't budge. They keep saying it's a 2025 been here for one week
@brettmccafferty7510
@brettmccafferty7510 4 жыл бұрын
Can new bike prices be negotiated? I bought a new bike in 2011 and they wouldn't budge. I will be on the market for a new bike next year.
@keatonmoore7413
@keatonmoore7413 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel and great advice
@kevinbutler9373
@kevinbutler9373 4 жыл бұрын
Love the subliminal message at "don't be a jerk" at 6:45. Very funny. Very helpful video. Thanks!
@peter2679
@peter2679 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of dealers do not have your ethics.
@kevinmcgowan9691
@kevinmcgowan9691 3 жыл бұрын
I bet subscriber for 8 months learn a whole lot of stuff and I appreciate it!! My question is I want to get it Goldwing and remove the trunk, pre 2018 I know you can get F6B. But I have heard people say there is a kit but I can't find it on the web can you help a guy out?
@zaya1441
@zaya1441 4 жыл бұрын
As a dealer how strong is the cash vs finance option?
@903lew
@903lew Жыл бұрын
Very late here but the dealer always gets a kick-back on financing. Always.
@Jabb8055
@Jabb8055 2 жыл бұрын
What if I tell them I'm going to finance the bike, have them give me the total price and breakdown then go in and pay the total with a check instead of financing with them? Would the price be lowered compared to if I told them I'm paying cash? MSRP is $8,599 and the total is $12,528. Am I paying too much? I know there's taxes and assembly fees.
@megajay7065
@megajay7065 5 жыл бұрын
This should be the Bikes and Beards Bible. Top points
@kingmescalito
@kingmescalito 4 жыл бұрын
It’s been a year since you got that Harley chair, obviously it’s leaking oil by now.
@CMFOT
@CMFOT 4 жыл бұрын
Should I say that when I walk into a Harley dealership? 1:20
@fearsomename4517
@fearsomename4517 3 жыл бұрын
Never say ...I'll give you. Say would you consider, it works almost every time.
@joshuasilas3950
@joshuasilas3950 4 жыл бұрын
Is $3000 a good price for a 1999 Harley-Davidson Sportster 1200 XL?
@mikehill4776
@mikehill4776 3 жыл бұрын
you just sent this to my email .. it's like almost 2 years old .. instruction & knowledge are forever ..but .. uh .. I was like wtf .. 😳 ..haha .. 😂 Sean can you please negotiate with the Government of Iraq on our behalf .. we seem to be stuck in-between a-rock & a hard place they won't let us fly our plane in their air space .. we got no ingress/egress .. would like to ride my motorcycle but I can't get to it.. could you ride it to me?
@muhammadsteinberg
@muhammadsteinberg 2 жыл бұрын
Telling how far you drove actually shows desperation and could work against you.
@rubo1964
@rubo1964 4 жыл бұрын
wife excuse is the lamest.No real man should use wife as a weapon.If you decided to buy a bike then you get your issues sort out before talking to a seller.Its annoying and moronic.Agree budget excuse is lame too.If you can't afford it you should of not even walked in dealership.Negotiating points you stated on concrete facts are valid agree. Great video Sean!
@danieltaylor4819
@danieltaylor4819 4 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. I've sold a few vehicles over the years, and it always pisses me off when a potential buyer says, "I'll talk it over with my wife and get back to you." I mean, if you can't make that decision on your own, why are you wasting my time?
@n2meows
@n2meows 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a reliable listing of motorcycle values like there is for cars (Edmunds.com)?
@jelmarb
@jelmarb 4 жыл бұрын
Do a video on how to sell your bike please
@stephaniewashere9821
@stephaniewashere9821 5 жыл бұрын
💎- For the first of February. Thanks for the great info.
