How to play Martian Chess

[@user-dpscriberz]

"The rules are the same as regular chess, except for these changes"

[@MasterHigure]

Speaking from experience, starting "The Teach" with "it's like game X, except these changes" is a really, really good shortcut.

[@endgamerplays]

“For a refresher of those rules, click here”

[@sans-real9473]

@@endgamerplays *points in air*

[@1.4142]

Swimming is like crawling, but in water.

[@RandomMusik]

Drones are my favourite Chess pieces

[@pepsiatlas5452]

I love the implication of the rules. Chess very vaguly approximates the way humans battle, with 2 sides moving against one anouther. The odd rules of this game combined with it being their version of chess implies that martian warfare is waged in a fundamentally different way.

[@rudymartin8583]

To me it could imply some form of proximity-based hive-mind: when sending units into enemy territory, there's only so much time to do tactical maneuvers before those units are assimilated into the enemy hive mind. Or else perhaps Martian culture fundamentally lacks a concept of loyalty, which is arguably even more alien.

[@androkguz]

@@rudymartin8583 much simpler than that. This aren't people. They are robots or resources. Once they are on your side, you control them

[@SavageGreywolf]

only if you assume that the game must be an abstraction of warfare and not some other process such as some sort of alien political negotiation or economics or even some cultural concept utterly incomprehensible to humans, like some sort of Martian social expectation that doesn't really make sense to our brains or something.

[@tomsavage1461]

'woololo'

[@PedroHLima12]

This thread is awesome

[@erner_wisal]

I'm from Mars and i can confirm this is how we play

[@noxeythecollector4173]

Cool beans, bro

[@kkgamer4258]

Kya baat hai

[@GlassOfVitto]

Oh cool

[@Plantrum]

Too bad im a venus flytrap :(

[@festa2072]

Typical townsman who thinks representing the whole planet. Here in Noachis Terra region, piece spaces aren't square. Anyways...

[@Manabender]

This is a really interesting concept. Having too many pieces is problematic as it makes it easier for the opponent to score, but having too *few* could also be a problem as it makes it more difficult for you to score. Giving the opponent a piece -- whether by just outright giving it to them, or by capturing a piece in the process -- seems to usually be a good idea, but certainly not always. I actually wanna play this to see how it goes.

[@sapofazbemechaebom1594]

I don't get why having too many pieces is bad

[@andrebenites9919]

You can use a chessboard. Divide it in half. Use pawns as pawns. Knights and bishops as Piece2 (drone) Queen, King and Rook for Queens.

[@needlespoon4734]

@@sapofazbemechaebom1594 if you have too many piece you bwill be limited in movement because your piece at the back can't go over another piece. This is why giving some of ur pieces can beneficial. It is kinda like a Danish gambit in regular chess where you allow your oppenent to take some of your pawns in order to open up areas for your queen and Bishop attack opposition.

[@sapofazbemechaebom1594]

@@needlespoon4734 ooohhhh Thanks, you opened my eyes

[@dinnerboons1504]

@@needlespoon4734 so basically sacrifice your worthless pieces to open up space for your good pieces.

[@mic01851165]

The most interesting part of this game is you lose control of your pieces after they cross to other side. Never see this one before.

[@rinsekai]

yeah but it doesnt make sense, why would you ever move your pieces to the other side if you'd just lose control of it, you'd obviously want to stay on your side

[@mic01851165]

@@rinsekai Well basically if you eat someone's pieces, you get a point but lose control of that pieces too. You have to cross the board, otherwise how do you eat their pieces?

[@stevekerp1]

Happens in real life all the time. It's called "treason"

[@brancaleone8895]

@@rinsekai it remain me how in a fight the moment you make an attack you expose yourself to a counter-attack

[@a.i.chemist2261]

Grandmasters understand that control is just an illusion.

[@vcrbetamax]

Not enough people take the time to learn about Martian culture.

