How to Pay Off Your Car Loan Faster (it's NOT Velocity Banking)

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The William Lee Show

The William Lee Show

8 ай бұрын

Learn the fastest, cheapest way to pay off a car loan faster. Velocity Banking strategy VS. payoff car loan directly. Expert shows how to think about paying down any loan.... mortgages, car loans, credit card debt, personal loans. No surprise, Velocity Banking is NOT the best way to do it. Finance expert proves it and shows his math.
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@irismartinez5753
@irismartinez5753 5 ай бұрын
The way to get rid of debt is to increase your cash flow, and pay down the debts. Thank you for the information.
@traceylomax2156
@traceylomax2156 Күн бұрын
Easier
@depecheddurand
@depecheddurand 5 ай бұрын
Just put extra on principal , it will be paid off slowly steadily.
@byronsonnier9404
@byronsonnier9404 Ай бұрын
Yup!!! and you won't have a higher interest rate! why would you want a higher interest rate!! makes no sense!
@angelgirldebbiejo
@angelgirldebbiejo 2 күн бұрын
They explain why if you study velocity banking​@@byronsonnier9404
@prestonstephens7719
@prestonstephens7719 2 ай бұрын
Show of hands…. Who in the hell is living off of $1286 a month today???? Who’s making a $286 a month car payment?????? A Pontiac cost more than that in the 80s.
@nathanielgrodzicki5590
@nathanielgrodzicki5590 Ай бұрын
If i didn't have my car loan my monthly expenses would be about 1200. I bought my car mid 2022 and i pay 320 per month for a base model camaro that had 45k miles when i got it. For reference i live in Hagerstown, MD and pay 750 per month for a two bedroom. I'd say it's pretty close.
@cocoyoco
@cocoyoco 15 күн бұрын
And who is paying 2.5% these days
@staceejones2389
@staceejones2389 6 ай бұрын
I’m lost😞 I listened to this over and over and still don’t understand it 🤔 don’t talk about me y’all 😂😂😂
@missdee212
@missdee212 5 ай бұрын
I knew he knew what he was doing when he pulled out the Excel spreadsheet
@imnitguy
@imnitguy 3 ай бұрын
I've used 0% interest credit cards to buy cars and to pay down mortgage debt. If you have the income to support it, it can quickly pay off a home loan. Not many people have the cashflow to do this. In my case I have paid off rental properties that generate cash flow in addition to my IT job which pays reasonably well.
@Greg-lg3cp
@Greg-lg3cp 3 ай бұрын
Most auto loans don't allow you to use credit cards to pay off loans. How did this work for you?
@michaelday6987
@michaelday6987 3 ай бұрын
@@Greg-lg3cpI got lucky with a car loan of mine. The system allowed me to use a credit card and I got 1% back for like 6 months. I use my credit card as a 0 balance account though.
@christopherbabione7088
@christopherbabione7088 3 ай бұрын
@@Greg-lg3cp I have done this with 0% balance transfer offers from Discover. Discover will send a check to your loan provider which and does not go through normal credit card processing which is why it works. You just have to be careful to only transfer as much as you can reasonably pay off in the promo time. If you don't pay off the 0% loan before the promo time ends, you may wind up at a higher rate than the original car loan.
@littlemanmail2001
@littlemanmail2001 2 ай бұрын
Would like to know as well.
@tamikacrawford_reallifesh.t
@tamikacrawford_reallifesh.t 2 ай бұрын
​@@Greg-lg3cp he bought the car with the credit card and then paid the credit card with 0% interest
@nickimillennium3748
@nickimillennium3748 3 ай бұрын
I'm paying down my car right now. I just divide the total amt due by the number of months that I want to finish paying it off and add the interest that I calculated. I recalculate every month as I get closer to my target date. I do keep a PLOC of $36K on-hand though for medical or natural-disaster emergencies
@pauljohnson2870
@pauljohnson2870 3 ай бұрын
I used Velocity Banking to pay off medical debt and 2 car loans in 18 months. I however used a HELOC...not a PLOC...for half the interest rate. Another draw to velocity banking is people are just that...people. The draw to stop paying all of your monthly cash flow to your loans on your own is real. "Its ok to skip this month" makes the whole thing bust. Velocity forced me to stick with it. I will do Velocity with a HELOC any day since the interest is way cheaper than in this 11% comparison.
@kennyp1068
@kennyp1068 3 ай бұрын
My mom's been harping me about velocity banking and this was my thinking as well, but I'm glad to see you did the work to prove it.
@HaughtKarl-jx9vr
@HaughtKarl-jx9vr 5 ай бұрын
Using a LOC with a higher interest rate and going through the whole rigmarole of using the LOC like a checking account doesn't make any sense when you can just take the extra cash flow and use it to make principle payments directly to the lender at a lower interest rate.
