How to Project Climbs at Your Limit ft.

This week, Louis is joined by the one and only Josh Rundle. At Flashpoint Swindon, they delve into the aims, mindset and tactics of projecting hard climbs; with Louis mentorship can Josh push his limit?
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[@sora_mugen]

Tip from Louis about inner monologue is an extremely good idea not only for the projecting! Very good life principle.👏

[@EastofSublime]

Starts at 21:08 - it is absolutely applicable in all aspects of life and incredible coaching 🙏

[@jacktrussler20]

21:30 is a really interesting concept that comes up a lot in psychology, you'd never talk to someone how you talk to yourself. Self compasion is very important!

[@AllegraClimbingPsychologist]

Exactly, in cognitive behavioural therapy it's called "the best friend technique"!

[@jakieboiZ94]

It's one form of mindfulness. It's a great technique.

[@jacktrussler20]

@@AllegraClimbingPsychologist nice to see you here, love your content!

[@KlaresGedenken]

IFS (inner family systems) is a form of therapy directly focused on these inner voices :)

[@skepticnow2525]

I think I’m schema therapy, you are engaging your ‘healthy adult’ voice and reducing your ‘inner critic’

[@ursinadn]

this video makes me want to come to london to be coached by louis! you're such an inspiring coach

[@rivqah83]

❤ 100%

[@urabagofcells2228]

Great energy but a bit too eager to beta spray and correct when not everyone processes that way with a coach.

[@rebeccathomas6865]

I started climbing because it helped my neck pain that came about from my desk job. I've improved tremendously but when I do get frustrated, I tell myself that I don't have neck pain anymore and isn't that a wonderful thing!

[@blackodem]

It is :)

[@RealLargeManTheGiantOne]

I've started climbing to help with pain after spinal surgery, and it's been fantastic so far, my back hurts so much less

[@UNLIMITED_WMSEEDS]

Climbing is actually a great sport to relieve spinal pain because it strengthens the upper and lower back muscles which results in less stress on bones/joints.

[@Asdfghjkl-ls1or]

​@@UNLIMITED_WMSEEDSyh it totally fixed my posture, I no longer have issues or pains with this

[@lilrako]

this just made me realize i don’t have neck pain anymore 😮

[@AniDormi]

damn that statement 'what if I spoke to you like you just spoke to yourself' and retraining the inner monologue is massive! seriously good mindset stuff there!

[@Shabbi2]

Louis is an amazing coach. I’ve seen some other comments talking about how we talk to ourselves. I just also want to reiterate how great that lesson is. It makes a huge differences. Louis catching that just shows his talent as a coach. Well done!

[@chrisembry3736]

Fantastic tips. And I can totally relate to Josh's frustration. I needed this video to remind me to not be so hard on myself, and it helped me think well outside of what I've been trying on my projects for new ideas to try. Thanks Louis and Josh and all the Catalyst and climbing community! Would add that working on these projects with someone always makes it more fun, and keeping the fun is an easy way to keep the positive vibes high.

[@t666y]

When I did my hardest boulder a few years ago I had tried it for some 40 days over 3 seasons. I got sucked into the “I’ve done all these moves and they all feel easy and I should’ve done this so long ago” and it made every session not sending much harder. Then I had a day out alone and fell on the last move, hopped right back on, did that move to the top and got down happy with it. I had a little pep talk/enlightenment of being okay with not doing it that day and being able to do something doesn’t make you entitled to do it, and that hard climbing is hard. I was okay with the thought of knowing I would eventually doing the climb rather than stressing over doing it quickly. Luckily I did it next go 😂 but just giving myself time made it so much easier to try hard regardless of outcome

[@drchrisharper4688]

This is honestly some of the best coaching I have ever seen. Louis has clearly thought so deeply about mindset etc meaning that so many parts of this advice can be applied to any challenge in life rather than just climbing. Loving these videos recently where we get to see what a 1:1 coaching session is like

[@cornelisgraper8678]

21:30 Damn Louis, not only a climbing trainer, also a mental health coach! That's amazing.

