When the client tell's you, he knows a guy who will work for less. Just smile and say, I have clients that pay me more. And never be afraid to walk away.
@SDsc0rch5 жыл бұрын
brilliant - I'm gonna use this
@bionicbird52905 жыл бұрын
When they say that to me I say “I’m sure they know what their services are worth, and I know what mine are worth.”
@reedo.30915 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine owns a pawn shop and people come in all the time, ask about some item, then say “they have that same thing down at “Walmart” or “Home Depot” or whatever store...for the same price (or less)” and instead of saying anything he has the name/phone#/Address of every store in a 20 mile radius printed out behind the counter. He simply takes a copy from the stack and highlights the store they claimed has the better price and says “here ya go...drive safe!” It’s so much funnier in real life than it sounds reading this! Their facial expressions are priceless!
@DRONR5 жыл бұрын
Jim mckay absolute 🔥 🔥 🔥
@mcrcomics25 жыл бұрын
I always say if you think their work is better than mine you should hire them...If not then hire me...Works every time.... Everyone who has ever tried this line with me was just trying to get me to drop my price....If they knew someone already we probably wouln't be having this discussion in the first place
@TrehanCreekOutdoors7 жыл бұрын
Pricing info starts at about 7:00. I suggest skipping ahead to that point.
@pureradio56557 жыл бұрын
Life on Trehan Creek tysm
@Neilram20016 жыл бұрын
Thx man. You’re the man.
@petebuoy6 жыл бұрын
One more thanks to Life on T. , I was about to go away from this, it si so many video that do nothing but only 7 minutes, basically telling why they can't tell. F click bait. But thanks to you I finally learn something.
@duncanmacleod21366 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of good info before that
@petebuoy6 жыл бұрын
Agree, it just so many videos goes to nothing. Just click bait, all you get what you get in this video in first 7 min. After I knew that there is really good info here, I watched whole video and agree with you. Thank you
@MatthewParksSr7 жыл бұрын
first, don't ever apologized for what you charge! you are worth what your customers will pay. knowing your worth is the most important lesson in life. your reel speaks for itself. do u, lil brother.
@GawgaCracka6 жыл бұрын
Well said sir. Self confidence, self worth, is important no matter what business your entering.
@Thriftybastard5 жыл бұрын
As with any service or product, market bares only the price customer is willing to pay. Your challenge is to convince them to pay your price.
@ufx7rxgixirxirxhdsszox8rxahwov5 жыл бұрын
nice
@KarlGPhoto5 жыл бұрын
The one thing I noticed about being undercut by craigslist photographers in orange county was the clients that usually told me they could have somebody do it cheaper ended up coming back to me because they wanted the quality that I could provide.
@ogbm43385 жыл бұрын
Dam tough
@DRONR5 жыл бұрын
KarlGPhoto you’re right!!!
@redlightrunner9305 жыл бұрын
fuk yes
@davstube7 жыл бұрын
Man what you shared was deep, but you know that's what trail blazers and leaders do! Teaching and sharing the knowledge to improve the community! Thanks man I really appreciate that brave step! Keep up the good work it's going pay off you will see blessing are on the way!
@DRONR7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, David. Appreciate the encouragement!
@yensysaerialimaging35235 жыл бұрын
Big issues I've found in Florida (exp in realestate) is either some body goes down to walmart or bestbuy,buys an air or mavic pro then runs around selling "aerial shots " for 20.. 25 bucks. Severely undercutting prices and without knowledge of editing, angles etc putting out some crappy stuff making it little harder for the customer to try aerial again.
@TommyBaldwin6527 жыл бұрын
As a business owner in a different field. I like everything you said. Very well thought out and very informative video. I wish you continued luck in your buisness. I wish more " buisness owners" were like you and had your smarts. These fly by night operations or flashes in the pan guys only hurt established buisnesses. They continually drive pricing down. They make me have explain thier actions and then my own on almost every sale. They last 6 months to a year and push back standards years at a time with thier poor buisness ethics. Kudos to you sir.
@ChadBoston4 жыл бұрын
This info is cross industry!!!
@thattubesound22146 жыл бұрын
As one of those folks who is just getting into droning, this is an excellent explanation of a very touchy subject. Watch the whole vid - it's awesome stuff. Thank you for putting this out there! Cheers!
@makatron7 жыл бұрын
Coming from photography, I agree that finding the proper amount to charge for your work is a difficult task for the newcomers, specially since you're so new that you don't even know what you're worth. I charge 350/h for anything less than 4 hours, then full production day is at least 1,500 and they have to provide food and a place to rest and charge the batteries. Also for a full production day you need at least 4 and get a charger that can charge 3 simultaneously.