@derekn6070
@derekn6070 5 ай бұрын
You forgot to factor in the base car payments into your schedules in scenario 2, 3, and 4 of $286. The total payment with extra cash flow would be $1619 + $286 = $1905. Now this still means scenario #2 still comes out the winner because of the lower interest. However by factoring this into the velocity banking scenario expenses are now $1000 because of no car payment. This means scenario #4 using velocity banking only costs around $150 more vs. scenario #2. I assumed the first paycheck is on day 1 and weekly payments thereafter. Now that leads to the question as to what interest rate on the PLOC or HELOC would it actually make sense to do velocity banking over just making extra payments. That turns out to be around 5.9% as the break even point if the car loan interest is 2.5%. Very interesting to me and justifies why in some cases it makes sense to do velocity banking over just making extra payments. I punched in the numbers for my own car loan which is at 5.99% whereas my HELOC is 7.7%, I get paid the 1st of the month and monthly. If I factor in the same cashflow of $1619 + my own car payment which is $557.25 based on my pay cheque going straight against the HELOC I save $174.04 using velocity banking over just making extra car payments. Month 10 ends up being my pay off date. So velocity banking is not just a gimmick and can make sense in some cases.
@michaelking42
@michaelking42 4 ай бұрын
I have an LOC with $80K balance at 8.5%. I pay it down at $2,000 a month, which will take me 4 years and $13,000 in interest. I have several rental properties producing $8,000 a month. My mortgage payments are $2,100 plus the $2,000 LOC payment, so $4,100 total monthly expenses. As of today I started velocity banking using that rental income of $8,000 each month. Now, the rental income satisfies the $2,000 LOC payment (cashflow bump), the time to zero balance on the LOC is 13 months and the interest is $3,000. So, I save nearly 3 years of payments and $10,000 in interest. It will certainly work for me and I'm thrilled I found Christy Vann's channel...if that's who William Lee is referring to. One thing that is vastly different about velocity banking and using your cashflow to make extra payments, is the ability to withdraw funds back out if necessary. That's what has kept me from making massive additional principal payments on mortgages. I view the LOC as a place to park my money and offset interest costs. I feel like I'm using the bank's loan against them.
@davidgavney6711
@davidgavney6711 4 ай бұрын
He states below in a comment that the car payment of $286 are paid from the $1,619 (i.e. total expenses are 1,572 = 1,286 + 286), so his calculations are correct.
@davidgavney6711
@davidgavney6711 4 ай бұрын
@@michaelking42 Take out an LOC and don't touch it and still make extra payments on the mortgage (probably at a lower rate). He mentions that in the video (about 7 and a half minutes in). Then you have the entire LOC for an emergency fund.
@michaelking42
@michaelking42 4 ай бұрын
@@davidgavney6711 Thanks Dave, I've done the spreadsheets to analyze the differences. I already had an $80K balance on the LOC, paying it back at $2K a month. Doing VB will save me 4 years of payments and $10K in interest on the LOC. Once paid down I'll take out $50K to drop on one of my mortgages, then repeat the cycle. Having an LOC certainly frees up the thought process that you need to have cash in the bank for emergencies. The only real emergency cash is the cash under your mattress.
@Knowcaptv
@Knowcaptv Ай бұрын
PREACH😂
@byronsonnier9404
@byronsonnier9404 Ай бұрын
Sound advice Mr. Lee thanks for the spreadsheet!! this will help a lot of people!
@rajcherian578
@rajcherian578 5 ай бұрын
I will use your video for my clients as a third party info. I tell them the same thing. I am a CFP. But you did it so well explaining.
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@FactsByLevi
@FactsByLevi 2 ай бұрын
Interested in the initial car loan wasn't added
@adrianherbert9441
@adrianherbert9441 3 ай бұрын
Your video came at the right time, thank you!
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 3 ай бұрын
You're so welcome!
@patricksimmons3491
@patricksimmons3491 2 ай бұрын
Thank for providing valued information. I was going to do the velocity way.
@heartstringsspeak7341
@heartstringsspeak7341 4 ай бұрын
With velocity banking, cash flow typically increases from month to month primarily because: 1. Expenses decrease 2. The amount paid in interest also decreases (bc it’s paid on the average daily balance). Without seeing how these impact the balance each month, your example falls short.
@DouglasForth
@DouglasForth 4 ай бұрын
Did you not watch the video? 6:00
@CForged
@CForged 7 ай бұрын
I was thinking use all the extra cash for principal and use the LOC for emergency instead. Good video
@morrismonet3554
@morrismonet3554 6 ай бұрын
Works for me. But I also have a small emergency fund, too.
@imnitguy
@imnitguy 3 ай бұрын
That HELOC interest rate can eat you alive if you're not careful. Had a friend transfer his first mortgage to one for this payment flexibility and he is paying 9.5% interest on what used to be a 30 year fixed note at under 4%. Not too smart.
@morrismonet3554
@morrismonet3554 3 ай бұрын
@@imnitguy Yes, using a HELOC to pay off a lower interest loan is just dumb. My house is paid for, and I have a Personal Line of Credit with zero balance. Always dumped extra cash into the principle on the car loan.
@troyh3628
@troyh3628 5 ай бұрын
Ok, I just stumbled across velocity banking, and I thought I was completely missing something, because it seemed like they were all just skipping over details. This made me think that I am getting too old to do these kinds of things anymore, and I'm glad I do still have my senses.
@pleskbruce
@pleskbruce 5 ай бұрын
They do skip details.
