I only ride on the street, but I still find this channel very useful and informative. I think we all struggle with corner entry speed. I have improved a lot, but it seems to be a neverending battle, especially on the street where you can't memorize every corner unless you ride the same road all the time. Over coming your natural reaction to fear and taking a good line is huge, now I working on body positioning and keeping my head and eye pointed in the right direction. Practice, practice, practice until it becomes habit.
@OnlyKaerius5 жыл бұрын
Unless I know the road intimately or can see the entire corner clearly I will always ride with wide margins on the road, usually entering slow, and then accelerating through. You shouldn't really ride to the limit on the street, as there's a much greater risk of traction reducing conditions, be they gravel, sand, oil slicks, wet leaves, or potholes. And never outride your view distance, if you're riding too fast to stop in the distance you can see, and an obstacle blocks the road, you're having an accident. Also keep in mind that decreasing radius corners exist. That said, there's plenty of roads where you can ride fast enough to thrill, without riding to the limits. A good rule of thumb is riding to within 70% of your ability, then when a problem appears you'll have room to adapt. I've had times when I was riding pretty hard, with margins, and something's come up, and I've made it through with only inches to spare, if I had been pushing my limits, I'd have been inches short, and hit a mountain wall, a curb, or a tree, or fallen down an embankment, or just lowsided.
@sirgalahad52085 жыл бұрын
@@OnlyKaerius all good advice here. After an 8 year break from riding and in my 40s now I'm riding with the same thinking. In 3300mi I've had close calls with deer, squirrels, a gopher and a turkey vulture. Cars pulled out in front of me, a cop started to pull out but stopped which scared me enough to over brake. I think most didn't even see me coming. Shitty roads here in south NY. 100% focus every ride.
@llerradish5 жыл бұрын
@@OnlyKaerius Believe me, I know the what your taking about, I have experienced everything thing you have mentioned and than some. You never be able to push the limits like you can on the track. But you can get good on the street, it's a combination skill, experience, balls and a little luck and it's damn fun. If it wasn't dangerous, I don't think I would enjoy it. The great thing about it is we are all free to ride our own ride. I know more than one rider that rides slow and as safe as they can and have still crashed and been hurt far more times than I have. Perhaps my day is coming, but until then I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it. I had a close call with a deer and a peacock and a half dozen twitty birds and the was just this evening. Lol but we was riding during the wrong time of the day 730 PM to 900 PM. I don't usually ride during that time of day.
@vincentbeijing69265 жыл бұрын
Dar Tice I think what kaerius was saying is that ‘balls and a little luck’ have nothing to do on public roads. Speed is a byproduct of your skills. Work on your skills, speed will increase naturally. Never ever rely on luck.
@DumbledoreMcCracken5 жыл бұрын
Look deep into the corner.
@72hourbob615 жыл бұрын
Never forget my (In to fast moment) The owner of the bike shop I was working in let me take his brand new Yamaha Venture Royale for the weekend. So I and a friend (he had a GL1200) went for a ride on some 2 lane back roads. At one point I thought it would be cool to see how fast this new v-4 pig was and that was fine until I creased the top of a small hill only to find a 90-degree L/H turn right in my face. I started grabbing all the brakes I could find and right off the bat shifted into panic mode, then something in my head started screaming at me to get off the brakes, stop looking at the fence and lean. Well, I made it as luck would have it. No more road racing pigs for me.
@joeshmoe79674 жыл бұрын
If it was the first generation Venture Royale ('80s) They can be ridden pretty sporty, if you understand the bike. The 1200 V4 was a pretty fast bike.
@Bioruss3 жыл бұрын
Skid mark in undies moment. lol
@performancebasedheatingair80065 жыл бұрын
Took a school that simply covered vision and markers. brake point, turn in, apex, exit. They said most of the time in a day you are blind. everytime you look from one object to the next you dont see what is in between. Simply looking at what im writing here and then up to the tabs I have open there is a moment of blindness were only blurry colors occur....Left that school and increased my lap time by 8 seconds in one day. I never look off track and I focus on my markers. Those simple tools will increase confidence and not overload the brain with data allowing me to concentrate on other things like lean angle and speed.....Which i have seen you covered in other videos. Appreciate your info...
@burnerjack015 жыл бұрын
Step1) Unless the entry speed is utterly ridiculous, keep in mind "the bike is capable, even if I'm not."
@lofiseeker17905 жыл бұрын
john hanrahan what is the pic lol
@burnerjack015 жыл бұрын
@@lofiseeker1790 What the Republicans do to the Democrats.
@stevenkelby21695 жыл бұрын
@@burnerjack01 Blowing them? That's weird.