[@poppymon007]

so by capturing a piece... you are inevitably giving up your own piece. you have to be strategic because throwing a queen onto the opponents side of the board to score a point would give the opponent a massive edge, unless it was in a favorable position and you could somehow immediately score it back! i love this idea.

[@davidreeding9176]

That queen you threw over can then be turned into points if you capture it

[@Anonimo-ue5pq]

Finally!! After almost 1500 years, chess players can eventually get an update on their favorite game!

[@imtolazyto]

Its a mod not the officiel version by the dev

[@stachu5049]

I'm waiting for a DLC :(

[@imtolazyto]

@Space Face You👏didn't👏get👏the👏joke

[@toceeno874]

@@imtolazyto maybe👏they👏were👏trying👏to👏add👏something👏to👏the👏joke👏and👏it's👏you👏who👏didn't👏get👏it

[@imtolazyto]

@@toceeno874 Your👏argument👏is👏invalid👏because👏you👏have👏an👏anime👏profile👏picture

[@honeyjuice219]

didn't knew mars had cheese, not complaining

[@G1veMeSomeRope]

Well it's got moons doesn't it???

[@gcubing_4064]

@@G1veMeSomeRope Pretty sure moon has cheese isn't it?

[@honeyjuice219]

@@G1veMeSomeRope good point, we should start mining cheese

[@jakethewolfie119]

Martian Cheess

[@nabhchandra_]

didn't know*

[@penelopegreene]

"By Issus! This is not our mighty game of Jetan!" --Kantos Kan, Barsoomian, Jedwar of Heliumetic Navy.

[@347Jimmy]

Underrated comment.

[@soundrogue4472]

This is an interesting game idea that feels as if you could expand the size of the game without making it broken. You could really innovate on the ideas already set out here.

[@walmarp]

This is a rather interesting board game

[@SgtSupaman]

Yeah, I bet you could stretch it across an 8x8 board. This would let you add more pawns, like filling one whole row with them. Then set the drones on each end of the back row. Drop the overpowered queens to just one, but maybe throw in a couple other pieces that only move diagonal and some that make some weird moves, like an L shape or something. Maybe have a king to go next to the queen. Yeah....it's all coming together.

[@224ryan]

@@SgtSupaman I honestly thought of this as I read the comment. I think trying to innovate on a simplified version of chess will just make it into chess.

[@tomc.5704]

@@224ryan Well, the "control all pieces on your side of the board" bit definitely keeps it different. That, and not having a King that ends the game.

[@somedude2048]

A bigger game board would break how the limited space forces you into a constant dance with your opponent but additionally it would change the balance of the current pieces movements and the limited depth diagonals can attack in

[@jb-wc1hx]

Lets start a petition to have this game be brought on the first manned mars mission.

[@WarOfWolves]

I like that it can be as simple or complex of a game as you want it to be.

[@mancheaseskrelpher8419]

What a neat idea for a game! My only complaint is that the three types of pieces look much too similar.

[@Avecit_]

yeah, at first I thought there were just 2 different types

[@kraglynn]

Well they’ve got to fit inside of each other, they have little tally’s on them for identification

[@kraglynn]

@@vladthecon yeah, because you can control any piece depending on where it is. Furthermore, dice have marks on them for a similar type of identification. Are you saying dice are poorly designed because you have to look at the sides to see what you rolled? It’s 3 triangles that hop on each other like cups. If you can’t tell how big they are that sounds like a you problem

[@TALK-is1qd]

@@vladthecon ok tally marks is a bad design, i can give it, but "same color"??? Wtf do you even mean, this is served for the rule of the game

[@catoticneutral]

pawns have one notch, drones have two, queens have three, which also reminds you of how many points each of them are worth

[@neumannjorge13]

I love the looney pyramids! I hope to see another of their games!

