How to Practice Arpeggios for Jazz Guitar

[@johnbates9040]

The underlying thing here is an initial strength but a long term weakness when learning guitar including rock and jazz where we just move shapes and patterns but don't know the notes, this is an excellent lesson and moves away from just trying to learn the arpeggios by rote, gives me a musical concept as well, thank you Mikko Also add I'm trying to adopt a new behaviour in single note playing that I do not play a note if I don't know what it is, try it it's hard ! .

[@willychi9315]

I'm glad You read all these books and share the knowledge, thank You!

[@robertburks2187]

Ive seen this before as an exercise for vocalists...very impressive. Keep up the good work!

[@randallpmcmurphy7501]

Learning all my scales on the piano was the best thing I ever did for my guitar playing.

[@Mikkokosmos]

Yup I tell my students to practice scales on the piano 😎

[@danielbarry5547]

I think the guitar problem with learning shapes will never be solved... especially exercises because their not musical..its be to apply these to improv right away in my opinion. Great vid!

[@Oliver-vu6su]

Insead of skipping a string, (in order to break habbits), you could take the harmonic concept from a prievious video and put in a 9th (or some other extension) instead of the root, 3rd, 5th or 7th. So that your arpeggio becomes e.g. 2 3 5 7 or 1 2 5 7 etc... Not sure if you’ll find anything interesting but it sure makes me think more about the notes. Oh and nice video! :)

[@Mikkokosmos]

Yes that's a cool idea :)

[@natehiltz]

Such a cool sounding excercise!

[@bungorogers7067]

Thank you, just what I needed! Coming from sax where, as you stated, the "feel" of each key is quite different due to different fingerings and helps me to visualize what I'm playing. As I've been putting more time into learning what I'm doing on guitar I keep seeing shapes rather than notes and this exercise will help me to understand what I'm playing. Also, descending arpeggios and other root movements are things I'm used to on sax that I will incorporate into guitar practice.

[@ThomasHope73]

Singing (or saying) the note names out loud, or in your head, as you play, is a really really good practice.

[@Mikkokosmos]

Yup I tell that to my students all the time 😎

[@DavideSchachterJazz]

AHHHHHH you just destroyed the only one advantage we have over pianists !!! ;)

[@Mikkokosmos]

😅😅😅😅

[@Mikkokosmos]

hey what about bends..slides...tapping??? I wanna see a piano player do that :p Dive bombs?

[@DavideSchachterJazz]

@@Mikkokosmos Segovia used to say the "guitar is like an orchestra" because of so many things it can do it is such a marvelous super complicate instrument. It's difficult to become a great pianist but extremely difficult to become a great guitarist!

[@tinajackel]

very cool ideas! thank you for sharing

[@rogerbanat]

Thank you for this video. I've been trying to learn jazz solo and this video help me a lot.

[@Racosz]

Excellent and challenging exercise. It would be interesting to apply the same concept changing the interval between starting notes of each arpeggio (whole tone, minor third, etc). Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia.

[@sturdychinfilms]

Come on Mikko, we know this stuff, we know our arpeggios! 😁

[@gusreece7951]

Very helpful - trying it out now!

[@Mikkokosmos]

Glad you like it. Thank Lage Lund 😀

[@frankvaleron]

Thanks Mikko this is a great lesson and a real challenge in a good way

[@Mikkokosmos]

Glad you like it 😃

[@kevinwang984]

very useful, Thank you Mikko!

[@peternazareth3352]

Good knowledge you are sharing. Very grateful to you.

[@randallpmcmurphy7501]

I like it when you fuck up. Gives me comfort.

[@TONIKOBLER]

👍 exercices to play deferents scales and tonalites on the same place

[@codica666]

Dang just watching the video and no guitar close by. Makes my brain go into overdrive.

[@Mikkokosmos]

Always keep a guitar close-by 😎

[@chasburns3599]

This is fun and very helpful. I love arps !

[@Mikkokosmos]

Glad you like it

[@juanjabustos]

Great job Mikko! Greetins from Argentina

[@stratoleft]

Don't jump the gun, Mikko. I don't know who your clientele is/are, but I don't care if they already know arpeggios. I don't, and I just fake it when I do. Sometimes I get away with it. Mostly not. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter what I already know or don't know. Many times it's hard enough for me to get the timing right, and the feel I want, with spacing between just 3 or 4 notes. Too bad I can't go back to high school with you as a teacher and start all over. Furthermore, I'll give an example of the kind of spacing I'm talking about. Listen to the very beginning of one of my favorite tunes of all time, Line Games, by Pat Martino and his band. The song starts out with one striking chord and drums. Then those, I guess, 1-2-3-4 notes intro of Line Games. When I try it, I mostly just blurt those sort of bass notes together, without the spacing and without that solid feel. You try to go slower and it's pointless and doesn't come out right. I don't know anything about music so I haven't even dared to attempt trying Line Games. I managed to get a fee that sounded right from his scale type of thing once. But that's about it.

