How to play a Minimoog on a MicroFreak!

[@coreynasfell1095]

Just resolved my indecision! Thank you. Great work.

[@automaticgainsay]

Thank you!

[@GeorgeL909]

Not gonna lie, sounds way better than I expected. This update definitely elevates the microfreak. The filters and algorithm are really smooth, and in this price range, that's impressive. For those of you that have an mc101, that also has a wonderful stereo sample playing engine and can do this really well while adding effects and drums and polyphony if you decide to go the groovebox route for just a little more money than the microfreak. Bonus points for being able to glide/portamento convincingly on both these machines.

[@annother3350]

That really brings the microfreak to life!

[@joegrant413]

I have had an MPC for awhile and also recently purchased some analog synths, so I've been thinking the MicroFreak needs to go bye-bye. And here you and Arturia go again giving me reasons to hang on! I always liked the Arturia controls and form factor.

[@Longuncattr]

You made some beautiful sounds here. I love it. "Gloopy" is a hell of a word, lol

[@automaticgainsay]

Thank you!

[@Cysubtor_8vb]

This is literally the first thing I thought of doing when I heard they added sampling to the Microfreak as I already have Moog samples. I don't have a Microfreak, however, as I had analog synths on my shortlist ahead of it, but is finally thinking of adding the hybrid.

[@markallasred6034]

This is gonna be great as I already have a ton of samples for Decent Sampler and other software synths. all sorts of Moogs and other vintage Rolands Oberhiems CS80 DX7s Prophets etc. Theres a world of crazy good sounds at Pianobook and I got a whole library of Vintage drum samplepacks free at reverb last year. The point being that now I can access them on actual portable hardware instead of having to use a laptop and midi controller plus software. OH and the Granular effects YAY!

[@RobertMRyder]

Well done, Marc! I'm properly inspired.

[@Tkibbs14]

I’m so happy microfreak added samples. My microfreak was collecting dust and was considering selling it, till the update. It’s the only synthesizer I have though since I’m never going to have a budget to buy a Moog but now I truly love it. I always loved moog synthesizers, but can’t afford it. I’m trying to get a car though lol

[@markallasred6034]

Get a Werkstatt while you can. I have a werkstatt and Microfreak and controlling the Statt with the CV outs on the Freak is pretty amazing. It's like 130 bucks on reverb and you have a real moog and a cool keyboard and sequencer to run it.

[@synthesizernews]

Great and very useful of you to get a better idea how good the sample engine works. 🙏Seems like there is a smooth timestretch algorithm at work. Otherwise your 3-OSC-sample wouldn´t probably work that well over this pitch range. The Microfreak now seems to be a perfect tool for 80s old school sampling-synthesis if you take its massive mod-matrix and analogue filter in account. Its like an vintage Akai-S612 sampler expanded with modular features to me.

[@automaticgainsay]

Thank you! Yes, I was surprised at how good each sample sounded as it was slowed down and sped up... unexpected! But there it is.

[@falazarte]

OMG, it is a FreakMoog!! Love it.

[@jarickthom9767]

Great video - fascinating how you turn some small moog samples into a an outright moog synth patch. Thanks for this - now I can't wait til V5 is actually released. This is one of the longest buildups for a firmware patch I can remember in years. You wouldn't mind sharing a few of your samples here? I will never get my hands on a real moog - but a few small samples and I would be happy. Thanks and keep putting out videos like this. I wonder what other synths you could turn your microfreak into?

[@automaticgainsay]

Thank you! Yes, I have thought that I should make the Minimoog samples available. I also thought of doing the MicroFreak ARP2600!

[@spark9x-music]

Yes, great video and please share the samples 🙏❤️

[@MrOuija-rr8kq]

Was pretty convinced I was going to sell my microfreak to pre order a Behringer Pro 800 but now I’m not sure

[@infn8loopmusic]

Great video. That's was really helpful to me!

[@jeffryarchambeau5441]

I bought a second Microfreak to have bi-timbrality in a small space, and play that crazy keyboard with both hands.

[@PTMPTM]

please let us download it

[@SamperorTV]

this

[@IsaiahGrande]

Yes this!

[@margateswede]

Yes please!

[@ianjojo]

yes

[@JonadanandtheFreaks]

Please sir !!!

[@eichisama]

Will you be making your Minimoog sample pack available for download?

[@automaticgainsay]

I need to figure out the best way to do that!

[@amnesiaSa]

@@automaticgainsay ❤

[@eweystewy]

Please in C maj too

[@drwartemal7321]

Decent sampler

[@JonadanandtheFreaks]

Please can you share the samples please !

[@stevefitzherbert]

i liked that you swapped preset and type knob. i did the same with mine.

[@truthseeker3907]

Thank You Marc Doty! 👍

[@mertakcay5340]

Now its easy to reach organic sound with using samples which is cool. Cant wait to dust off my sample packs lol

[@JohnGauge790]

That is insane. I’m a super curious about the converters in that now. 🤔 There’s some serious mojo going on.

[@snaggdadon]

awesome!!!!! i would buy a minimoog sample pack to use for mine!!!