[@lordsmorgasbord2646]

would love to see what grandmaster martian chess gameplay looks like

[@bladehoon]

whats cool about this is you dont even need the game, if you have a folding chess board, you can lay it out half way and use regular chess pieces

[@Pomodorosan]

2:15 "If there is not a piece available to promote to" Does this mean the promotion takes a dead piece from any player's score hand to place it back on the board, and the two lesser pieces are given to them?

[@person8064]

Probably

[@leori-7477]

I mean, where else would the promotion piece come from? Since the score is equal whether it’s two pawns to a drone or a pawn and drone to a queen, nobody loses score this way. Like exchanging two $5 bills for one $10 bill.

[@arcticlegend8159]

@@leori-7477 oh yes that is fair

[@stantrien8106]

it should be noted that promotions can only happen if no other pieces of that rank are on your side of the board at the time. it is also unclear if this action takes up your turn.

[@gaaraheater44]

@@stantrien8106 seems clear that it takes an action since the two have to be side by side, you would be choosing one piece to move into the other so you know which square to put the new piece.

[@Josh-fj9hi]

I've been to Mars and I was so confused as to what game they were playing. I'm glad I finally found out what it was

[@EdKolis]

So every time you capture, you give up a piece - the opposite of shogi. Interesting rubber band mechanic!

[@sirnikkel6746]

Finally, *Chess 2.*

[@carlphilippgaebler5704]

"You cannot undo your opponent's move by moving it right back" What if your opponent's move was a capture? Can you move the piece right back where it came from before the capture, since this isn't actually "undoing" anything?

[@deadersurvival4716]

No, you cannot. "Moving back" is based on the actual location of the pieces, not what they're doing.

[@michaelroditis1952]

@@deadersurvival4716 I haven't read the rules but I would guess that you could because the state is different, you are not undoing the move, but I will check the rules to be sure. Edit: The rules don't seem to specify this, so by following the rules you can't move the piece back, although I think it's more logical that you can, for example: 1. I move a piece from square A to square B 2. Opponents moves piece from square B to square A Now, obviously I can't move the piece to square B again. That's how I would play it, but I guess it's up to you how you prefer. Edit: in the first rule I meant "I capture a piece by moving a piece from pos A to pos B"

[@skit555]

@@michaelroditis1952 So you could move it back to a previous state? That's not my understanding. In Go we just cannot move the board back to its previous state, that's enough to avoid small cycles, but here we could have large cycles.

[@michaelroditis1952]

@@skit555 What I said is that you CAN'T move it to the previous state, but you can move a piece to the previous position if it results in a different state

[@gojinnkuu]

If they moved over, their turn was to move over. They wouldn't have had a turn to move a piece into a capturable position before you've moved on your turn. At least that's how I imagine it.

[@MrRyanroberson1]

I have some concerns about this statement: "if you have no queens or drones..." (you have NEITHER) "you can move two pieces together to combine them into one: a pawn and a drone..." (but you have no drone...)

[@TripleSGames]

If you have no drones you can combine pawns into drones. If you have no queens you can combine a pawn and drone into a queen.

[@ShakeyBox]

Yeah, that statement really confused me too.

[@nixien1496]

@@TripleSGames Do have another question about this I'm guessing the peices come from your scoring area? So your just fungibally trading them. Can you not promote if you don't have one of those pieces in your score area?

[@jonash78]

@@TripleSGames hi

[@Kafaldsbylur]

@Diego Palacios paiva The way it's presented, promoting is point-neutral (i.e., you put in as many points worth as you took out). That said, it's not clear if you can promote if your opponent is the only one who has captured pieces of the type you would like to promote to

[@CaptainWizard3000]

This looks like a fun game! Great video! My only question is where do the pieces come from/go to during a field promotion? Also does a field promotion count as a capture for the “call the clock” state?

[@goodclover]

I'm not the creator, but here's how I understand it: For field promotion, they a from either of the player's captured pieces stash. As the pieces used to create the promotion are equal to the created piece, the points in the player's stashes remain the same.