@rickshawphilippines4 жыл бұрын
I've come to find out, every bike I owned was more capable than i
@spar83344 жыл бұрын
The bikes only as capable as the tires and mine bald
@BeingYourselfIsOriginal5 жыл бұрын
Hello from Greece! As a new rider and beginner at the track...i find your videos extremely helpfull! Thanks for your great videos and help! Can't wait for more! You got all the support!
@bobamericana30995 жыл бұрын
seeing through the turn and having confidence in your tire traction are what is key.
@Paladin10345 жыл бұрын
I've had this moment of fear a few times, but it's only materialized once on the road. I came in too hot on a tight downhill right hander, and I wasn't on the brakes enough. I realized it before I hit the apex, but I drifted over the line before I got my speed down enough. A car was in the other lane, luckily they were slowing for the tight corner so I had time to get out of the way. That was probably the most scared I've been on a bike so far. It's really calmed me down.
@jimbigboystoys40774 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have had such an experience. About eight years ago I came in to turn where I thought I was going to fast, I let off the gas almost completely, and it damn near killed me. I did ended up dumping the bike, but it was only at the very last second where I came to an almost complete stop. I was lucky that I didn’t wipe out going at the speed I was. But I was told by the more experienced rider I was riding with, who routinely takes corners like this one, much faster than I was going, that I had plenty of speed forgiveness to play with, and that I could’ve made that turn without any problems at all. He would know better than me. After all he’s been a sport bike rider for years. I had just made the transition from cruiser bikes. I’ve never ridden a motorcycle in this manner before. Pretty INTIMIDATING I’ll admit! But it is a lot of fun.
@patrickcallahan28855 жыл бұрын
With practice comes confidence! The more you are familiar with the track the more your can increase your speed and reduce your time. Even pro riders take several rounds of “free practice” to familiarize themselves with the course and make set up adjustments to their bikes, all in the name of increasing the comfort level of getting into and out of the turns, and reducing their lap times.....
@lanchanoinguyen29145 жыл бұрын
i remember once time i raided very fast and a car turn right in the corner.I was carrying a heavy guitar back my motocycle.The speed must have been 70km/h in the corner and i decided to pass the car and then i thought that i will crash to the border but no,i calmly lean the bike most i can when i see the border and people in there,it's so scary that i will crash and then i decide quickly to lean it or die.It works everytimes,but you should hold the handle tightly,the road condition and the tire quaility is also affect the safety.
@scooble5 жыл бұрын
To get over the 'rushed' feeling, I would practice by braking early and soft, then set my speed (adjust brakes, throttle) until I am comfortable with the speed I am about to enter the corner. Feel how the bike behaves. Get used to that speed, then work on braking later and harder bit by bit.
@ThaSideWeed4 жыл бұрын
I'd mention one more thing. Relaxed on the bars. If you tense up on the bars, while also trying to countersteer, you hinder the bike's ability to turn/keep its line.
@rempuial25303 жыл бұрын
Been riding for a few good years but I'm having this feeling quite a lot these days on the road with a few very slow speed crashes into ditches :-D . Your explanation of the vision seems to summarize the issue I'm facing. Should work more on it and concentrate on what I'm doing :-D Thanks!
@perchowski30215 жыл бұрын
Had this problem and was kind of stuck at a certain level for it seemed like a while! Really hard to break through that mental barrier of "I'm going too fast into this turn!" Just takes a while to get a feel for it is all, but great info on the breaking and where to look!
@jasonjackson56964 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid - loved the vision part. I subscribed 👍
@manofknowledge10005 жыл бұрын
Probably best to learn on smaller bikes if you panic from speed or tense up when the bike shakes or wheelies you should stay well away from the big bikes like innit you just become a statistic and give the experienced amongst us a bad name like
@wonderboyrox5 жыл бұрын
The real problem I have with adjusting my cornering speed properly in the city that I live in is it seems at least half of the intersections still have sand that never got cleaned up after our long winter. So, it's always a throw of the dice if I am going to be hitting gravel or sand in a turn, and often times don't know until it's too late. Meaning, I just end up taking every turn slow. Frustrating, but.. safe.
@bastrix695 жыл бұрын
Thats why I never ride in the city. I ride on lonely country roads. That doesnt mean you are guaranteed to get good grip on all corners but if I find sand or a wet patch im able to avoid it
@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB5 жыл бұрын
I made every mistake that you listed here, definitely still making those but I don't have my bike anymore so I can't practice
@mouth8845 жыл бұрын
"Don't panic, do not panic break/down shift, and keep your point of attention through the cuve. Literally do nothing your impulses tell you to and trust that physic work. I like to focus only on my breathing while riding woth speed. Be safe you guys and gals and for god sakes wear a full face helmet ya goons!