@Fred2-123
@Fred2-123 4 ай бұрын
There is one lady who showed an "Infinity/Velocity Banking" thing on a cluttered whiteboard where the HELOC balance got to zero at month 6, whereupon she declared it was done successfully. Dozens of people commented that she neglected to take out the expenses for that month. So she was showing 6 months of income but 5 months of expenses. Her reply was: {nothing}. She just completely ignored them. She also showed where 6 payments of $1,100 paid off a $10,000 balance. Yeah, she ignored the comments about that, too.
@troyh3628
@troyh3628 4 ай бұрын
@@Fred2-123 I think I know which lady you mean, and she is actually the one who got me started down this rabbit hole. I'm glad I didn't go any deeper to need a shovel to get me out. I already restructured my debt once over 5 years ago, and I'm just now getting back into the excellent credit score range.
@fourierxfm
@fourierxfm 3 ай бұрын
I too found gaps in her logic and it humorously reminded me of this Sacha Baron Cohen clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npqqdpttitSAj8ksi=Fwz88NudI1B_l4l4
@onefortheroad2291
@onefortheroad2291 3 ай бұрын
I know the lady you refer to. She never answers anything critical even if the point made is concrete
@Ram-ey2pr
@Ram-ey2pr 7 ай бұрын
Great video. This is so helpful, going to use this method to pay off my tesla model 3
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 7 ай бұрын
Glad it helped! Thanks very much for your comment!
@G-Man67
@G-Man67 7 күн бұрын
I just happened to stumble across this video and I don’t know anything about what he was talking about, but my wife had a coworker tell her to split the monthly payment and pay bi-weekly and add any extra $ every other week and have that extra go towards the principal. We wound up paying off our (used) vehicle about 9 months early!
@theresafutrell8470
@theresafutrell8470 7 ай бұрын
Anyone who understands velocity banking “knows” not to work the process with a higher % rate than the rate you already have.
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 7 ай бұрын
You would hope so, but the Velocity Banking channels often pitch using higher interest rate loans to pay off lower interest rate loans.... and these videos get massive numbers of views, so they are teaching something that doesn't work.
@traybern
@traybern 5 ай бұрын
Christy Vann COUNTS on IDIOTS NOT being able to understand ANYTHING!!!
@traybern
@traybern 5 ай бұрын
@@TheWilliamLeeShow. STUPID people will fall for ANYTHING!! Christy Vann is a TOTAL SCAMMER!!!!
@wadecrawford6445
@wadecrawford6445 4 ай бұрын
@@TheWilliamLeeShowmaybe? They also pitch simple interest LOC vs compound interest loans
@danieklerr
@danieklerr Күн бұрын
The terms of the two loans are not comparable. Interest on a fixed-rate loan (an auto loan or a mortgage) is calculated annually based on the remaining principal balance. Each month's interest is determined by multiplying the outstanding principal by the monthly interest rate (annual interest rate divided by 12). i.e. a $20,000 loan at 10% over 10 years = $31,716.18 (a lot more than 10%) For a personal line of credit, interest is calculated on a daily basis using the average daily balance method. The annual interest rate (APR) is divided by 365 to get the daily interest rate. i.e. a $20,000 maxed line of credit, with a 20% APR, with a person's entire paycheck being deposited each month (a surplus of $1k, after expenses), will only take 2 years to pay off, totaling $24,530.08. (a far shorter timeline and less actual interest)
@123sly1
@123sly1 2 күн бұрын
Great video thank you
@christiancoronado
@christiancoronado 3 ай бұрын
Great content, thank you
@TheOliviajules
@TheOliviajules 6 ай бұрын
Thank you WIlliam!
@margaretlee9175
@margaretlee9175 8 ай бұрын
Great advice, Will! Thank you!
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 8 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@YuGiOhDuelChannel
@YuGiOhDuelChannel 5 ай бұрын
Isnt the payment larger than 1600 with velocity banking? Because the car payment amount is part of the monthly expenses, so when you transfer the entire loan to the ploc, you also remove the monthly car payment from your expenses? Unless the interest alone is near equal to the old car payment?
@janiceschultz2753
@janiceschultz2753 5 сағат бұрын
Thanks! I almost got caught up in velocity banking with a huge fee to have the entity help me do it. I think I’ll trust you about all of this.
@MalluStyleMultiMedia
@MalluStyleMultiMedia 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@slarrylee
@slarrylee 8 ай бұрын
I love your new channel, William! Thank you for all you do!
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@franciscoortiz3575
@franciscoortiz3575 3 ай бұрын
Great advice 🎉
@paulwenzl1711
@paulwenzl1711 7 ай бұрын
You are correct my friend 👌
@trentherring5640
@trentherring5640 5 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I thought when I saw the video about velocity banking.
@chinmonkie960
@chinmonkie960 5 ай бұрын
I listened to my mom, I wanted to buy a used car but she was not convinced that it was "safe" and should buy a new car. Still I had the cash to buy the car, instead I listened to her and leased the car and bought it out which was the most painful thing ever. That cost me 5 years with interest.
