How to prep bare metal after sand blasting

[@coralsteffey7431]

Getting ready to do the same thing because that's the way you tought me.

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Sand blasting time! It works great for long lasting repairs.

[@coralsteffey7431]

@@VinylVillageGarage what kind of sand do you use budy

[@VinylVillageGarage]

@@coralsteffey7431 i get it from Menards, black beauty. 50 lb bag for like $8

[@milwaukeemusclecarresurrec5995]

It’s a wonderful day at the VVG! Keep trucking!!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Yes it is! Had a great day of block sanding yesterday and almost ready for high build primer

[@firstgenerationgarage2803]

Great job and thanks for sharing your knowledge brother I really appreciate it

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Anytime pal!

[@mattmcdaniel6219]

Whoa brotha ! I had help too remove my heavy hood! 😂 All your tips are going towards my 68' Bird Project in my two car garage! It's like I'm watching the Future! 😲 Keep em Coming!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Definitely best to get a hand these hoods are a bit heavy. Did a little more panel alignment and prep this weekend. Hoping to be done with the body work soon but plenty of more videos heading your way.

[@wmorri003]

Hood is looking good! Looks like you are making great progress on the rest of the car too. I can smell the paint from here lol

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Thanks. My entire house smells like a body shop. Lol

[@colescrustycars]

I have binge watched about all your videos the last couple weeks. Great stuff! Lots of great tips, you explain in a way that anyone can understand. I got a 69 firebird I'm putting together as a ratty beater. Not a restoration really, just a fun, cheap car. I also picked up a very rough 69 SS Camaro I am going to restore so alot of your tips I will use when I rebuild that car. I picked up a rusty but complete 69 firebird to use for parts for my other 69 bird. After watching your channel, it's got me thinking about building the parts car too!.

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Heck yeah! Save them all. Super glad to hear the content makes sense for a person with some skills but not over the top. That was the goal. Share ways that the average person with some Motivation and normal tools can still get excellent results and the job done. Good luck on the projects and thank you for watching!

[@colescrustycars]

@@VinylVillageGarage yes sir. I'm a GM mechanic by trade, but I'm green when it comes to metal work. I definitely feel confident I'm going to be able to tackle these ol rusty cars!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

@@colescrustycars nice then you will have a step up on rebuilding your cars. Fortunately the aftermarket support on body panels has improved immensely over the last 20 years too. Still not perfect but definitely a game changer.

[@davidbisnette7673]

Great explanation on the blasting and priming , thanks for the videos, very good info. As always Thanks for the info and videos

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Anytime, really looking forward to painting this car soon

[@davidbisnette7673]

@@VinylVillageGarage sure is a great color for it

[@VinylVillageGarage]

In deed. Should look great with the white top

[@perrywe1]

looking good Jon. Let's see some bodu work now!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

You got it. On the way

[@ArrowheadGarage]

Another awesome tip!!!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Hey you can do yours next.

[@JK_Nex_Garage]

Great tips. Do you epoxy the underside too?

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Yes, any bare steel gets epoxied. ASAP. I do the top first just in case any flash rust. Once it dries/cures I paint the backside

[@davidbrown-55]

Beautiful tip. How about a quickie tour on the fake gto. Looks good! Do you drive it?

[@VinylVillageGarage]

I do drive it some, me and that car have a special love hate relationship. Every time I fix something on it something totally unrelated breaks. I have sooooooo many stories and it’s only that car. So I have learned to leave the wipers inop and blower motor not working. That way I make it home

[@johnkonter7696]

Great job, I live not far from you where did you have the sand blasting done Thanks

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Dependable blast. Talk to chuck he has been helping me for over 20 years with stuff. Reasonable prices too.

[@twobeards6714]

Sweet! Is there a water separator on the air to your gun. Also I didn't see it but did you dilute the primer and if so what did you use.

[@VinylVillageGarage]

I have a separator at the compressor and an additional one right on the gun. Th e primer for bare metal I only mix it with the catalyst. When I use it for the sealer coat over body work I cut it with a little bit of acetone

[@gibsonexplorer8777]

John what do you set your pressure on the small paint gun love both of your cars but that GTO Judge is so awesome! You do exalent work🙂

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Air pressure is a tricky thing. Every paint gun is a little different and even the kind of paint will effect what psi you spray at. My gun is a MAC tool econo coat HVLP seems to Spray best for me if I set the compressor tank regulator down to 40 psi then at the gun down to around 20psi. Good atomization is the goal but not too much air that it turns the paint into a fog.

[@gibsonexplorer8777]

@VVG Firebird Restoration Station thanks John I know what to set my big gun at but just bought a harbor fright touch up gun for re epoxying places where I am doing body work it takes me for ever! On off guide coat like crazy I will be done one day lol I think you done two cars to my 3/4 of a car should have bought full quarters a lot of work!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

@@gibsonexplorer8777 understand that. I am still working panels on the great pumpkin. It seems to never end. I am looking forward to the completion of the body work

[@gibsonexplorer8777]

@@VinylVillageGarage yes that's me never ending lol

[@burntclutches]

Great tip, question- the GTO did you use a base coat clear coat or single stage? Have a great weekend!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Base clear PPG stuff. The clear i used this is no longer available I really liked it. I use the PPG 2042 clear now and still get good results

[@GreaseMonkey68]

I’ve been told that a DA with 80 grit should be done after media blast or is this just an overkill?