[@glottis5]

Regret selling my Microfreak now. SK-1 style sampling is so cool and useful.

[@otzcz]

just buy another one, no?

[@ofthe7552]

Glad i just got one (: Was worried about its functionality as far as simple bass tones, but paired w some pedals and sweet samples, it seems its money well spent regardless.

[@dzod]

One annoying problem with analogue synths is oscillator drift. You dont get that when you sample it instead. You get the sweet spot on every note every time. Producers been doing this since samplers began.

[@automaticgainsay]

The reason you want analog oscillators are the subtle, and not-so-subtle, variations in frequency, timbre, and amplitude. These variances generate distortions and imperfections that result in a tone that is pleasing to the ear. Synthesizer manufacturers experimented with DCOs in the early 80s because they were rigidly locked in tune, but found that when oscillators were locked in tune, they sounded sterile, unnatural, and eventually fatiguing to the ear. THAT is why the Junos have chorus on them. The variations in analog, when sampled, become repetitive and unnatural. Fine for short sounds, though, especially with multiple iterations of the same note provided randomly when played.

[@dzod]

@@automaticgainsay yes all of that is true but sampling a synth note and playing an octave lower sounds dope. The older and grittier the sampler the better.

[@dzod]

@@amifiii265 Try F9 Audio

[@federicogoez]

amazing!!!!!

[@freddiesamples]

Mine is on the way!

[@soffter]

Hell yeah, do the granular engine next ;)

[@shpongled587]

you really should add 0.2-0.4 slow sine LFO pitch modulation for a more "analog" drift

[@fotszyrzk79]

Sounds great! What's the bell chime in the background? Old clock? Very curious :)

[@automaticgainsay]

I am obsessed with grandfather clocks- I have 8 of them!

[@angelog.spicolaiii8021]

That's totally cool¡! Marc but how much sample time do ya actually get & how do u get'em in there & how many¿just wonderin' once again & one more time, udahman Udahbest Doty urguru thanx again dude.

[@annother3350]

you get about 2:45 sample time i believe

[@angelog.spicolaiii8021]

@@annother3350 2 minutes 45 seconds that's alot thanx dude(s)

[@angelog.spicolaiii8021]

...volatile or non-volatile¿thanx dude(s)

[@annother3350]

@@angelog.spicolaiii8021 Non-volatile -- like the wavetables -- dependent on the internal battery so they will stay in memory

[@Death_By_Media]

Does that include the same space used for Wavetables as well ?

[@davidbaader6028]

Is it possible to get the samples? Sounds fucking awesome!🤘🏽

[@automaticgainsay]

Thank you... I should really post them somewhere... or make a whole set!

[@davidbaader6028]

@@automaticgainsay wow, that would be awesome

[@falazarte]

I second this guy. Please post them

[@KristofferEikrem1]

@@automaticgainsay Second this! Awesome video and idea, would love to use these samples on my OP-1 :))

[@fuzzupuzzu]

i thought of a random question and then i thought you can answer it better than anyone.... whats the different between a regular low pass filter and a low pass gate on buchlas ????

[@automaticgainsay]

A low pass gate is a combination of a non-resonant low pass filter and a vactrol-controlled amp!

[@fuzzupuzzu]

@@automaticgainsay thank you but whats a vectrol controlled amp?????

[@automaticgainsay]

@@fuzzupuzzu "Vactrol" is the brand name of a component that basically includes an LED and a light sensor. The light is converted to voltage, and is use to control various functions. In the case of Buchla and the Low Pass Gate, the vactrol controls the output of the amp. It has a certain distinguishable characteristic of behavior.

[@fuzzupuzzu]

@@automaticgainsay aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa see i was right, ur more knowledgable than wikpedia when it comes to synths bro, thanks :)

[@ytJnC]

I’m not certain if we are being trolled with a raspberry sample. 😂😂😂

[@gary0liver]

Bells bells i hear bells 15min 40s ish.... Did you a sample a DX7 at the same time

[@jthorpe4droid]

Totally awesome

[@Johnnybazakatone]

How to get the update 5.0 before releasing?

[@automaticgainsay]

I don’t know!

[@krazywabbit]

Become an influencer

[@treetopjones737]

"I want it NOW!!" - Veruca Salt

[@stevenbeeckman3019]

I was expecting a video on how to recreate the Minimoog sounds using the Virtual Analog oscillator type.

[@automaticgainsay]

I could do that, too, but it would be less satisfying!

[@KurtLorenz]

❤

[@nndmlsvc]

Does it support multi-sampling? Thanks

[@automaticgainsay]

It doesn't, but it sounds really good anyway! Somehow!

[@nndmlsvc]

@@automaticgainsay yeah sounds nice 👍

[@andersbostrom3745]

Can you play the samples in mono/legato mode?

[@JKC40]

i have to say it... did you check the cable? (NAMM 2014 ref)

[@automaticgainsay]

I’m trying to remember what I was doing at NAMM 2014

[@otzcz]

OK, samples works, but what about filter? Minimoog has classic ladder 4pole and MF has 2pole (steiner-parker, afaik)..

[@automaticgainsay]

The 12db per oct is a bit of a giveaway under the right circumstances!

