How to Run a Click and Tracks in Worship 2019

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[@lukeramlet275]

that "verse 2 3 4" cue will forever be ingrained in my head.

[@johnplain1546]

Ya exactly. Instead of filling yourself with the Lord you worship technology. Technology runs church services now, not the other way around.

[@noahprincivil103]

@@johnplain1546 bro...wth

[@noahprincivil103]

@@johnplain1546 you just have to adapt to new technologies

[@johnplain1546]

@@noahprincivil103 do not conform to the world

[@johnplain1546]

@@noahprincivil103 tell that to the anabaptist

[@AdamThao92]

“Were you rushing or were you dragging?!” 🖐🥁

[@savana.sabertooth9010]

🪑

[@artgingo5494]

Chorus 2, 3, 4. I imagine myself saying those words while infront of congregation. Geez ableton engraved tha in my mind. Lol.

[@joserobertocastellon]

You provide so much value through your channel! As soon as our church can afford Ableton, I'm subscribing to your Masterclass!

[@thrg6278]

This channel literally feels like their here literaly just to help churches. Thankyou!!

[@mathewstudios2410]

That’s kind of the point 😂

[@flavanthensome]

Thank you. I just had a Pastor of a small church ask me, a few days ago, about how to get started using multitracks. When I saw this, I immediately sent them a link to the video.

[@Mohmega]

Just want to thank you for all your informative videos man, we setup a great rig at our church and will be implementing backing tracks soon, once we get accustomed to the click! Greetings from Aurora, CO!

[@quinlanpayne3445]

Awesome video I used both prime and playback I like prime because of all the great community tracks.

[@adanhernandez7850]

An alternative to the Track Rig from loop community is the iConnectivity Playaudio12, it has more outputs than the Track Rig for the same $600. The Playaudio12 has 10 outputs plus you can assign the headphone output as 2 additional separate outputs, for a total of 12 outputs. Where the Playaudio12 beats the Track Rig is that you can connect 2 USB devices and play audio from both at the same time. For example, we run our tracks from an iPad routed to outputs 1 to 7 (click, guide, bass, tracks left, tracks right and sometimes we use piano on 6 and drums on 7 when needed for rehearsals or when musicians are not in the service) and we have a PC running keyboard patches from Kontact routed to outputs 8 and 9; both the iPad and PC are connected to a single Playaudio12.

[@josephbatz7803]

Thank you!

[@tchristopher10]

I'm using Reaper on windows to run tracks, video and lighting (with freestyler DMX) all on one computer. Best thing is it's only $60.I route the tracks to our X32, video out from hdmi and use a USB to DMX for lights. It's been solid for us.

[@SavedPulley]

Thank for you for this info

[@mattjabrooks]

Thanks to your videos my church has recently started using PRIME in my church here in the UK. Was previously just using an MPC with percussive loops but have now (with PRIME) started using pads with the loops and will soon start using full tracks. One step at a time though lol

[@TFaminu]

How do you like Prime!

[@jerrychen247]

Hey Jake, thanks for making this channel available to all the worship leaders around the globe. I've learned so many tips from this channel thus far. I have a quick suggestion on the audio interface for everyone who is considering upgrading their analog mixer to digital. It's the PreSonus StudioLive Series III 16R, 24R, 32R Rackmount Digital Mixer. It's a great solution for those who want to connect backing tracks into the mixer. This rack mixer offers great flexibility as you can select each channel's input from LINE, MIC, or USB input from any DAW. So instead of spending $499 on Track Rig by Loopcommunity for just 8 separate USB track (plus an 8 channels XLR snake), I thought PreSonus offers a much easier solution (with just one USB cable) if you ever want the sound engineer and the musicians to have total control of the individual backing tracks going into the FOH or monitor mixes. Cuz anytime when you deal with D/A and A/D you are potentially adding noise to the mix. In this solution, both the musician and the engineer get the cleanest path from the DAW without any signal loss whatsoever as if you were listening directly from the headphone jack of your audio interface in the studio. Keep up the great work, I love everything you are doing!