@tonyb97353 жыл бұрын
While this is all good stuff I came here hoping to learn a recovery technique in those instances when you really did go in too fast. I had a moment at Brands on a track day when I realised that I absolutely wasn't going to make Druids. It wasn't perception, I red-misted all the way round Paddock Hill Bend and down Hailwoods Hill, I remember exactly the words that went through me head ... "there are three of them ... I'm on a 1000cc.... I'm going to do them ALL ...." In fairness I doubt Rossi himself could have made it round at the speed I was going ....
@rapid133 жыл бұрын
I kind of wonder how successful Keith Code would have been in this era of KZbin experts.
@enjoyyourself74553 жыл бұрын
👍🏾 I'm still watching Keith's bible more than the rest of the videos combined.
@noobierider5 жыл бұрын
Insightful. More technical video please 😁 where can i get LAL tshirt?
@LifeatLean5 жыл бұрын
Coming soon, Noobie!
@Bikemad245 жыл бұрын
Do you do on track rider training?
@RJE19865 жыл бұрын
@Thgt Ggyh What game footage??
@LifeatLean5 жыл бұрын
I don't do "on request" coaching at this point, no.
@RJE19865 жыл бұрын
Life at Lean Hope you do one day mate, got a customer here 😎😎😎
@chevi29975 жыл бұрын
I always end up stopping in the the divider when the corner radius decreases in a unfamiliar road . How do you get over this fear of lowsiding when a blind turn arrives and u need to turn further in hilly areas ?
@bik3r2305 жыл бұрын
I am st rossi
@YordanHristooov4 жыл бұрын
I got through “oh shit it’s too fast” by looking at my hopes and dreams 😂
@tomford54163 жыл бұрын
in too fast ? ~ glances at the rev counter ... 12,000 RPM !
@crust_no_tuna4 жыл бұрын
How to fix “in too fast panic” *SLOW THE FUCK DOWN*
@tommynikon22833 жыл бұрын
I used to have the "in too quick" problem, but my wife divorced me and I no longer am afflicted.
@burnerjack013 жыл бұрын
Saw an old biker buddy from back i n the day. I said, "Hey Chuck, how ya been? You look good." He responded with, "Yeah, I just lost 200 lbs. of ugly fat...Just got divorced." Needless to say, we all laughed are asses off.
@ducatiscottiev23723 жыл бұрын
Hey me too So I bought a Ducati V2
@Hondeer5 жыл бұрын
Track riding is *highly* relevant to street riding. It's always better to have more skill for a situation than not enough. Tracking gives you this.
@couch94165 жыл бұрын
Same with special car traning courses. Can help you with grip loss or aqua planning
@brandoloudly94574 жыл бұрын
i honestly find that track style body positioning can give you a very nice buffer on the street. able to have a lot of fun without taking the bike anywhere near its traction limits
@sichere3 жыл бұрын
@@brandoloudly9457 Problem with street riding is that it's not on a track surface so traction is another major issue on top of the street furniture and other street users.
@worldhello12343 жыл бұрын
No, it isn't and using buzzwords like skill doesn't change it. You don't have oncoming traffic and idiotic cagers you have to avoid. Let alone slippery and broken tarmac.
@Hondeer3 жыл бұрын
@@worldhello1234 LMAO. K kid.
@perarnoldi54314 жыл бұрын
Trailbreaking is also a good thing to master - it makes you faster and - more important - it gives you a sense of control and security
@mousecat93983 жыл бұрын
so closing your eyes and crying isnt an option Because Corners dont care about your feelings...
@diavolorosso693 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's not an option for you but definitely is for me! :)
@mhordijk08713 жыл бұрын
@@diavolorosso69 And that's why you 'had to lay him down'.
@weldmachine3 жыл бұрын
NO you only Cry after you crash. When you look back at your bike laying on it's side, thinking to yourself i hope it's not to bad, LOL.
@flyingdutchy015 жыл бұрын
My last trackday whilst on the 'warmup lap' my instructor rode way faster than I was used to. I was still thinking about my 'cold' tires and just couldn't keep up until I froze and missed my breaking point. Now I lost my group and I was thinking how my session was over. Then something snapped and I decided to try to catch up to my instructor again. Within a lap and half I caught him and suddenly I had so much confidence I went from being the slowest rider in the group to being one of the fastest.
@HEYITSMARKOO4 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I just crashed 1h ago into a corner because of the panic. I just couldn't think for 10 seconds what to do. I stiffed up in stead of relaxing my body and lean in to the corner. Many thanks for that video. It helps for the future
@ianmurphy763 жыл бұрын
I have found many riders have their suspension so far out of whack it is almost dangerous. The rebound damping is usually set like a catapult and so many have no idea how to set it. I would like to see suspension setups done as part of the UK bike test.