[@AllegraClimbingPsychologist]

Great video! Love all the reflections about the self-talk! It's great to finally see more sport psychology into climbing coaching!

[@OnaticVal]

This vid made me realise that I had a climbing gym in my home town and I have been going for 2/3 months and love every session!

[@nicolasgauthier5359]

Great video and advice on how to stay motivated. For me I remember that I am there to have fun and have a workout. Even then, sometimes I think it's perfectly fine to just move on from the problem for the day, have fun doing something else in the gym and trying again the next session.

[@Callammurray]

I really needed this today struggling at a certain gym with grades that I can do absolutely fine at other gyms and this was extremely helpful to reset my mind and think about this logically again. Thank you

[@sirsploob7942]

what a handsome and rich guest projecting a v15, what a strong climber

[@chinothy]

Amazing video. Every tip, piece of advice, and pointer given is incredibly easy to apply, and can be applied at every single level of climbing. So happy I found this channel last year!

[@jamiepurdie1255]

Absolutely class video. Appreciated the coaching element. Can really take that with me to my next gym session. I felt like it all applied to me... projecting at a MUCH lower grade than V9. Great content. Cheers

[@offhandclimbing]

As s brand new climber, probably very in need of a coach lol, this was super helpful!! A lot of the time I find myself not even attempting problems at or above my current limit because of a lack of confidence in my ability to send them - so I figure why try? This has given me a lot more confidence to just try and has reframed the way I look at approaching the climbs that will be harder for me. Thank you!!

[@avamagnabosco3450]

Louis' "hellooo youtube" makes me so happy his energy is always so great

[@nilsp9426]

Thank you for providing us with your fantastic training, Louis! I certainly try a lot to practice what you preach, because it just works and makes for a better time. I have become conscious about so many mental hurdles and tactics to overcome them, it is a really transformative experience. I think the core lesson I took away from you so far has been this: My goal is not to finish the boulder, but to properly engage with it. This has many advantages: 1) I only aim for things I have under control (most of the time :D) 2) I am more aware of all the little successes and failures - the pieces of the puzzle I try to solve 3) I have many more tactics at my disposal than to "just try hard and send this thing" 4) No matter how strong I am, no matter how bad of a day I have, no matter how hard the climb, I can walk away happily as long as I did what I set out to do 5) I actually send more, because I stick with it more 6) I actually cherish the experience much more and care less about grades. A good climb to have done is one that taught me something or that felt interesting to do, not one that has a high grade.

[@jables9976]

Such a good and well done and well worded video. This is invaluable. You’ve effectively breached one of the most important and toughest things/sides/areas (aka THE MINDSET) about climbing and the framework you‘be offered is fantastic. Thank you for what you do, and thank you for the free coaching session that literally applied to every level of climbing. Well done lad. Thank you!!!

[@vincentoh955]

Your ideas about getting better and staying positive is very simular if not the same as alot of stoic principles. Very underrated and usefull in alot of areas in life, besides climbing too! Love your content and mindset!

[@D3moralizor]

I used to climb for a year or so about 5 years ago but drifted out of it. I never had good habits and since I’ve been back at it for 2 months now I’m trying to have a better approach. I took all the points here on board and was sat trying a boulder i had tried before but just gave up after a few attempts. Finally cracked what the move was supposed to be after a few failed ones and could then do it consistently. Thanks for the great content!

[@Bobbzorzen]

Loved the mindset tips, for sure gonna try them out next session!