[@compucat]

From experience, I disagree. PreSonus desks, while relatively inexpensive, aren't well liked by most live sound engineers: they're incredibly awkward to mix on and have serious reliability issues. If you want a solid budget mixer, it's probably better to go with the Behringer X32 in almost every situation: you can still run multitracks over USB. (Admittedly, the new Series III desks might be a degree better than older StudioLives, but they aren't widely used enough to have any sort of track record.) However, that also requires your playback system to be located right next to your console; this might be awkward if you need to control it from the stage. Even with a remote playback app to trigger Ableton, what happens if the app fails, or if Wi-Fi drops? If the playback rig's halfway across the room, you're stuck. If you use a rackmount mixer on-stage like you're suggesting here, the engineer has the same issue: relying on network connectivity to mix. Fine for some cases, but not optimal. In the end, it's better just to suck it up and purchase an interface. If you really need 8 channels, something like a Behringer UMC1820 is reliable but inexpensive. If you're running balanced audio all the way from the interface's outputs to your mix console's inputs, noise is not going to be an issue. Heck, you can sometimes even get away without a DI, since the outputs are already balanced! If that presents issues, though, an ART T8 8-channel DI is only $160.

[@TroyNahrwold]

My church has been using Jake's method for automating worship for over a year. If you follow his guides on this channel, you WILL be successful getting started. But as Jake knows, I have one major difference with his hardware choices: you do NOT need a mac to run stable Ableton. After a full year, i can promise you that a good PC laptop will give you more power for the same or less money, and will give you no problems. Jake even has a video explaining howto set up automation on the PC. And when did you switch from myDMX? And why? I must've missed that video. As always, love the content Jake. You are truly a God sent resource forthis community!

[@Churchfront]

I switched to Lightkey back in January. MyDMX was glitching big time on us! Lightkey is 10 times better. But not PC compatible 😜

[@TroyNahrwold]

@@Churchfront Of course not! I just wondered if you found something better. MyDMX has never been easy to program. I'll have to go back and run through your recent videos. Been dealing with since personal stuff for the past 6 months or so and haven't been able to keep up with my favorite channels. 😢

[@TFaminu]

@@TroyNahrwold Praying all is well!❤️

[@marniewalinga]

Nice video! Love the things you point out. One thing I want to say to everyboy is; let there also be moments where you are not commited to tracks or cues. Let the Holy Spirit flow and speak, its really hard for us to listen to what He is saying if we are constantly focussing on the smoothnes of the songs we are playing, the awesome lights, new guitars, drums and software and so on. Its great if all these amazing things Jake pointes out ADD something to your ministry and not TAKING away the move and sometimes unpredicted speaking of God!

[@damaygo1742]

I couldnt agree more. my youth band wants to add more lights than we already have and i already struggle with focusing on the Lord. like its not a concert. who cares if the stage looks colorful. I would sing and dance and worship in the dark if i could. its just too much for me too handle

[@josephdogbey2470]

That was great; the next time, we want practical view for more clear understanding. Anyway you are doing a great job

[@dna1737]

We use isingworship, we have myself and one other singer and no band, songs are $3.99 each for the song track and the words linked to the track. We have a sound guy and a professional sound system, it works for us🙂

[@TFaminu]

Lovely bro! Is that an app?

[@creativeroom365]

I think PRIME is probably the best option for all the suggestions he did. MULTITRACKS app songs are very expensive and on top of that they want to charge you for every single features they have. Basically you’ll have to subscribe. Whereas PRIME there are absolutely NO charges and you get to choose so many varieties of songs and you get to support some producers of your choice. I use all of them but PRIME is the best option

[@IamtheKingsman]

I've not found a reason to do more with my Android than run MobileSheets Pro for storage, management, and display of my sheet music while I'm playing my keyboard. By the way, we don't use backing tracks. My keyboard is incredibly powerful, with all kinds of powerful effects so I don't need to buy expensive backing tracks. I also use the AirTurn Ped to do page turning while I play. Our worship leader uses an IPad Pro with the AirTurn Ped to manage the overall sound, devices, and lyrics display for the Church.

[@SavedPulley]

God bless you my brother in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Thank you so much for the information. Q? For an experienced music producer who works mostly on Windows, will ableton live work on windows without bugging issues? Is mac more of a personal preference for you or have u experienced tech issues?

[@kdfapartments4570]

We've just starting using Showexpress by Chauvet. What edge does Ableton live has on Chauvet, only as a lightning control device.

[@sangbawihrin3879]

What happens if you want to repeat verse but its not programmed in on track

[@avijeetbora9033]

this was very helpful.. can i use abelton on a macook air 8gb ram.. will it be powerful enough for live gigs?