@makatron6 жыл бұрын
WalkaboutLife because it's a personal channel not a business one. Any other questions?
@sednal6 жыл бұрын
i love this info thankyou isaac, i assume your talking USD not euros?
@makatron6 жыл бұрын
USD of course
@leetnessgaming97515 жыл бұрын
Isaac Alonzo what type of work do you do?
@RedDawnAviation5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the all the commenters. I found that (in a graphics arts business) charging “too little” makes you appear needy or weak. My motto is, I would rather have one client for a $1000 than three clients for $300. Those $300 dollar guys will nit pick you like crazy. Obviously that can’t “afford” normal pricing and will push for every cent they can squeeze. The $1000 guy understands you got this, you are the pro! Not to mention, less work and only dealing with one client!
@Darth_SurgeYo5 жыл бұрын
Business is war, under cutting is just part of the game. No one in business has ever said “Let’s not take the competition’s business”. People starting out will charge cheaper to get in the door then raise their prices later. Some do just as good a job, no ones born knowing it all, they learn as they do. I do like how you list out what the customers paying for, good stuff.
@Sensei__Nate Жыл бұрын
Business usually look for untapped markets not competition. Why put yourself in a competitive situation on purpose? Not a smart business move
@KuRnZ5 жыл бұрын
Excuse my French, but this was informative AF for someone like me who's in the same, or aiming to be in the same industry. Thanks an eff ton.
@AustinBoil7 жыл бұрын
I've been a consultant (not in the video industry) for 15 years and have learned a lot. What he says here about going the "inexpensive" route is spot on. When you charge too little or undercut others doing similar services you are only hurting yourself in the long run. Free, cheap, inexpensive, etc. all carry a perception. That perception is whatever it is doesn't carry a lot of value. Something that is perceived to not have much value is never going to command much money and the person providing the service is never going to be perceived as one with skills and experience above any average person. You have to also remember as a consultant, you also have health insurance, taxes, travel, etc. that should be baked into the cost as those are real costs that come out of your pocket, so you should be. Sometimes it takes explaining to the client why costs are what they are. Most have no clue or have never thought about the underlying costs involved. When someone responds with "that costs too much", you have to ask them "do you mean you believe the product isn't worth it, or do you mean you don't have the budget to pay that?". Those are two completely different scenarios. If they simply don't have the money, move on.
@dlamoro16 жыл бұрын
Well put. I have a small heating and air business in a fast growing city . You talk about a cut throat industry. I am a long time RC pilot and have taken this hobby and started a business and am already seeing how cut throat it is. I started this venture before the part 107 and spent 10K getting my pilots license so I could do this legitimately. Now everybody and there dog is starting a drone business and doing it for nothing, especially in real-estate. Thanks FAA! Ruining pilots lives daily!
@wilfdarr6 жыл бұрын
Austin Boil and further, even if the production isn't worth that to them today, that's a far cry from your services not being worth what you are asking.
@Sveltdre5 жыл бұрын
Austin Boil perhaps those with money need to stop being CHEAP. And paying friends and family for poor quality. But it’s the industry.
@Sveltdre5 жыл бұрын
Austin Boil most don’t have the budget to pay. The industry has bastardized itself.
@Sveltdre5 жыл бұрын
dlamoro1 and part107 is a laughable joke. Makes no sense, unrealistic hypotheticals, just another money making scheme.
@flatheadprints7 жыл бұрын
I found in the real estate market to charge for the day of the shoot. I get $350 for the day, I get a check $350 and at the same time I give the realtor the footage and have them look for the sequence they want and order. From there I charge $37.50 per hour for editing. My last two jobs from the same realtor with their input took 20hrs. So I made $1100 total. I fly 3DR SOLO.
@sethbob57427 жыл бұрын
Does it take an entire day to do one house? or do you do several homes in one day?
@RedTVProductions7 жыл бұрын
So you have no idea what to shoot to sell a house? Thats funny. You actually let the realtor pick the footage? Then you charge $37 an hour to edit? One thing about that is that if you lose a job, you won't miss the money.
@TheseMaineTowns Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your transparency and counsel. You are a gift to KZbin.
@bandito11476 жыл бұрын
You've hit it right on the head and it's not just the drone industry! It happens in all professions you get the amateurs that low bid for many reasons. It kills everyone, I'm an amateurs myself just getting started don't even know if I will really end up doing professional work. I try to never undercut anyone cause in the end I've cut my own throat. This is good though to help make people aware that and give ideas of how you have to look at all the aspects of coming up with prices.