[@TheEvilProfessorMonoCulture]

I'm pleased to see how the Martians prize their loyalty

[@lomanalchemik7749]

Now we wait for Jetan, the real Martian Chess

[@alancoe1002]

Jetan looks chess-level difficult.

[@L1M.L4M]

Idk what that is

[@bouchieQ]

Now I just need "How to play Dungeons and Dragons". I could never figure it out.

[@CJWproductions]

If you move your dragon into your opponent's dungeon, it becomes their dragon, until they move it back into yours

[@Airin258]

Well there is rule books, which is basically a "how to play dungeons and dragons"... Not only mechanics, but aslo character roleplay

[@o_ber]

@@CJWproductions top tier reply

[@spiralhalo]

@@CJWproductions finally I understand how to play. Thanks!

[@LuffyGear5IsCool]

"Wheres my piece?' "Idk, the color are the same" "Uh"

[@peenwald8852]

at 2:00 you can literally hear stomach noises (as you can clearly see I'm only focused on the most important aspects of the game)

[@grubbygeorge2117]

If you go first, can you call the clock on your first move, play passively, and win without capturing because of that “last move in a tie wins” rule?

[@daforkgaming3320]

They said “if the game gets to a state of deadlock, one player may call the clock” however, there is no rule that specifies what is deadlock exactly so there’s no rule that specifies when you can call the clock. So yes

[@deadersurvival4716]

That being said, your opponent would have to want to lose without being captured, because it's very easy to capture from a full board.

[@Moley1Moleo]

I don't think you can avoid a capture in 7 moves though, so if you do this, your opponent can force a capture and the game continues for another 7 moves, and vice versa.

[@Airin258]

No, "last move in a tie wins" only if there is a tie in score, and as far as i understand, nothing stops other player from capturing your figures with queen even if you stacked on far end of field. Defense is hard in this game, you have no real eay to stop someone, unlike actual chess and checkers.

[@TheStartrek99]

Not a viable option as it relies on your opponent also playing passively which, given how obvious this strategy is, isn't going to happen.

[@lowintelligencelifeform]

As a Inuranus person, im glad that you decided to cover the martian version of chess! I have cousins from mars and they appreciated this video alot! (sorry if my english is bad i speak uranish)

[@enclavehere.7995]

So this is why the Martians invade in War of the Worlds, they wanted to spread Martian chess

[@DrRank]

The rules are the same as... Hey, wait a minute!

[@starryeyed110796]

This seems really fun I'd love to play it with my family :D

[@theomelettecuber5458]

Me: I thought are no more chess variants! Triple S Games: You thought wrong!

[@deadersurvival4716]

I mean, there are a couple hundred chess variations that are decently known. This could become a chess only channel and still be making new content after this guy retires.

[@L1M.L4M]

@@deadersurvival4716 hundreds? More like thousands

[@deadersurvival4716]

@@L1M.L4M No, there are only hundreds, but that number is growing, and most of those are families of variations within themselves.

[@twangerrrrrr]

this actually looks fun to play

[@Feddzzz]

Seems fun although I’m not a big fan of the “draw” countdown scenario. Seems kind of like poor design

[@satgurs]

draws can also happen in chess

[@imstupid7614]

@@satgurs yes, but those are somewhat controllable. if i understand this game right, draws seem like they would happen rather often

[@pandurendradjaja8994]

It seems like a more lightweight version of chess's fifty-move rule. I think it's fine.

[@rebeccascavello5607]

@Triple S Games My husband and I love your channel! It's always very helpful when we are trying to learn how to play new games, and through watching your videos we have discovered games we never heard of that we have come to enjoy. Could you please do a video of the French card game "Mille Bornes"? Thank you and keep up the awesome work!

[@cosmicmelon9305]

Alternatively, the player who manages to Field Promote a Queen into a Tripod and distinigrates the other player, wins.