@CarloPentel5 жыл бұрын
Life at Lean im looking forward to the Lean barrier video you are gonna make. I think that is my barrier in this segment. Cheers for the great content!🍻
@luchse5 жыл бұрын
Mine too!
@Paladin10345 жыл бұрын
It's mine, as well. I know I'm not nearly as capable as the bike is. I know I can lean more. I just don't want to lay it down
@thelastparadiseonearth41885 жыл бұрын
The first enligtening step to overcome this problem, for me was what they call in CSS "No brakes/No body position/Gas only" drill. By not overloading my mind with how much i use the break, i forced myselft to choose better lines/speed and push my boundaries generaly. Secondly, to overcome (up to a point) the fear of leaning the bike, i went to an empty parking lot and rode about 1000 cirles until i could scrape a knee for a ful circle both directions with steady throttle and good body position (bad body position = almost impossible to knee down) Lastly, to steer faster, i picked up a turning point (eg a tree, a crack in the pavement etc), then an apex point(if a corner was blind, an imaginary one) and connected them with an imaginary line. That should tell me HOW much steering input i had to use. It was a tricky one to perform but now i do it in every corner, even on unkown roads. Lots of more things to work on, but basically that's what nailed it for me.
@100inthewind5 жыл бұрын
This was a good video. This guy knew what he was talking about. 90% of videos about how to ride give the worst advice!
@StarAZ5 жыл бұрын
I definitely am struggling against the lean angle barrier. I had the similar problem driving until I found an instructor driving the same car as mine and I got a ride along. It's too bad we can't do that on motorcycles.
@DeltaInsanity5 жыл бұрын
You can't quite have a ride along, but you can find a more experienced rider with the same bike as you, and follow behind him to learn how he handles the bike, so you can see where you can improve yourself.
@StarAZ5 жыл бұрын
DeltaInsanity I did. And I got dusted pretty soon 😆 Ride along helped me because my butt got to feel the g force without me worrying about anything. If only tandem bike were a thing 😜
@ienupar20035 жыл бұрын
@@DeltaInsanity From my experience, riding for the past 8 years on track now - this is a yes & no. The other rider needs to make sure that they uplift your pace by just a very small percentage, otherwise, your struggle to keep up is pushing you into all sorts of mistakes. Following & trying to copy someone else takes some focus away from your own technique because your visual cursor is usually locked onto the other rider - instead of far ahead. Do we use this technique to help us break barriers? Yes. But in a controlled setup - in which we plan this ahead, in the paddock.
@Coyote110075 жыл бұрын
i also think fatigue always plays a bigger role than we give it credit for... i know the more tired/hungover i am, the closer i look to the bike
@jameshastie59963 жыл бұрын
I thought this was gonna help me with my tinder dates, I was wrong
@zbyh19805 жыл бұрын
My name is Jorge Lorenzo and I race in MotoGP. Thank you for sharing this technique I will be trying it during my next race in Catalunya.
@anonymousanonymous99915 жыл бұрын
@Sunyata That was cold...
@anonymousanonymous99915 жыл бұрын
@Sunyata Ah dam cool
@bastrix695 жыл бұрын
Well look like it didnt go too well for you at Catalunya uh?
@paulhughmcgiillivray99474 жыл бұрын
Asshole
@GPM1164 жыл бұрын
The few times I overspent my personal comfort envelope I drifted to an oncoming lane, it's a lonely road thank God...not good even more panic..I forced my lean angle, uncomfortably, but the tyres held hmmm more trust now, I am really good at rolling off throttle and feathering the brake just enough ...I must keep the panic grip off the bars and focus where I want the bike to go. It will go there, even at uncomfortable entry overspend. It helped me to go faster. My track is only open 2 times monthly as we share with all motorsports. So I have to hit my empty canyon runs weekdays and find common corners in the canyon I would find on track. I still feel like I'm in a TT roadrace though, turns in my canyon need to be tighter. I have 15000 miles on my CBR all in practice mode ..no sightseeing or dawdling rides. Just execution and focus. I get lost on what to be practicing or if I'm even practicing correctly. My 2.2 13 turn track has a 1:29 record lap I can run sloppy 1:55s. I am 60 and in good condition. 6' 2" , 185 pounds. Much to learn.
