How To: Powder Coating Your Freedom Seeds - 3 Bullets - 2 Powders - Foil vs. Parchment?

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[@DummyRound]

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[@nickjm37fordel1]

one of my favorite things about casting and reloading is the powder coating :))

[@DummyRound]

Yessir!

[@EdwardM919]

Julia Child would be proud of your baking skills.

[@DummyRound]

I can bake when there's only one ingredient 🤣

[@EdwardM919]

Hey, I have a question if you have time. I am looking into building a bullet trap and recycling my lead over and over, I was wondering if the powder coating burns off when remelting the bullets, or do you need to burn off the paint first?

[@DummyRound]

@EdwardM919 it floats to the top of your melt and you can flux it out like the normal dirt and trash 🇺🇲👍

[@EdwardM919]

@DummyRound thank you for your help and your videos, it's really helped out a lot.

[@DummyRound]

@@EdwardM919 awesome, glad you got something out of it. Thanks!

[@andyprairiedog4829]

that chalky look on the bullets for some reason looks very nice...but when they're done..WOW!! I had that same toaster oven as a private in the Army. It was the "Floor Hottie"....pizzas, grilled cheese, bagel sandwiches, burritos. Someone took it one Friday night of a good Barracks Party.

[@DummyRound]

If you get the chalky look, you have good adhesion and they will bake for you. That's kinda hilarious somebody stole your toaster oven during a party lol

[@chuckfinley3152]

The humidity hear has been amazing, all the benefits of an equatorial paradise minus the third world lol

[@DummyRound]

🤣 air so thick you can swim through it... and that starts at like 6am!

[@cw2a]

Mornin man!!

[@DummyRound]

Good morning my friend!

[@christianbrotherspaintingi6821]

Mm mmm, folgers. Good to the last drop!!!!

[@DummyRound]

You know it!

[@T.A.B.Videos]

Parchment works best for me, nice colors

[@DummyRound]

I think it does for me as well. Thanks 👊

[@tims6212]

A to B boys! This ain't the Navy son! Freshly coated freedom seeds! 👍 Love those fresh out of the oven. I'm loving the board idea also very efficient. Ok so are you quenching to harden or am I missing something? You shock me all night long!🎼🎵🎶 Suggestion: I use a strainer when quenching it gets them in the water but makes it easy to pull them out when I go to the towel. Try it you may like it. Time saver.

[@DummyRound]

Thanks, Tim. I need to get a strainer for quenching like you said. I don't do it for hardness, necessarily. Mostly just to get jt cooled off and out of the way for the next batch lol

[@l.a.3887]

👍👌🇺🇸

[@DummyRound]

👍🤠🇺🇲

[@jamespollard1670]

They looked good . I've found that if I don't dilly dally when I remove from the oven to the water , I get almost no stickage of the bullets . Like out of the oven and in the water , right now works the best . I don't see a difference in what container you use to shake them up in either , a #2 , #5 or a plastic coffee can . I use old mayo or peanut butter containers .

[@DummyRound]

Yep, I try to go from the oven straight to the water as well. Some like to air cool, but I just want it to be done with and out of the way for the next batch. I might do some HPs and let them air cool, but I'm not really testing for expansion so I might as well just quench those as well. Thanks 👊

[@heavyleadenthuasist38]

I use the same cheap toaster oven 😝and I used ford light blue with the Lee 158 gr and it looks stellar.

[@chuckfinley3152]

Me too lol, It must be the universal pc oven

[@DummyRound]

Great minds think alike, or something like that lol

[@heavyleadenthuasist38]

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[@DummyRound]

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[@heavyleadenthuasist38]

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[@allthingsconsidered3211]

Nice vid DR. I think my powder mightve got wet. Its bot sticking like urs. My most accurate cast are those 312s but in alox and with a gas check and sized. If u like trying new things. Try the wet shake n bake. If i remember its a little acetone and really light coats/not much powder. Keeps the dust down

[@DummyRound]

Thanks. I've tried the wet method once or twice, and probably had too much powder, so I didn't get the results I wanted. I've never had an issue with the dry method, unless it was a powder that just doesn't work, or if I left it out in the shaking container between batches(several weeks or longer) and it absorbed too much humidity(I'm guessing?).

[@jeffhuntley2921]

I got a midway USA add on your video. First time I’ve seen a midway add. It’s been too long since I’ve cast some boolits

[@DummyRound]

I saw one the other day, some guy was talking about their shipping or something, then I clicked skip 😆

[@l.a.3887]

Beautiful bullets grate job young man how do those hollow point bullets perform

[@DummyRound]

Thanks! They shoot as well as I can point them. I haven't tested expansion, however.

[@jerrychambers7267]

@Dummyround thanks for the knowledge, where do you get a pan like that

[@jerrychambers7267]

Guess you call it a sifting tray

[@DummyRound]

It was some hobby lobby stuff my wife had laying around for tie dying lol

[@christianbrotherspaintingi6821]

You should send a link to Folgers LOL. Maybe get a free supply of coffee omg lol. Hey quick question. I have been dry pc and works ok. No leading, etc. but some of the bullets have stuck and have bare spots here and there, some stick to the wire tray (Elvis) so hoping not a problem, any thoughts?