@richthedroneguy89435 жыл бұрын
Customers need to realize that the "day of work" they hire you for also includes all the time at home editing, then re-editing when they preview the footage and request changes.
@zachsowersfilmandphoto66595 жыл бұрын
Not for the level he's doing. They will be editing.
@MistaPoLo567 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great advice. I’m a new drone operator who is trying to start a business. This video gave me a lot of insight.
@DRONR7 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome! Check out my beginner vids and part 107 study guide. Super helpful!
@MistaPoLo567 жыл бұрын
DRONR thank you. I have to other partner and we all are subscribers to your channel. Thanks for all the information
@dronevideos78827 жыл бұрын
Yet people do. Including myself
@RedTVProductions7 жыл бұрын
What a stupid thing to say? Just stupid.
@buckrainosek78566 жыл бұрын
And the Earth is flat too!!! Moron.
@henriettawight52162 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this. I am a 25 year pilot and have been flying radio controlled aircraft for 45 years. I just gotcmy part 107 license and am looming forward to putting my skills to work.
@KAAKEproperties6 жыл бұрын
At least he said what he charges for his base rate. Many of these videos they don't even say what they charge. And yet there are tons of videos on pricing drone videos.
@bruceneedleman11797 жыл бұрын
Excellent video with information that applies to most professions. I'm a plumber who has heard all of the same and valid points. The problem tends to be that many new to business do not understand what their true "overhead" expenses are and end up giving away the store. On the other hand there are a lot of crooked contractors. I think the most important point that was made in the video was that we are entitled to a living wage ( that includes benefits ) and that all goes into your calculations. And the photography industry, unlike plumbing, is very creative, so all that should also go into the equation.
@MikeGradyPDX4 жыл бұрын
Back in the 60's my Dad called a TV repairman to 'fix' or tweak our B/W TV. That was what one did with technology that nobody fully understood. The repairman showed up, turned the TV on, played with the knobs a little, and then took the cover off the back of the TV. He then turned a single screw, and boom! It worked great! He then handed my Dad a bill for $60. Dad freaked out, (as $60 was like $600 back then.) He shouted: "$60 to turn ONE screw? That's highway robbery!" The repairman responded: "It's not that I turned 1 screw and it cost $60, Sir! It's knowing WHICH screw to turn, that legitimizes the price." :)
@c-a-nelson7 жыл бұрын
I see how hard it is for you to talk about all of this. But as a man looking to get into the drone.. cinematography.. business, I sincerely appreciate this video. I am researching this topic constantly and your videos stand out to me. Because of this video Here, I am a proud new subscriber. Thank you and keep up the good work.
@MichaelHurdleStudio7 жыл бұрын
Great information. I 100% agree with the under cutting. It hurts all of us in the long run.
@DRONR7 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@1dandandy17 жыл бұрын
Aviation has always been a cutthroat business. The running joke is hold a cardboard sign which reads: "Will fly for food". Just hold your ground on prices.
@sardomnumspa5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful because people act like their pricing is CLASSIFIED and telling you is a dis service to you to tell you! Then when people undercharge because they don’t know those same people yell that they are undercutting the industry! Having this as a base or goal helps to start out more realistically! Thanks for the information even though you did not mention pricing for delivery of edited video vs raw unedited video which is important as well (and what clients have been expecting)?
@DRONR5 жыл бұрын
sardomnumspa every client is different. But 99% of my clients want the raw footage.
@medialegend7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, B. I really appreciate your honesty and integrity in tackling this difficult area. It's given me food for thought and made me understand just how much needs to be considered when pricing up a job. Great work!
@DRONR7 жыл бұрын
+medialegend thanks !
@jacknick4295 жыл бұрын
OURSTANDING VIDEO & ADVICE !!!! I’ve seen other industry revenue streams become “destroyed” by a “rush to be the lowest priced guy on the block”. I’m very thankful for your wisdom and willingness to share it with all of us viewers!! Best of luck to to you in the future !!!
@leetnessgaming97515 жыл бұрын
What drone would you recommend to start with that would do the most wide range of jobs. A Phantom 3 pro?
@DRONR5 жыл бұрын
LeetnessGaming it depends on the types of jobs you’re looking to have. My first drone was a micro drone. They’re extremely difficult to learn to fly on, but if you can master it the bigger more expensive drones will be a breeze.