@ThaSideWeed4 жыл бұрын
I mean, I can practice some aspects on the road, but others are simply illogical to do to the degree I practice on the track. If I try to practice track pace on the street, I'm limited by visibility waaaay sooner than by anything else. So I rarely ever try. No point in taking a 6 month forced leave cause I ran into a ditch. I have much to learn, weirdly, lean angle barriers I don't really have. No problem in getting up close and personal with the asphalt. I'd focus on basics like peg position, body position, staying relaxed on the bars, then optimising lines (the idea is to only lean the bike as much as you need to, decreasing your risk in all situations, track or street). The point of optimal lines is that you travel the absolute shortest path from one point to the other, thus decreasing lap times by itself. Combined with the speed at which you travel from a to b, = your lap time basically. This changes in street use, where your ideal line is the safest for your situation = changes all the time. Generally, the aspects you should focus on last, are the more complex, like braking hard into corners, carrying as much speed as you can etc. I'd advise you to work on the simpler aspects individually, taking it slow, and after feeling comfy and consistent with what you're working on, incorporate it while moving on to the next thing you want to learn. If bored, tired, etc, switch it up to something easier. Also, after a certain point, practicing means some risk of falling off. So at 60...I wouldn't push super hard in any situation :) Enjoy.
@michaelcacioppo31125 жыл бұрын
I freaking love your videos...it’s like you’re in my head. You talk about a lot of stuff that I’m relatively insecure about....thank you so much!!
@jtsharps5 жыл бұрын
I hear you all the way Michael. I swear this guy is watching me and making these videos just for me! Great stuff!!
@NickMasseyRideon3 жыл бұрын
3:30 for this who are not that good at interpretation, like me,he means the more you look ahead the slower things seem to your brain, the closer you are looking down the faster things are and more prone to panic
@berzerkwolfgangson52095 жыл бұрын
I have to say the no brakes exercise in combination with knowing how big my chicken strips are was the best way for me to break through these barriers. It's hard to get into at first but in spots where you'll feel like breaking, try pushing the handle bar instead. What I've found is that I would break on corners that never needed breaking and people that I ride with are always breaking where they don't need it. (I do a lot of open/back road street riding)
@kristianrantanen50982 жыл бұрын
Going to try no brakes exercise on next weeks trackday :)
@stephenchristian57393 жыл бұрын
in too fast "feeling" has kept me alive in the canyons!
@Miata8225 жыл бұрын
I still choke on that feeling with no notice. Yes, I think vision is a big part of that. I'll work on that tomorrow :)
@nyleen5 жыл бұрын
oooh. Something I can use this Sunday. Thanks Dan!
@vernonwilliams94435 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@nyleen5 жыл бұрын
@@vernonwilliams9443 Are you going to a track day this Sunday? If so, where? :D
@vernonwilliams94435 жыл бұрын
@@nyleen MMRT track at India 😁
@mhilde77445 жыл бұрын
👍brilliant point on vision!...BRILLIANT!
@motogroover27895 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaahhhhh Yes! This feeling can be summed up as the "Oh Shit! Oh No!" moment. All bikers have experienced the "Oh Shit! Oh No" moment when riding.
@thorvelasco14675 жыл бұрын
Keith Code: Counter-steering always works, on any bike, in any corner. Thank you for the upload.
@decriptd Жыл бұрын
i just brake as if I’m in a moto gp race and trust the grip in my tires and then when in doubt, lean it out
@jamesschower327 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Well I used to ride at a much faster pace trying to break my lean angle barrier and I did, however, when I pushed the levels of my bike and tires, I began crashing. I crashed alot and now I'm guns shy taking it slow all over again.
@888jackflash3 жыл бұрын
Trackday classroom in New Hampshire, years ago: the instructor starts talking about "in too fast", and you could see the frustration building. "T-t-t-turn.. the...Bike. Just ... TURN.. the F*****ING BIKE!!!"
@ZX6R_SQUID4 жыл бұрын
Hit a corner to fast today on my CBR backroads New Zealand went off the road and slid into a tree. bike went off to the side. Picked it up quick safety check and the bike was ok to ride home. 1 and a half hour ride home after that with 2 fractured ribs. Lesson learned. my problem is it was a new corner to me and it was hard to judge entry speed. Being a learner doesn't help but lesson learned. Can't wait to get my bike fixed and ride again. My poor baby.
@mkproductions36512 жыл бұрын
yes, got my first ever bike not many days ago. done a total of 400 +km of lifetime bike riding experience. went to hills and got confident taking curves fast and ran into a 180 degree turn and off the bike across the divider.
@sarahdell40425 жыл бұрын
Great advise. Literally every point made here were mistakes I made early on
@weldmachine3 жыл бұрын
Generally when riders come in to a corner to hot ? They choose to go straight and off the corner completely. Not sure why we choose to take this course of action as it will result in a crash anyway. Sometimes IF you are coming in to fast best just try and take the corner rather than commit suicide and go straight off the corner. IF you try and take the corner and are successful then you not only, Not crash but have learnt something about how to take a corner that might have been way above your ability. IF you crash, you most light would have crashed anyway by going straight. Hope that makes sense ?? Of course i am talking about riding on a road bike not on track where you have some run off area If you decide to go straight, I only write this as i have seen a few riders chose to go straight off a corner rather than commit to the corner. Basically it comes down to experience. The More you ride the better you will become.
