This video is exactly why this is the best jazz education channel on youtube hands down
@pickinstone2 жыл бұрын
That's some excellent ear training and tune learning advice. I picked that up from two teachers in the past as well, but they expanded upon the concept a little. Sing the bass, play the melody. Sing the melody, play the bass. Sing the 3rds of the harmony, play the melody. Sing the melody, play the 3rds. Then you play the chords and sing the extensions. Singers have A LOT to share with instrumentalists. If you can hear it, you can own it. If you can sing it, you can song it. Still want to hear how Dianne Reeves approaches all of this as a master musician. And ya gotta get Alexa Tarantino on permanent staff! She talks about this type of stuff all the time on her KZbins :)
@BodilessVoice2 жыл бұрын
Best comment here!
@pickinstone2 жыл бұрын
@@BodilessVoice Not my idea, really is a concept that my teachers took from Ray Brown. I'm also really into the Contextual Ear Training concept that Charlie Banacos pioneered--I learned it from Bruce Arnold. Bottom line is that ear training shouldn't be some interval labeling parlor trick--ear training should be integrated into everything you practice on and away from your instrument.
@EthanBrownkeys2 жыл бұрын
You are spot on, pickinstone. I've always been mainly an ear player, and people will often comment in amazement "How do you just sit down and play a song without music?" And I tell them that it's just like humming a tune--everyone can do that!--except I'm just humming it on the keyboard with my fingers. I recently came across Peter Martin and his videos. What an amazing teacher! I want to improve my jazz playing and his videos are marvelous. His teaching talents are as great as his musical ones.
@pickinstone2 жыл бұрын
@@EthanBrownkeys I mean, you can use sheet music and theory--but you funnel all that info through the conduit of ya ears. Studying tritones--sing the bass movement and the 3rds and 7ths as you study them. Studying a new tune, sing the melody while playing the bass movement. Use it all if you can. My argument is that music is NOT a mind game. Music is sound--so you have to approach it all through that sense as well.
@adrianbrome6652 Жыл бұрын
Interesting Ear Training concept. Sounds practical & comprehensive. Makes sense re: Ear Training. Thank you for sharing, Pickinstone.
@guscox96519 ай бұрын
i have NEVER in my entire, long, far far too-long time on youtube seen a video that is so EXACTLY spot on. i have taken the orange pill ladies and gentleman. i am orange pilled. there is no going back. THE KEY OF MUSIC BABY!!! YEAH!
@shakesrear78507 ай бұрын
Somebody please thank this guy in person. He did a good thing.
@SimpsonSound2 жыл бұрын
This method most definitely works & should be a permanent part of learning & practicing tunes. If you don’t know the melody, you can’t play the song. You’ll only be “doodlin’” around. To add to this, you must know your major & minor scales like the back of your hand. If you don’t, you’d better get on it. Also, really know the numbers (ii-v-i-iii-vi-ii-v-etc…). When you know the numbers, scale degree’s, you won’t think about any key. This will turn the “scale practice” into technique practice so your fingers won’t feel foreign to the “key” that you’re playing in. Great lesson, Peter.👊🏾👊🏾
@thomascordery79512 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with "if you don't know the melody ..." After all that IS the song. As a bass player, one very practical reason to know the melody is to avoid those notes, because a melody is weakened on any note that the bass player doubles. Not that the bass can never touch the melody, but certainly any tune-defining note ought to be left to others. I've tried to follow that advice ever since I was taught it and have always found it holds up.
@NorthPortCreatives2 жыл бұрын
I’ve read so many of these comments and all I’m learning is that I have sooooooo much to learn. Because I don’t understand a single word 😅 but it’s so goddamn fascinating. Do you have any recommendations on how someone might go about learning in 2022? Probably online/free. If you’ve got any advice, I’m so eager to learn 😭
@louiscombe359 Жыл бұрын
Know your major scales really well ( i highly recommend the Adam Maness video "the major scale in 8 ways" for this), and then everything will look easier in the future
@justin.johnson7 ай бұрын
@@NorthPortCreativesthere is a lot to learn and it's a gift from God because you'll never run out of things to learn.
@TheSteelDialga6 ай бұрын
@@NorthPortCreatives don't rush the process, but always challenge yourself!! There's plenty to learn and you (and a teacher) are the only ones who can tell you what to practice. Maybe you need to work on your scales or maybe you need to work on your ear or maybe some specific technique or bad habit you need to address on your instrument. Learn a lot from books and guides online, but always be sure to apply it or that knowledge will be gone!