@clayjenkins59495 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no clue if you will comment back to this, since this video is over two year old, but I have a few questions for you! I have only very recently gotten any experience with drones, I go to Murray State University in Murray, Ky and we had a drone class I took was an elective, I was fascinated with them and the more I flew the more I realized I would like to get into doing this as a side job. I took and passed the Pt. 107 test, and am now going to start looking into purchasing my first drone. We flew Phantom 4 pros for the class, so I have two questions! What would be a good drone as far as starting out trying to do some jobs, and what would be the best way to start building up and or finding clients? I’d really like to know before I go buy a drone and then can’t use it anywhere but my family farm! Hopefully you will see this and respond! Thank you!
@airnashville38837 жыл бұрын
This single video is perhaps the best I've seen on KZbin based solely on content and information. This should be required viewing for anyone who even thinks about starting a UAV-based business.
@Didisayhi4 жыл бұрын
Love this content you got a new subscriber!!!! Looking forward
@m6photographyusa6756 жыл бұрын
Well done thank you for putting your self out there with your pricing.
@weasele15 жыл бұрын
where is a good place to go to find out how and where to get a drone licence
@DRONR5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Rueck remotepilot101.com
@petergoldwing36984 жыл бұрын
Good point. Im not looking to make any money with my Autel Evo , just enjoy flying and taking videos.Been in electrical business for many years and your advice is great for every business. If you get every job you bid on your price is too low.
@superv3k9006 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! I am new to the industry but have flown drones in the past for fun. Now I am ready to go to the next step, and I am taking this very serious, and I also agree with everything you said in this video. Thank you for taking the time to educate us newbies and how we should support our other pilots.
@GunnyJeffers6 жыл бұрын
Shitttttt. Just passed my 107 yesterday, first "furtherance of a business" job is in 48 hours. I wouldn't have factored in my drone use for ….never mind. Thanks for the informative video. Semper Fly! Gunny J. OUT!
@bhoff825 жыл бұрын
How’s the business going 3 months later Gunny? I’m considering doing the same thing, getting my 107 in the near future. -Semper Fi Devil Dog.
@markkouri28776 жыл бұрын
Excellent words or wisdom gained from experience! I ha e years of broadcast TV, commercials and documentary experience, but I am new to drones. I will take your advice to heart. Thank you.
@FlashframeFilms6 жыл бұрын
What a great, great, did I mention great post. As a self employed video pro for over 25 yrs, working mainly as an editor, writer, producer, but now branching out with my production co to high end production, live event webcasting & streaming and aerial cinematography, I can say with110% confidence that the biggest threat to my biz in NYC has been lowballing or underpricing. They say the talent always finds a way to rise to the top but with any leading edge tech, the talent can simply get overcrowded or drowned out of the game all together. Thank you for being brave & confident enough to put your pricing structure out there for others to learn by. A. It shows the rookies that succeeding in a professional production environment requires much more than showing up with your Mavic and a dozen batteries. And B. At least in my case, though I may be a step or 2 below you in level of professional capability, your post shows me that my prices are basically scaled fairly & realistically in relation to yours, along with laying out some of the items that I need to continue strengthening in my technical capabilities and knowledge base to continue to grow this portion of my business to the professional level I require & insist on from all of my other specialties. So thank you so much for this. It is incredibly useful & appreciated & best of luck for continued success in all of your business endeavors.
@wahapete7 жыл бұрын
Great Ball Park look at Drone Pricing!
@The570Experience6 жыл бұрын
The prices are way different in Pennsylvania where I'm from...make sure if you're new to charging money for drone footage that you compare to local photographers...good info in this video
@pmh1nic6 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and information. I don't think the average person understands the liability aspect of the job. Beyond that, as you mentioned, unless it's super high end photography or videography the newer drones that you can by for a few thousand dollars can produce good quality results that for many jobs would be acceptable. I thinking pricing is going to transition to a place where a lot of work will not provide a living wage but there will be enough people willing to do for the love of flying and supplemental income (weddings, parties, special events, real estate, inspection, etc.) and high end work that does require a higher level of expertise on many levels and pay a living wage.
@DRONR5 жыл бұрын
pmh1nic thanks! Agreed.
@masterofate48526 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video! Pricing is a tough one to talk about. I have owned and run three different businesses, two of which were great money making ventures till people came in in droves and charged a fraction what I was charging. My businesses had an extreme amount of training and equipment cost before even beginning to seek customers. Along comes these people that spend little to nothing in training, minimal equipment, and low ball all local contracts, cutting the legs off of the professionals. It takes months or years before customers see the value they were getting with trained licensed professionals most of the time. Thanks again for your video. I hope that new operators will listen and think about the industry as a whole after viewing.
@MyChannelVideosz6 жыл бұрын
you were overcharging then. The market pays what the market pays. You had what is called a "first mover" advantage that got taken away once the market caught up .