@DizGuys Жыл бұрын
Wow...looks like I've been breaking all wrong. Hard to light makes much more sense when I think about it. Then, it's just a case of judging when to come off the brakes to allow sufficient speed for the corner.
@HelloJamesBond4 жыл бұрын
The comment about breaking harder first instead of when you’re on the corner is spot on. I’m an average rider but I’m v good at braking hard, anticipating the corner, breaking hard when you still have 100-50m and gradually easing as you approach the apex is a brilliant and crucial skill to master and could save your life! Thanks man
@TheRetroLab3 жыл бұрын
But what if you have actually gone into the corner too fast? How do you sort it out?
@buddhastaxi6663 жыл бұрын
I found engine braking has saved me. Irrelevant for a track as instead of a 600 i ride a 1450 Zx14r on the road. But that motor pulls me up. After overshooting a tight corner on a 600 triumph i realised i should have leaned more and trust the tyres and frame and ignore the scraping. Its done to visual perception and disorientation. After all on the same 600 Triumph TT bike you could ride straight at over 160imh in a downpour on lousy backroad surfaces and thebike had no issues. The tech is amazingly well refined.
@mhordijk08713 жыл бұрын
I had a close call, once. Me and my buddies were riding along the highway. I thought we were going for the next exit, but they decided to take an exit earlier. By that time I was trapped behind a car. To make it, I had to accelerate, pass in front of the car and try to make it onto the exit lane in time. Well, I made it, just before the tip of the gore. But now I was going 140 kph and there was a corner starting in a few meters. So, I slammed on the brakes, squeezed them for all I was worth and released them to go into the corner. By that time I was still going 100 kph. About 20 kph too fast for my liking. I threw my bike into a mean lean and held on for dear life, giving just enough throttle to keep a little pressure on the rear tire, while braking ever so slightly to get the speed down. I made it, but I'm pretty sure I touched the outer markings. The bike hadn't even flinched. Thank heaven for the riding education we must go through to get our license, here in the Netherlands.
@ryanmalone26812 жыл бұрын
I do t understand the lean angle barrier. With the right body positioning, assuming you have the right setup, tires, lack of road, etc. you know you can get the knee down because you see it all the time. So all you need to do is countersteer until you’re leaned over where you can gauge your lean using your knee and then fine tune from there. Who cares if you’re comfortable or not. Just go in and get the knee down because you know the bike is capable, regardless how you feel. It only takes you pushing yourself past the fear barrier once. You ride a motorcycle, how can you not force yourself to do something that you’re afraid of once? I can’t understand this mentality. Cornering (including braking to and accelerating out of turns) is a never-ending continuous improvement process. Just don’t be a bitch just once and you’re past it. Simples.
@williamjeffreys29804 жыл бұрын
Assuming you're not on a nice track with plenty of run-off, the only option you have is to buckle down and take the turn. You'll either find out you can take the turn that fast after all, or you're going to crash. If you race, this will happen periodically. If you ride back roads, it will happen from time to time. If you don't commit to the turn and give it your best shot, you're going to crash anyway, so you might as well make your best effort and see what happens. Obviously if you're on a nice track with plenty of room, you can always straighten up and run off the track. Not always possible.
@tank520865 жыл бұрын
Been riding 12 years and thought of myself as a capable rider. Had a wreck last year on a very technical road and haven’t been able to mentally recover yet.
@unclesamthejew87405 жыл бұрын
I crashed a car into a tree this Christmas. After the incident, cars, which were my passion, scared me. Not only when driving one myself, but driving with others on the wheel and as a pedestrian in traffic as well. Im better now, didnt push the car hard since but at least im back to actually enjoying what I like, I hope you do too
@tank520865 жыл бұрын
Yea still riding but not at the level I was.
@larrywatkins9925 жыл бұрын
Riding is a lot like sailing. They both have a "pucker factor", whether it's how much heel going upwind, or how much lean into the corner, where your A-hole clenches shut is the pucker factor. Experience is the only cure for it.
@davemurphy20203 жыл бұрын
What is all this about? Riding beyond your capability. The actor is good at reading a script, but, when you push too far it's only luck that keeps you alive. Nothing here keeps you safe.
@realMaverickBuckley4 жыл бұрын
I remember a week after I passed my test. Id got a 2004 ZX636R . My ex gf's dad found out and asked me if I wanted to go on a ride out in the Fen countryside. We all road 7 or 8 miles out into the fens and after running down a half mile straight we are to what looked like a 120 degree ish corner. But as I git close I realised it was almost a 90 degree corner. 100% thoughti was gonna bin it and end up in the canal. I remembered my instructors words of 'if youre ever going into a corner too fast just brake gradually another 15-20% and just hang on the inside. Definately saved my stupid arse that day but I wish there had been some vids like this back then. The biggest thing I learnt was go at 50% until you've ridden a corner at least once.