[@DummyRound]

As long as your bearing surface is covered, you're good. Bare spots on the nose or base don't matter since it's not contacting the barrel and can't leave leading behind. Even the lube grooves between the driving bands don't matter, just the surface contacting the barrel. Hope that helps🇺🇲👍 Thanks!

[@capspik]

I had some heat deformed in the center- lower rack best to go high in the oven?

[@DummyRound]

It really depends on your oven, but you were probably right on top of the heating coil, or your oven is getting hotter than the temperature dial is set to. If you have other racks you can try, go ahead and experiment. I've had small 22 cal bullets melt on me before, right after I had a perfect batch of 35 cal bullets. Just depends how fast they take on heat, how close they are to the source, and if the source is the correct temperature. Hope that makes a bit of sense. Thanks!

[@mckwilly]

makin it happen !

[@DummyRound]

Yessir!

[@jerichojoe307]

I've never used a powder coated freedom seeds before. Always thought about sticky fouling in the barrel from the paint. Another thing I've always wondered is; if the paint would inhibit the loading tolerances of either your casing or your barrle, and what effect that has on rifling engagement, spin, added Grain weight, excetera, as the paint obviously has a thickness and a weight. I'm not saying it doesn't work I literally CANNOT say that as I have never used them before I'm pretty much making these statements because of my THOUGHTS which MAY be wrong, and wondering what your thoughts are on it since you've done it and have the experience. Have you noticed any problems with powder-coated freedom seeds vs. Uncoated seeds? Legitimately asking; not being a smart-ass

[@DummyRound]

You size the bullets after coating so it's the same diameter as any cast bullet. It doesn't add a whole grain to the total weight compared to bare lead. If your lead is of the correct hardness, powder coat is more durable than copper plating. The only problem I've ever had is having to reduce the OAL due to the ogive hitting the rifling in a picky barrel a few thousandths earlier than if it weren't coated. It's basically night and day compared to traditional lube lead bullets. Hopefully that answers your questions👍🇺🇸

[@Dennismadeacomment]

So say hypothetically you had a bad batch of coated seeds ,,,, flaking coat - weight - ect. ect. ,,, can you recast/smelt with the coating on

[@DummyRound]

Sure can. It burns off and floats to the top like any other slag or junk you're already cleaning out🇺🇲👍

[@Bloo0969]

I have not seen preheating the oven to be necessary.

[@DummyRound]

It probably isn't, but I let it run while I'm tossing the bullets or standing them up. Placebo effect, most likely?

[@Bloo0969]

@@DummyRound I do all of my baking at one time, one batch after another, so in theory, the oven is preheated. I just have not seen any difference from the first cold oven batch.

[@DummyRound]

I'm sure it's negligible. My only thought was the minute or two it would take to get up to temp is taking a minute or two away from the actual bake time... I don't follow directions and start a timer when 'the powder coat starts to flow', but rather when it goes in. It probably doesn't matter, but just one of those things I do as part of my process. I'll try a cold start next time if I remember.

[@richardperry4115]

Can anyone tell me , can you use any type of powder coating? Or is there a certain make you have to use for lead bullets.

[@DummyRound]

Theoretically, you can pick any, but there are known good and bad powders to use. The go-to never fail option is Eastwood Ford Light Blue. The metallic looking and translucent ones usually never come out looking how you want them to until they have 2 or 3 coats on them, which is just a waste of time and resources. Some powders will not bind to the lead to begin with, and thus will not bake onto/around the lead. Start with the Eastwood FLB and experiment with cute colors and such after you get your process down👍🤠🇺🇲

[@richardperry4115]

Is Eastwood an American company?? I'm in England, looking at different options, must find out more information about this subject. Very interesting video, many thanks.

[@DummyRound]

@richardperry4115 they are US based, but I believe there are distributors over yonder way👍

[@roberterickson1165]

does the powder coating do anything to the barrel

[@DummyRound]

Yes, it protects it from leading 👍🇺🇸

[@cw2a]

Avoid the foil all together. Parchment is great but best by FAR is Copper oven Liner!! Hundreds of times used 100% as good as new!! Amazon has

[@DummyRound]

I've heard of that, might have to give it a shot. I'd also like some of the silicon ice cube trays to stand up some 30 cals. Any experience with that? Thanks!

[@cw2a]

@@DummyRound Yup definitely a trick every coater needs to have. Those long skinny bullets dont stand or dont STAY STANDING well.

[@tonyturner487]

Has anybody tried electroplating lead bullets with copper???

[@DummyRound]

Dozens of companies like Berrys, Xtreme, and whoever makes plated bullets🇺🇸👍

[@azazelakira12]

Comment

[@DummyRound]

Thanks

[@ekim000]

Your bullets look great but I think you put a little too much work in to be honest. Parchment and foil is an unnecessary complication and expense for pistol bullets. I do 750+ 9mm at a time in a deep fryer basket and drop them from 3 ft into a quench bucket. Yo barely get a bare spot and very few stick together. I take much more care with rifle bullets and place them individually into a silicone micro ice tray with a powder covered pai of fine needle nosed pliers gripping the bullets in the grease grooves.

[@DummyRound]

I never had luck with the "big pile in a basket" method. They just stick together like a rock. I think humidity and atmosphere have some weird effects on the PC, depending on where you're at. I would like to try some of the tiny ice cube trays for my rifle bullets... need to break in a new Lyman mold, anyways 😉👍🇺🇲Thanks