How to Play AK Postflop

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@ryanjones4150
@ryanjones4150 2 жыл бұрын
Bart has the best analysis of NLH on the web. I am a CLP subscriber, and there is so much content on the site that I rabidly consume, so i recommend it if you want to make your game the best that it can be. But, just watching the free vids he posts is so educational, because he goes over all of the possibilities of what to do it a given scenario. I'm crushing the 1-3 game I play in full time because of this. I have a lot to learn if I want to move up, but I'm learning it and am so grateful that his stuff is out there.
@trentk268
@trentk268 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have trouble keeping up with this guy, but I'm not complaining. I especially like the "oddballs" he seems to telepathically locate. This A5 that rivers out is a perfect example.
@nickmullen402
@nickmullen402 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that you guys discounted sets so heavily. I would think villain's flatting ranger from the 1b vs BTN could contain 66 and 55 100% frequency. You don't have to be a pro to realize if you x/r a set on the flop, an ace probably won't fold. Plus they're deep so sets will want to build a pot. Then on the turn, maybe villain didn't do the math to set up a pot size river shove and just wants to keep all the Ax in. I also thought when he checks at the end he probably isn't trapping for the reasons you said. Great video!
@chairyannn
@chairyannn 2 жыл бұрын
I get the idea of this, but don’t you think it’s more alarming to raise a set on a flop that doesn’t have a draw other than 87? You wouldn’t scare an A, you’re right. But you’d at least give them some concern. Maybe it’s just me, but raising a set of 55 or 66 on the Qc turn makes so much more money because there are more hands you could be bluffing with.
@danielk810
@danielk810 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%. I could see flatting the pre flop bet with 5s or 6s
@ZenMadmanPoker
@ZenMadmanPoker 2 жыл бұрын
Sets also unblock Ax, so it's much easier to get value from a set than from aces up. Pretty sure sets are *supposed* to be c/r big here. But maybe Bart and Peter are right that people just don't play that way. I'd be c/r my sets all day here, though I'm not CC SB unless BB & STR are both passive and sticky.
@kobinakasone127
@kobinakasone127 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you!!! CPL is premium content for free. I’ve gone from being scared of cash games to absolutely having a blast at .50/1 or 1/2 Ever since I’ve watched every video at least once, I’ve definitely become at least break even 100% Can’t thank the CLP team and Bart enough!!! Keep killing the game 🔥
@lorenzopileri9549
@lorenzopileri9549 2 жыл бұрын
I play the 1/2 live. all these videos made me really improve. Thanks Bart!
@bmathis26
@bmathis26 2 жыл бұрын
Bart said it best… where are you playing is so important… playing deep stack 2/5 in Texas vs 10/20 in Vegas with a cap you could end up with the same effective stacks… Bart you rock man!
@rhcp9009
@rhcp9009 2 жыл бұрын
That’s so funny I literally had this same runout the other day where I raised utg in a tourney with KQo and the BB called and I ended up jamming the river after he checked to me and I realized after the fact that’s it’s a terrible jam bc the board pairs and even if u can pin you’re opponent on a weak ace they always call here to chop. So this is an amazing sense by the caller to ba able to get value here with AK
@kezman82a
@kezman82a 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@trentk268
@trentk268 Жыл бұрын
Bart is real good at keeping the sucker in the hand, especially when he hasn't figured out that he's in fact the sucker.
@JBrandonMercer123
@JBrandonMercer123 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot to contemplate in this video. I love it, Bart:) I'm going to check back river after they have polarized like a nit. I'd be miserable if I get raised on the river and have to fold.
@kitbillion7783
@kitbillion7783 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta consider what people are capeable of. Do you really think any recreatonal player will have the discipline to check full houses on the river and not just shove it? There is a reasonable amount of overplayed Ax that we beat and also A5 which would check call the river vs a small bet
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 2 жыл бұрын
@@kitbillion7783 A5 should be check jamming this river so you shouldn’t be able to get called by A5. So what are you targeting with this river bet that c/r flop bets turn and checks river?
@kitbillion7783
@kitbillion7783 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stockhandle123 should be, but do villains actually bluffshove with blockers here? Im trying to get called by an overplayed A9 or A5. I dont see how we're ever beat when a fishy villain checks the river
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 2 жыл бұрын
@@kitbillion7783 a fishy villain at 2/5/10 should still know A5 is a great bluffing candidate they should still check some big hands on this river too and who raises A9 on this flop? You may be right it may just be a free roll and I’m all for thin value but you better know your opponent is all.
