How To Replace PTO DRIVE BELT - Toro TimeMaster 30" Lawn Mower

UPDATE: like several people mentioned in the comments, the cheaper version of the belt that I mentioned in the video did not last long, less than a year. I purchased this OEM version and the quality is much higher; amzn.to/41L1IZb
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UPDATE: like people mentioned in the comments here, the cheaper version of the belt that I mentioned in the video did not last long, less than a year. I purchased this OEM version and the quality is much higher; amzn.to/41L1IZb

[@critterdude311]

Ah, the good ole Timemaster. The true tease in the Toro line. It's great, until it ain't. Belts, Pulleys, you name it... you better be good working with your hands if you own this thing, because you'll be spending your 'time' 'mastering' fixing this damn thing.

[@howtofixitworkshop]

Yeah it has needed some maintenance, for sure

[@bobbyshort1222]

Transmission, cables, eats belts like they are nothing, rear wheels and pulleys have all been replaced at least once. Other than that, it’s a great piece of shit.

[@bfwaring]

Thank goodness for KZbin and you! No way I could've done this without ya. Thanks again!

[@howtofixitworkshop]

You're welcome, happy to help!!

[@fgrau7376]

My 8 year old timemaster blade just stopped cutting. Sure enough the belt snapped. I watched your video and ordered the belt from Amazon you recommended.

[@JoeThomas-ws5io]

Ty brother very informative. Lost alot of self confidence after the loss of two loved ones but after watching your step by step video I changed the belt you honestly you helped restore some of my confidence. Ty

[@howtofixitworkshop]

Sorry to hear that. You're welcome

[@Ivan112865]

Thanks for this video. Made the belt repair a snap

[@howtofixitworkshop]

That's great! You're welcome!!

[@doughsnakes]

The big belt with the grooves broke on mine today. But I think I will replace all 3. The video is helpful. Thanks

[@howtofixitworkshop]

That's a good idea, may as well take everything apart just once. They're all probably going to break eventually

[@reginaldoppenheimer334]

Thanks for this video ! Idiot me was fixing to take the entire drive pulley off the bottom of the engine.

[@howtofixitworkshop]

You're welcome!

[@rebfan9200]

I leave the belt cover off. You can always keep an eye on everything. Also you don't have to wonder if it's packed with grass under there.

[@howtofixitworkshop]

That's interesting, I never thought of that. Thanks for sharing

[@kevindressel721]

I love the timemaster, but I am annoyed at having to replace these belts so often. I've had the synchronous belt fail again a week ago, and while replacing that, I noticed the blade drive belt had a big ol' crack in it. I thought I just replaced that one not too terribly long ago! Also replaced the wheel drive belt last year. I'm buying multiples of these belts to have on hand knowing they'll all fail eventually.

[@howtofixitworkshop]

I feel your pain. That's what I've done as well. And I've learned to purchase the OEM belts instead of the cheap knock offs.

[@Grandsonlandscapingllc.]

thank you brothe helps me a lot

[@howtofixitworkshop]

You're welcome!

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

Thank you for this video, it was very helpful

[@howtofixitworkshop]

You're welcome!

[@officialbrothernu]

My belt has popped 3xs in a row. Is there a recall on anything ?

[@highlanderdetroit5370]

Great!!! Thank You

[@howtofixitworkshop]

You're welcome!

[@MikeJones-nc1xz]

I am going to be replacing this same belt when I get home from work tonight. Been watching a few videos on the job today just to get a feel for what I'm going to be doing. pretty much everyone is doing it the same way, so pretty confident I can knock this out in about 20 minutes. Out of curiosity after some time has passed, how long did that new amazon/generic chinese equivalent belt last? I read a TON of reviews online that the cheaper amazon version of the belt wore out and broke again very quickly compared to the OEM belt. any 'long term' feedback on that particular belt's longevity/quality?

[@howtofixitworkshop]

I'm in my second season with the belt, and now I'm nervous! I'm hoping mine doesn't break again too quickly! So far so good

[@MikeJones-nc1xz]

@@howtofixitworkshop hopefully you get the rest of the year out of it. They seem to be every 2 or 3 year replacement items I guess

[@howtofixitworkshop]

Thank you for the warning, I better go OEM next time

[@MikeJones-nc1xz]

@@howtofixitworkshop I know I probably always will. There are only a few dollars more for the piece of mind. And I think every year after I've replaced it at the beginning of the next season I will probably buy another one to have on hand because it does seem like these things kind of eat belts like crazy lol. At least it's not super arduous to replace

[@journeyman291]

Not to bad mouth OSHA, cause they really do some great things that have saved a lot of lives and limbs, but sometimes someone in the system goes overboard, trying too hard to keep us safe. So, Toro had to come up with a system to disengage the blades while still running. Trouble is, as the engine has no throttle control and is running full speed, it's impossible to not put extreme stress on belts. That's one of the reasons Honda got out of the small engine business. Too many expensive safety and EPA compliance restrictions to continue profitably. Heck, now California wants to ban all ice for all yard maintenance products. On another note. Wnen one buys those Chinese products, saving 20% but getting 50% less product, we then only get what we deserve. We create that race to the bottom product quality effect. Then the oems think well, since no one is buying the quality product, we don't need to stock as many replacement parts and also what stock they do have, we have to store it longer, so that cost more too.

