How to Paint Night Lords Chaos Space Marines for Warhammer 40,000 with Duncan Rhodes.

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@consecrated2718
@consecrated2718 3 жыл бұрын
“Now in citadel’s range there is a color Nightlord’s blue but screw that I’m a rebel and we’re going for Kantor Blue *flicks cigarette*”
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
You know it 😎
@warhounds
@warhounds 3 жыл бұрын
you know im even more rebel since i use macragge blue...
@Cairanmac1
@Cairanmac1 3 жыл бұрын
@@warhounds I tried that, hate it. Got an airbrush and a bunch of Night Lords blue. No rugrats
@papazoulou9326
@papazoulou9326 3 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Any ideas on how to replace glorious Mordian Blue?
@lunaevelyn-rose9376
@lunaevelyn-rose9376 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy with a half and half mix of VGC Night Blue and VMC Dark Blue
@marioroman555
@marioroman555 3 жыл бұрын
Stop tempting me into starting a new army with such a cool paint job, Duncan!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
oh...but you want too, you really want too....😁
@grantosjones
@grantosjones 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say the exact same thing... I've got so many orks to paint you can't be tempting me to start a new army, Duncan 😅
@stoffeandersson9768
@stoffeandersson9768 3 жыл бұрын
Always been tempted to start a nightlords army! and after seeing this video the temptation is really strong! I love their paint scheme!
@priestking8636
@priestking8636 3 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Hello! Could you plaease sometimes make a vid with an unusial Necron cokor scheme, that is not highly concentrated on metal?
@tobysmith4925
@tobysmith4925 2 жыл бұрын
Literally painting up a new nightlords army after watching this video
@conradabdullah3189
@conradabdullah3189 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you showing the Night Lords some love! Amazing work as always, Duncan! IN MIDNIGHT CLAD!
@Sidraughen
@Sidraughen 3 жыл бұрын
Sons of our Father, stand in midnight clad. We bring the night!
@CyberDagger003
@CyberDagger003 3 жыл бұрын
Ave Dominus Nox! We have come for you!
@emile1365
@emile1365 3 жыл бұрын
Duncan proving once again that GW was holding him back with another Legion paint scheme. Beyond Based.
@texas_gamer8842
@texas_gamer8842 3 жыл бұрын
Duncan, Thank you for being the Bob Ross of my generation. I love to see your videos in my alerts. And as always, get a smile on my face when you say the thing. =)
@tucan6376
@tucan6376 3 жыл бұрын
Duncan, I don't know if you'll ever read this, but thank you. Absolutely one of the most wholesome and relaxing channels on YT. Keep doing what you're doing!
@siriandelgaro3806
@siriandelgaro3806 3 жыл бұрын
Duncan is secretly primarch of one ot he lost legions...and now raise his army again..unseen by the imperium
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Shhhh.......🤫
@timodonnell6870
@timodonnell6870 3 жыл бұрын
There i am, painting one of my Night Lords marines when the notification for this video pops up
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
It's meant to be 😊
@lonecolamarine
@lonecolamarine 3 жыл бұрын
START OVER! lmao
@TheKlabim
@TheKlabim 3 жыл бұрын
Somewhere in the u.s. Ninjon is taking notes for his new army
@madmanvarietyshow9605
@madmanvarietyshow9605 3 жыл бұрын
Minnesota. That's where he's from lol in case you're curious.
@josht3534
@josht3534 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@jasonmolenaar119
@jasonmolenaar119 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's the best painter- after God emperor of 2 thin coats
@GentrifiedPotato
@GentrifiedPotato 3 жыл бұрын
Idea: paint some Emperor's Children and make them as eye-wateringly neon as possible. We should physically hurt seeing the finished product.
@jasonmolenaar119
@jasonmolenaar119 3 жыл бұрын
I'm all for it
@CyberDagger003
@CyberDagger003 3 жыл бұрын
Someone get Stuart Semple on the line!
@jackolantern9034
@jackolantern9034 3 жыл бұрын
just skip paints entirely and color them with highlighter juice
@primeknight4274
@primeknight4274 3 жыл бұрын
I did that with the pinkest pink pigment
@Tekkaman76
@Tekkaman76 Жыл бұрын
I could watch Duncan paint for hours...it is humbling
@DBSG1976
@DBSG1976 3 жыл бұрын
Your first few coats are already beyond table top quality, you could stop at the first wash and absolutely have a beautiful army.
@mayofrench5170
@mayofrench5170 3 жыл бұрын
Another good video. I really appreciate the "you can stop here" for battle ready if you want to. When painting playing pieces not every one needs the full (time consuming) treatment.