@kitbillion7783
@kitbillion7783 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stockhandle123 yeah. I already made some assumptions on the villain probably not being the greatest player for flatting pre. That being said, I just dont see many bad players bluffshove A5 or checking stronger hands than AK on this river
@davidculhane4388
@davidculhane4388 Жыл бұрын
I was in a spot like this where I got check raised on the river after making a small-sized value bet and recognized the villain to be capable of turning his counterfeited hand into a bluff and called. That one felt good!
@UraStr
@UraStr 2 жыл бұрын
without hitting FLOP: bet small, check call TURN: check call to (mostly)fold and sometimes call river/check-fold (that is when you don't hit)
@shivasirons6159
@shivasirons6159 2 жыл бұрын
When i read thumbnail i thought you meant without flopping top pair top kicker, because thats more common, i just look at the board and decide whether it hit villian or not, since again most times it doesn't then i stay aggressive.
@jack42011
@jack42011 2 жыл бұрын
You Mention that the bet sizing on the turn is a live tell, but you do not mention what it is a tell for, would greatly appreciate you finishing the thought! Love the channel, love the information! if its a reg, would this be a place that he could be raising with just a good ace on the flop because he thinks that the hero is c betting tooo much??
@burkhartlaw1
@burkhartlaw1 2 жыл бұрын
He's said in the past that the same size bet or smaller on the turn is a sign of weakness.
@paulpena5040
@paulpena5040 Жыл бұрын
I think sometimes we overthink those bluffs on the flop. It could have just been any 2 cards hoping you fold. I've seen weird plays like that. I recently flopped trips and got checkraised and was disappointed because I was fairly certain it was just a stone cold bluff and I wouldn't get any more value. Surely enough after calling and a brick on the turn he folded to a 1/3 pot bet.
@seangrover702
@seangrover702 Жыл бұрын
I would bet fold flop here. People often put the preflop raiser on AK. So when they check raise A high flops they are very strong. Bottom of his opponents range is 65 and A5 which he is in bad shape against. People will also check raise sets there because most players are not capable of folding top pair in a heads up pot.
@HellsGrass
@HellsGrass 2 жыл бұрын
Love the way you guys think
@BittyPlaysPoker
@BittyPlaysPoker 2 жыл бұрын
Lots to think about in this video. Nice one Bart :) I’m checking back river after they’re so polarized like a nit. I would hate to get raised on river and have to fold
@JoeShowers
@JoeShowers 2 жыл бұрын
You're a nit? Dude, I'm folding to the flop raise! I need explaining why to continue vs. a rec player with very few bluffs.
@justinnickelson9216
@justinnickelson9216 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeShowers cause your pretty close to the top of your range. Yea donkey. If ur folding AK here. Wtf are you gonna continue with
@BittyPlaysPoker
@BittyPlaysPoker 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinnickelson9216 it’s more about sizing being such a live tell. At lower stakes you can lay that down and forget about it. Against better villains who balance you can’t fold flop
@noex100
@noex100 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinnickelson9216 Against a rec who has you beat 100% of the time here, why the hell would you continue? Why do you need to continue from behind (and very little equity) against a face-up player who is announcing their hand? lol. Keep playing GTO against noobs and we'll see who the real donkey is.
@Vpopov81
@Vpopov81 2 жыл бұрын
if the cards were face up and you KNEW your oppt had 2 pair or better is a fold correct here in flop?
@gordonbelle1375
@gordonbelle1375 2 жыл бұрын
Could someone please explain what Bart means when he says that same size bet or smaller is a live tell, in reference to Villain's turn bet size?
@williampeabody6475
@williampeabody6475 2 жыл бұрын
Also curious here. To me, the same or smaller means the villain has confidence in their hand, and is either trying to string you along or get to the river on their price while being on a draw. Seeing the way it played out, I’m in the missed draw camp, but I’m a rec and don’t know what I’m doing.
@damrongsakpruksakit9999
@damrongsakpruksakit9999 2 жыл бұрын
It means weak. When polarizing the flop, you should continue to bet large.
@georgewbushcenterforintell147
@georgewbushcenterforintell147 2 жыл бұрын
When I play at low stakes do u think it's okay to fold AK more frequently to raises ? I like playing AK like a draw some times I value shove pre flop also .