[@avm_official]

I'm using only a small arranger keyboard for worship. Its almost like a one man band . can you suggest some extremely budget setup for me! I'm using some backing track which came along the keyboard

[@IAintNoPianoPlayer]

Hi Jake, with 4 outputs on your audio interface, is there a particular benefit to running the remaining tracks in stereo as opposed to splitting them up further and running them mono? For example with 4 outputs, 1) Click/Guide 2)Bass Tracks 3)Electric Tracks 4) Keys Tracks? What are your thoughts?

[@andrefavreau9818]

Playback from MultiTracks is also on Mac now.

[@igorkhmilevskiy8613]

This is old school connections. You can use Dante to deliver sound from laptop to mixing boad

[@nanahagan299]

Have you tried LiveChopz for running backing tracks ? I think its easier to use

[@BibleBikerChurch]

Well, we have started down this path... I have used Ableton for my keyboard rig for years. HAVE NEVER TOUCHED A MAC!!!, but I bought one last week to run ProPresenter... This is all "scary" to me as being unknown but can't wait to see it all work!

[@RexyFan]

Bible Biker Church hi I noticed you wrote this 4 months ago. How has it been since with running the click and tracks in your church ? I’m looking at implementing this too soon. Is it worth it ?

[@rune288]

Can you run your clack and backing track via usb while recording your rehearsal at the same time or do you have to do one or the other? I am running reaper and an X32-Mixer.

[@mkpento575]

HOw do you route click and tracks using ableton on a left and right jack set up?

[@moca4783]

Playback is on mac now!

[@jgs2207]

Can MainStage do the same? Just wondering .. as i have recently started using MainStage in worship.

[@DAVIDHERNANORDONEZCHAVEZ-ig1ce]

Thank you Jake, got a question, so it means it wouldn’t work if I send the audio from headphones jack output of laptop into Di direct box splitting it left and right, and that being sent to the sound board? Because you mentioned using an audio interface instead of a Di box, why’s that? Thanks in advance man

[@johncommons1175]

Does it matter if I'm running mono or stereo 1/4" cables from the Uphoria to the mixer?

[@immanueltetteh6232]

thank you sir #churchfront but can't i use cubase 10.5 to run my live tracks equally as i could with ableton? just asking cus i don't have 500$ now .lol

[@michaeldixon1545]

Hey, i'm using Prime for click and backing tracks. Setup, click track coming into the IEM left side and music track right side going to the mixer for the house. How can i get the backing track coming into my right ear also, so i can hear them both or is that a bad idea?

[@ricardopavon3844]

Hi Jake, I've seen the guys at Loop come up with some Logic Pro tutorials for another option to manage click and tracks. What would it be the main disadvantage of using Logic, and do you think maybe the people at Apple might be trying to catch up with Ableton/Prime on their DAW's since most worship leaders will use Macs for this purpose?

[@TFaminu]

Hey Ricardo! Any current thoughts on this? God bless you bro. Jesus loves you.

[@hollipatterson4892]

Stupid question possibly, which gear or software do you need to get the click and track to your in ears but not have the congregation hear it? Help is always appreciated! Thanks!

[@matthewtabbytosavit4805]

How does this work during spontaneous worship. Bethle, maverick and alot of the others do this at live shows. I'm curious how this works??

[@ferny9179]

I’m still kind of confused about how to connect your Mac to audio interface then into the snake for the backing track and click. Can you make a video that specifically focuses on how to connect all of this? If you have one, can I please have the link to the video. Thank you 😁

[@andrehfortunato]

In a simple way, music in L, click in R, both to mixer. To PA just the music, to in ear everything.

[@brycejohnson6893]

Which iPad are you using in the video?

[@cmarsh1]

What are your thoughts on Track Rig by Loop?

[@jeffnauman6195]

I'm sure Ableton Live, all of its associated MAC hardware, and the technically savvy folks it takes to run it can be the ticket, but there's gotta be an easier way for those of us in the 'resource-challenged' smaller church environment. Thanks anyway, but still looking.

[@compucat]

It's definitely possible to do this on a smaller budget. Macs are *absolutely* not required if you've got a good, well-tuned PC. I've trusted Ableton on PC for years as my live keys rig. My recommendation is always either a ThinkPad or a Dell Latitude: both excellent, stable, reliable workhorses. You can also get Ableton for up to 40% off using a student/educator's discount.