[@SgtSupaman]

Careful; that move got me banned from the Interplanetary Chess Federation tournaments...

[@MattTheSpratt]

i was super jazzed to get in on this, i really love andy's icehouse system and i've been really excited to print my own colours too!

[@DivergentDroid]

Oh Look Martian Chess! Star Trek TOS - Hold My Beer.

[@tekurohamada7068]

this is so simple i’m gonna make it

[@interbeamproductions]

Can’t wait for Jovian Chess

[@Soviet_Hibiki]

I haven't noticed when I did a subscribtion on this channel. But I like it

[@handless7677]

Is it like regular chess? "Well yes, but actually no"

[@cmyk8964]

Interesting, seems like a development on a misère variant of chess-i.e. the player with no pieces to move wins instead of loses.

[@Fynmorphover]

it’s not who has no pieces that win, it’s who captured the most. Having no piece just ends the game.

[@Dexuz]

But the player with no pieces to move (that isn't in check) in Chess ties, doesn't lose.

[@Ryusuta]

I would love to see some kind of sci-fi show on television, where a couple of extras are in a space station playing this game entirely by the rules in the background during a scene.

[@vystorm]

I feel like this is supposed to be a tutorial video specifically for those looking up the rules, yet we've all been recommended it even though none of us own one xD

[@JustAnAlteredDude]

I accidentaly read "Martin Chess" 💀

[@ShadowDior]

I didn't know Linus Tech Tips was teaching about board games now, very interesting. You got a sub Mr. Linus.

[@goodsirbear-7579]

"The object of the game is to score the most points"

[@jollycooperation7446]

Finally Chess 2. Martian Edition.

[@Salty_Web]

Guy: This Is martian chess Me: okay Guy: you have to score the most points Me: what

[@CGFillertext]

New home rule: you can use field promotion to combine 2 Queens into a MegaQueen. What a MegaQueen does, no one knows, the knowledge was lost from the great Martian archives

[@TopsideCrisis346]

This actually seems intriguing. How much does one of these go for?

[@VaibhavShewale]

i already can't play a normal chess properly now i have to learn this thing

[@TheCaptNoname]

Finally, another "Chess with mind control" variant! So, _wololo_ it is then!

[@thespoodster]

I just randomly watched this for absolutely 0 reason other than the fact that it was reccomended to me

[@dalaibrahim]

has this game always been a thing or is this a new variation of chess?

[@voyageridk_]

now we need mercurian chess, venusian chess, jovian chess, saturnian chess, uranian chess and neptunian chess

[@flaetsbnort]

the Martians are very good at spaceships and game design, not so much with immunization and regular design

[@insomnijack7528]

This sounds like "Stalemate: The Game".

[@debadityanath4398]

i started shivering as soon as i saw that all pieces are the same color

[@adamsmall5598]

clicked on this expecting Edgar Rice Burroughs. This is a vastly different game than the Martian version of Chess he invented.

[@robs6922]

Nice!

[@cymtastique]

Oh. So if someone "sneezes" they can win?

[@aw3som3reczor39]

An older Martian chess is called Jetan, from the John Carter of Mars series by Edgar Rice Burroughs.

[@mstegosaurus]

Just to clarify: the Martian Chronicles were Ray Bradbury. Edgar Rice Burroughs' novels that include the game Jetan are the "Barsoom" series (being his fictional name for Mars).

[@aw3som3reczor39]

@@mstegosaurus Oh, yeah, I got the two mixed up, thank you for correcting me.

[@mstegosaurus]

@@aw3som3reczor39 Sure thing. I'm sorry if that came across condescending, just thought it would be, you know, useful for anyone else reading who was interested in checking it out.

[@amvn4005]

Does that mean there is extra pieces so as to promote, or do the pieces that have been captured be used as promotions? Also can you promote on your first move or do you have to wait a specific amount of turns?