@zeb9826
@zeb9826 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice always remind me of your old video tutorials on warhammer tv around 2011 when I started the hobby, and it invokes lots of good memories of painting next to your videos,and wanting to improve myself. I really am happy that you keep doing this, it takes me back there
@TitusVarus
@TitusVarus 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Duncan. I've been in and out of the hobby for 25 years, and I've learned more from your videos in the last few months than I ever did anywhere else.
@brains4845
@brains4845 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. I've been tempted to start some Night Lords since I read Aaron Dembski-Bowden books, now I am even more tempted Duncan.... I think I can hear the distinctive cries of my bank balance hitting zero XD
@octaviusquentin3146
@octaviusquentin3146 3 жыл бұрын
I don't play or paint night lords but damn is it always useful to watch these videos
@Redem10
@Redem10 3 жыл бұрын
You had me rethink my Chaos Space Marine plan because of how beautiful these Night Lords are. I'm almost dreading you coming out with a Salamanders tutorial before I'm done with my current batch of minis.
@maxm9886
@maxm9886 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video! I've been collecting black legion for a while but now I'm tempted to start a night lords army.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Do it! Can you have too many Chaos Armies?
@niallreid7664
@niallreid7664 3 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Dunno, I'll ask the repo men at my front door.
@alfadasfire
@alfadasfire 3 жыл бұрын
Wow just on time!! I was about to start painting my Nightlords!!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Guess it's your lucky day 😊
@athollmcnicoll256
@athollmcnicoll256 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone bar Andy from Big Mech Paint Studio painting up these extremely decorative Marines. Cheers Duncan, good job.
@hewlett-packardlovecraft2297
@hewlett-packardlovecraft2297 3 жыл бұрын
Well hello there! Wonderful video, as always. I've been watching you since the old Warhammer TV days, but through youtube on a ps3. Finally joined the pc world, and now I can comment on, and share your uploads. I want to genuinely thank you for 100's of hours of quality entertainment- I constantly re-watch your videos, new and old, and am looking forward to 100's more. Can't wait for your next one. You are single-handedly responsible for re-igniting my passion for painting minis after years of wanting to get back into it, and for that, I can't thank you enough. Keep up the good work, and have a great weekend.
@vladkriuk5156
@vladkriuk5156 3 жыл бұрын
Legendary as usual, much appreciated. Will adapt these technologies for my Ultramarines.
@ironfiststudioandminiature2512
@ironfiststudioandminiature2512 3 жыл бұрын
just take my money please. when I got into painting miniature Duncan was my go to and still is. keep it up man
@andro4885
@andro4885 3 жыл бұрын
Currently building my Night Lords Kill Team. Your tutorial helped a lot.
@DarkDramon
@DarkDramon 3 жыл бұрын
YES! YES ! YES!!!! And thanks for explaining why almost every Night lords painting video doesn't use the night lord's blue. I always wondered why they weren't using a dedicated blue to that legion. I've always used NL blue. But this is awesome, thanks!
@pancakemogul
@pancakemogul 3 жыл бұрын
I need to see more models painted with Night Lords Blue. Still think Kantor Blue is a smidge too bright but maybe Nuln Oil evens it out.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@MatthewBester
@MatthewBester 3 жыл бұрын
So nice to watch. I haven't painted in months but it now feels like huge hurdle to start up again...
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Matthew. If you feel the urge just do it. Have fun with it and see where it takes you ☺
@daitokuji8327
@daitokuji8327 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss! Night Lords. Looking great Duncan
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@thehonestaspy102
@thehonestaspy102 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the guide Duncan, it's really helping me get a start on my Night Lords though I must admit, painting a full squad of 10 in one batch is pushing my patience to it's limits 😅
@Beadlayer69
@Beadlayer69 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a night lords army, you have impeccable timing Duncan :)
@johnspartan15
@johnspartan15 3 жыл бұрын
If I could bring myself to support the taint of Chaos I’d have to make it this army. Fantastic job!!!! Best teacher on the internet
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Richard 😊
@Make_A_ChangeKYSelf
@Make_A_ChangeKYSelf 4 ай бұрын
Night Lords are not chaos
@edwindrood2816
@edwindrood2816 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation of the undercoat decison
@WhitishSine8
@WhitishSine8 Жыл бұрын
It's a very good timing to see this video since the NL KT was just announced and I was really wondering how was I supposed to paint the lighting on the armor. I'll definitely rewatch this video when the set comes out and gets in my hands
@26reef1
@26reef1 3 жыл бұрын
The OG of warhammer model painting.