[@maliekmitchell5411]

Can I use a MacBook Air if I don’t have MacBook Pro?

[@paulbutlervisuals932]

Really want to implement this in our church, but how our worship is setup the flow is not so much we follow songs: verse, chorus, bridge chorus etc. We tend to switch it up and even sometimes transition from one song into another song seamlessly . So its not like a break at the end of a song then click track begins for the next song. Then you have those moments where our praise & worship leader may include a song in the line whiles on the stage. The Holy Spirit can direct him different. Also our choir uses stage monitors. Sigh so much to change and upgrade

[@Spladoinkal]

You can ABSOLUTELY do that in Ableton, in fact it was DESIGNED to jump around. For instance, I'm a worship leader that's a drummer. I can set up an electronic midi drum pad so if I hit a certain pad with a stick, it'll repeat that section of the song until I press it again. I can't also program other pads to jump to specific sections of specific songs. Finally, another pad to pause/play the tracks

[@diffez]

Wish we had a worship budget...

[@mvilla36]

CAN PRO TOOLS WORK TO

[@bcropp]

Very helpful! Will this work with a Macbook or just an iMac?

[@flavanthensome]

My church actually uses a Mac mini. It should work on a laptop or desktop configuration.

[@bcropp]

@@flavanthensome Beautiful! Thanks!

[@audionapster1]

The ableton class link doesn’t work

[@Bassplayerjosh_13]

What about sound one. 5

[@Fetch049]

why do you need a certain "sound" and pre-planned lighting to worship?

[@robinsonsoriano]

What about Logic Pro ?

[@Darthblevins]

Can anyone recommend an Android app for using ckick track that will save the songs with their tempos?

[@moments_with_IH]

It might sound low-tier, but if you only need to click, just download a metronome for your phone (aka Soundbrenner), and connect it to your mixer. It's inexpensive and quick to use. Soundbrenner is recommended because you can edit your timing, what sounds you get, and you can save your bpm for songs (can also name songs). Hope that helps!

[@kevinmcd112]

Is there a way to run something like this when songs don't really have a "fixed" structure it takes us half an hour to 45 minutes to get through 2 or 3 songs? We do a lot of repeating and "Bethel-like spontaneous" stuff and songs can easily get drawn out 8, 10 or 15 minutes. It seems that it would be difficult to run loops behind us to fill-out our sound and coordinate our lighting. Even though, with a 5-piece band (acoustic, electric, drums, bass, and keys with occasional cello, which I don't normally count because she's not always there and is only for extra "spice") we have a pretty full sound, it's always cool to eliminate a lot of the mistakes, misdirection and distractions in songs. What sayest thou?

[@Cadet44642]

Kevin McD We are using Prime at our church. Loop community makes a midi controlled foot pedal. That you could preprogram different parts of the song that repeat over and over again. It gives you 6 switches so you could program them for Verse, Chorus and Bridge and repeat. It would still leave you 2 more switches to program. It gives you 20 banks so you could theoretically program 20 songs. The sell a additional pedal to add 3 more switches and gives you the ability to add an expression jack to adjust volume and keep the click going. The Looptimus is $299 the additional pedal is $99.

[@kevinmcd112]

@@Cadet44642 Right on, bro! I'll check that out. Right now, all of our musicians, except the electric, are running IEM's and the band leader or the drummer usually runs the click, depending on who's leading. If it's the worship pastor, he runs the click. If someone else is leading the band, whoever is drumming runs it. (We have 3 VERY different drummers.) If this is as simple as using a foot switch, that could be a game-changer. Thanks a ton!

[@compucat]

Alternatively, if your drummer's running click/loops, you can use trigger pads to trigger various looping sections. Yamaha DTX and Roland SPD-SX samplers are popular as pad units, but they're massively overkill. There's probably something by Alesis that would work too.

[@kevinmcd112]

@@compucat I'd NEVER give our drummers that much power! 😂🤣😂🤣 I've led bands and even sang from behind the drum kit in some older church bands and believe it or not, it's easier to lead from behind the kit (for me) when I'm not singing. Even so, these other guys in this band are NOT band leaders. I can't imagine but I appreciate the input. Thanks!