@THEENERGYINHALER
@THEENERGYINHALER 2 жыл бұрын
Showing us how to play ace king suited with an ace on the flop... how about with a wiff flop
@davidw8249
@davidw8249 2 жыл бұрын
it all depends on your opponent or opponents... Are they solid? Are they scared money? Are they calling stations... Position your in? willing to bluff 2 or all 3 streets.. ALot of possibilties but depends on tendencies of opponent and your position.
@sneakkyz3696
@sneakkyz3696 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like for you to go over a hand I played if that's possible
@cross-eyetime8939
@cross-eyetime8939 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Bart 😁 ty for your content. I owe you money for the knowledge I have gained
@TheDjcarter1966
@TheDjcarter1966 2 жыл бұрын
Before reveal feels like either AQ or Ac5c...just would think AA raises pre, if it 66 meh you just are coolered. At river (before reveal) It feels like you want to bet but if the guy is next level you bet and he jams it's just too gross...you only beat but AQ or A5 but that looks like a lot of his range...it could be AcKc actually or any AcXc.
@dacgours55
@dacgours55 2 жыл бұрын
Cliff notes-“how to play AK”- suck out on river
@Glitch47278
@Glitch47278 2 жыл бұрын
Hero is never bluffing river. Change my mind.
@mola4everyourz
@mola4everyourz 2 жыл бұрын
good video, definitely enjoyed this one!
@kmsnow6292
@kmsnow6292 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Bart makes a video on how to play AK in general, taking into account player types, relative positions and stack sizes, rather than just 1 specific example like this clip.
@Justice4Skye
@Justice4Skye 2 жыл бұрын
Could easily be 34 clubs, 78 suited, ax clubs, I would check raise turn and fold to a jam. A rec is going to just call if he's on a draw and you will know exactly where you are. 375$ is about 1/3 pot so either he's weak and drawing, setting his price, or has the board crushed, which is unlikely with you holding an ace.
@leftphilange69
@leftphilange69 2 жыл бұрын
C/r/f turn is the nut low line
@Justice4Skye
@Justice4Skye 2 жыл бұрын
@@leftphilange69 not on draw heavy boards, not at all. Allowing your opponent to always set their own price when they have draws and/or allowing them free cards is the nut low. Which all comes down to exploitative vs GTO, more so, opponent based. Some opponents, especially live, you would be silly not to Cr in certain spots.
@gabrielrockman
@gabrielrockman 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have to bet large enough that your opponent thinks that you're trying to bluff him off a chop. I think $425 is too small for that. Edit: It looks like your sizing worked though.
@pugsnhogz
@pugsnhogz 2 жыл бұрын
I like the 400-500 size here for the recs who just know pot odds and nothing else. Some players just can't resist getting a price. Also specifically counterfeit 2pair is great to target in these spots because players can't deal with the cognitive dissonance. "Fuck, i HAD him.. I call" *rueful head shake*
@nicholasdemetriades9154
@nicholasdemetriades9154 2 жыл бұрын
Agree w. this sizing too especially since rec bettting smaller than his check raise.
@AT-bw4cm
@AT-bw4cm 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. I think he lost value. From villians perspective, he should mainly be losing to just AK and AQ and button open ranges are much wider getting less credit for a premium hand and hero has to make up for the time when the river bricks and hero pays off another river bet. I think at least double the turn bet would be in order and I don't see the villain folding. Betting large enough (nearly pot or larger) to bluff your opponent off a chop bet would be risky unless you had a very aggro image at the table though. I think your starting to get too many folds.
@kirkbitu2985
@kirkbitu2985 2 жыл бұрын
You mention lessons on river play in the CLP training. Can you point me to them?
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you talking about in the video exactly? Ill try do my best to point you in the right direction.. Bart
@kirkbitu2985
@kirkbitu2985 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrushlivePoker id like any river play info. But would love to see when to check raise bluff. We can start there
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 2 жыл бұрын
@@kirkbitu2985 crushlivepoker.com/podcasts/check-raising-the-river-theory-and-variance
@NeiltheDeal
@NeiltheDeal 2 жыл бұрын
So anyways… I started blasting away
@jack42011
@jack42011 2 жыл бұрын
a rec player would be representing 55, 66 or something like AJ or A10 suited, he wouldn't know what to do in the small blind but call and see a flop, his flop raise seems like either an A with a good kicker or a set, maybe aces up, but doubtful. The AJish hand could be used as a raise to keep a pro honest, -as for the sizing, x4 for out of position, sounds ok... Now back to the video to see how it turns out...