@GeekySkippy
@GeekySkippy Ай бұрын
Thanks for this tutorial. Looking to get my nemesis kill team painted up for the new edition and of course I found you had the exact tutorial for me.
@HacksawsHobbyBunker
@HacksawsHobbyBunker 3 жыл бұрын
My late friend Bob had a Night Lords army, I know he would have said that this was most excellent. I would concur, cracking job as always. Cheers!
@mattvandart9055
@mattvandart9055 3 жыл бұрын
if you want to resolve the slippery gold problem you can blat some matt varnish or matt medium over the gold spray and it's all good
@Jarvo-ed6pj
@Jarvo-ed6pj 3 жыл бұрын
Duncan you beautiful bastard, never change
@KameradArktis
@KameradArktis 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Duncan i was getting discouraged painting my alpha legion and the tips provided like painting the trim first really helped me get my 2nd csm completed
@bingorobins1010
@bingorobins1010 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work duncan.
@bitzbox
@bitzbox 3 жыл бұрын
Good timing! I've been working on some Raptors and Warp Talons that I'm painting up as Night Lords
@MrKrabz675
@MrKrabz675 3 жыл бұрын
I know I’m late to the party here but that advice about the retributor armour spray was really interesting. I’d love a video where you elaborate more on the small tips you give in your tutorials
@Avindells
@Avindells 11 ай бұрын
God damn beautiful Duncan! I’ve just picked up painting again efter a 27 year hiatus and was leaning to join the ranks of Blood Angels but after watching this…screw them - team Chaos it is! Keep up the great work!
@Make_A_ChangeKYSelf
@Make_A_ChangeKYSelf 4 ай бұрын
NLs aren't chaos
@michaelslack7359
@michaelslack7359 3 жыл бұрын
Great video all round. Clear instructions and easy to follow. High production value all with a great scheme to boot. Fantastic work Duncan keep them coming!
@o8thmsmunchieman
@o8thmsmunchieman 3 жыл бұрын
I've needed some help painting my own Night Lords. Thank you!
@ThijsSchrijnemakers
@ThijsSchrijnemakers 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work Duncan!
@squallgoku777
@squallgoku777 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, I pretty much followed is as I painted up my Night Lords Kill Team today! Love your work!
@perisdahl569
@perisdahl569 3 жыл бұрын
Like the layout in the tutorial with paint name/brand and brush/brand, and that you summarize in the comments. The words that comes to mind when watching this is "brush control". The years of experience makes it look so easy. When you added the white to the freehand lightning, I was like "there is that brush control." Each time I watch you paint a citadel model I really want to start that army. But I have commited to Alpha Legion and Thousand Sons after watching you paint them for GW earlier. (Although TS pre-heresy scheme using Angron Red Clear Air with a brush over gold in two thin coates)
@terminatoruk4921
@terminatoruk4921 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Duncan - I love how straight forward and clean this scheme is - absolutely perfect rendition of what I would have loved to have accomplished in the 90's! Was just about to do Black Legion too and have Abaddon built - gah - tough choice now! Might have to do two detachments! :-D
@zeropelli7026
@zeropelli7026 Жыл бұрын
this really helped me paint my soulblight blood knights for AoS thanks
@colinb9884
@colinb9884 3 жыл бұрын
Great paint job Duncan 👍🏻
@muttman12
@muttman12 Жыл бұрын
I love the users choice that 40K has, I Started listening to The Night Lords novel series and decided they would be my first army and the Night Lords blue looks closer to what I imagined so I'm going with that, but I do plan on taking some creative liberties with the trim, either way great video, very helpful, thank you.
@onizubaii8265
@onizubaii8265 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a new Warhammer painter and the Video helps me a lot thank you so much
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help and welcome to this wonderful hobby
@TooMiniModels
@TooMiniModels 3 жыл бұрын
Love the lightning, great video like always.
@doot_slayer
@doot_slayer 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re going through the chaos space marines I’d love to see the Alpha Legion, they’re my favourite chaos paint scheme.
@CyberDagger003
@CyberDagger003 3 жыл бұрын
Duncan already covered the Alpha Legion, but that video is subscribers only.
@doot_slayer
@doot_slayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@CyberDagger003 you mean subscribed to this channel, or somewhere else?
@CyberDagger003
@CyberDagger003 3 жыл бұрын
@@doot_slayer The Academy website
@a6mzeke1
@a6mzeke1 2 жыл бұрын
I mostly started watching because of the Battletech figure, but watching all the techniques being shown off is as relaxing as watching a Bob Ross show from when I was growing up.