[@BradleyMcCarty]

Can I ask you a crazy question? (Oh, I just did! ... another one...) could you point me to how to send a midi signal from one computer (running Proclaim) to another (running Showexpress)? Most common is a midi device to a computer or computer to midi device or even computer to itself. But I can't find instructions on sending a midi signal from one computer to another. Is it just as simple connecting then with a USB cable? (And neither company knows how either 🙄) I'm a complete midi newb. Sorry.

[@compucat]

Either use a pair of MIDI interfaces or something like rtpMIDI to send MIDI over a network connection.

[@BradleyMcCarty]

@@compucat I appreciate your suggestion. I'm still far from understanding it though. I need more basic instructions.

[@compucat]

Ableton has a good article on using rtpMIDI (or Mac OS X's built-in network MIDI) here: help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209071169-Sending-and-receiving-MIDI-messages-using-a-virtual-MIDI-network If you want to go the hardware route: buy two USB MIDI interfaces. Connect one to each computer. Connect MIDI In on each interface to MIDI Out on the other interface.

[@GabrielVelasco]

I can't imagine how we used to do worship before we had Ableton and in-ear monitors.

[@damaygo1742]

is that sarcasm? i like it lol

[@Charles.Wright]

Lots of missed cues and hearing damage! ;)

[@Mr12funkymonkeys]

I don't understand how it's done with it.

[@godbeforeme]

All the post zooms.

[@IamtheKingsman]

I've listened to enough click and track monitor demos now to really appreciate what you're wanting to do with this software. Unfortunately, I'm not on board with this because I really find that this software is very mechanical, and distracting to me as a musician. As we rehearse, I mark up my sheet music on my tablet so that I know exactly what I'm doing, and I am able to follow along, without distractions, taking my cues from the drummer and the director comparing them visually with my edited sheet music. This combination that I've just described doesn't distract, as I'm entering into worship with my keyboard. Frankly, with "click and track", the constant clicking and voice cues are so distracting that I couldn't worship as I ought with such a mechanistic format. At least for our worship team, I know them will enough, and think that I can speak for them as well. This isn't something that we we would want, either in rehearsal, or in performance.

[@michaeldixon1545]

Please help!

[@MPP9600]

Having played for worship teams for over 40 years, I’ve seen a lot of changes in equipment, tools, approaches, personalities and presentations. Personally, I was thrilled when the click track came into practice. I totally understand syncing the lyrics and lights to the stage cues to make it more cohesive. But there is an opposite side to the coin, or a pendulum swing that has swung way too far. In the attempt to “glue” everything together, we’ve lost the art (and ministry) of authenticity. Our presentation has become performance instead of praise. In the effort to supplement and sync, we’ve said goodbye to genuine worship. It’s become more like a rock concert instead of worshipping the Rock. Don’t get me wrong, I am absolutely in favor and use of these newer elements in worship, but they have to be tastefully done! I’ve grown weary of seeing 4 musicians on stage and hearing a sound of 20, a keyboard player with his hands folded while listening to multiple keyboard parts, animated lyric lines, lava-lamp background images, moving lights into the audience, bright light bars timed to the beats of the music, and so on. Simplicity and authenticity have gone by the wayside. Again, I get it, I really do. But it’s gone too far. Let’s find an equilibrium to the madness to tastefully blend these augmented worship tools with true and unfiltered worship. Please, can we find a middle ground before losing all sense of what it means to lead someone in worship without becoming a show?

[@flavanthensome]

I agree it can become too much, but utilizing these tools in WORSHIP is easily done by remembering one principle. Our #1 focus is worshipping God and anything that distracts from that is unnecessary. You CAN automate things with simplicity and just use them to draw focus to Him. The idea is not to distract and/or impress the congregation. Instead the goal of these tools is to help the congregation to focus on God, by eliminating other distractions such as late/wrong slides, songs at the wrong tempo, or an overzealous light person.

[@MPP9600]

I'm right with ya! Like the adage says - too much of a good thing is too much. Worship teams, use these valuable tools for your worship, but PLEASE use them tastefully instead of getting in the way so as to distract from the worship experience. Your weekly services are for worship, not for concerts.

[@RaphBaumann]

Great comment!