@DrSid42 Жыл бұрын
I just can't. It's like one of the best music video of all time. And this channel has hundreds of them.
@ChuloDavidcito Жыл бұрын
This is gold. I can transpose, but I never thought of just doing just the bass and melody first, getting the basic architecture.
@peterharrison58332 жыл бұрын
Peter, thanks for posting this. Your voicings are beautiful. Years ago, I read a quote that said, "I learned the blues, I Got Rhythm, and Cherokee in all 12 keys and I knew I was ready." The author? Charlie Parker.
@terrytippie61012 жыл бұрын
This corresponds to how I learned to play "in the keys", with one exception: You gotta Sing the bass line. To summarize my piano teacher. Learn to relate to the TWO fundamental melodies of a tune as melodies. Harmonic analysis is fine and you need to be able to do it, but avoid the pitfall of over-computation because it leads to consciously directed, unemotional playing. Also, couple of minor bits a bit on practice method: 1) Don't walk into the gym the first day and struggle with 400 lbs on the bench: Start with nursery rhymes and Christmas tunes. 2) If you play a tune in all 12-keys, you'll see the tune; If you play 30 tunes in one key, you'll see the key. Do some of both.
@peterharrison58332 жыл бұрын
Good advice.
@adrianbrome6652 Жыл бұрын
Good point. I don't ever wish to become emotionally-disconnected when playing ANY instrument.
@fsffs24139 ай бұрын
The key of music! Now, Sir, you're the first person to explain what I've always been doing unconsciously when accompanying. Less colorful though, especially in not so common keys but still made it work. Your hints made me discover weak points on which I'm going to concentrate. Many thanks
@emilerose14247 ай бұрын
Thank you for crediting bassist Ray Brown in this lesson. Most people never acknowledge the forerunners for their ideas.
@davidrosen97112 жыл бұрын
As a subscriber and student of open studio this lesson you have outlined here is just fantastic- thank you Peter and Adam, Chris
@paolofuriomarasso42262 жыл бұрын
One of most important lesson for those who want to become a working bass player! Thank you Peter (and Ray!)
@kbstabs59822 жыл бұрын
That was great, Peter. Where were you when I really needed you? Oh yes, not born yet when I had already been playing keys (first classical and then rock and blues) in decent bands for some 7 years. Now in later life, still playing but almost always transposing as required either by re-writing my charts or using that magic transpose switch on electronic keyboards., especially when it comes to the jazz standards. I have often resolved to learn songs in any key but this video has now finally arrived. Never too late in life to try new things.
@CWBella2 жыл бұрын
OMG, what a fabulous lesson, Peter! Really clear, valuable suggestions on how to approach playing songs in different keys, and I especially appreciate you referencing Ellis Marsalis. The way the notation was presented was also very helpful, along with showing the notes on the graphic keyboard as you were playing. Your enthusiasm is contagious!
@BenIsFiguringitOut Жыл бұрын
Very good stuff! I play for a church in which there’s always a great chance that the choir will sing a song that’s in a key different from the original. I’m firmly against transposing, so knowing how to play in every key is so essential for me.
@diplamatikjuan35955 ай бұрын
As someone who's never been satisfied with my ear, this is one of the best lessons I've ever seen!
@stacey_1111rh2 жыл бұрын
I discovered this through the guitar years ago but have never had anyone break it down in such a good way like this before. Excellent video. Subed. Best wishes!
@anthonywritesfantasy2 жыл бұрын
Man I love hearing you play. Such a good tone, so expressive.
@truthmayhurt448826 күн бұрын
Number system and hand positions. It's like typing, but shifting to a new position. But you still have to practice all keys , exercise hands, on a regular basis
@QuinnTaran7 ай бұрын
What a fantastic jazz educator--really just blown away.
@kenzeller65182 жыл бұрын
A more organic approach to playing in keys - for those who desire freedom from thought before sound, THIS is The Way. Thank you, Peter and Open Studio for all this great help!
@jaijeffcom Жыл бұрын
Is this the best lesson I've seen on learning a tune? Like ever? Man. It doesn't hurt that "Stella" is my favorite tune there is. I just played the opening phrase in 12 keys without even breaking a sweat. Brilliant. I expect it to get harder tomorrow when I work on more of it, but that is enough instant gratification to prove Peter's point for me. Yay.
@jaijeffcom11 ай бұрын
Got through the whole tune. Playing it in every key. Only 700 tunes to go! (Or anyway, a dozen with the most common changes, for starters. Repeat forever, or until my last breath, whichever comes first.)