@nickh3809
@nickh3809 5 жыл бұрын
"I'm not going to make him pay more because it was convenient for him"... If that was true then every gas station and 'convenience'store would go out of business my friend 😂
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Oh I’m sorry if I did a bad job at explaining this. I sell motorcycles not gas station food.lol but I get your point
@dimesonhiseyes9134
@dimesonhiseyes9134 5 жыл бұрын
@@Srkcycles some tacos with a bike would be a good idea...
@anthonyatterberry9743
@anthonyatterberry9743 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man I put a down payment of 1200 on this motorcycle that showing price was 6000 and this guy up the price to 8300 everyone saying he’s reaping me off cycle trader saying the highest is 6700 and lowest 5999 And they say they would charge me 1200 for mods that should not cost that much and 700 for white wall tires I thinking I should take my money back but can he charge me a fee for ordering a bike that he was going to order anyway Mind you I had a appointment with this guy and I get there thinking I was going to ride the bike out and he said it was the last one I get there and he says I just sold the bike But I’m ordering more What should I do this is my first motorcycle Royal enfield continental gt 650 Msrp 5999 Set up 695 Freight 600 Doc/admin 406 Sales tax 8.88 683 Amount to finance 6183.76 Total cash price 8,383.76
@stevegriffith7236
@stevegriffith7236 5 жыл бұрын
What's with the one star, at the 9 0clock position, out of line?
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
I made that flag myself and I’m not good at circles lol
@Go_Show95
@Go_Show95 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info I'd buy you a beer pretty sure sales guys might not be so cordial
@stopdalies
@stopdalies 4 жыл бұрын
Haha no price matching here🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@morrisdennis
@morrisdennis 2 жыл бұрын
Legend
@_LAND_OF_THE_FREE_
@_LAND_OF_THE_FREE_ 3 жыл бұрын
Get a loan from you're local credit union before you walk in .
@blakemerryman3563
@blakemerryman3563 4 жыл бұрын
Being clear and concise is key.. could have been an awesome 6-8 min video
@MatchBookNotes
@MatchBookNotes 3 жыл бұрын
Are you a bit neurodivergent?
@onestopshopsloptherop6129
@onestopshopsloptherop6129 5 жыл бұрын
Good video, but does anyone notice that tongue click he does sometimes when he talks??? I hate that so much haha
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah everyone notices it, and we all hate it but he does it so much that we all just stop mentioning it lol
@onestopshopsloptherop6129
@onestopshopsloptherop6129 5 жыл бұрын
Keep up the work love you guys haha
@chieflongsock
@chieflongsock 5 жыл бұрын
Yup breathes through his nose and lip smacks constantly...very annoying...some videos are unwatchable because of it
@mrobinson8686
@mrobinson8686 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone have any advice for buying a bike that's 200 miles away? It's brand new and $1.3k cheaper than anything close. It'll be my first bike and it'll be my daily commute. Used with mileage are selling for $2.5k. This is going for $3.6.
@amb158
@amb158 3 жыл бұрын
Dickheads are the biggest turn around for me. I think most functional people can agree they don’t want anything to do with people who are ducks for no reason. I’ve walked away from many a transaction because I didn’t like the other guys attitude. The next one down for me is acting like you know more than you actually. That drives me nuts. But don’t be a dick! Number one thing not to do
@romanticopoeta7532
@romanticopoeta7532 4 жыл бұрын
"Does every dude that rides a bike, needs to grow a Santa claus beard"?
@ulramlao5698
@ulramlao5698 4 жыл бұрын
Nope! Beard or no beard can ride as long as one doesn’t look like you!!! #realtalk
@w.harrison7277
@w.harrison7277 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is incoherent to me. He should script out what he wants to say instead of trying to wing it verbally on overly broad topics. He’s not clear.
@TheRealKing1
@TheRealKing1 4 жыл бұрын
This video was a waste of time. U didnt talk about any dealer fees.
@timetraveler2yearsago758
@timetraveler2yearsago758 3 жыл бұрын
Holy hell, I cant watch this guy. The sniffing and lip smacking enrages me.