[@Shake_Dont_Take]

Thanks for such an enthusiastic video Louis! I think that making strides to address, share and talk more deeply about the process of projecting is a relatively untaped sphere in climbing training. Jerry Moffats "Mindset" book is a magnificent storyteling of articulating his process, and Will Bosi's recent live streams of Burden has produced a novel (n=1) dive into a very unique (his) methodology and mindset of limit projecting at the uppermost echelon of climbing. I genuinely appreciate that Josh is clearly at a very advanced level of climbing and requires a unique/personal approach to his mindset and projecting. Many of the touch points are applicable to many athletes pursuing a deeper understanding of how to define their process to navigating the hopeful success on their personal project(s). One thing I think that was missed in this video that I hope will resonate with many climbers is that each person's individual process towards cultivating success on a limit line... or life project... or even simply that seasons project is unique. What motivates each of us may be different, and even our weekly motivators may be different. Our strategic process may vary widely from project to project. Challenging each of us to pursue new approaches that we had never once before leveraged. Considering that notion. Some canonical strategies may emerge overall... But ultimately, to me..... One idea embodies them all. 1. Be open to talking about moves - how they feel for you, where you feel secure, strong and fluid. 2. Share - Why are you succeeding on a move others are failing on and visa versa. Explore their positions and don't give up on them if they don't unlock a sequence 1st go..... MOVEMENT IS LANGUAGE AND YOU BOTH MAY SPEAK A SIMILAR LANGUAGE BUT A UNIQUE DIALECT 3. Observe, investigate and assimilate - be mindful of others' tactics and processes... BE A SCIENTIST. How do they warm up, talk, focus, problem solve, rest, AND ON AND ON.. be a SPONGE!!! and test out what is your methodology for success with a willingness to always be on the lookout for improvements. 3. Be gentle with yourself... You do this sport/engage in this lifestyle because it is possibly the single greatest thing that has ever happened to you. It was for me PLEASE don't ever forget that. Failing at climbing (to me) is usually far better than succeeding at many other things in life. To be honest, for me at least... The only way I truly fail at climbing, is simply to be upset at the fact that I am actually capable of being able to climb.

[@SirCharcoal]

Such a great coach, I love it. I'm projecting stuff indoors right now and I'm totally nudging the loading bars for each climb

[@forestofdeanboulderer]

Some simple but interesting tips in this vid, cheers! I've added it to one of my climber playlists...

[@connormcneill4298]

This video was a huge help for me with the mentality side of trying climbs at my limit! Was also great to finally meet you at Manchester Depot a couple weeks ago like I said then keep doing what you're doing man :)

[@MartinHansenSkjelvareid]

I found this much more relatable and interesting than the videos of Louis basically flashing everything. Great stuff!

[@fabiopalma4429]

These are really super deep tips. For sure were thought for a long time! Excellent coaching, super positive

[@greysonkeanu]

I love all of these tips! I need to push myself harder by really focusing on each individual move, like you described.

[@GorillaGripChris]

Alright. The mental advice in the video is amazing! Thank you for the insight! I can’t wait to get out there and use the info

[@Nuadin]

I only recently realized i don't have to keep projecting a boulder from the start. If always go back to move one rather than break them into pieces. Now I'm song pieces of them. One climb i thought was incredibly hard, i ended up skipping the start hold which is flip around like a madwoman on and managed to do the rest of the climb. I realized it was just the start i had trouble with. That key me identify a key weakness i have and start trying to train it. Well see how it goes!

[@dominickappeler5150]

'Wunderbar' Greetings from Switzerland🇨🇭

[@maorsaban4629]

9:55 guy at the back is a beast

[@clams419]

at 18:23 too!

[@nightfox6738]

I projected a climb that I wasn't strong enough to do about a month ago. I wanted so badly to clear it before my gym changed the walls (which they do monthly) but the last move was above me on several different levels. It needed a heel hook that I didn't have the flexibility to get, or arm strength that I didn't have either, or finger strength that I also didn't have. A lot of it was due to increased requirements in those areas due to being tall (yes it is sometimes a detriment), but I don't let excuses get in the way I kept working on it until my gym closed the last day of the set. Even though I was really disappointed I didn't manage to complete it, I still learned so much from that boulder that I can take with me to other projects.