@HeguB5 жыл бұрын
Randomly found this video. I have to say this was gold, pretty much literally ! Awesome vid, subscribed!
@BIGDRONEFLYER77RC7 жыл бұрын
so awesome B for your videos and congrats to all the winners. Glad everyone is tuning in on an amazing channel right here. And of course drone media as well.
@GIScartography7 жыл бұрын
Woah dude. This is some seriously good content. The way you are using your language and respecting the environment you are in is next level. Thank you so much!
@GadgetInspector7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video. It has been a burning question for me for a while now. I got my 107 in June and I'm currently working with a SCORE mentor in order to start a drone business and I'm trying to be methodical about this. This is valuable info for real life application. Love the tip about calling around to determine competitor pricing.
@ctweddingfilms44796 жыл бұрын
Working drones since 2014, and still run into the common response that your trying to rob them. In areas where filming is not common, the value proposition is much more difficult, and everybody thinks they can do it DIY. Keep plugging B.
@MasonMarshall326 жыл бұрын
Some may agree, some will disagree... As a commercial pilot of manned aircraft and a 107 holder, it is sometimes cheaper for the customer if I use a manned aircraft simply because I cut through the red tape of waivers. It really is sometimes cheaper to use a manned aircraft for the shot (depending on shot needed). After the time invested in airspace waivers a small chopper with a mid range camera is still the best choice. Above 500 feet a manned aircraft can fly over people and get the shot the day of without waiting for or doing research for the waiver. Which in my example, the over people waiver will 99.9999 % not be approved.
@drone-n-it63466 жыл бұрын
Business can be tough. In almost every sector there are people who will undercut. The way I deal with it is being very knowledgeable and not selling someone something they do not need. I also do my best to get get the job done right and when they need it. So treat your customers like they are your friends because they are. Also I did not see anything about building in replacement cost, nothing lasts forever and will usually cost more next time around, this includes the vehicles that get you where you need to, which will need tires, maintenance and other repairs. So like the man said do not cheap out, it is just not worth it .
@elmofpv27367 жыл бұрын
man I've been thinking about this and I just stumbled on to your page.... awesome find. Good luck! and thanks for answering some questions I didn't know I had lol
@WesleyFranks6 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this. I just started my company and I just can't tell you how much it means to hear someone make sure that we aren't undercutting because our skills/time/investment is valuable. Plus to not undercut other professionals who have been doing it for awhile.
@NickedOff5 жыл бұрын
Superb video. The newbie's that undercut the more experienced camera operators have been a growing issue in all areas of cinema/videography (not just drone operation). It forces the guys in the mid-level to drop their price because they begin starving for work until it's an non-livable income for everyone. That's where I begin to like the 107 certification. At least it weeds out some of the "rich-daddy-sons" and non-serious videographers who aren't willing to put in the work and education into doing it on a more professional scale. Videography overall has become a struggle to make it (especially in certain areas) when everyone now has a 4K camera and the clients (again, in certain areas) are also not educated and just want the cheapest rate. Great insight into the drone market, you've earned yourself another subscriber.
@ziggypuppyproductions74536 жыл бұрын
Bravo! I love it when other business people put it straight and tell people to STOP undercutting and racing to the bottom with pricing. GREAT advice calling around to your LOCAL competition to find out what is norm.That advice is gold and not just drone specific. I own 2 businesses and this is exactly what I have done.
@ziggypuppyproductions74536 жыл бұрын
New sub because of it too!
@jasonthompson8697 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sound advice. It was clear and concise and showed not only savvy business acumen, but depth of points to consider. As a passionate newbie to this I really appreciate the insight. Thanks from Australia !!
@gunchief08114 жыл бұрын
As a D.J. I'M JUST so on point with this.. its IDENTICAL to.our industry With pricing etc. But as I up my professional career in entertainment the cinematic type of film has peaked my imagination for the possibilities of what my business can do..
@ktdin3195 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Plenty valuable information. Don't skip through the video.
@DRONR5 жыл бұрын
Kt Din thanks!!
@RonAckerman-USA6 жыл бұрын
Hugely informative man, thank you so much. I am not looking to drone commercially - even though I am going to get my UAS license -, but the way you explain the intricacies of commercially piloting a drone is eye-opening. Thank and much success to you.
@CrazyCopter7 жыл бұрын
We, as a community, have the same problem in Poland. A lot of people getting into the businness, have low prices and trying to get first clients!