[@leftovernoise]

I wonder why they haven't added the sample engines to the minifreak yet

[@automaticgainsay]

Because they’d need to add six, and that is a more complicated proposition, I’m told…

[@leftovernoise]

@@automaticgainsay that's a very good point I hadn't considered. Good call

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@automaticgainsay. So, it is coming … it will just take some time? Would be great to do this on the Mini, as well.

[@ukura]

Did they retract the update or did you get an early release? Any sites out there offering it up?

[@automaticgainsay]

I don't know, unfortunately!

[@nicolasbernard7687]

I read somewhere that the update will be delivered around 30th of May by Arturia

[@watchaddicts1213]

I was gonna say…Maybe the contacts Don’t need to be cleaned!😊. You might scrub away some of the cool Flavor. I decided to buy a Microfreak Because of Version 5.0. Are you offering the Minimoog samples you’ve created for sale? I hope so and I’d be a buyer for sure. They sound great on the Freak! For someone trying to get some MOOG sound for leads, bass, etc, the Microfreak with Mini samples, man! I was thinking about a Poly D to get that sound. I’m just beginning your MiniFreak series. Q: would it be crazy to buy a Microfreak, given the release of the MiniFreak ? I’ve got the MiniFreak VST Demo installed. Your Microfreak sounds better, but…we’re listening to a MOOG after all. Anyway, good work, Marc.

[@johanberg6115]

Is this update only for Microfreak or also for Minifreak?

[@automaticgainsay]

MicroFreak only, alas! The MiniFreak has a different architecture due to the polyphonic articulation.

[@ZenMountain]

Same update is coming soon for Minifreak.

[@automaticgainsay]

@@ZenMountain I asked if that was going to happen several weeks ago, and at that time it didn't seem to be the case. Due to the architecture of the MiniFreak, as differs from the MicroFreak, this functionality would require different software architecture. But maybe things have changed since then. I hope so!

[@EverettDudgeon138]

I'm actually shocked you haven't done a series on the Pro 3 yet.

[@automaticgainsay]

DSI wanted me to, years ago

[@EverettDudgeon138]

@@automaticgainsay What about the Trigon 6? Did they ever reach out to you?

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@automaticgainsay. You didn’t want to?!

[@angelog.spicolaiii8021]

...volatile or non-volatile¿ thanx again dude

[@automaticgainsay]

NON-VOLATILE

[@angelog.spicolaiii8021]

@@automaticgainsay... thanx for clearing that up dude

[@universalvibe72]

Ive been trolled.

[@_M4YD4Y]

“WHERE’S THE MINI MOOG !?!?!?!”

[@automaticgainsay]

The new generation needs to experience this

[@shpongled587]

if only the MF had more bass

[@fratariensis]

wow

[@Chillaxin202]

P diddy Public enemy number one

[@chubbichicken]

Dont you already own a MicroMoog? 😂

[@annother3350]

Now we all can!

[@bobborries]

Yes! But would you take a 50 year old synth on tour with you?

[@ZenMountain]

Great sound but I really don't see what the fuzz is about. You really need to start sampling... You'll get a fantastic sound on any sampler with analog filters. Try sampling the Minimoog on an Emax, Sequential Prophet 2000, Prophet X or even a Analog RYTM... etc, etc. Even a good sampler with digital filters like the Roland S750 or any Ensoniq sampler will sound awesome and in many cases will actually improve the original sound. This has been done for decades man, I guess in this case it's great, only if you take into account the low price of the Microfreak... otherwise it's nothing new. Great video, as usual. Thanks.

[@evilet1111]

lol

[@Wrzlprnft]

My guess is: the Microfreak basically has been a great value for the price already at release, and it *keeps getting better* with *free* firmware updates. It seems the fuzz is less "look, nothing else can do this" and more "look, this is another thing the Microfreak can do now".

[@markallasred6034]

any of those samplers cost under 300 bucks? NO? well I guess you can always use your Prophet x as a doorstop, making it multifunctional.

[@vvvorlds]

you know what else can play samples? lot of things... 🥴

[@automaticgainsay]

But until now, this tiny, inexpensive synthesizer was not one of them. Was it.

[@beatnikcafe]

Not a lot of $300 samplers with so many modulations routings and yet also equipped with an analog filter. I can think of one, but it’s in the $2500 range. It’s not a trivial update by any stretch no matter how cynical one may be.

[@mekonium7843]

Sorry dude, listening to you is like listening to all those geezers that have had their lives revitalized because of an internet orderable chord-pack.

[@automaticgainsay]

I don't know what a "chord-pack" is. I have a degree in composition. Also, non-geezers like you apparently are learn about synths from people like me. My life isn't "revitalized" by this. I bought my first sampler in 1988. People like you make the internet unpleasant, but not for people like me. I thrill at the opportunity to respond to lame mockery. :D

[@falazarte]

Very Obnoxious.

[@chickenbath]

He just sounds like he loves what he does, and he definitely knows his stuff.

[@starflyer4660]

Note to Mekonium dude…. Get a life. :-)

[@MisAnnThorpe]

@@starflyer4660 Where can he buy one?. . . not that I'm interested, of course!