@archiewilson49433 жыл бұрын
Squaring off as many corners as you can will make this much more often than not just a crap corner than an off track experience. I know this sounds ridiculous but you can also try squinting your eyes. If you just don't allow them to go full panic wide open you can often manage to handle the situation. Probably has to do with sensory overload, whatever, it works.
@CrypticApathy3 жыл бұрын
Its pretty simple. What you can do and what the bike can do are 2 different things. The bike isnt lacking, you are. When shit hits the fan trust the bike and the rubber. It can do it, even if you really cant. Just hope you can controle the bike when it decides to do it. The other option is going with in you in control. Your likly to crash. YOLO
@myz06rocks2 жыл бұрын
oddly enough, i never have had any fear of lean angles or getting on the throttle (instructor feedback, not my inflated sense of self LOL). But... after low siding a couple years back I developed a sense of "in too fast" and i've been working to get rid of it ever since.
@njohnson33313 жыл бұрын
I can't afford to do a track day, and the track is quite far away from where I live. I've had this feeling in canyons. Lately I've resolved to 1 slow run of a canyon, even if I know it well, before I go a bit quicker. That way I seen any new hazards, and I relax and get a feel for the bike and other conditions.
@Mrmarginofsafety11 ай бұрын
Sooner or later at the track you will go down as you try to improve your skills. If you care so much about the bike wrecking and the $$ consequences it will hold you back. Get a track bike for the track.
@StonebutcherGems3 жыл бұрын
Looking far enough ahead is also super important when passing on winding roads, don’t be so focused on the vehicle you want to pass that you miss both the curve warning sign and the curve you could not see because the vehicle blocked your line of sight. In the US, you can’t always count on local jurisdictions to use double yellow lines for no passing zones, In Pima County AZ it’s just a relatively small easy to miss no passing zone sign and the same yellow dash centerline that in most jurisdictions means passing is allowed. The county did it to save money on striping maintenance, and it could end up costing you your life.
@brandoloudly94574 жыл бұрын
sometimes i'll give myself the feeling on purpose. i think a lot of riding comes down to edging your comfort zone further and further. just as you mentioned, even when i feel this, im able to make these turns easily, not at max lean, not with max brake pressure. so much of riding is mental, which i guess makes sense since it is pretty deadly if you make a mistake at the wrong time. very important to understand and process these feelings and see how they line up with what the bike can do piloted by you. i dont know if courage is the right word, but skilled riding takes something like that just to get there
@mikedoc545 жыл бұрын
Great review for cornering. Here's a couple of extras, trust your tires, if you have prepared a chose the proper tire you are partway there. Second trust a ability of your bike. These two areas will help build your confidence. Having bit the dust a few times, keep practicing!!
@RevoltingRudi4 жыл бұрын
well in a local crit race on the road bike i was hitting a fast left corner and realizing midway i might not make the exit. so i had a few options: -do nothing -> high chance of crash -braking -> most definitely crash -lean even more -> maybe crash i keept calm, choosed last. i knew my tires and the bike could handle way more than my skill and i made it.
@durrmoment2913 жыл бұрын
Beginners should always buy a bike with a huge lean angle. If your bike scrubs the foot pegs when you lean just a little, when you go into a turn too fast, you wont be ABLE to lean any further to make the turn.
@EnvyTheRealest3 жыл бұрын
This just happened to me crazy how this video came up on my feed. I did not get the upset stomach feeling, maybe because I knew I had it in control. Came to the corner not fast but because a car just entered the corner as I was about to lean, I just straighten up a little, release the throttle and give little pressure on the front brake. I reached as far as the side line, if I was going fast which I normally do on that corner, it would not have ended pretty
@mrnice29944 жыл бұрын
I think one good way to break the lean angle barrier is practice circles at low speed in parking lots, in this scenario you can tighten up the circle still at low speed but leaning the bike very low. Practice slow and then practice fast. Not my idea btw I saw it at MotoJitsu which is an other good Chanel like this one.
@enjoyyourself74553 жыл бұрын
Just know your limits and learn to ride below them before you bite off more than you can chew. You don't need be riding at 100% of you limit all the time to have fun
@62Sketch2 жыл бұрын
you make it sound like "In too fast" is only a feeling... as if it's not possible to to actually go in too fast. So say you got all the great feelings you can have and you realize you are truly too fast. Then what?
@tammyforbes21014 жыл бұрын
I don’t panic I just use the back break to make the bike turn and slow up at the same time! Panicking and slamming the breaks is the worse thing you can do! Just break then take break and lean her down she will make it!