[@TLamparter]

really good video! especially loved the focus on he internal monologue!

[@parkerramthun]

Very clean video. Fast progression slowly and smart. Can’t go wrong with this structure

[@ataibaldinger3444]

18:28 guy in the back

[@Dave1507]

Wow, that bit about the inner monologue! I need to remember that. Thanks you two for another super cool coaching session!

[@phillipelapierre3821]

Awesome tips, thank you!

[@J_c40rl3y]

Great vid and advice, Thanks:) wish i had Louis with me as a sensei on projects

[@crhclimbing]

Thanks Louis, I definitely beat up on myself while projecting. Now I'm aware and can retrain my brain. 🤙

[@Azylys-]

So true ! Change the inner monologue ! Useful outside of climbing too ;)

[@adamdecoder1]

I love how Louis does 0 climbing in this video and his hands are still completely chalked up at all times XD

[@blookazoo8562]

But, in the end, did Josh send the V9? I am always curious, what happens after those Videos =D

[@joethompson11]

Such great energy from Louis, I really want to climb now, wall's closed this late though 😂

[@GourmetBurrito]

Pretty early into climbing, so this might have limited reach. There was this long boulder problem that I would just be too gassed by the end of it. And it was getting frustrating because I can do the moves, but I couldn't do them in sequence. I had to ask myself what I needed. More strength would've helped but I started looking for where I could eke out some efficiency. If I could make the early moves just a little bit easier I could do the climb. And, outside the gym, I'd be visualizing the climb and imagine like checkpoints to hit to make sure I didn't cut corners that would ultimately get me more pumped in the long run. Helped me find some other avenue of progress to look towards and send the project just before took it off. That being said, even if they had taken it down before I got it, I learned a lot about body positions in gastons so would've still been worth it

[@pauloth132]

Those words on the inner monologue really got me thinking

[@nomajayy657]

Awesome video. I'm a beginner and this is a great help.

[@ards5161]

Please more content like this! :)

[@hellooooo880]

strangely a lot has translated for me in bouldering from gaming and a great example being the inner monologue thing.

[@alexmarin9991]

Such great advice Luis!

[@HarryJ709]

What is that band that Josh wears on his wrist??

[@malindarayallen]

Louis is your climbing Dad, and he only wants the best for you. 😊

[@alexnunez4019]

Love this ❤

[@ZoniacMan]

Louis has ALOT of chalk on that shirt :O

[@dylandiblik502]

A way I like to work moves in isolation is by downclimbing the move, that way I can feel the position my body needs to end up in and all the steps in between, hope that helps somebody :)

[@jonnes__4657]

🗽Das war ein wenig hart für Josh... 😉 Very impressive how Louis can do this powerful coordination moves. 👌 .

[@Logic-d6n]

This is my gym thats crazy

[@nickkennedyx]

me personally, if i ever fall of doing a move that i am projecting. i just smile and laugh about it with my mates and keep trying it. also, over time projecting a hard climb, everyday, your brain makes nerves to get the move better i think. Need to research that more.

[@randomgaffer3328]

Excellent

[@ImJustEmi]

Maybe a dumb question but how do I know that a move is out of my league? At what point should I just move to other boulders?

[@zacharylaschober]

Find out if you can hold the opening position statically, the ending position statically, then generate between the opening position to the ending position (you do not need to make contact with the actual hold). After, if indoors or on a board, will construct an easier version of the move, somewhat as you've seen in the video, first by simply releasing the hold I am trying for and regrabbing, then make the ending position easier with a closer or bigger hold, and make the opening position with a closer or bigger hold, then modify the footholds. Outdoors, get a power spot or stack pads to dab through the movement a little. I like to stand in from the pads while making a difficult move and try and hold with a little more force. Usually, if a move is currently just too difficult, you will find you cannot ever generate enough to get between the holds. Sometimes, we get on holds which feel horrible, and by getting the body recruited we can make a little progress in moving a bit further a bit more precisely a bit more consistently, but then if there is a hard stop to this then likely could be too hard currently for your current abilities.

