How to remove polish on soft sensitive paints without marring

[@patrickgagnon9662]

Should you not ring the cloth out into a different bucket to avoid polluting the wash /

[@ObsidianDetailing]

You certainly could! Absolutely. But you know what comes next lol, "if you use 2 buckets, why not 3, with grit guards". And if 3 why not 4! Detailing is one of those types of activities. My way has always been to see a problem and look for simple, quick, cheap solutions that overcome them. I wanted a way to better mobilise broken down residue off the panel, and leave less behind, and for me 1 bucket of solution has transformed my work. For what it's worth I replace it after each stage of polishing so may use 2 or even 3 clean solutions. But if someone wanted to use 2 or more buckets I would tip my hat to them for sure, not judge them

[@patrickgagnon9662]

what comes next ...don't be silly , wringing out a dirty rag into clean water is the question , a simple question and you make it into what comes next ....what comes next is you saying sorry for a stupid answer that should have read ..yes .@@ObsidianDetailing

[@ObsidianDetailing]

@patrickgagnon9662 you have completely misunderstood the tone of my comment and I think taken it personally. It was more a light hearted remark about detailing and detailers in general. And I mistook your statement of fact as a question. No, I "shouldn't" ring it into a different bucket, unless I want to, then yes I absolutely should. YOU should use as many buckets as you think will give you the best results for your use case, but I do highly recommend you use at least one, that way you are still cleaning to an infinitely better level than non at all which is the common way to do it and how the vast majority of detailers still do it.

[@patrickgagnon9662]

I may have taken that wrong ...sorry . But having two buckets is the way and not to mention that to us newbies is not right , if you can't see that , and tell us this simple fact of the matter ...two buckets is the way ....full stop !@@ObsidianDetailing

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Again, you are free to do what you feel is required. I have no idea your experience level, or how many cars you have polished and or coated, nor do I know your processes and products, but before you make an assumption based off of limited knowledge I really do recommend you give this a try next time you do, and see just how much better it is than no solution at all. And then try it with 2 buckets and experience how it makes no difference to the effectiveness of the job. The mechanism here is to simply use the solution to clean out the cloth rather than to let it collect in the fibres, each time you ring it out it comes out cleaner if you hadn't done it, and the damp cloth mobilises the broken down residue far far better than a dry cloth. But again I am a big believer in people doing what they feel is best for them! So even if you try a single bucket, then 2, and 2 makes you feel more comfortable I have achieved my goal of people trying new things and testing things for themselves. I understand that what you are saying makes sense to you, believe me I do, and I have of course tried it as it's a logical experiment. But this is my method based on being hands on with hundreds of cars, and assessing the results I get. 2 or more buckets has genuinely made no advancements for me in terms of residue control, panel cleanliness, filler removal or coating adhesion so 1 bucket is my method and the method I still stand by personally. As long as others will at least play with, and adjust it as a starting point, I am more than happy

[@iancollins2325]

Another cracking informative video, hopefully you'll get more subscribers from these types of videos. Enjoyed the new introduction as well, looks very professional.

[@cedricmiller4370]

Thanks for explaining in detail in this video by actually demonstrating because haze can be very difficult to remove from paint

[@ObsidianDetailing]

More than welcome, glad it was helpful

[@Fyane004]

He estado usando esta técnica por más de un año, gracias a este video. Y también una técnica para limpiar los pads, (algo que ideé en función de esto mismo). Muy agradecido por compartir conocimiento. Saludos desde Chile.

[@ObsidianDetailing]

I'm glad it was helpful and has helped. Makes me feel good

[@paulanderson4764]

Brilliant! Great idea for senssitive paints. Quality, clean towels and a rinseless wash. How about a clear water rinse bucket before dropping the used cloth back in the rinseless solution. I'm just thinking of ridding thr polish residue before another pass on the next panel. Love your videos, mate! Keep 'em coming.

[@ObsidianDetailing]

So I tried clean water in a secondary bucket and it doesn't really clean the cloths as well as I hoped. So I then did it with another bucket of rinseless, which obviously worked great, but is no more economical. So I settled on changing the bucket after each stage of polishing. You can do it for sure, I'm not sure the gains are worth it, but if you want the absolute BEST way to clean as you go, 2 buckets, both rinseless, is the way imo

[@paulanderson4764]

@@ObsidianDetailing thank you for your perspective on that idea. I greatly respect your experience and opinion.

[@ObsidianDetailing]

And I appreciate when people have ideas and don't just go with mainstream so you are very welcome. It's refreshing when people have ideas and execute/discuss with others. That's all I really want out of this channel lol

[@adblf]

Great summary.. I'm a complete convert to this method now (with Feynlab PR).. . Have a look at the Rag company pluffle towels for the final wipe. I've been playing around with towels and because of their microfibre waffle weave mix these are on a different level for absorbing liquids, like rinseless wash. They're not too plush, meaning there is 0 drag and the experience is far improved over the 350 GSM cloths which I agree are perfect for having in the bucket for the wet wipe.

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Will for sure get some ordered to test 🙂

[@adblf]

@@ObsidianDetailing you tried the Pluffles yet Matt?

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Not yet dude. Looking forward to though

[@jayroberts4900]

Top video mate. I'm in a detailing page on Facebook. Just got a Black Saphire black metallic BMW. Put SO many hours in. A proper multistage job. Got to the refining process (Yellow to White) Rupes pad and starting getting this terrible marring affect? Looked like when a spray wax is sprayed and not been buffed properly.. I thought it was further scratching, So went back to a cut and it went worse and worse. Was going round and round. Literally all it was the use of shit cloths and heavy scrubbing causing bad cloth marring. 500gsm cloth and a refing pad and polish, rotating cloths.. came right out!!