@imnitguy
@imnitguy 3 ай бұрын
Cash cars are the best value. I bought two Chevy Impalas from govdeals and sold one to my friend who had recently had his car totaled. He paid around $3800 for the car with 80k miles almost four years ago. I spoke to him yesterday and he thanked me for selling him the car and said, I can't believe I haven't had a car payment in this long and the car is still going strong. If you care more about getting where you are going and less about the fancy ride you travel in, you will move lightyears ahead of those with differing priorities. I own two Honda Fits. Why? Because they last forever, they are cheap and they get the job done. My 2018 EX has all kinds of creature comforts like lane keep assist and other things. Most would scoff at such a minimalist ride but it was $15k out the door with 44k miles and should get 300k before it dies. Make smart choices people. Cars are utilitarian. Stop worrying what everyone else thinks, it is none of your business!
@Based0nPrinciple
@Based0nPrinciple 5 ай бұрын
Hey, do you have a link to that spreadsheet?
@joshbryant7363
@joshbryant7363 5 ай бұрын
We really are talking semantics here…and going hard in the “nerdery”… that said, you are missing the payment that would no longer be there in the velocity banking case. If their expenses in the example include that car payment, and they pay it off, they have more to place towards the LOC…its also not included in your second example as it is assumed that the extra cash flow would be in addition to the payment they have. If we are going to break it down to the pennies, it would be interesting to see it calculated accurately. Thanks for the perspective though. BTW…who in the world has a 2.5% car loan any more!?😂😂 I’m staring at 8% hard in the face. 😢
@imnitguy
@imnitguy 3 ай бұрын
Pay cash, no reason to pay 8% car note on something inexpensive and affordable. High standards much?
@michaelbuckley624
@michaelbuckley624 22 сағат бұрын
This guy rattled off his credentials and I said, “Woah!” I definitely trust this guy.
@NevahNormal
@NevahNormal 5 ай бұрын
Good Job William!
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@dkillahne
@dkillahne 7 ай бұрын
I do believe velocity banking is not the proper way to pay off a loan but the way you calculated the interest on the ploc is probably wrong because the interest is calculated daily on all ploc's I've ever seen, not monthly like a credit card.
@Fred2-123
@Fred2-123 4 ай бұрын
No, at the end of the month they calculate the interest as the average daily balance times APR/365.
@marcelsweatjr5713
@marcelsweatjr5713 5 ай бұрын
Or just make principal only payments which also knocks off the amount of interest you pay on the car loan
@boywonder7679
@boywonder7679 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback sir 🙏
@lucybarnard9000
@lucybarnard9000 5 ай бұрын
Finally, no nonsense approach to a video about finances.
@gilbertbeltran7690
@gilbertbeltran7690 3 ай бұрын
What’s the deference between a ploc and a credit card
@tanyarivera5843
@tanyarivera5843 3 ай бұрын
The majority of home expenses such as water electricity gas cell do not allow LOC or credit cards to pay these items so the only expenses such as groceries personal expenses and gas would be paid with loc
@royalproductions83
@royalproductions83 21 күн бұрын
Great lesson!
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 19 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@SeaniBeauty
@SeaniBeauty 7 ай бұрын
Great content ❤
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jimjam5570
@jimjam5570 7 ай бұрын
Sure, until you see the problem with his math. I guess the difference between the interest and the car payment just becomes his cpa fee, instead of going toward the principle and being subbed from expenses... 🤷
@s.h.2546
@s.h.2546 7 ай бұрын
Thank You
@KevinP32270
@KevinP32270 3 ай бұрын
THANKS!
@wadecrawford6445
@wadecrawford6445 4 ай бұрын
Was the interest type adressed? In velocity banking, simple interest LOCs are advised. Aren’t auto loans calculated as compounded interest?
@DouglasForth
@DouglasForth 4 ай бұрын
No, they are not. That's another misleading bit from the VB promoters. APR divided by 12, times the outstanding balance, every single month.
@cookiedough5374
@cookiedough5374 5 ай бұрын
I made an extra payment on my loan and the just called it a prepayment and did not lower the balance interest was calculated on.
@julianbrittain3678
@julianbrittain3678 3 ай бұрын
I feel like you should have used a mortgage payment as an example cause I feel like it works better there but I’m not sure
@CoryLafund
@CoryLafund 28 күн бұрын
I'm 42 with $300k in my 401k and a stock and crypto portfolio worth a combined $850k. I started investing just 2 years ago after working for 15years and having just short of 70k in savings. I'm still with the same company but my decision to invest has made the difference for me and my family. Investing is your best friend. The sooner you start, the better off you are.
@Fabulousmathaias
@Fabulousmathaias 28 күн бұрын
You could retire now If you moved to a cheaper country. Good job.
@NaomieEvaAddams
@NaomieEvaAddams 28 күн бұрын
It’s scary how this is the life of an average American. Years of working and very little or nothing to show for it.
@BrettGregory299
@BrettGregory299 28 күн бұрын
Living from paycheck to paycheck is no way to live, Was stuck in the rat race for a long time, been there, and investing will always be better.
@RyanCole295
@RyanCole295 28 күн бұрын
The importance of investing can never be overestimated.