[@ImJustEmi]

@@zacharylaschober thank you so much for the in depth nice response sir

[@Hampshire87]

Louise would be a great kids TV presenter

[@seanurbanczyk4049]

what's the blue wrist thing that rundle was wearing?

[@davidhelman3045]

Louis, come to America so you can coach us please, k thanks!

[@chrisbmxbrandt9495]

Where’s the Boulder you showed in the thumbnail? :(

[@plastikmaiden]

The aim of climbing hard, for me, is to make what is hard now feel easy... eventually 😂

[@Nilaxification]

Bra uppvärmning!

[@craycrayselfsabotage]

❤ happyplace :3😊

[@captainshnockleyou3537]

What is that blue band that josh has on his wrist?

[@Majin_Tom_DragonBallTCG]

Need some videos with the homie Raj (guy in the background with a coat over him).

[@alexpdream677]

Felt like Josh could toe hook on the right to make that huge movement to pinch in the middle Also felt like legs were too much off the wall 😅 But, I mean, it always looks and feels different from the ground, and I am watchin from my laptop 😂

[@drummerjason]

This is fantastic. Well done, gents!

[@kennethduncan4643]

Hardest I climb is probably v3, v4 if my wrist wasn't shit.

[@stiloxz]

hey, cool Video

[@sleep1152]

Man i just started like 2 months ago never climbed before hitting a V6 and a couple V5s seeing you guys fly through this stuff hurts my soul :(

[@philipegoulet448]

Really appreciate the 60fps! I noticed instantly, what a treat! EDIT: The framerate really doesn`t look consistent through the video. It seems like you mixed 24/30fps footage with 60fps. I appreciate you still rendering at 60fps though!

[@TheAletes]

Waaaait Josh saying: "I am mainly a SPORT climber" ?? Whaaaaat

[@fragletemmer]

There must come a time where moving on is better than insisting on doing a move through. Struggle to find this. 2 sessions? 3? Like at some point you should probably find something else.

[@climbing1847]

Louis practices

[@mariuslakomczyk3662]

whats with the german @JoshRundle? greetings from Leipzig

[@samo270]

I can't get the frustrated tone and the cursing out of the monologue, so I shout positive encouragement to myself. Things like f**k yeah and that was great, but with an angry tone.. it seems to work well actually

[@maxdilcon5679]

Most coaches don’t even climb v9

[@kingkirisuto7225]

This guy is kinda douchy love louey

[@juicytin14]

Projecting hard was one of the things that improved my technique and overall climbing ability the most. I think I used to be in the mindset of 'hey i can't send this thing in 4-5 tries, im gonna give up and go to the next shiny boulder' and that was a huge detriment to me. It just meant I got stuck in the cycle of doing moves or climbs that felt easy for me, and I never really ventured out of my comfort zone. But when I started really pushing myself and trying to send those climbs at my limit, that was when I saw my greatest gains at least from a technique and skill perspective

[@chrisharris7466]

Hold on a sec what does josh mean saying he’s a V9 climber. Does he mean he projects v9 or can peel them off regularly. I have not seen him send over v5 indoor so not quite sure how to listen to the lies. Like what does it mean to say you are a climber or a climber who climbs v9

[@RimshotKiller]

The reality is that it means different things for different people. Some will say they are a Vx / Fy / whatever climber when that is the difficulty that they barely project on, some people will say the same when that's the difficulty that they usually finish comfortably and project higher than that. Who gives a toss, really?

[@chrisharris7466]

@@RimshotKiller you’re right who gives a toss.

[@ewansmascarenhas]

He sport climbed 8c outdoors

[@ewansmascarenhas]

He can probably do a v9

[@JHClimbs]

He said his hardest indoor problem is V9, as in he may have only done one…

[@Thunder.Legacy]

This is why we prefer Magnus, less speak more climb