@mirror16753 жыл бұрын
Lean and lean some more, stay off the brakes, lose the front and low-side if you've really gone in too fast for your bike - and not just your confidence.
@JazzRadioFfm3 жыл бұрын
with good vision you can learn how to utilize the strip of forest surrounding the street, eliminating the feeling of "in too fast" almost entirely. beware of bees.
@brandoloudly94574 жыл бұрын
and keep it up. your channel should have at least 10x the number of subs and will one day soon
@adammoorby994 жыл бұрын
I use this channel to improve my street riding 😉
@gixxerblade Жыл бұрын
Always turn it in even if you’re too hot. Also more throttle. It may not be the correct solution but it’ll end all the suspense.
@V.D.225 жыл бұрын
The first and the most common reaction when you enter too fast in a corner, is tightening the grip on the handlebars. This is a mistake that increases your chances to run wide or crash, but can eliminated through training.
@jstn99145 жыл бұрын
Something I always tell myself (and new riders) is that you hold the bike with your legs, not your hands.
@BartoszBanachewicz5 жыл бұрын
I recently noticed that I've been doing that, and thinking about not falling on the bars when braking and initiating the turn was a huge change. This is amplified by the fact that the braking forces push you forward, so pressing the bars ia a natural reaction. It severly limits the ability to steer the bike correctly, though, and as such creates a perception that e.g. tightening the turn is much harder than it really is. Once you move the weight off the bars and to your knees, suddenly the hands can focus just on driving, and on most bikes it will be minuscule effort to change directions mid-turn by then, making you way more confident when the speeds rise.
@V.D.225 жыл бұрын
@@BartoszBanachewicz stiffening your hands and tightening the grip on the handlebars also makes the suspension work with more difficulty, further increasing the chances of crashing. Also, your head bounces more...which is not ideal.
@HowardHenderson5 жыл бұрын
V. D. I prefer constant head bounce actually
@bocolis885 жыл бұрын
Excellent video for once again! One more factor I have found out is not having the correct lines. Often this leaves you with less space on corner exit and causes panic.
@quinnfable26945 жыл бұрын
I tell all my beginner / intermediate rider friends who haven't ridden track yet, to do so ASAP. The visual skills will be the #1 improvement and make the rider feel much more capable and confident. 99% of the time its the rider, not the bike, that needs to break it's limitations. Great video man!
@folerx5 жыл бұрын
Yes, 95% dont know where to look at.
@Scott-ri2ek4 жыл бұрын
Those Biden ads are awesome I think they want Trump to win
@TheRandomBikers5 жыл бұрын
My main cause of this is vision. I only ride on the road and I use a very dark tinted gold visor. I am constantly looking at the road directly in front of me for gravel/potholes. But whenever I get this feeling I just think if my pegs aren't scraping I can lean more. I'd rather low side than go wide in to oncoming.
@folerx5 жыл бұрын
For me two problems: 1. Lean angle barrier. I think that I will falling off bike or that both me and bike will be pushed to ground under gravity. Source for this fear is maybe poor body position because I dont feel bike support. Knee and elbow need to be in contact with tank all the time. 2. "To fast" feeling and I slow in the middle of the corner. Uff, bad...Occasionally. I think that speed is to big for that corner and bike will drift sideways. I brake in corner. Speed is well bellow tire limit but I think that tires cant handle this speed. Simply, I need to go track. Cant progress on street and alone without supervisor.
@sarag11583 жыл бұрын
They taught look more, lean more at MSF.
@blathetube15973 жыл бұрын
I find not being afraid to die helps.......
@peterkoning215 жыл бұрын
My best cornering has been done when i 'come' in too fast...road & track...but that is when I have taken my best corners ~!!! But that is akin to 'pushing the barriers' and you will eventually crash, as Ihave BUT you HAVE to push the boundries !! I still feel when you go in too fast...you are FORCED to "take" the corner....oooh the satisfaction !!!!!
@matiasdun65993 жыл бұрын
I've had a few "In too fast" moments on the street when I was driving like a hooligan (I don't recommend this type of driving) One time I sended the bike (a dual sport) on a paved corner. Entering on it I doubted if I was going to make it... The only thing that I made was trying not to panic, there wasn't place to going wide and brake. I just give balanced throttle for loading both tyres equally and give lean angle as far as the bike could keep. Lean angle is generally much higher than you think if you don't upset the bike and let it do the work.
@Jonas-ct6yv4 жыл бұрын
I had the feeling once, crashed it. Repaired it, now i know where the limit is. EXACTLY where. But only some battlescars and scratches on the bike later... Also now my friends say I am a better rider now, i think cuz now the fear of crash is kinda gone.