@DanielHaskel
@DanielHaskel 28 күн бұрын
I got laid off my job and started investing in February, invested 34k in the market and my portfolio is currently worth slightly over 97k. That's more than I make in a year from my job. I’m glad I didn’t shy away from investing
@Zenalliecat
@Zenalliecat 29 күн бұрын
Is it simple interest or compound interest?
@begrateful8934
@begrateful8934 5 ай бұрын
Its not wrong but if you did your way you basically have absolutely no cash for anything at all. Good point at the end 2 shae!
@jarard34
@jarard34 Ай бұрын
You just spent an entire 10 minutes to tell us "you can pay off your car faster if you put every single dime you have into it every month". Thanks Sherlock
@carloskymvilches1765
@carloskymvilches1765 4 ай бұрын
If I open a PLOC at my bank, can they help me get it started?
@keithgardner6757
@keithgardner6757 6 ай бұрын
I only lease vehicles and I assumed I couldn't do something like this because I was leasing however, if I was able to do this it would benefit me in numerous ways. So, is it possible when leasing to payoff the lease in eight months and drive the vehicle with no payments due for the remaining twenty-eight months?
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 6 ай бұрын
No, leasing is different. It's not a loan, it's more like a long-term rental. So while I'm sure they'd be happy for you to pay all of it upfront, that would not benefit you.... it would hurt you (because you'd be paying them early for no benefit).
@terencescott3957
@terencescott3957 5 ай бұрын
The most important thing you said was to get a PLOC and pnly use it for emergencies. I have one and im dabbling around with it. It has made life easier financially and mentally.
@robertdiaz7138
@robertdiaz7138 5 ай бұрын
You added wrong 286 x 46 is $13,156 not $12,989. Other than that awesome video
@Victic005
@Victic005 3 ай бұрын
Of course.
@sasukesuite1
@sasukesuite1 5 ай бұрын
But why do I want to pay off my 4% car loan if my high yield savings account is paying me 5.35%?
@funnyside6
@funnyside6 3 ай бұрын
Worst scenario ever passed by me. My BIL wanted to refinance his mortgage 3.75% 30-year-fixed rate mortgage for cash out to pay off a loan used for renovations that was ending it's 0% interest period. So, he wanted to refinance his current balance and add $30k to the principal and pay 6.25% on all of it on a new mortgage. I suggested a Home Equity Loan (HELOAN, not a HELOC), 15-year-fixed rate at 8.99% and keep his 3.75% first mortgage.
@nyemadebaker-marsh7731
@nyemadebaker-marsh7731 3 ай бұрын
Wait! In the 5K example did you say 5k will help me pay the loan off early by only one year?
@spatty2589
@spatty2589 5 ай бұрын
For me I don’t want to get an additional ploc or heloc. I split the extra money I made btw the car loan and savings. Once the savings got 1K above what was left on the car loan I paid off the car loan. Saved about a year in payments. This worked well when interests rates were low. Velocity banking works well when interest rates are high.
@Fred2-123
@Fred2-123 4 ай бұрын
Velocity banking only works if the LOC has lower interest rate than the car loan or mortgage. Unfortunately, this is almost never the case.
@ericfinn5484
@ericfinn5484 5 ай бұрын
They are right, even in your last drop down chart, you are still saying the expenses are at $1286. At this point the car is paid off. The expenses would drop down to $1000 and daily would be $33.34 not $42.87. Still doesn't change the results very much, you are still paying an extra $307 with the Velocity way as opposed to just paying directly to the loan. If you locked in at a low rate like this, there is almost no point in paying it off early. You can make much more than 2.5% even if you put that extra money into an online savings account. Im earning 4.5% right now. Velocity will only work for the benefit if you have high interest loans or debt.
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
The expenses including the car loan are $1,572 per month. Expenses excluding the car loan are $1,286. So when the loan is paid off, the correct remaining expenses are $1,286. Re. just investing the extra money instead of paying off the car loan, I agree. A person with a 2.5% loan could use their extra income today and invest over 4%. But remember, then you have to pay taxes on that interest at ordinary income tax rates, so after tax interest income is probably in the low 3% range. At theat point, the extra income is so small that a person might be happier just paying off the loan.
@themagoofiles5985
@themagoofiles5985 5 ай бұрын
A+! Thank you for comparing paying EXTRA on the original low rate loan. The VB videos NEVER do this as they would always loose paying 3x MORE interest!!
@mels3173
@mels3173 3 ай бұрын
I heard you talk about what not to do. It is probably better to focus on what to do. I am sure it is in there but I do not have time to listen to what I should not do.
@mattmcdaniel6819
@mattmcdaniel6819 5 ай бұрын
Could you show your work please? I show the car payment transfer into the PLOC satisfies the original car loan and the $286/month payment is deducted from expenses each month. Then I show $107.50 interest payment is added to monthly expenses. This would result in a month 1 $178.50 increase to the cash flow number all things staying the same.
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
I showed my math - it's the spreadsheet in the video. Re. the increase in cash flow that you mentioned, you only increased the cash flow (the way you explained it) by only making interest payments on the new PLOC loan and by NOT making any additional payment to pay off the principal. But you have to pay down the PLOC. So that increase in cash flow is only an illusion.... or it's temporary, however you want to think of it.