[@rsixel]

One good way to study arpeggios is doing 4th circles: m7-7-7M chords

[@artwdeetoo]

It is amazing Mikko of how your brain is connected to your fingers and move them accordingly, amazing how a God Almighty created us with this incredible mind of ours to develop such connections, brain-member, brain-sight, brain-decision, brain-action, I know this is not church, but, everybody needs some encouragement at times, doesn't it. Joe.

[@aaronservice86]

Great video man

[@ouellette1950]

Good stuff . Nice guitar sound . Which one , guitar and amp ?

[@Mikkokosmos]

D'angelico Deluxe Brighton. The amp is a Quilter 101 😎

[@HarryBarry97]

hej mikko. nu har jag lärt mig grund arpeggios. har du något tips hur man gör licks av dem? du blander noterna i skalan och arpeggios elr hur? mvh Harald

[@Mikkokosmos]

Mitt tips: lär dig några solon av mästarna och kolla in hur dom gör med arpeggion. Charlie Parker och Django rekommenderas 😎😎😎

[@jackbombeeck4958]

How about not going up by half steps but picking a (any) note from a key that the chord was in? E.g. if you played a FM7 arpegio, you could go to a Gm or a BbM7 from the 3rd if you think of it as the tonic of F, or to Dm7 or G7 from the 3rd if you think of it as the IV chord of C. It might come closer to things you would actually want to play...

[@kuchavao]

Thank you.

[@eternalrainbow-cj3iu]

Hi Mikko You look sometimes like a professor...A True jazz Professor..I am glad I am one of your greedy students...like the glasses smurf whos ia obedient to Huge Smurf with the red hat...in the Smurfes

[@Mikkokosmos]

I'm turning into papa smurf

[@plantagenant]

A major 7 arpeggio to Gflat major 7 arpeggio....instant Phillip Glass.

[@marianorequejo5644]

Hi Mikko, i'm just starting to learn arpeggios, would you recomend learning them in relation with a method like caged?? Or should i figure them out based on intervals? Great video :)

[@Mikkokosmos]

Thanks 🙂 try to learn them any way you can. The key thing is that you need to know what note you're playing and how it relates to the chord 🙂

[@SIVA6619]

try that : 21212 and 12121 (note by string) for every type-chord and every inversion It did wonders in my arpegios playing. So you can practice 212 on set of strings, both modally and with inversions for each chord-type. Then you do 21212 starting on the 6th string and 5th string. And the chord-type important to know in this order (got from bret wilmott excellent book) : * Maj7 * Ma7b5 * Maj7#5 * Min7 * Min7b5 * Min7#5 * Min6 * 6 * 7 * 7#5 * 7b5 * 7sus * Dim7 * Dimmaj7 * Minmaj7

[@marianorequejo5644]

@@SIVA6619 thanks guys!!! I will check the book!

[@SIVA6619]

@@marianorequejo5644 the book is actually about drop2 voicings, but since it is 4 notes it can be viewed the same as arpeggios. as for the 212 approach, Tim Miller does that a lot. He just released a book about it might be interesting

[@marianorequejo5644]

@@SIVA6619 i don't think i understand the concept le 21212 and the notes per string thing Is it like this?: Play 2 notes from an arpeggio in the 6th string and then i played the next note in the 5th string (etc)? Like some kind of variation of the 3 notes per string?

[@WBUSCH49]

HI MIKKO I do stilll stress the totall different guigar experience when it. Omes to arpeggios when the fingers are connected to tje intervs and when we are using two fi gers and notes on one strii g for easier right hand I do prefer myself to change pksition during those things.... MY WISH IS That the worth hidden in those letters is cauvjt by any one who is a treasure diverr in jazz...

[@jansen_music]

You have done reviews on so many great books .curious why you by-passed the tried and true Berklee Guitar Method .is there a reason for that.. (Lage Lund won a scholarship there). At Berklee the arp. spellings and fingerings are to be memorized by reading them. The exercise you shared is very useful and fun ..Thank you!

[@Mikkokosmos]

Thanks :) I used to have that method book years and years ago. Maybe I should get a copy and look at it again after all these years 😎

[@jansen_music]

Mikko Hilden The études in Books 2 and 3 are excellent ..Mick Goodrick had me playing all of those .

[@Mikkokosmos]

@@jansen_music oh cool. I don't think I have ever played those.

[@jimkangas4176]

@@jansen_music ahh - the muse!

[@doordashh]

chord tones 💖

[@SGasan116]

Sorry for asking again, but what the name of another book, not Ligon blue book, but another?