[@VinylVillageGarage]

If it’s blasted with baking soda only the metal is very smooth and in that case maybe sand it first. The media my guy uses is crushed glass and it leaves the metal open and rough enough I don’t have any adhesion issues, using this method over 25 years now and have not had any primer lifting issues. Just definitely keep oil off the metal before painting

[@chuckeecheese162]

😎 lookin good

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Good morning and thanks! I feel like all I have been doing is sanding and filler work. I wanted to do some painting.

[@chuckeecheese162]

@@VinylVillageGarage it’s nice to mix it up. She’ll be a sweet little driver.

[@timg8045]

Hey John, question on a different subject. Have you ever replaced the vent fitting on the rear axle, 10 bolt? Looks pretty simple but I don’t want to snap off the old one. If you have can you offer tips on the removal and reinstallation to avoid breakage. Thanks!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Great question. Yes replaced several of them. Most of them are only plastic a few are a metal sleeve. I have broken a few off accidentally but they come out still. I don’t recall any issue removing them to give you any inside information. There is a thicker area right at the base that holds up good to a pair of vice grips twist and pull out. Installation I used the open end of a combination wrench don’t recall the size 3/8 or 7/16” Or there about. Then rest the open end of the wrench on the edge of the base and tap on the wrench to drive it on in. Worst case if you break and can’t remove the base remove the axle and drive it thru and retrieve it from the axle tube. Good luck.

[@timg8045]

@@VinylVillageGarage thanks John! I’m looking into replacing this because I’m on my 2nd axle tube seal that seems to still be dripping fluid. Brand new TIMKEN axle bearing and seal on the passenger side of my 68. Bearings were professionally pressed on by a Fab shop and I reinstalled the last seal myself. I’m pretty mechanically inclined so I took my time and did it right. After about a month of driving I noticed another slight drip. I know not to buy Chinese crap so I went with TIMKEN stuff. Not to say that this stuff is probably still made in Mexico or China. LOL. Anyway I read where the axle vent tube if not doing it’s job could cause this as well. Figured I’d give it a shot. Thanks again for your help, love your videos! 👍🏻

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Glad to help. Good luck on fixing up that leak. Leaks drive me crazy.

[@timg8045]

@@VinylVillageGarage yea me too. Fix one, one or two more pop up. Nature of the Beast. Love these cars!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Lol. Indeed, Tell me about it

[@jaywasser4984]

Hi John, I have a 69 bird that has a black vinyl roof. The vinyl is in great shape and all the edges are good. The problem is that in the middle of the roof the vinyl is not stuck to the roof. When I go down the road it gets a big bubble where air gets under there and "inflates" it. I have not found a vinyl roof shop in my area (NW PA) but thought you may have some ideas?

[@VinylVillageGarage]

I bet that looks interesting driving. I haven’t had that issue before, the best solution would to be replace the vinyl top but I think what you are asking is there a “fix” without removing the top. I know I would try to get some adhesive inside the bubble and reattach it. Being that it’s black helps. I see putting some small holes 1/8” or even smaller in the top random locations and using an air compressor with a small tip air gun and regulate pressure very low to inflate the bubble then use the adhesive with a straw attachment and spray it around in the random holes the straw Would help get it in further. The when done little dab black rtv to fill the holes. Now the possible issues, adhesive might squeeze out the holes and might get on the top or even while spraying the glue it might come out the holes from air escaping. Long answer, just a thought or how I would try and save the top. NW PA how close to Greensburg or latrobe are you? I make a trip there at least one time a year

[@jaywasser4984]

@VVG Firebird Restoration Station I'm in Jamestown. Midway between Pittsburgh and Erie. I've considered trying to sqirt adhesive with a syringe but wasn't sure how that would stick.

[@VinylVillageGarage]

@@jaywasser4984 I was pondering the syringe too but wasn’t sure you could get enough adhesive in.

[@jaywasser4984]

@VVG Firebird Restoration Station I'd really rather replace the top so I know what's under there. Any chance you will be doing a video on that? 😁

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Well the answer is yes. And the best part is this will be my very first vinyl top installs. I have removed them and done Convertible tops so I am hopeful it goes well. If not i can share with you what not to do.

[@jraposo911]

Hey. You get to kill some weeds on your lawn too! Win win. Will you paint the pumpkin yourself at home?😊JR

[@VinylVillageGarage]

I don’t like cutting grass so win win!! I will be painting this car at home. Most likely the last one I do. I feel it’s a great idea to do this last one to make how to videos on painting in a small space but still get a great finish.

[@RhinosRestomods]

I’d be scared to get overspray on that beautiful car!

[@VinylVillageGarage]

The old goat looks decent still but up close it’s getting tired and need of some love. Door dings galore, and my abilities to do body work has improved over the last 20 years. Overspray might just motivate me to get it done sooner

[@woodrowdelozier1]

😎❤

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Yeah. Last piece to be cleaned!!

[@woodrowdelozier1]

@VVG Firebird Restoration Station it's not long now till it's paint time

[@VinylVillageGarage]

Indeed I am so looking forward to that.