@charleswilcher4148
@charleswilcher4148 4 жыл бұрын
every bike i have bought i paid 800 for this honda shadow ace 750 i bought ladt year the guy wanted 1000 and i talked him down to 800
@jetson2075
@jetson2075 4 жыл бұрын
Chop off your moustache and you might be able to breath. Your breathing noise is very annoying.
@kpezpeople
@kpezpeople 5 жыл бұрын
What is he talking about..????
@shiddygamer2474
@shiddygamer2474 5 жыл бұрын
That one star keeps distracting me
@amanieltekie5873
@amanieltekie5873 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@michaeltyler1834
@michaeltyler1834 4 жыл бұрын
REALLY?!? You just had to bring everyone else in to your neuroticism haha... shit is driving me crazy now
@alvarohernandez2131
@alvarohernandez2131 4 жыл бұрын
i spent all video looking at the star
@barkindustry8150
@barkindustry8150 4 жыл бұрын
Hate you.... All I can stare at now... lol
@garyguiste
@garyguiste 4 жыл бұрын
My CDO can’t handle it either... (has to be alphabetized, otherwise that dose not feel right either 😁)
@edwardj456
@edwardj456 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. I've bought and sold over 50-60 cars/trucks/MCs in my life and when I finally, about 25 years ago, settled on the concept of win-win, both buyer-seller happy, my own happiness increased much. It came about by studying Stoicism. Realizing that I can't read someone's mind so don't presume to know motive. Simply be fair for my own good. Life is so much simpler.
@aldo5658
@aldo5658 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool bro. I have the same idea when buying a bike. I pay a fair price, seller isn't low balled, reasonable price, I get a bike I want & evryone is happy
@Kyle899
@Kyle899 3 жыл бұрын
“I drove 3 hours” That’s leverage for the seller, then you better buy it and not “waste” your time.
@hidinfrombiden6251
@hidinfrombiden6251 3 жыл бұрын
Shit I don't mind driving 3 hours back with my money in my pocket😂.
@Based360pEnjoyer
@Based360pEnjoyer 4 ай бұрын
If im driving 3 hours to go look ive likely got 3 or 4 more bikes nearby im looking at anyway.
@Emilio0587
@Emilio0587 5 жыл бұрын
Just shows how ignorant some people are, I’ve had similar experience: Coworker says he likes my truck and how much would I be willing sell it for. I say it’s not for sale and he still goes with the “oh I seen them for X amount of dollars with less miles and way nicer looking... 😑 Ok go buy it then?!?! Some people are flat stupid and it shows.
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@movsestimiryan3854
@movsestimiryan3854 4 жыл бұрын
Emilio0587--- I know, right? Then go buy that truck... If it exists. Why does he then bother you?
@dobermanpac1064
@dobermanpac1064 4 жыл бұрын
Walking into a dealership gives you the same losing feelings you get in Las Vegas 😎
@dgkman5310
@dgkman5310 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@ribetacademydso9136
@ribetacademydso9136 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Sparkes ... why would you get a "losing feeling" like Vegas when you walk into a dealership?. You must be buying Harley Davidson because.. .Japanese manufactures artificially depress the retail value of their bike in the USA Japanese manufacturer own their own bank and off buyers 0 percent financing Japanese manufactures offer 130% financing of the retail price of the bike Japanese manufactures offer 5 year unlimited mileage warranty
@200235THSS2037
@200235THSS2037 Жыл бұрын
I owned both, Harley is so much better and the dealership is so personal. Buy American
@murasakifjc
@murasakifjc 4 жыл бұрын
Road out to a honda dealership in springfield, MO last night to get a trade value and check out the used bike they had, which was a good deal - turns out they have all the used bikes sitting out in an open awning and they are filthy. Then we start talking prices and the same guy who told me the listed price was the OTD price, tells me that there are some fees for them having *checked*(rather than changed) the fluids and chain when it rolled into the dealership months ago. They wanted another $160 just to check, NOT CHANGE, the fluids. Then they wanted a "maintenance fee" of $200 for keeping it clean. I guess water spots, crusty dirt and gummed up chain is the new definition of clean. They wanted to value my bike for $1500 under the NADA low value that they claimed they went by on their website and reviews. I physically laughed out loud and left. What a joke. 260 mile trip for a bunch of BS, will never do it again. Froze my ass off during that ride, so I learned multiple lessons. Thanks, Honda of the Ozarks!