@JakeGleim6 жыл бұрын
I would be very interested to know what your thoughts are for charging clients for simple drone clips. IE a Wedding film or very small short corporate film. Most of the films I am hired to do include some drone footage but its like, 10-15 seconds of drone footage. Currently I just wrap it into my prices as I believe drones are a huge piece of my artistic style. Granted I also don't charge by day but by film as each film varies drasticly in post.
@KeithTheGreatH4 жыл бұрын
Really good info. I'm a beginner but this is good to know once I get more experience. Thank you
@Khercules6 жыл бұрын
Nothing but respect to you. Hopefully this will deter people from hurting this industry even more.
@rvmorgan476 жыл бұрын
Just wondering out of a full day how much shoot time should you tell them to expect. In other words for a 10 hour day they should expect about how many hours of film.
@l3eaver6 жыл бұрын
How would you charge per say... a farmer wants some Ariel pictures of his farm yard and land. Would you charge travel time? Or only the hours that the bird is in the air? How much per hour also?
@DRONR5 жыл бұрын
Travis N. I charge per job. Typically by the day...or rarely by the half day. Everything is a negotiation you just have to dictate where those negotiations start.
@riverrat_uk6 жыл бұрын
great video, im in the uk and work for a security company that does clubs, pubs/bar and music events and also f1 etc. Sometimes we have 4 guys in a campsite that is holding 2000 cars and tents and people and we have been talking about drones for patrols. What drone would you say is good for lets say 5 miles max range and flight time of max 30 mins to patrol and of course easy to use. In the UK we would have to get a CAA drone course done. (around £1500 ) People say get the p4 pro and a themo camera add on. How much would you say could charge a day (12 hour shifts) etc
@SlotCat6 жыл бұрын
Question: (Pardon if you have already covered this but) I have been flying drones for fun now for 4 years. But I am about to get my Part 107. I notice a lot of adds for drone pilots that required logged hours. What exactly do you use to "log" your flying hours?
@Bathingwookie6 жыл бұрын
In your description is says your baby is the Phantom 3 Pro? Do you mean P4P?
@AppliedMetaphysician6 жыл бұрын
Some really good advice dude. I would add that, coming from a computing and technology background, I tend to lower my rates for small non/not-for-profit entities and for local 'community service' groups. I had set standards which I applied (I'm retired now) across the board, whether I knew the people involved or not, so nobody ever gave me grief about "Well, you cut so-and-so a break, why not me?" I just made sure that they knew what my Standard rates were and how much of a discount they were getting. Doing this generated tons of local goodwill and a boatload of word-of-mouth buzz; which in the former case came back from local property owners giving me free permission to shoot many days of 'run & gun' ground footage; and in the latter case, since "Everybody knows somebody who knows somebody who has money" came back to me by way of a new client who had never heard of me, and that I would never have thought to contact. Of course, I don't advertise. Everything I do is from word-of-mouth referrals. My only exception to the non-profit rule is that if a "non-profit" can afford to pay their CEO $1,000,000+ in salary, they can cough-up my regular rates. :) Again, you gave good advice. And your conversational delivery is ever so much more engaging than 'chapter & verse' and pie-charts.
@RickiKeith7 жыл бұрын
There is ALWAYS a first time... a lot of first timers here I am thinking, by touting your laundry list and saying that it is a really big deal, is frankly intimidating. It would be nice IF you expounded on your first or first few clients and how you were able to land them... THAT would be priceless.
@EyeonFGCPlus5 жыл бұрын
I usually don't subscribe to people on the first video I watch and I watch ALOT of KZbin to learn about whatever I am interested in at the time. I just recently got a Mavic mini a few weeks ago but have been learning about it maybe a month prior. Last night I started considering getting the Part 107 and started studying for it. All the info you have given has been really helpful to new people like me and definitely is helpful to your fellow Drone Pilots so the industry doesn't tank from people doing less quality work for less just to start working. But it's definitely nice to know what the work is worth so I can practice for that level of Pay. I am not sure how much work I would be able to do with a Mavic mini but I am sure there is something I could do, right? I figured if I can do something to make money with this Drone eventually, (not really why I bought it in the first place but always looking to bring value back) I would be able to put the money back into my drone and upgrade to something like a Mavic Pro 2 and go from there. I have been into Photography as a hobby for the past like 5 months and wanted the drone to go along with that.
@StickyIky4 жыл бұрын
Very honest and transparent, respect for sharing all the important tip
@iassacspurlin13685 жыл бұрын
You have completley destroyed my will to start a drone buisness thanks my man
@flyinlo14747 жыл бұрын
Thank you. What an awesome video!! I've had a P3P for a couple of years and just got my Inspire 2 and ready to move to the next level. This video was just great!!!