@orion98mc922 жыл бұрын
I am a guitarist, but, I must say ... what a slap on my face ... thanks indeed! I'll try this on my guitar as well!
@bluch2512 жыл бұрын
Absolute genius Peter, I Thank You once again for these great gems we sometimes fail to think about.
@alexkerby12272 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thinking of scale degrees instead of notes is a game changer. That really helped me when I started learning harmonica, the Richter one. A guitar and piano player myself, remembering notes on harp seemed impossible. Just think about any key harp as C harp and any melody in terms of scale degrees(or you can call the degrees as you'd call them in the key of C) and you get rid of a great deal of calculation. Just keep this tricks to yourself when playing with the band:)
@calebbean13842 жыл бұрын
Playing guitar makes you think in terms of numbers and is much more conveniently chromatic than piano , a bit of advantage there
@Riedel777 Жыл бұрын
Great method! For me, playing Bachs 15 Inventionen in all keys made my musical hearing and understanding of intervalls etc. much better and clearer to play standards in all keys.
@tzahim4412 жыл бұрын
Man!! Good stuff!! The actual hearing of the bass movement with the melody in other keys really makes the difference! Thank you!
@tedpowers20452 жыл бұрын
I am a saxophone, harmonica player. I took guitar lessons from a master for like three years. Can play rudimentary piano. I love your channel. The theory applies to all instruments (duh) and I am seriously considering working on the keys again. Thanks for the info and inspiration
@Adeno2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! This is how I've always done it as a kid growing up in a place where I didn't have access to sheet music. I just kept listening to songs and tried to figure them on my own until somehow it got easier and easier! It's always fun even if I don't always get them right. I haven't played the piano in a year, but you inspired me to clean up my place, remove the boxes on top of my piano, and play again. I'll do it later haha!😃
@johnarouet50302 ай бұрын
This is so good. A quantum leap beyond most KZbin piano videos.
@jazznutz2 жыл бұрын
These guys at Open Studio are very high level! Great lesson
@DestinyHarp7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@moychelitchtenstein71466 ай бұрын
I love this guy! Thanks a multi for all these great insights!
@adrianbrome66522 жыл бұрын
Peter, I ❤❤❤the Energy & EXCITEment you EXUDE when you talk Music. It's CONTAGIOUS.😊
@JoshWalshMusic2 жыл бұрын
Man, your new studio looks so good! Congrats guys.
@sergioventurini2 жыл бұрын
Nice to watch a video that teaches criteria, how to think, and not just «data»
@bertramblik88262 жыл бұрын
A seemingly really unique and reasonable approach for becoming good in a smart and efficient way.
@FilipPandrc4 ай бұрын
I tried to apply this advice today, and I'm impressed with the results. I figure remembering the root motion and melody numbers is like a roadmap and surprisingly I ran through all 12 keys and was able to sing the melody, then sing the bass and play the melody - all while chord names kept popping up in my mind. The only difference is, I remember the melody interval numbers relative to the current chord, not the key.
@johnclaytonjr2 жыл бұрын
Love this, Brother Peter! You just reiterated exactly what I share with my students. I'll be passing this on to them. Oh--and Ray Brown taught me what he gave you when I was 16 years old. Anyway, awesome video. and very helpful! Keep swinging!!!!
@fernandoreina62012 жыл бұрын
Maestro ,gracias , este tutorial me abrió los ojos y el entendimiento, comprendí muchas cosas que siempre había querido aprender. Fabuloso . Nunca olvidare este momento de luz.
@greendeane12 жыл бұрын
You mentioned working with vocalists who might sing in a totally different key than a composition usually is in. I was a military musician. One time we had to play the Star Bangle Banner for an event. Some Navy lieutenant was going to sing it. The banner, a rather familiar piece if you're in the military, is commonly played in one of three different keys, Bb (the official military version, Ab, the Sousa version and G the orchestral version. The schedule called for a spot light on the singer and the hall dark, so the director was conducting with cigarette, so we could see it no lights on stands. We played the last four bars in Ab for an intro, and the lieutenant came in in some ungawdly key around E. We squeaked and squawked for a couple of measures and coalesced in F, dragging the poor singer with us.. Not surprisingly years later the conductor was about to drop the baton on the banner in Bb when the singer turned around as said he sang it in F, which we all then played by ear as there was no music.
@DanielBarberMusic2 жыл бұрын
Home of the brave!! 😂
@thomascordery79512 жыл бұрын
Well, let me just say, thank you once again for your service, greendeane!!