@xanadu7686
@xanadu7686 3 жыл бұрын
My Prayers are answered! Thanks Duncan :D
@coltonsmorong
@coltonsmorong 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos. Unlike other channels, your step by step process provides me confidence while painting my first miniature starter set.
@zawisy
@zawisy 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thanks Duncan!
@ELITESrBAMOFOS945
@ELITESrBAMOFOS945 3 жыл бұрын
Duncan? Painting my absolute favorite Legion? Yaaaas primarch! AVE DOMINUS NOX!
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 3 жыл бұрын
It looks great! Thanks for sharing this.
@conradskinner7036
@conradskinner7036 3 жыл бұрын
You should try painting one of those McFarlane 7”Space Marine Primaris
@genelearnsenglish4242
@genelearnsenglish4242 3 жыл бұрын
Me, a Word Bearers player: Excellent, another enlightened brother joins the Long War.
@CloneShockTrooper
@CloneShockTrooper 3 жыл бұрын
same here.. and now I am working on a warband from the 14th.
@madmanvarietyshow9605
@madmanvarietyshow9605 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. My Iron Warriors stand ready to fight the Long War! IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT
@emile1365
@emile1365 3 жыл бұрын
@@madmanvarietyshow9605 Hello, fellow Iron Bro.
@kabronex9877
@kabronex9877 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh I hope Duncan does Word Bearers
@madmanvarietyshow9605
@madmanvarietyshow9605 3 жыл бұрын
@@emile1365 🤘🤘🤘 And if he doesn't I'll recommend Pete the Wargamer's Word Bearers video.
@spaceemountain
@spaceemountain 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never gotten out of bed so fast
@samcook6368
@samcook6368 3 жыл бұрын
This came up in my recommendations two days after I painted my first model in nearly a year. Night Lords biker. Apparently I had generally the right idea except I did the metallic trim after the panels, I did Corax White spray, and I used some slightly different colors.
@edwardhayes6816
@edwardhayes6816 3 жыл бұрын
Small suggestion, have you ever done one of the original Badab War colour schemes? The colours are mad compared to what the current Canon schemes are for the chapters
@britishgypsum4347
@britishgypsum4347 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these videos as they give so much inspiration and ideas. I do a little bit of railway modelling so it is great to learn techniques from other hobbies.
@Antonh.
@Antonh. 3 жыл бұрын
As always, looks amazing!
@kamrenjones1641
@kamrenjones1641 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered some of the nuln oil, it looks so good !!
@vthunder4238
@vthunder4238 3 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes yes yes thank you I love the night lords!
@brainafk9481
@brainafk9481 2 жыл бұрын
Your Sir, are a true master !
@josharnold3450
@josharnold3450 3 жыл бұрын
That looks amazing, great video Duncan! If a new chaos codex and units comes out would love to see some of them too
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
That would be cool Josh!
@worldnomad8661
@worldnomad8661 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Tutorial ... really enjoyed watching! Love the colour scheme on this miniature. 👍 Really pleased I found this channel , as it will definately help me to improve my painting skills
@hybrid_lord
@hybrid_lord 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh thank you for this video. Glad I found this today. I’ve spent too much at this point on my night lords and feel like all gear no idea 😔 so thank you. Subbed for more.
@cole445
@cole445 3 жыл бұрын
Duncan, you legend! Where was this when i started NLs last year? They look beautiful!
@menin91
@menin91 3 жыл бұрын
Duncan is truly the God Emperor of Mankind, helping our species to progress without taking too much credit for it
@stephenthornton2115
@stephenthornton2115 Ай бұрын
This is. Superb tutorial
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA Ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@warden-commandercousland
@warden-commandercousland 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my RPG Group of Night Lords thanks you, Oh Great Master of the Paints
@danielmatei4590
@danielmatei4590 3 жыл бұрын
There are some amazing Night Lords 3rd party parts (helmet and shoulder pads) with lots of details , i wish you could do a video on how to approach that kind of detail. Anyway thank you for the video , masterful as always.
@pancakemogul
@pancakemogul 3 жыл бұрын
Highly doubt it'll happen now that they're illegal in official tournaments. Which is even more ridiculous with how terrible GW's "upgrade packs" are for Night Lords, Noise Marines and Khorne Berzerkers.
@superanimeniac
@superanimeniac 3 жыл бұрын
@@pancakemogul no, they're illegal in GW-run official tournaments. and they always have been. You've NEVER been allowed to use anything but 100% GW model at GW specific events.
