How to predict every thriller plot twist | ivymuse

[@ivymuse]

Do yourself a favour & watch the introduction!! :D Check the timestamps in the description box and come back to 21:12 for a spoiler-free conclusion! xx

[@chanm01]

You always do such interesting and original content! I loved hearing your grand unified theory of thriller plot devices. 😂 I completely agree about device #4, making the least likely person the culprit, being overused. Your explanation of it reminded me of Hitchcock's "bomb theory" of suspense, which he famously used to teach people the difference between storytelling which is merely surprising vs. storytelling which is suspenseful. Scenario #1: He asked people to imagine watching a scene of a couple having a normal dinner in a fancy restaurant. Between the soup and salad courses, a huge explosion goes off, killing everyone in the restaurant. Okay, fine. Now, scenario #2: The exact same, except that the couple _know_ that there's a bomb under their table that will go off between the soup and salad courses. Now everything that they do in their few remaining minutes becomes invested with so much more emotional suspense! It's a fairly elementary example, but it explains quite a lot about how Hitchcock _thought_ about suspense (and maybe why he's still considered one of the masters of the genre)!

[@ivymuse]

Thank you, I try 😂 Ooh very cool, I didn't know about that theory! Definitely makes sense though 😊

[@sasapejcin3568]

Also when you think that something is happening in the present but actually you are reading chapters from the past.I have read more than 200 thrillers so I can easily spot the twist but not always.I have recently read 7 deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle and almost every twist and turn was like an unexpected slap in the face.That is the creativity.

[@ivymuse]

YESS very true, I missed that one! And 7 Deaths is the best 😆

[@Eduardo_Music8560]

I love to listen to her voice! Ivymuse has a different style to tell her reviews and experiences in the reading of good books. Greetings from Sonora, México.

[@barbaralin3053]

Wow! Very analytical, thank you.

[@jersy6406]

Awesome video. I love seeing booktube videos that deviate from the common formats (even though I like them as well). Could you maybe make a video where you recommend books with great plot twists (that aren't thrillers or mysteries), if enough come to mind?

[@ivymuse]

thank you!

[@theantibibliophile]

To add onto 1) Close to the MC, and 4) Least likely to be the suspect, I've noticed WAAYY too many thrillers where the killer is the one likeable male character. SPOILER, but both of Paula Hawkins' books, The Suspect, Woman in the Window, etc. Great video, keep up with the awesome content!

[@ivymuse]

Oooh interesting!! I've never considered that but I think you might be right 😂

[@23daughters]

I love this content, please keep it up. 🥰

[@willlexie]

The Kind Worth Killing's ending is just.................................. Damn, I have to reread it!

[@TheBookishMom]

I tend to ALWAYS guess endings and twists in books, movies, and shows lol. My husband hates hates when I do it when we watch movies together!

[@ivymuse]

Haha same I feel like sometimes I can even predict movie lines which is borderline creepy 😂

[@TheBookishMom]

@@ivymuse 😂 I love it

[@monicamerle1417]

Least likely category is more common in closed setting mysteries like An unwanted guest by Lapena. Category 1 very usual in domestic thrillers, sometimes even knowing the twist won't be surprising you can enjoy the ride I recommend you a couple that weren't on your list but I really liked: The Last Mrs Parrish by Liv Constantine and For Better and worse by Margot Hunt 😉

[@ivymuse]

I think you're right! Thanks for the recommendations!! 😊

[@monicamerle1417]

@@ivymuse no problem Theresa. I know you've read some Ruth Ware's books. I've read them all. My 2 favorite are The Death of Mrs Westaway and The turn of the key which I gave 5 stars. For cozy closed murder mysteries I really enjoyed the one i told you by Lapena and "I'll never tell" by Catherine Mackenzie. It's set in a summer camp but it's much better that Last time I lied by Sager. For me at least. Was nominated for the Goodreads awards 2019 and Lala from booksandlala really liked it too

[@ivymuse]

@@monicamerle1417 i read I'll Never Tell back in January and really enjoyed it! Have to check out Lapena though ;)

[@monicamerle1417]

@@ivymuse Great! We're friends on goodreads. I'm Monica crazy4books. I read plenty of mystery/thrillers. Check out my reviews if you like. There was one "Sleep" that i didn't like at all but lots of people do. That book is a mix of An unwanted guest and Mrs Westaway

[@williamstewart6454]

Great video although I had to fast forward through some of it The twist in Pines is stunning . I first became aware of One character being written about using different names etc in different parts of the novel was in a sf Time Travel novel by Connie Willis called Blackout and its sequel All Clear I was totally amazed by it

[@ivymuse]

I need to read those then! 😊

[@juanjesus3807]

Is teresa your name?

[@alineexo]

i don't think that every thriller and detective novel FIT in your list when you have read only contemporary thrillers, maybe you should give the classics a shot .....or try to read foreign "thriller classics" that will open your mind on diffrent things. and i agree with you on one point, most of the times it's someone you don't expect turns to be the culprit other that that, i have to say that it depends on the author's influences and of the plot itself and the story elements.

[@SunriseFireberry]

Do u in any way identify with the *villain* in these thriller books? Ah yes, "prevalent," the synonym for "common." Earth-digging instrument = shovel. I love English: u can throw in various bits of the lexicon and some words mean the same thing as other words: synonym mania. There are some words that mean appeasement, more that mean lustful, & even more that mean drunk. Do yourself a favour and say how you feel about bacchanalias.

[@ivymuse]

Not really^^ you seem to like words a lot 😉

[@SunriseFireberry]

@@ivymuse Not really re bacchanalias. Theresa has spoken. Of course I like words. I'm a person. Otherwise communication would be difficult. U r a linguist & into translating. U r BIG TIME into words, way more 'n unilingual me, yes you my flirty friend Theresa, with longstanding dialogue between us running back to early 2013.