@jamesdspaderf2883
@jamesdspaderf2883 4 жыл бұрын
"my wife says I can only spend $5000" - dude, motorcycling ain't for you, consider golf LMAO
@rubo1964
@rubo1964 4 жыл бұрын
man without pants! is no man
@raymondgarafano8604
@raymondgarafano8604 4 жыл бұрын
The only balls he has are off the golf course. Poor bastard, 1 would think he'd be ashamed to say that.
@jasongraham3488
@jasongraham3488 4 жыл бұрын
Sure hope that guy don't take up fishing.
@nonaubiz8939
@nonaubiz8939 5 жыл бұрын
I rarely pay what a seller is asking, but I have never left someone feeling like they shouldn't have sold it to me. There's a point where I save as much as I can, but when you can see the seller starting to get to the point of just telling you to leave, you're probably going past the good deal point to "Get the heck of my property!" Haha. Good points.
@KJ-ym1qg
@KJ-ym1qg 4 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to buy a new dirt bike with cash. Its been incredible how rude the dealerships have been. I went to a dealership that Ive bought 3 bikes from and they wouldn't come off 1 dollar on a left over 2020 model. Its been very annoying and made we not want to buy from them ever again. They keep hitting me with the well there is no inventory but the bikes been on the floor for 45 days. Im driving out of the state to buy if no one local wants to make a sell.
@JordanNiks
@JordanNiks 2 жыл бұрын
As a salesman in a different industry: this is probably the only video that I’ve seen that is spot on :) well done sir. I’d like to add that nobody needs to be an A-hole even if you decide to walk away. It’s ok to not meet on a price… if you are not ok walking away, pay the asking price.
@enthused7591
@enthused7591 5 жыл бұрын
4:25 In a private party sale, it makes a lot of sense to ask for a completely firm price, and it makes a ton of sense as a buyer to pay that completely firm price, if everyone's asking $5,000 for a bike, it's really worth $4,600, and that "firm" price you found is for $4,400. That firm price is discounted a couple percent below market value without you even having to ask for it because the seller just happens to be a very fair person who doesn't want to field phone calls for 3 weeks. Firm deals are in many cases, the most fair deals you can find. You just need to make sure you know market value.
@joshuahanesworth4894
@joshuahanesworth4894 5 ай бұрын
I feel like that is rarely the firm deals I come across it’s just people overpricing their crap and not wanting people to drag them down but maybe it’s just where I am or something lol
@kirkjohnson9353
@kirkjohnson9353 5 жыл бұрын
I had a guy look at a bike I had for sale once. He was such a jerk I told him to get off of my property. He then offered me what I had asked for the bike . I said "I guess you didn't hear me. Get off of my property. I'm not selling you ANYTHING at ANY price". One of the few times I let emotions get in the way of making a deal. I'm still glad I did it. Some times you gotta stand up for your self no matter what.
@HemiLyfestyle
@HemiLyfestyle 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah good job, I had a woman do the same to me, really pissed me off. She was pointing out imperfections I told her, I'm not a dealership..
@kirkjohnson9353
@kirkjohnson9353 5 жыл бұрын
@@HemiLyfestyle Hit the road lady!
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah don’t let people beat you up like that
@rickydrone9274
@rickydrone9274 5 жыл бұрын
Good move !! If you would have sold it, he probably would have then haunted you with petty and goofy complaints.