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Sometimes it really is the small things. Plus I think after a LOT of polishing paint starts to get trickier and those small things become even more important. Haven't looked back since using this method with nice cloths, cheap, quick and super effective. Cheaper than giving to polish the car again that's for sure lol! Glad it helped

[@jayroberts4900]

@@ObsidianDetailing Definitely bud. When you use this method the car paint is slight damp isn't it? So when you take your polisher back to the paint does it affect the pad being slightly damp? Do you also use an IPA in between? Ta bud

[@ObsidianDetailing]

no, as per the video you use another plus cloth to buff up the residue. Do this after each polishing set and stage, then panel wipe if coating. Cleanest panel you have had lol

[@headphones1861]

Makes so much sense I wonder why it's not common knowledge. Hopefully with this video it will be one day. I'm certainly going to be sharing this link👍

[@ObsidianDetailing]

I know a few who use it daily also. It's not new passé, I think we in the UK are just untrusting of a lot of stuff, rinseless being one of them. But it's getting more popular and accepted I feel

[@JakeyDill]

I recon it’s the MF suppliers, towels clogging up more means they can sell more towels. With this method, you can wipe down a whole car with 2-3 cloths.

[@ObsidianDetailing]

It's a towel conspiracy

[@orthodox1717]

Great video! Do any other rinseless work as well as feynlab?

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Yes any will do, but I feel feynlab cleans the best of all I have tested, but really any will do more than non at all

[@vojtechelias4477]

Thanks for the knowledge:) What if I still have a second step of polishing to do after that- can I start the second step right away after applying and drying the ONR? Or should I wipe the panel and degrease it before starting the second step? Thanks!

[@ObsidianDetailing]

No go straight to the next set. If using onr the "polymers" are very weak, barely there in fact and will be removed immediately If using feynlab it's even cleaner still, but both can be followed up immediately

[@vojtechelias4477]

@@ObsidianDetailing Thank you.

[@dustin3700]

The other issue is if the clear is vary soft then even applying protection especially a coating with wipe off is a nightmare.

[@robbienyc3102]

I’m late to your video ...awesome information ...I almost fell off my chair..”Can you say strokes?”....😂😂...hilarious..Becareful with the word moist also....

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Moist is one of those words that divides people hey 🤣

[@מדינט]

Interesting, never thought about take of polish residue with ONR.

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Try feynlab pure rinseless also, both work, feynlab has far superior cleaning power

[@imprezaworks]

Great video. What better quality cloths would you recommend?

[@ObsidianDetailing]

The in2detailing Korean edgeless cloths are perfect. www.in2detailing.co.uk/products/16-x-16-super-plush-470gsm-orange-microfibre-edgeless-korean-car-detailing-cloth

[@imprezaworks]

@@ObsidianDetailing See if there is any black friday deals about 👍👍

[@dillinja187]

Thanks for this content I'll give this method a go. It's on a 2020 Rav4 black edition with deep reds,greens and yellows in metallic which is a pig to get clear and bright.

[@wirraldetailing4598]

Great video mate, loving your content and always looking to learn and adapt my ways. One question though, how are you prepping the paint for coatings after this method? As in your still going to go over the panels again with your chosen IPA etc? You don't just coat after this I mean? I've always used Carpro Eraser with Rag Company Edgeless Terry towels

[@ObsidianDetailing]

100% yes, I still use a proper panel wipe (spies hecker 7010). Eraser would be more than enough if using this method.

[@wirraldetailing4598]

@@ObsidianDetailing What are your thoughts on normal panel wipe not breaking down polishing oils etc and dedicated sprays like Eraser and Gyeon Prep etc are better suited?

[@ObsidianDetailing]

My experience is the opposite, proper panel wipe work way better. Ipa, sure, i can see issues with effectiveness AND lubrication. Actual panel wipes, no With that said if you have removed the overwhelming majority of oils etc then you shouldn't need to rely on the product it just becomes security

[@wirraldetailing4598]

@@ObsidianDetailing That's good to hear, I've always felt a surface is 'Cleaner' after panel wipe. I'll grab some 7010 and experiment a bit 👍

[@ΓΙΩΡΓΟΣΔΙΑΜΑΝΤΗΣ-ι1σ]

Hello can I use onr to remove polish residue and after go straight to ceramic without ipa?

[@ObsidianDetailing]

I would always follow with a wipedown product of some description, especially after onr. There are mild polymers that you really want to fully remove

[@GoofylookinHippy]

Great video! I will try this asap!

[@ObsidianDetailing]

It was a game changer when I started doing it

[@stuartstaples5859]

Love the new intro 👌

[@vincentmiano342]

high IQ detailing right here! thank you bro for this video!

[@vincentmiano342]

after you wipe down everything with rinseless wash do you have to do IPA wipedown before applying ceramic coating?

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Definitely advise it yes. To be very sure it's clean. But there will be much less work for it to do if you follow the rinseless method

[@ROMAN-oy5ju]

My microfiber towels ruined my polish. Pro tips right here!

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Yep, very very common, this changed my game

[@mr.spotdetailingadelaide4518]

Pure and 7010. Yup you know what's up mate! Respect! :)

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Appreciate that buddy, I do

[@tedwhitehall2540]

another great tip

[@daniellanglois4378]

No need of ipa wipe after that ?

[@ObsidianDetailing]

Yes, I always recommend if ceramic coating, hopefully this video explains that part better kzbin.info/www/bejne/moGVlJ2wpq96oNU

[@BlutoandCo]

Dont let the coffee go cold!

[@fiqaaljafri5887]

Smart