@mikemuscatello88537 жыл бұрын
How's it going I just wanted to say I just became a commercial UAV pilot after passing my 107 exam and even tho I passed a test that says I can do this I still continue to self educate my self on laws regulations and other safe operations as I don't want to break any laws either and want to operate in a professional matter I've spent at least a whole work week in hours watching videos informing my self on sUAS material and I wanted to say once I found your KZbin I stopped searching I enjoy your topics they are very informative and even if you are or aren't a paid KZbinr I thank you for taking the time out of your day to teach and inform because prior to being aerial I still did video editing and I know it takes a lot of time and work even for a simple KZbin video, so as I was saying THANK YOU!! I look forward to more from you
@DRONR7 жыл бұрын
+Mike Muscatello thanks, Mike! Appreciate it and congrats !
@VeRSINGOnTheGo7 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated this vid. Personally mostly fly in So. America. Had issues for a couple of weeks that am still trying to iron out with DJI GO4 App operating on Samsung Tab A, w / Droid 6.6+ Op Sys, just will not launch no matter what I do with any manipulation. Still working on it, but sadly had to purchase a damn IPhone 6 to get the MPP to launch and operate immediately. Have been operating several platforms however this MPP is much better for transporting currently. I operate around Narco territory, Military & Police zones which are all located in what we call red zones. Much attention is paid and so far much permissions granted as long as they are informed and where I operate. Did my first business transaction as a business land owner granted us permission to operate off his premises. Before completion, did multiple shots of his business from altitude, side angles and head on initially to edit and send free of charge just for initial establishment and to get our name out there initially with our first recommendation/addition to our portfolio. Then the pricing begins. Wife to contact 2 additional businesses in week since we have a good reputation with to add a boost to their networking and advertising. Again, thank you for sharing. Keep the great vids coming!!
@samyork80597 жыл бұрын
I have questions about flying at night. I did it and I looked at the rec. license and it wasn't iligal. When you have a part 107 license is that when you can't fly at night ?
@StixFPV6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, you've definitely helped to educate me. I've been racing drones for a few years now and have recently been getting into the cinematography side of it and considering trying to make some extra money. Without watching this, I probably would've been "that guy" that inadvertantly undercut everyone. Thanks again!
@superv3k9006 жыл бұрын
Same here...
@davypelletier6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have recently added a drone to my arsenal for my clients, its nice to see my idea of pricing is inline with what you discussed. Also nice to know related pricing within the industry. Some good explanations of why we charge what we charge.
@hueydevoted6 жыл бұрын
I agree very much with the points made here. Very much like the video...very straight forward. But one MAJOR thing to keep in mind. You have that huge laundry list of top notch experience. There is NO WAY an entry level operator can charge anywhere near what you charge....and they shouldn't. I think entry level people should be very clear about their experience and charge accordingly. You I'm certain are very clear about your level of expertise and charge accordingly. It falls largely on YOU to sell that level of service that you can provide. I hate undercutting, but there is sometimes not a big difference in the way "undercutting" is looked at vs. someone entry level trying to get into the market. It's all about perspective sometimes. Loved the video!
@dysfunctional_vet5 жыл бұрын
oh disappoiintment.....you did not say what to charge when a drone hits primary..... the light show...that is the money maker thank you for an honest presentation of pricing. i'm looking to get into this for a very select market...will advise on success after i past my 107
@Bournebrother6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video. Professional pilot/Architect looking to add to and merge skill sets for future work opportunities. This is great, even if I end up working for a company, it's good to know how to price services.
@6spdbeast6 жыл бұрын
How do you handle video editing? Do you just give clients raw footage to do what they want with? Or do you offer video editing packages as well? For simple cinematography jobs obviously. Thanks, -Adam
@DRONR5 жыл бұрын
6spdbeast 99% of my clients are doing their own editing. I don’t edit, but i know editors I recommend if need be.
@russellrohan9917 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great information. Can you do a video on local permitting and what permitting steps should be taken before flying overseas.
@DRONR7 жыл бұрын
will think about that one. thanks
@cyrosantos58826 жыл бұрын
Dude, You are very professional!!! I wish all the best for you. God Bless you. Thanks for this video I am Portugal and I am starting pretty soon.
