How to patch a spring reverb in the wrong place - (Patch of the day #02)

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

Hello everyone! This year I’ll expand my videos with a few new ideas. In this second episode of “Patch of the day” I patch up a spring reverb in the wrong place. The playlist can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZavZ5qLoKeEbqs

[@weave_of_k]

I really like how you share create and interesting patch diagrams. Thanks being an excellent source of inspiration!

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching :)

[@humanerror3139]

Brilliant, thank you so much this sounds excellent going to try this later. All your vids are so good and very easy to understand and follow. 🙂

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

You're very welcome! Glad to hear you like it :)

[@GeorgeLocke]

Whenever I'm patching feedback, I like to see if inverting the signal makes a difference. Polarizing mixers like Triatt make this easy.

[@GeorgeLocke]

Also, anything "nonlinear" can be interesting. That includes drive, but also amplitude modulation or pitch shifting. Nonlinear processing adds inharmonic partials, which can destabilize whining feedback. Or it can go totally nuts unpredictably. YMMV.

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

Yes, good ideas! This is just a little patch idea to get people started, but there's a lot more fun to be had with feedback patches. I went a bit further with this in the video on the Papomi, really great module for feedback patches: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5faeqx4Z5ifabs

[@finngrim9763]

Try using the spring reverbs audio out (no input) as an audio source to trigger rings with (gate + input) you can touch the spring to make rings resonate ;)

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

Hmm, sounds like a good plan! Have to get a hold of rings for a bit maybe :)

[@finngrim9763]

@@MonotrailTechTalk If you wanna go next level patch the springs output into a VCA, use an envelope follower to open the VCA and input some complex noise source into the spring. Like an IFM module or something crazy and chaotic. That way you don't just use the string to make it resonate but you also change the "beater" that's making the rings resonate :D

[@fecktoph]

Awesome video !

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@laurenthilairet2004]

nice video !

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

Glad you liked it!

[@herzaincarmona4810]

Certainly an unconventional approach to a patch. But it’s amazing. 👍

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

Haha, indeed, but that's often what leads to fun results in a modular :)

[@MartinDoudoroffLLC]

Great patch, but also should open some eyes to sound design patching. Nicely done.

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

Thanks! Yes, hope this series will inspire to try (similar) things like this :) All the best!

[@alexmoll723]

you are a boss

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

Thanks mate!

[@GeorgeLocke]

I've heard there are issues with interference that make it hard to find a place to put the Doepfer A-199 without getting noise. Is that right?

[@snörre23]

I thought thats part of the design and purpose, make and catch noise. Haven't tried one yet. I would put the soma ether into the feedback path.

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

Yes, there are. In my large Doepfer case I have to put it away from the power supply. This kind of noise is more a 'humming' and not cool. Not a Doepfer thing though, more a sensitive spring reverb tank thing. And I quite easy find places where there's no problems!

[@GeorgeLocke]

@@MonotrailTechTalk if you have long cables to separate the tank from the case, does that solve the problem or do the wires themselves pick up the interference?

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

It's mostly the spring tank that picks up interference. But it works fine even within a case to find the right spot. It's more sensitive than others, but not in an unusable way. Just take a minute or two to put the tank in different places of your case and see what works. Or indeed have the cables for the tank stick out. You can place it where it's best, and also get your hands in the tank if you want to be noisey :)

[@GeorgeLocke]

@@MonotrailTechTalk so what you're saying is, we need a Faraday cage and or $600 DI boxes in order to get a really good sound from a little metal spring in a box. Kthx! ;-)

[@HerwardHoyer]

This!

[@MonotrailTechTalk]

:)