[@SgtSupaman]

Given that you can only promote if you have none of that piece on your side, it is pretty likely that this will only happen after one has been captured and is available to be exchanged. Captures are too easy in this game for one to get all of one piece off their side without any captures, and it certainly would be poor strategy to attempt that.

[@meestyouyouestme3753]

There’s this guy from Mars and I can confirm this is how he plays…

[@W4rfire]

I obviously prefer plutonian chess but this one is also good!

[@Solar_Planet_YT]

this is like a Bee version of chess.

[@skipperofschool8325]

Can't wait to see this become a tradition on Mars

[@NotNitehawk]

Pretty neat game. I should try it sometime.

[@scraub8913]

This is really cool actually.

[@alekthestemkid7184]

If a drone combines with a drone, then what would it make?

[@velikoslavia]

I love a mod for Hoi4 (Hearts of iron 4) it's called TNO (The new order) and when i heard "call the clock" i instantly thought of the Holy Russian Empire (those who played this mod will know) P.S:I know thats not about the video, but i just wanted to say what i was thinking about.

[@GroovingPict]

so, in order to promote a piece, you must have captured such a piece yourself? or can you use one of your opponents captured pieces since it doesnt affect the score anyway?

[@GordonDavidescu]

My first question, "How do you know if a piece is yours or not" got quickly answered, yay

[@timmy1729]

Im confused by the field promotion ? Quote “ If there are no queens or drones on your side of the board … “ But in the pic there are and he promotes them with pawns … The sentence feels like : no queens or drones imply only pawns !? Perhaps it is meant as “ no queens AND drones at your side at the same time , then … “

[@dodo_berg1230]

would've been better if the pieces of both of the players were of different colours

[@HiddenWindshield]

How can a pawn and drone combine to make a queen, if this move is only legal when you have no queens *or drones* in your zone? Where do you get the drone to combine with if you have no drones?

[@Denver_Risley]

Very clever!

[@DarkestDungeonFan]

what if you call the clock from the start of the game? would it even be allowed? would it be a chess version of the Cranked gamemode from CoD? DID I JUST MAKE A NEW MARTIAN CHESS GAMEMODE?

[@dArtagnangaming]

Why do they use the same shape and color for all the pieces?

[@rc9145]

Does it get hard to keep track of since all the pieces are red?

[@torchofgenesis]

Does a Field Promotion cost your move??

[@coolcool8693]

I kinda wanna play this with a friend now

[@AlcerusOfficial]

What motivation do players have to cross the canal when no capture can be made? What prevents players from just moving their pieces back and forth on their own side to stall?

[@KusaneHexaku]

you can move a high scoring piece over, then capture it yourself next turn to essentially feed yourself point by sacrificing your own pieces

[@theimmux3034]

Martians see this and go hey this ain't how we play chess at all

[@Wclipped]

Why isn't it available for purchase on mars?

[@valmid5069]

Would You Rather: Egyptian Senet, Ancient Asian Chess, Chess, 4D Chess, or *Martian Chess?*

[@therealchaosguy]

5D Chess with Multiverse Time Travel

[@mortsnerd5100]

Is there such a thing as Lovecraftian chess? Now that would be wild.

[@shoddypeasant8762]

these new chess dlcs are cool

[@fatalstyx3389]

Does it count as a move when a field promotion occurs?

[@gamer-iz3sf]

“You control all and only the pieces on your side of the board” Me: enemies queen is also on my side… so do I have two powerful units? Oh, i forgot, their drones too.

[@F43indlyF1r3]

How do we know which piece is your team?

[@faytleingod1851]

Mars is so sophisticated. No more black and white, everyone is red.

[@stevenator0281]

Interesting, but it wasn't what I was expecting.

[@mathewspieker]

Might rebrand this as some kind of tavern game for D&D, "kobold checkers"?

[@Sinistermk.]

You sound like thebackyardscientist