@BobMazzo2 жыл бұрын
We just had the President's Own perform here in North Jersey. I respect you guys and gals.
@stephanieinnocentia17392 жыл бұрын
Had i been there I would've helped!
@trombonemunroe3 ай бұрын
Great story!
@Muzikman1272 жыл бұрын
Man the teachers on this channel really love this stuff, it's great
@blueginger36542 жыл бұрын
So sooo good! Training the ear through Hearing the keys creates connectivity and depth to stay harmonically in touch in the Key of Music. Thank you!!!
@Rhekon2 жыл бұрын
Been doing this with Stella, Autumn Leaves, Blue Bossa and a few other standards just as a fun thing to do. Those are pretty easy for me cuz I've been doing it for a long time. But it's also easy to forget Stella's melody starts on the tonic, and the first chord is a tritone away 😅. It's pretty challenging to do this for me for Someday My Prince Will Come in a key like B Major [cuz I rarely play in that key.]
@jeffreydelisle7337 Жыл бұрын
Lol, I chose someday my prince for my first song to learn this method as I had already memorized it in B flat. I think I understand Pater but by gosh I am light years away fro sounding like him. Good luck to us both.
@Bashanvibe2 жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense!!! I usually use Al to help me learn records in a weird keys from the original key!!!
@blakeangelos2 жыл бұрын
This is a GREAT video. Such a simple and direct way to show this with melody leading the way. 👏🏻
@MrApprobatur21 күн бұрын
Great take - thanks for sharing!
@zackmackmusic66552 жыл бұрын
So beautiful Peter. U remind me of the great Tony Germaine from my Berklee days. Man the way you guys comp reharmonies is so very out and pretty!
@jonathanpelosie8132 жыл бұрын
This is about to change my life ! Thank you for sharing !
@eugenebrown32816 ай бұрын
Great perspective, Peter. Thanks!
@MichaelGawesebmainone7 ай бұрын
I’m not professional but I decided to learn my scales. I also realized that knowing your arpeggios is key for ear player it’s easier if you know all of them for each key. I think those are the natural notes where you will be playing for at least 70% of time, unless the composer moves in and out. Even when you are taken to unusual notes or accidentals it’s close to that key in the circle of fifths. For example if you are in a key of C you could get an F# or the other way around Bb. This is especially true for alto (trumpet).
@thomascordery79512 жыл бұрын
"In the key of music", I love this concept. I'll say it's easier on a fretboard / fingerboard instrument like bass, guitar, violin etc., because then much of it is just moving shapes. But I'm just beginning to pick up piano and this is inspiring me to really learn my keyboard scales so I can still think in scale degrees. I think on the keyboard the challenge is similar to that on a wind instrument, perhaps especially a woodwind. Whatever shortcuts we take because they're easier come back to bite us sometimes. Nothing beats putting in the work.
@3Foxicurl2 жыл бұрын
I just tried improvising on it and if starting from Em, A7 etc and you arrive at the end at Ebmaj7 Abmaj7, I treated Abmaj7 as the 2b of G major, used Ab in first reversal, Cmin6b, treat that as a napolitaine and go to D7/C to go back to the Em!
@strandedcandid Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! And I've started using solfege for the melody. The solfege syllables are the same no matter what key you are in. And, you're hearing the melody in relationship to Do, or the tonic of the key Center. Using the Roman numerals for the baseline works pretty good so that you can think of the chord structure. Thank you very much for posting!
@jazzlife12 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Ellis Marsalis was a great pianist thanks for sharing
@SiggeSvahn2 жыл бұрын
I just go here to enjoy the wonderful chops of this guy.
@michaelfoxbrass7 ай бұрын
Theory and ear training MUST be learned concurrently - in order for each to become automatically memorable / accessible. The sensation felt when we perfectly nail a sung or played interval reinforces our understanding of harmony, and vice versa.
@anneonym73463 ай бұрын
Top. Peter Martin, you nailed it !
@MrJellyton2 жыл бұрын
There's a video of Barry Harris talking about this tune and he touches on this same thing. I recall Peter talking about this on You'll Hear It also.
@davidpatrick18136 ай бұрын
I play guitar some and this principle is going to help much… tnx
@dani70002 жыл бұрын
Awesome playing, great teaching. Sound easy but that takes a lot of ear work. I'll do it! 👍
@jansenrsouza Жыл бұрын
An amazing ear training. I have to do this more and more!
@raybrown69922 жыл бұрын
A brilliant exercise to widen one’s horizon 👍🏽
@olekiilerich41912 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a very clear explanation of this concept. I immidiately tried it out with just the melody and it worked surprisingly well.