@marty64thornton
@marty64thornton 3 ай бұрын
Pay your daily interest every single day. Then on the day your payment is due all of your payment goes toward the principal. I paid off my car loan in 2.5 yrs time
@sonicclang
@sonicclang Ай бұрын
I think using a line of credit to pay off a car loan, putting all your paychecks in it, using it for bills and misc spending, is playing a little fast and loose with credit. It's way too easy to get yourself used to always spending on credit. I would suspect that a lot of people who do that end up never paying off the LOC, and end up in a way worse situation than had they just made extra payments to the original car loan.
@mrspunk61
@mrspunk61 7 ай бұрын
I'm just wondering how you only have a expenses of $1286 and a cash flow of $1619. If that was my case I would at a minimum double my car payment. I looked at all your scenarios and I'm assuming they add up. I think anything that will pump up people to get out of debt sooner is a good thing so if Velocity banking works for some people atleast it gets them off of the mat and on the road to be being debt free even if it doesn't work out perfect. I would say taking all of your cash flow and putting it on the car loan which would work also leaves you with the feeling of being broke all the time. My method for staying out of trouble is to pay 1/4 of all your bills every week. I don't mean your cable bill one week and next week pay your car loan etc.. I mean take your $160 electric bill for instance and set up automatic $40 a week payments, better yet make it $45 or $50. Do that with every bill you have and in time you will have a negative balance due each month on every bill. Some months also have 5 pay periods. before you know it all your bills are paid one or 2 months in advance. Then when unexpected expenses come up you could postpone a payment or 2 and you're still good. It removes a lot of anxiety. Try your best to be in the drivers seat
@irismartinez5753
@irismartinez5753 5 ай бұрын
Never heard of this method but it makes sense. Thanks for sharing.
@terencescott3957
@terencescott3957 5 ай бұрын
The only thing I break up is my house payment. I get paid 3x a month so I pay my house payment in 3rds. Most of the time my house payment is paid 10 days before the 1st of the month.
@mrspunk61
@mrspunk61 5 ай бұрын
Thats what I do but I split it up into quarters and pay once a week but I do that every week so I pay 13 monthly payments a year. It's a great feeling to be ahead on bills. It's easy to do if you just pay a little extra on each bill per week @@terencescott3957
@ameroamigo1
@ameroamigo1 5 ай бұрын
I thought I would dislike this video, but then the math was good. So I was good. This is a very simple example. The best examples for velocity banking include multiple credit cards and credit balances involved for which previous credit is extended and are not ordinarily this simple.
@cryptonator1988
@cryptonator1988 6 күн бұрын
What if you use a heloc or ploc to invest in a rental property and or idk stocks and slowly pay that back while your investment is earning you money 💰 is this a better idea to use the heloc or ploc instead of paying bills? If you use this money to invest and make you money it kinda makes sense because most people don't have free money sitting around to invest im not talking about using the whole loc or heloc just whar someone knows they can pay back maybe 15-30% of the loc or heloc put it into stocks with charles schuab or something maybe high yield savings account or something.. these are just ideas not saying im correct by any means just curious to know if this can work?
@jjpop24
@jjpop24 5 ай бұрын
What is the benefit of paying off a depreciating asset that will never be worth what you paid? Wouldn't it make better sense to put that extra money into an asset that works at making money like a stock or IRA? You pay it off in 8 months taking off 35 months but you won't break even on the extra $10,000 you put into the car for 6 more months (rough estimate). Considering how high rates are right now wouldn't an interest free roll-over on a credit card make more sense? Plus paying off the car leaves you with no activity on your credit report so having the installment loan is a benefit correct? For example: I took my CC debit and rolled it twice into cards with zero interest for 12 months until I paid them off using profits from an home I sold but have not paid off my car note or bike note. This has allowed me to build my credit score to over 800 and let me invest some of the profits.
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter that the car is depreciating. You have to pay it off anyway. I agree, though, that with a 2.5% interest rate (which is low now compared to market interest rates), it might make sense to invest it instead. Put it in stocks, though, and the market could go down and you would have been better off paying off the loan. Or invest in a lower risk interest-paying asset, but you'll have to pay taxes on the interest income, so the after tax interest won't be that much above the 2.5% interest rate on the car loan. For many people, simply paying off the car makes sense just to be done with it. I like what you did using 0% teaser rates on credit cards.... definitely do that if you can get those rates. I've done the same myself.
@LA-xj3tz
@LA-xj3tz 5 ай бұрын
Transferring debt from 2.5% interest to 10.99% interest! What a great way to continue the cycle of being in debt and broke!
@ckersh74
@ckersh74 5 ай бұрын
Bingo. That train derailed before it even left the station.
@tommyb52
@tommyb52 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone know where to et a 2.5% car loan today? Asking for a friend, lol.
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, the person that this video was based on obviously got the loan a while ago, before rates shot up.
@MsDownTownJudyBrown
@MsDownTownJudyBrown 7 ай бұрын
2019
@carlsapartments8931
@carlsapartments8931 7 ай бұрын
maybe from your parents?
@christopherrogers8316
@christopherrogers8316 3 ай бұрын
what if you pay your car payment twice a month, the same amount, but twice a month? wont it reduce interest?