@peterryl5845
@peterryl5845 2 жыл бұрын
I find more entertaining to watch videos where Bart talks on camera rather than on background
@BittyPlaysPoker
@BittyPlaysPoker 2 жыл бұрын
My comment was real now there’s weird bots copying it? I’m so confused 😂
@CrushlivePoker
@CrushlivePoker 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have no idea either. See my response to one of those guys.
@Rudyxwhite
@Rudyxwhite 2 жыл бұрын
yep
@daveythehand4964
@daveythehand4964 2 жыл бұрын
talk about thin value betting, el oh el
@jeremyhahn3612
@jeremyhahn3612 2 жыл бұрын
You can't be check jamming this river with a boat against live players. Recs aren't betting after a check raise on flop, and most regs aren't either. Not nearly enough people go for thin value.
@zerrez9791
@zerrez9791 2 жыл бұрын
if he had A5 why did he bet so small on the turn.
@derrickyegge1303
@derrickyegge1303 2 жыл бұрын
Make a bigger c-bet on the flop give up unless you improve
@bloodsoup8377
@bloodsoup8377 2 жыл бұрын
My first thought was 7,8 suited, but I’m a garbage player and would have probably played your hand the same way.
@lincolnjeon2666
@lincolnjeon2666 Жыл бұрын
waatch out for a5 suited, but, what can you do. you can re raise to find out.
@traviscoates6878
@traviscoates6878 Жыл бұрын
3K cap on 5-10-20 is fine. People just love to bitch. Having a $300 cap on my 1-3 game is a reason to bitch
@tinman00
@tinman00 2 жыл бұрын
ÀK bet bet bet
@burkhartlaw1
@burkhartlaw1 2 жыл бұрын
Tldr: hit an ace in the flop and then keep betting even when it looks like you could be beat. You're welcome.
@jolaz69
@jolaz69 2 жыл бұрын
When the villain check raises the flop, AK is dead most of the time. It’s entirely reasonable the guy flopped a set of 5s or 6s and, in that case, AK would be drawing very thin. Bart and his guest act like it’s very reasonable to continue, but I say 9 out 10 times you’re crushed here and you should fold
@B0bi_007
@B0bi_007 2 жыл бұрын
you can't be always putting opponents on sets like that. recs play 65s, A5, A6 too. there are 3 combos of 66 and 3 combos of 55 -> total of 6 sets. there are 6 combos alone of A6 and 6 combos of A5 (if counting only suited then Ah6h, Ah5h and Ac5c which is 3 combos) and two combos of 65s (6h5h and 6s5s). so 6 combos of sets and 5 to potentially 14 combos of two pairs, so there are more two pairs on average. apart from that, recs tend to overplay hands, so he can be check-raising a single Ax hand thinking he's good. if he is anywhat aggro, he can be semibluffing with 87 also. so you're nitty point of view is applicable only if you know this exact person and if he is a extremely OMC kind of player, to only be check raising with sets, and then make a big exploitative fold. otherwise, go back to the 1970s.
@greatwhite3676
@greatwhite3676 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you somewhat. I dunno about 90% of the time. But I would not be as confident as these guys are that he never has a set. Bart will tell you to fast play your big hands but then to never expect people to fast play their made hands. Plus Bart is a mask cuck.
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 2 жыл бұрын
Most players look to check call the flop than check raise the turn with a set. Also you can’t just fold as 87s plays this line almost always. Its not even close to 9/10.
@AT-bw4cm
@AT-bw4cm 2 жыл бұрын
@@B0bi_007 I tend to agree with Lazar. Recs tend to play face up and a check raise from a rec player is nutted virtually everytime. I think it really depends on if you include any 87 offsuit in his range and what is the likelihood he would check raise with it (would he call 87 offsuit in sb with two left to act? If he does which might indicate he is a station, would he check raise with it on a draw?) If he is just playing sets, two pair, and 87 suited as a check raise, then you don't have the equity to continue (you have less than 30% equity against that range. Less equity to just get to the turn.)
@imwatchinberniemac
@imwatchinberniemac 2 жыл бұрын
Shove
@LUellenmoss
@LUellenmoss Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, can you get to the point please
@lincolnjeon2666
@lincolnjeon2666 Жыл бұрын
what the f villin have ??????
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