@TommyCosterMusic2 жыл бұрын
Such a valuable concept that is exactly how to approach fluidity in all keys. Ty sir…🔥🔥🔥
@deprospero2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter Martin
@fg87fgd2 жыл бұрын
Great lesson. BTW: If you would like to get a helping hand from iReal B, click on "font" and then on "number notation".
@josephzdyrski2 жыл бұрын
I feel as mainly a guitar player this is where my instrument shines brightest. No different patterns to remember nothing to memorize just moving to different places on the neck. That said thinking musically and using your ear like this is still very helpful.
@smoses29972 жыл бұрын
A brilliant teacher.
@Deluca-Piano2 жыл бұрын
I want more videos on this. This concept seems to be where everyone struggles. I almost want more explanation though. I've spent the last decade being told to transpose faster by so many people and not being able to do it fast enough to make my teachers happy.
@richardkollmar9032 жыл бұрын
A priceless gift. Thank you!
@stefanfischer46432 жыл бұрын
You are a good Pianist! You are right! To Play Any Tune in any Key! That's It! Liebe Grüße Stefan 🌞
@richard135b72 жыл бұрын
Awesome content. The best approach to ear training I have found. Thank you!
@jegoy682 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this tip Mr. Martin!! I’ll give it a go…might take me forever but what the hey 🙂
@carlosaugustodossantos96822 жыл бұрын
Transposition is good always!!!
@francisj.opolko37286 ай бұрын
Thanks Peter!
@sweetoldetc2 жыл бұрын
I've been learning tunes in different keys for some time, and I've noticed that the more I do it, the more I rely on ears to do it rather than thinking about the notes. If you can already hear it clearly in your head and sing it, then all you need to do is just have your body respond to what you hear. It's a more direct way of playing since you are not spending time thinking about what chords, or what scale degree..etc. And it's probably what you need to be able to do in a real gig situation when a singer calls a tune in a key you've never played before, or even has to follow a tune that you are not familiar with. You don't have time to think, and your ears and your hands just need to be able to respond instantaneously. Of course, this might be a bit much if you are playing the modern tune with really complex non-functional harmony and rhythm, but I figured I should work myself to a point where listen to any traditional jazz standard and just be able to play it without having to think about it, because my ears/hands are ready and know what to do
@drakestube Жыл бұрын
You guys are the best.
@davidsummerville3515 ай бұрын
Thank you
@BobMazzo2 жыл бұрын
Still struggling with this after many years of playing, but I'm getting it. And now I'm teaching my 13 yr old to think this way. Thanks for this lesson.
@Qwazim0d002 жыл бұрын
Great video Peter!
@jayumble839011 ай бұрын
This is incredible, thank you!!
@rodrigobalibalita122 жыл бұрын
Being familiar with the Circle of fifths, the majors and in relationship to the minors within any given key, you should be able to play any song also on any keys. For example in the key of C, possible your chords will be C, F G and minors could be any of these 3, Dm, Am or Em. First step is figure out what key the song is on and then apply the chord combinations given in the Circle of Fifth. You can download the Circle of fifths chart online.
@brendaboykin32812 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Maestro 🌹🌹🌹🌹
@JohnCoughlan_JAC2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Great advice and proof that I don’t know any standards as well as I should.
@raphaelhudson2 жыл бұрын
Dude! Thanks so much. This was amazingly helpful. Now just have to be disciplined enough to think notes in scale degrees.
@damasovergara71982 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Peter!! Thanks a lot!
@scottjoyce1002 жыл бұрын
Great lesson. Thank you!
@timbruer73182 жыл бұрын
Very good stuff Peter, thank you.
@4gcole2 жыл бұрын
Love it Peter!
@ili6262 жыл бұрын
This video made me feel like a pro because that’s how i’ve always transposed. It’s just relative pitch
@keysoftreehousekot19052 жыл бұрын
This was amazing!!! Thanks
@dudorotomy2 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. i love your overall vibe. I play this way a bit on guitar, but guitar is a transposing instrument, so it makes it easier. Nevertheless, this is some gold you've given us here. Time to woodshed...
@migueldemaria38302 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you!
@yogavibe25166 ай бұрын
awesome !!! thank you ...key of music ❤
@markmcdonagh46607 ай бұрын
He kind of reminds me of the snowman on Frozen! Thanks for the video my mind is 🤯
@DrMax09 ай бұрын
Uh, that was quite advanced. And I learned some chord quirks too on the way thru. Many thanks ....