@pancakemogul
@pancakemogul 3 жыл бұрын
@@superanimeniac Yes... they're illegal in official tournaments. That's what I said. Regardless, the fact remains. No way Dunc & Rog would do a tutorial on a model that has limited usability.
@superanimeniac
@superanimeniac 3 жыл бұрын
@@pancakemogul ...they've already done 3D printed models, and you realize that there are far more 'official tournaments' than those run by GW, right? Hell, they themselves report on other tournaments and base their FAQs off non-GW tournaments.
@whofreakincares1000
@whofreakincares1000 3 жыл бұрын
I tried priming gold then using leviadon blue contrast to base paint the panels. Was a real brain saver as I hate painting trim
@TheSynthisis
@TheSynthisis 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great video and I am leaving with some tips for painting my chaos marines better. Only thing I can say in disagreement is I think that both the boots could have used more lightning or more noticeable bolts.
@manofaction1807
@manofaction1807 2 жыл бұрын
Second reason to use Kantor Blue is the washes. (THAT, and then when you add lightning, it stands out more.)
@Nostroman_Praetor
@Nostroman_Praetor Жыл бұрын
i personally like to have my Night Lords trimmed in silver instead of gold as it makes them look a little bit more clean and stealthy. I also make use of their armor's surface for large lightning bolts stretching across their armor and various blood splatters but that's just my guys, I feel Night Lords can look however they want to kitbashed as long as their colors are correct.
@thompsonsj64
@thompsonsj64 Жыл бұрын
Will you do a bonus video on how to paint flayed skin?
@snakedpogo
@snakedpogo Ай бұрын
Got into warhammer thru space marine 2, and im so excited to start painting my nemesis claw kill team. Thanks for the guide. Any tips for painting the mounted corpse on the ventrilokar?
@LeFarfafred
@LeFarfafred 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Duncan. If you take wishlist or requests, I'd love to see your take on a Word Bearers Chaos Space Marine.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
We have a full tutorial on that very miniature on our website (duncanrhodes.com) 😊
@DFloyd84
@DFloyd84 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work. The Night Haunter would be pleased. He may even decide not to skin you alive.
@SpaceUndies
@SpaceUndies 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance of seeing a Word Bearers tutorial sometime in the future?
@cory7328
@cory7328 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job. I really love the Night Lords look. what colors would you use for The Scourged chaos marines?
@Iceeagle85
@Iceeagle85 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like it is finally time to paint my Sevatar
@alexanderflausa2478
@alexanderflausa2478 3 жыл бұрын
Soooo. When will you take on the alpha legion color schem ;). Getting redy to start an army of the hydra.
@karolinakakucha7879
@karolinakakucha7879 3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider making a painting tutorrial for one of the new kruleboyz models?
@X.davidWilliams
@X.davidWilliams 3 жыл бұрын
Huzzah,, Top Notch sir.
@havel4385
@havel4385 2 жыл бұрын
quick questions about brushes: for the gold would a citadel small base brush work for the blue would a medium base brush again citadel work?
@nikolayrozanov4202
@nikolayrozanov4202 3 жыл бұрын
Video inspired me to pick up a box of csm. One thing I don't understand is why do the gold first? All gold parts are trim, I can imagine it being super hard to first do the trim and then paint in the main areas of the armour. Especially since the trim is gold and metallics usually cover super well over anything. Why not go blue>black in the armor joints>gold trim for base layers?
@jasonmolenaar119
@jasonmolenaar119 3 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty sweet primaris lieutenant
@WilCornish
@WilCornish 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some Marvel Crisis Protocol painting too!
@Kepora1
@Kepora1 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Duncan, watching you paint Corvus Black so smoothly made me want to request a video/some help from you. A lot of colors I like tend to be really..."goopy", and stay that way even when thinned up until it reaches a certain amount of water before it "breaks" into a hard to control soupy mess. Any techniques or products we could use to remedy problems like that?
@jackolantern9034
@jackolantern9034 3 жыл бұрын
maybe try adding a bit of acrylic medium to the paint pot? it’s basically pigmentless paint so it thins it without messing up the pigment like water does.
@Kepora1
@Kepora1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackolantern9034 maybe. I think I have an old bottle of flow improver somewhere, maybe I'll give that a shot
@sanguinius6815
@sanguinius6815 2 жыл бұрын
if it's more your style you can paint the fabrics for capes, loincloths etc as you would skin as the nightlords a nasty of habit of taking trophies
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