@imnitguy
@imnitguy 3 ай бұрын
Depends on your bank and the rules of the contract you signed with them. Most of the time, no.
@SpineChillingChronicles
@SpineChillingChronicles 5 ай бұрын
Well yes and NO......What about emergencies? what about the money from the 4th example it is the same as example 3, did you forget to add any extra money from payments that were using the POLC? So many other factors that Velocity banking, your way, or anyone else's is NOT the right for everyone.. SO I recommend using all this methods and come up with what makes sense for your particular scenario!! I have used credit cards for the last 20 years, and I have yet to pay Interest on any of them!!!
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree.... every scenario is different, so a person needs to run the math on their unique situation to see if something will or won't work. Credit cards can be great IF you use them in a way that gets you the benefits (the points) without incurring any cost (the crazy high interest cost).
@andyslawnsheretoserveyou2041
@andyslawnsheretoserveyou2041 Ай бұрын
Keep it simple hand them cash then they hand you the title done deal💯👍💯
@InfiniteVelocityUSA
@InfiniteVelocityUSA 2 күн бұрын
Chunk amount should be made for 4 months cash flow payments only, not entire payment. Needs to be paid towards principal.
@jeremydanger5350
@jeremydanger5350 Ай бұрын
Velocity banking only really works with mortgages. Because you save a lot of money on interest by moving ahead on the amortization table.
@robertc8766
@robertc8766 5 ай бұрын
how about pay cash always....never borrow money except manageable mortgage
@michelleadams5609
@michelleadams5609 5 ай бұрын
Because the system requires it. Try having a low FICO score and getting a place to live, car ins. or have a job in finance. Lessons learned.
@Idlax1004
@Idlax1004 7 ай бұрын
You forgot to add the extra 286 a month they would have for cash flow because the car note would be gone.
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 7 ай бұрын
No, that's included.
@techshark6181
@techshark6181 7 ай бұрын
Yes he forgot, No it is not, then cash flow would be $1905......
@jaimegranero9027
@jaimegranero9027 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheWilliamLeeShowwhere did you include the 286? You left the same expenses and cashflow amount
@CFarris2462
@CFarris2462 6 ай бұрын
I realized it as well he didn't adjust his new cash flow & expenses which shows his scenario would save more money through velocity banking & paying off the car loan quicker.
@cameupcool
@cameupcool 6 ай бұрын
Yes he forgot to add car payment. And bloc interest is calculated daily not simple average.
@MeskaCola-fz8dt
@MeskaCola-fz8dt 5 ай бұрын
good
@timothygarza1413
@timothygarza1413 5 ай бұрын
I feel like "velocity banking" would work if you have multiple debts at varying interest rates to lump sum payoffs and increase cash flow by paying of one debt at a time
@Sci-Fi_Fan296
@Sci-Fi_Fan296 4 ай бұрын
Correct. And if you value cash flow. And access to cash for emergencies and not have your cash tied up into the car loan.
@DouglasForth
@DouglasForth 4 ай бұрын
How you feel does not affect the math.
@kennethfinley9014
@kennethfinley9014 7 ай бұрын
Good afternoon, question where was your video before the velocity banking videos was made?
@jit2893
@jit2893 5 ай бұрын
So what's the senerio when car loan is at 26 percent and the ploc is at 14 percent
@David-zl6jr
@David-zl6jr 3 ай бұрын
VERY Few should get a Car % RATE that high, UNLESS KNOW they're doing to make more money Soon & Better their credit score/Lower That HIGH RATE in 6 - 9 mos! A Canadian Friend had a High RATE Luke the 1 you mentioned & the highest I paid, when credit was bad in 2016 was 12%...
@featherpayne
@featherpayne 7 ай бұрын
I was following along but in the 4th example I do not see that you changed the amounts. All cash flow would change because they no longer have 286.00 dollar payment for the car since it was wiped out with the ploc. So now expenses would be 1000.00 a month. Cash flow would be 1905.00 per month. So I am not following along with where you went from there.
@jimjam5570
@jimjam5570 7 ай бұрын
Glad someone else noticed that. Not only did he not move the 286, but he says the interest is higher, but that's not even true because as soon as you put the income plus the extra 286, the average interest is on 10476 (before the expenses which would be reduced) which is like 94 and change, as opposed to the over 100$ he has for options 3&4... all of which make the fact that he made a point of saying he's a cpa VERY concerning. 🤷
@davidgavney6711
@davidgavney6711 4 ай бұрын
He states in another comment that the car payment of $286 is paid from the $1,619 (i.e. total expenses are 1,572 = 1,286 + 286), so his calculations are correct.
@christ.4977
@christ.4977 5 ай бұрын
I thought velocity banking was to take a high interest loan and utilize a lower interest LOC to pay it off. This scenario is clearly backwards. There is something to be said about the financial gymnastics one has to do to save a few bucks in interest. Velocity banking might only make sense in very specific cases.
@ceedee8953
@ceedee8953 5 ай бұрын
You're correct! If he had done the scenario the way vb is intended (with the ploc at a lower interest rate, he wouldnt be able to prove vb methods wrong.