@GeorgeSPAMTindle6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a useful and informative video. Here's a bit more advice from my experience of re-building and servicing a friend's fleet. One thing that my friend always does is provide a contract and an invoice. If a potential client doesn't want either, he won't work for them. Another crucial thing to do is to have lots of drones (at least three) and lots of batteries. Having an idiot like me to look after the damn things is also useful. Why three drones? One is the 'master drone', which is what you usually use to do the work with. Another is a back-up in case the master drone malfunctions or crashes. The third drone is the 'weather check drone'; this does not need to be particularly good. Before throwing thousands of pounds (or dollars) up into the air send up a drone that cost less than 200 pounds / 300 dollars, then see how stable it can hover at the intended working altitude.. If all is well send up the master drone, if things are a bit risky send up the back-up drone, if the weather check drone crashes, go home.
@gustuten26877 жыл бұрын
i have looked at different sties about drone pricing but i thing that you have Great Ball Park figures its a grate place for ppl to get good start from .alos love 1 of those t shirts XL is the size lol
@DoomerONE7 жыл бұрын
I truly appreciate this video regarding pricing. Since I am still on the path to the Part107 and also learning "the hard way" about flying my drone. (aka: its at the DJI service center atm) this information was very useful. I live in a very rural location and there is only one other drone pilot in the area. Most of the clients I have talked to are not pleased with his pricing nor his availability. I hope to improve on both and still remain competitive. This video will honestly help me find the happy medium. Good luck on your transition. Can't wait to see the permanent new digs.
@DRONR7 жыл бұрын
Good luck to you too!! Sounds like you're in the right mindset. The clients will be lucky to have you. I'm going to be shooting some "how to get the best shots" videos soon! Stay tuned!
@Jancarlos15977 жыл бұрын
+DRONR i'll def will be waiting for that!!!
@DoomerONE7 жыл бұрын
Thanks I would really appreciate ideas or hints to getting good images. I spend several hours each day flying and practicing. I have tried my hand at a few KZbin videos to get feedback from the community and look for areas I can improve. I have really been bitten by this drone bug and want to see how far I can take it. Feel free to look at my channel, I would always appreciate constructive feedback.
@liambrown89716 жыл бұрын
Hi so I currently own a q500 4K it’s a pretty good drone for the price I really want to get into real estate but I’m not sure how any suggestions?
@KnightsArmory5 жыл бұрын
Great information
@isadoreadger74927 жыл бұрын
Hey DRONR, I just subscribed to your channel. I'm an avid drone pilot and enjoy flying my PHANTOM 3 (for recreational purposes only). Enjoy watching your videos because I always learn something useful. Keep up the great work.
@DRONR7 жыл бұрын
+isadore adger thanks for subbing!
@weasele15 жыл бұрын
im in Florida I have 5 years experience flying rc no quad copters just cp helies and full house fixed wing rc. what if a farmer just wants someone to fy over his fields to scare off animals
@allperspectivedrones48235 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I want to be competitive, but not over step any bounds for sure.
@NikTejeda6 жыл бұрын
Do your rates include editing after words, or just the flying and pictures/videos unedited
@waynerobinson26567 жыл бұрын
Very good info B and a lot of food for thought. Thanks for being up front and keeping up the good informative work you do.
@DRONR7 жыл бұрын
Thanks,Wayne!
@sersec87854 жыл бұрын
How much should I charge for my mavic mini? For a Realestate
@davegriffin10176 жыл бұрын
Just getting started commercially with my drones. Thanks for the information and for opening up to the beginners.
@CyberQ46 жыл бұрын
thanks for this! what constitutes a day of work (the shooting part). How much do you actually record? 8 hours is a lot....I imagine this includes travel, battery charging etc..
@curtmartini666 жыл бұрын
I am personally thankfull for all of your information. I have been so under cut in my area by non 107 pilots that real estate photography is a joke!!! But Realtors in my area are finally starting to pay attention to the laws and the price is slowly coming back up. I have a very unique job to do with my drone and Part 107. I can't divulge much info about it but I did wonder if I had my pricing right. Watching this video and putting all things in perspective, I realize I have found a perfect Ballance of where I need to be. Thank you for putting your information and perspective out there. It helped me tremendously.
@Vanlifecrisis6 жыл бұрын
saw an ad for property photography on craigslist. 80$ and oh, if you have a drone and video it they'll give you a little unspecified bonus. Im thinking...do they consider video as worthless ??
@hartzellaerialproductions5277 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight! As a new Productions company I was very unsure about what to charge for pricing. I know feel like I was being the undercutter because my prices are very low. My packages come at a base rate and then pending on location and prep they increase which I feel is a reasonable tactic, say I had to travel and get a hotel, that would have to increase the price of the complete package. Additionally I don't have any other employees at the moment so my overhead cost is low and the only variable expenses are time and that leaves the customer paying for the bill. The hard part for me is where to set the base rate at, this video helped a lot. Thank you!