@kennethwise7108
@kennethwise7108 5 жыл бұрын
99.99% of Dealerships won't give you what Bluebook value is for your trade in and that's what gets my goat. I left a place once due to being low balled by $500 less than what the Bluebook value was. I mean, why bother even having a Bluebook value on ANYTHING if it's not adhered to? I ended up getting my trade in value met AND got a better deal on the bike I wanted at another dealership. Bottom line, if you're not satisfied and the dealership isnt willing to work with you GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!
@carsonthe3rd
@carsonthe3rd 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed,ive had dealerships tell me "oh we dont go by the blue book" whether i was buying or trading in
@kennethwise7108
@kennethwise7108 5 жыл бұрын
@@carsonthe3rd ridiculous isnt it? I've walked out the door more than once due to them "not using the Bluebook"
@nanotech2691
@nanotech2691 20 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
@nanotech2691
@nanotech2691 20 күн бұрын
I've been told the same thing. I guess dealer prices trump bluebook prices.
@bonnevillebagger9147
@bonnevillebagger9147 5 жыл бұрын
Lol, at the Caleb flash frame.
@kevincragwell3220
@kevincragwell3220 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean, it's been a year since the recording but I found it to be extremely helpful as I am getting ready to purchase my first bike. I wish SRK was closer, I would come see your inventory. I am a subscriber to both your channels and enjoy the content...keep up the good work.
@ken2tou
@ken2tou Жыл бұрын
They don’t sell bikes anymore.
@jasongraham3488
@jasongraham3488 4 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see an update of this video concept with modifications to take into account the covid 19, and civil unrest crises. I'm fairly certain that fewer people are trying to buy motorcycles now, but I was just looking for a sporty and my local HD has a '16 Dyna for the same 9k they are asking for an '08 Nightster.
@flip_moto
@flip_moto 5 жыл бұрын
problem with this advice, it's all good, but it assumes the dealership/sales know what they are doing. I was looking to buy a specific Triumph model, but not a specific year, or whether a show room, or used version. There was 3 at the dealership, with prices all over the place. I called ahead, set-up a test ride, new the prices ahead, but confused as to why the used '17 version was priced higher than the 'new 18 model, while the '19 model had a dealer incentive. The sales person had no idea of any of it. What I wanted to be maybe an hour or two to figure out the best deal, this bloke wasted an hour of time to come back with MSRP prices that were not even from the website. I said, no way am I gonna waste a saturday while you figure out what serial numbers are worth whatever. Told him to email prices. He followed up with a text message if I was still interested. no prices, no specifics. fack you.
@Srkcycles
@Srkcycles 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that sucks. Yes the dealer needs to know something
@vcantu3800
@vcantu3800 5 жыл бұрын
I say, buy right before Christmas... Some people can really use the money for gifts...
@Cheaps928
@Cheaps928 4 жыл бұрын
Companys have enough money for gifts what do you mean?
@mynamejeff2006
@mynamejeff2006 2 жыл бұрын
Walking away from a bad deal is sometimes hard but the amount of bikes out there is limitless.
@michealjones9304
@michealjones9304 3 жыл бұрын
Sean, that was one , if not the, best video I have watched on negotiations hands down. I am in the process of buying a used bike and your advice named several things I am/was doing wrong. Thank you !!!!
@wolfster2287
@wolfster2287 Жыл бұрын
Last week I walked out of a motorcycle dealership because of the ridiculous price they tried to sell me the motorcycle. It was a 2012 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 for $3850. Great price until the sales guy says he’s going to run some numbers and came back with a $5950 price. $2100 on top of the original price. I was so shocked I didn’t even look at the breakdown. I know it he added sales tax, assembly fee, document fee, and all this crap. What is mind-boggling to me is that in this country they actually make you finance all these charges. Talk about bend over event. these charges should not even be added until the very end. you should not finance a document fee, or an assembly fee, etc. On top of that they came back with the 18% interest rate. The dealership was RideNow Motorsports. Crazy!
@EndingDARKSOUL
@EndingDARKSOUL 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to get my first bike tomorrow, and out of all the videos I've watched this is differently one of the most well made informed videos I've seen
@chieflongsock
@chieflongsock 5 жыл бұрын
2 seconds in and hes already lip smacking hahaha...annoying as hell!