[@williamanderson5295]

Is the 'drive belt' going to the transmission AND the 'blade belt' going to the blade engage the SAME belt? Do I order two of them or what? I am changing the blade engage cable and I noticed the blade engage belt has cracks all along its length, only the fabric on top is keeping it together.

[@howtofixitworkshop]

They are actually 2 different belts, I believe they are different lengths. I should have links for both in the video description

[@williamanderson5295]

@@howtofixitworkshopThanks for the reply, but your description shows only the one belt (A low and a high quality blade engage belt) but you have no link for the drive belt that goes to the transmission as you show being replaced at the end of your video.

[@howtofixitworkshop]

Ah, ok thanks for letting me know. I actually have a separate video for the other belt. I'll add the link

[@howtofixitworkshop]

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[@williamanderson5295]

I think the transmission belt would be 120-9470.

[@calvinjohnson1338]

Please stay away from the Amazon belts, I have replaced 2 this week with each one lasting about 45 minutes. Go ahead and pay the 30 dollars for the original OEM belt

[@howtofixitworkshop]

Thanks for the tip, I may purchase one and keep it on hand when the one I have breaks!

[@howtofixitworkshop]

Yep, that cheap belt didn't last long for me either. I just picked up the OEM version for about $20 and I left a link in the description.

[@toddstwins1]

Yep, same with me

[@greghuizen]

Dang...you skipped the part that I came to KZbin for....how to get the new belt 'fed' over the lower trans pulley. Getting the old one off was easy but the new one seems too big to get past the lower nut.

[@howtofixitworkshop]

Yeah that is the hard part. I've had to replace this belt again and you have to remove that pulley from the trans and pry the trans back up into it's slot then replace the belt

[@journeyman291]

What a piss poor design. Just starting my 4th year with this mower. 2nd year the engagement cable broke. The cable was rusted. Why doesnt the factory pre lube it with graphite, just like speedometer cables are. Got that replaced under warranty. Im sure its another dry cable just waiting to break again. Now the drive belt shredded. My last self propelled mower lasted 20+ years. Only thing i replaced was the drive wheels.what bothers me, will that belt even be available years from now. I paid $900 for it. Now 4 years later i see its $1599.00 now!!! Thats over a 50% increase in just 4 years!

[@howtofixitworkshop]

Yeah, it's just another example of planned obsolescence. But wow! I can't believe this mower is selling for $1600 new now, I bought mine 6 years ago for about $700!! I've replaced a couple cables and a couple belts a few times, but other than that it's been a pretty good mower overall. I have an extra drive belt in my garage just in case, maybe I should purchase a few other spare parts to have on hand. And I better give mine a tune up so that it lasts for many more years to come, I certainly don't want to think about buying a replacement in a few years.

[@journeyman291]

@How To Fix It Workshop I found a much easier way to remove transmission belt. After bending that stop tab out of the way. Just get a set of large Channel Lock pliers and simply and easily rotate transmission, and the belt nearly falls off. Same for putting back on. There is no need to fight that darn tension spring. Figured this out because I have a severely injured, painful elbow and am basically almost 1 handed till it heals up. Lawn mowing was a little tough one armed. Lol

[@howtofixitworkshop]

Great tip, thanks for sharing. I'll keep that in mind for when I have to inevitably change the belt again

[@DIOSpeedDemon]

I have the same exact problems, if I decide to go for another High End Morrow, this Company will NEVER be on the list..

[@howtofixitworkshop]

I've actually had good luck with my 8 year old mower other than replacing belts and cables. I agree it's frustrating but now I keep extras on hand for when they break and I buy the OEM parts instead of the cheaper versions.

[@lilpap974]

Found someone who wants to charge me $100 to replace the belt (without material) seem fair?

[@critterdude311]

Yes, that's fair. It's the time involved for the labor.

[@HipaParts]

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[@howtofixitworkshop]

Sure, send us an email [e-mail] or use the link in our about page

[@HipaParts]

@@howtofixitworkshop just did. Thanks.