@Fred2-123
@Fred2-123 4 ай бұрын
@@ceedee8953 Yes, but almost always the PLOC or HELOC has a higher interest rate.
@DouglasForth
@DouglasForth 4 ай бұрын
@@ceedee8953 He didn't make it up. The scenario came from one of the VB charlatans.
@moondar8660
@moondar8660 5 ай бұрын
there is another qualifier: is the ploc interest higher or lower than the interest rate on the car loan?
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
The interest rate is mentioned in the video. I don't recall offhand what it was.
@Joce123
@Joce123 5 ай бұрын
I ALWAYS have cars..for multiple cars my auto insurance is less for 2 than one 2021 truck insurance. I have an old nonrunning car in "storage " saves me $720 yr in vehicle insurance..will pay my mortgaged 2021off because with a loan I am required to have full coverage..with my 2021 paid off I can choose to put it in "storage"..if I have a financisl crisis..I do not put $ into my old 1994 second car..just take it out of "storage: and use Uber until I get a new job, pay off medical debt or whatever the financial crisis
@Arlene_witha_y
@Arlene_witha_y 7 ай бұрын
The thing is, lines of credit interest isn’t fixed it’s based on the balance. So the paycheck in the account for most of the month then withdrawn at the time to pay bills lowers the daily average balance which decreases the interest rate for that month. Even with a fixed loc. the fix prevents it from going up, but it can always be less depending on how low the balance is. It’s an option for people who can’t throw all their extra disposable income to the car
@carlsapartments8931
@carlsapartments8931 7 ай бұрын
sorry but it doesn't decrease the interest rate for that month, it only decreases the interest amount based on the new balance, the interest rate stays the same unless bank changes your rate up or down for some reason.
@r0902716
@r0902716 6 ай бұрын
@@carlsapartments8931 I think you are right. My bank changes the LOC interest rate as the Prime Rate changes on the unpaid balance. But, I also think that the object is to get the lowest payment of interest to obtain the savings.
@icantfinditdammit
@icantfinditdammit 5 ай бұрын
The interest rate is fixed. You can't even get the terms correct.
@ryansterling4030
@ryansterling4030 7 ай бұрын
You nail it respect
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@carlsapartments8931
@carlsapartments8931 7 ай бұрын
uh no he messed it up! as almost every commenter has clearly pointed out his mistakes
@kito1san
@kito1san 5 ай бұрын
Wait.. if your interest rate is low, prior to 2021 Why would you want to pay it off so fast?
@Mateo-us4bn
@Mateo-us4bn 5 ай бұрын
thank you for pointing out the obvious gaps in velocity banking logic.... Everyone doesnt compare apples to apples. This video does it.
@pleskbruce
@pleskbruce 5 ай бұрын
The scary thing is the VB lady that talks about paying off a fixed rate mortgage with a variable rate HELOC.
@Fred2-123
@Fred2-123 4 ай бұрын
Well, she also pays off a $10,000 balance with 6 payments of $1,100. The true scary thing is that the comments on her videos are full of people who believe her.
@JK-mg8vt
@JK-mg8vt Ай бұрын
So, my understanding is the PLOC way basically costs you an extra $50 a month to pay it off in 8 months, while still having access to cash for whatever. I understand this is for illustration and the initial numbers are way lower than reality. So, to use PLOC with a higher number I guess it would cost more per month additional for the goal of paying it off in 8 months or way sooner than contracted. It may be worth it to pay the premium to still have access to cash if needed. I'm just spitballin here.
@namanning14
@namanning14 5 ай бұрын
i would like to know where you got the 2.5% interest rate on the auto loan. the lowest i could find was in Dec 2021 at 3.85%
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
That was the interest rate on the loan that was used in the other person's video. They claimed that their client had that rate. I don't know if it's accurate.
@namanning14
@namanning14 5 ай бұрын
@@TheWilliamLeeShow thank you
@Fred2-123
@Fred2-123 4 ай бұрын
I just paid off my 1.99% car loan. Taken out 36 months ago. I *never* made extra payments. Instead the extra month went into CDs and T-bills paying 3%-5%.
@MartinX192
@MartinX192 5 ай бұрын
Im not sure on a car loan but dumping chunks into mortgage principal at the start will definitely help a lot. Even a 25% monthly interest rate CC is a hell of a lot lower interest than a 6% 30 year mortgage interest
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
Ouch, you are so wrong! Please don't do this!!
@DouglasForth
@DouglasForth 4 ай бұрын
It's sad what these VB charlatans have taught people. Martin, if you can't do the math yourself, find a trusted friend who can.
@AshleyFreeman-eq4vc
@AshleyFreeman-eq4vc 2 ай бұрын
I think you forgot to add the car payment back into the monthly cashflow after they paid it off.
@djkilpatrick5256
@djkilpatrick5256 5 ай бұрын
If you have a 2% interest rate, really not worth paying the car off if you ask me. Especially if you have over $1200 left after paying bills. Why not invest more into a 401k or Roth account?
@TheWilliamLeeShow
@TheWilliamLeeShow 5 ай бұрын
Agree, with a low interest rate on the loan, then it could make more sense to invest it instead of paying it off early IF you can invest at a higher rate of return.
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