@jamesoren7238
@jamesoren7238 4 жыл бұрын
Only other advice I’ve learnt over the years is that we generally don’t wake up in the morning and say ‘I’m gonna trade my bike today’. Normally we know in a little while we’ll be trading and start looking around. Keep an eye on the bikes that aren’t moving. Then when you’re ready you’ve got an instant hit list of bikes that have been sitting at a dealer a couple of months. It’s hit and miss. Generally I find 2/3 times it’s because the photos are overly flattering and they’ve had months of people rocking up and thinking ‘oh.’, but about a third of the time the ad’s as accurate as any other and it’s a good place to start. But as the video says don’t be a dick & rock up like ‘I know you can’t sell this bike, so you’ll sell it to me for half’, be nice, polite have a chat about the bike, and make them an offer. As is always the way, if they say no, just walk. If you’re too invested in a bike you haven’t bought yet yoy’re Not getting a good deal. Bikes are mass produced and most models you have a lot of options. If the dealer will cut a deal, take it, if not, try to understand why and try somewhere else so long as the reason isn’t ‘my expectations are ludicrous’ Great vid though. TBH one of the reasons 80% of my bikes have come from dealers is that it’s usually easy to find a dealer that will deal whilst private sellers are more often a total PITA.
@FunWithAJ
@FunWithAJ 5 жыл бұрын
My main gripe with dealerships are bait and switch tactics. I typically email or call dealerships first prior to driving 50 plus miles and ask about specific bikes and ask if there is any room for negotiation on the price. If they say yes then if I go there they better be willing to wiggle. However some dealerships I've found bait you in and the say we wont budge (Cough BMW Motorcycles of Long Beach cough)
@bobmizen1
@bobmizen1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight Sean. Perhaps one point for buyers is to be familiar with your local dealer. Have a look around now and again, buy something from them like chain lube (unless you’ve got a shaft drive😁) or riding gear. Someone once said to me ‘It’s nice to be nice’. Regards, Bob M.
@MrMochajoe14
@MrMochajoe14 5 жыл бұрын
"Don't be a jerk" Popup pic of caleb!! 😂😂 6:45
@macflex22
@macflex22 Жыл бұрын
At the dealerships, should you always negotiate out the door total numbers or just price numbers? I know some dealerships add on extra random fees
@hellraiserrec19
@hellraiserrec19 8 ай бұрын
Personally, I always look at out the door cost. At the end of the day the out the door price is what you are paying or financing. How they get to the number is irrelevant
@JDR0357
@JDR0357 3 жыл бұрын
Is it good to pay cash or let them know you will be paying cash?
@brandonboss6868
@brandonboss6868 Ай бұрын
Kelley Blue book says my bike is 4,140 but is selling in the dealership for 4,699. Do i negotiate based off kelley blue book. Or what source should i go off of?
@marceaton3128
@marceaton3128 Жыл бұрын
Wanna buy a 2020 Street Glide Special? 3400 miles, had my lower back fusion surgery two years ago this February. Can’t get the suspension to stop sending shocks up my back when I hit bumps. Road a Goldwing and it was easier on the back. I love to ride, but can’t ride this Harley. I’ll bring it to you.
@akeithan
@akeithan 4 жыл бұрын
I wish more people would watch this video... only thing is people who need to learn about this are the ones that NOT watching this now
@mikeyikesem3828
@mikeyikesem3828 4 жыл бұрын
I found a bike I really wanted all done up 2014 Harley Davidson fxdb at a car dealership for 8999 when I contacted to pretty much try and seal the deal on the purchase they ended up selling the bike a couple days prior . I found the exact same bike from that dealership up for sale at another car dealership for 15999 lol. My question is do you think it’s possible to get that price lowered .
@owenthomas9793
@owenthomas9793 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like two dealership owners viewed this vid
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