[@Mikkokosmos]

Complete book of harmony, theory and voicing. I cover that book un the previous lesson 😃

[@tr3ndkiller]

You just need to know where the root is and match it with the corresponding shape. Not really sure how it’s possible to think of EVERY note that you’re playing unless you play at snail pace 100% of the time.

[@Mikkokosmos]

It's absolutely necessary to be aware of every note if you want to be able to play Jazz, I think. And to get away from the shapes. That's the point of this exercise. Snail pace (I like that analogy) is a good place to start. Practicing slow is very important as well.

[@SGasan116]

Hello, Mikko! What the name of another book at the beginning?

[@Mikkokosmos]

Jazz Theory Resources: Volume 1 Great Book :D

[@SGasan116]

@@Mikkokosmos No, not Ligon book, another one?

[@zozovaca]

Great video, but, at the end, even when you "remove" strings, you have to learn new shapes/forms, right? So, it is all about shapes. :) We should have more "boxes", not just few, i guess... :)

[@Mikkokosmos]

Yes, good point. We still think shapes but it's more visual rather than just finger habits and muscle memory. It's also opening up the arpeggios in a musical way so it doesn't just sound like an exercise. And the point of the exercise is that you really have to know the notes of the chord/arpeggio you are playing and not just rely on what the fingers want to do 😎

[@zozovaca]

@@Mikkokosmos , right. Anyway, it takes A LOT of exercise TO NOT sound like you are playing exercise. :D Curse of jazz. :D

[@Mikkokosmos]

@@zozovaca exactly! Well said 😁👍👍

[@charlesgrey8651]

Holy Smokes, ... Cool 😃

[@woolyxoctober]

When you changed the note on E string how did you chose the chord to arpeggio?

[@Mikkokosmos]

hmm Not sure what you mean? The chord and the arpeggio are the same. The second note I start on is Bb so that's the third of Gbmaj7, hence I play a Gbmaj7 arpeggio and chord. Hope that helps 😎

[@woolyxoctober]

Mikko Hilden I mean the Bb could be fifth of Eb or maybe a third on G7. I quest I was confused how you chose what chord to arpeggiate over

[@Mikkokosmos]

@@woolyxoctober Oh I take them in the order of the notes of a Maj7 arpeggio. so Root then third then fifth and finally seventh. Only Major 7th chords in the first example then minor seven etc. I didn't cover dominant chords in the video.

[@woolyxoctober]

Mikko Hilden got it. Thanks.

[@Mikkokosmos]

@@woolyxoctober 😎👍

[@williamrobinson7061]

To me, I'm learning the sound of the note, not its name. Am I missing the point?

[@roblosh8417]

You mean the sound of the interval within the context of the root? Yeah, the point is to know the name, I think knowing it’s sound is a given. I’m still learning all the note names in a scale/arpeggio, the more I learn it the easier it gets :)

[@williamrobinson7061]

@@roblosh8417 It seems to me that pitches need context, unless you have perfect pitch. The note letter names seem secondary; the note (interval) sound comes first for me. If knowing the letter name is the point, this would help in notating it; but I can't see the advantage in hearing or playing it. BUT, I do I use letter-names as roots, sparingly, in relation to chords, like when I want to go to a certain root.

[@randallpmcmurphy7501]

Jim Hall used to put masking tape around pairs of strings for practice.

[@zu0832]

wow!

[@whimpypatrol5503]

Huh? If it doesn't translate back into a chord, I have no idea what the arpeggios you're playing are. Telling me this one starts on the third or fifth or major 7th is not enough for me to see what transformation of what chord it is or isn't. The logic of what you are doing is missing from you topic statement.

[@whimpypatrol5503]

A simple very basic example for dummies at the start would help instead of jumping straight into jazz chords (and ones from the sound track of the famous 1959 Alfred Hitchcock thriller at that). Now I have to search thru 25 videos on arppegos of reading the notes one-by-one to figure out whT your talking about. (Glenn Campbell would also have been lost except he could look over to the other studio players who read music and go from there without having to dig thru 20 other videos -- and 150 ads)

[@Mikkokosmos]

Sorry I have no idwa what you're talking about. "doesn't translate back into a vhird"? 🤔 What does that mean? I'm playing Maj7th chord arpeggios for example and clearly explain when I do. How does that not translate into s chord?

[@Mikkokosmos]

@@whimpypatrol5503 If you want "exapmles for dummies" you're on the wrong channel, my friend 🤠 this channel is about advanced Jazz guitar. If you don't like ads I suggest learning from a different medium, maybe a book? Maybe look up a teacher in your area? Hope that helps.

[@basenjiguitar]

jazzist dont know arpeggios give sadness

[@Mikkokosmos]

What does that even mean? 😄