[@kevinmcd112]

Ya know, people were saying almost the same thing when churches began to angle the outside rows of pews inward to make it easier for people to see the pastor. There were complaints of churches were becoming too much like "the theatre". Then, when the pews were padded, all hell broke loose because the belief was that people shouldn't be comfortable in church. It drives me nuts when people talk about their "worship team [this]" and their "worship team [that]" and "we're not putting on a rock concert" and " this isn't a show" and all this other stuff in an attempt to "spiritualize" everything and sound less "secular". Dude, you have a guitar, keys, drums and bass all playing to a click track. You're a rock band. Then, you get up on a platform every Sunday morning to play rock music and a few ballads but because you're in a "church" playing songs you heard on the Christian radio station, you suddenly cease being a rock band and magically turn into a "worship team"? Really? Look, the band at my church has the loud music, the lights and everything but the smoke machine and we're FREAKING AMAZING! Oh ... AND ... we have INCREDIBLE worship every single Sunday because we prioritize the Presence and still put on a great show! I live in Vegas and have a friend who leads at a small church with a really bad band. I told her she needs to fire her band because they suck. She still wanted to give them a chance. So, I asked, "Let's say Celine called you and asked you to open in front of her last shows before she retires after her residency. You can do anything you want but you have to bring your own band. Would you hire these guys?" Of course, she wouldn't! So, if we would call the best musicians we know to put on the best show we can to open in front of Celine Dion, why can't we do the same thing for the Father, the Son, the Spirit and the Bride?

[@Reyfox1]

Interesting comments. We use technology but are not tech driven. I understand the reasoning for having things automated because of limited staff. It's tough doing "everything" and you can miss what is really happening and why we are there in church. I can say personally, I would leave church exhausted when we had stage monitors and the analog mixer. The constant battles of "I can't hear myself" (I have thoughts on this but will keep them to myself) and the monitors destroying the way things sounded in the chapel. We went digital this year. XR18, XTouch, laptop, tablet, dual band router and IEM. Thanks Jake for the video on inexpensive IEM... I did it and the band loves them as much as I like the lack of monitors! I've recommended that video to others. I find that churches are like individuals. We all have different tastes in music and styles of preaching. Loud I avoid, but that's me and our church. We have electric drums, 2 guitars, 2 keyboards, 1 bass and 4 to 5 singers, yet we are not a "rock band" at all by any definition. I am also interested in hearing the congregation singing along with the worship team. But that is "me". We also do not hire musicians, but have volunteers from the church. None professional. If we are putting on a show, then that is what it will look like, a show. People (at least where I live in Poland) will become spectators instead of participants in praise and worship. And that is not what it's about. If people notice only the team, then the team is doing something wrong because it's not about the team, it's about Christ and coming to worship God.

[@ephraimabhishek3385]

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[@jamesoldhamdop]

Why do you want to sound like Hillsong or Elevation?

[@timmarciniak632]

Amen, Brother! I want to sound like our own worship band...not a worship cover band

[@dylacious92]

The lack of PC & Android recommendations is lame

[@damaygo1742]

with all those reasons to use clicks and tracks. couldnt you just practice to keep tempo? or doesnt it kill the spiritual vibe when you hear CHORUS 2 3 4. Or dosent it take away the realness of real instruments when you use backing tracks? Why would you want to need to rely on a program to tell you what and when to play? im asking seriously, im not trying to be mean. One time i was playing bass for the weekend service, and during practice, the track stopped working and the band literally didnt know what to do as if they Needed the track to play. Im personally a more natural organic musician, but i think tracks just take it too far. I can never get into the spirit when i have IEMs in. Sorry if that was a little judgmental. i just wanna hear your thoughts

[@Charles.Wright]

What does it mean to "get into the spirit"?

[@damaygo1742]

@@Charles.Wright like coming under the Holy Spirit. I cant really explain it, its only an experience. But none of that new age crap. Like what the bible talks about in Acts

[@EdMelendez]

Darn. I was really hoping the fourth reason was going to have something to do with the Holy Spirit. Oh well.

[@roybega1481]

Technology can improve performance, but can it lead worship? The key word is performance. Is worship about, performance or the lead of the Holy Spirit? Surely only the Holy Spirit can enable people to lead worship. Worship is not a performance. It is giving thanks and praise to our Lord God by following the lead of the Holy Spirit. Can music be felt when using click-track? Technology can, however, be a useful tool with the right motivation. Say for instance, when used during practice sessions or learning a new song. However, surely songs need to be open spontaneity. For example, just because a song is rehearsed at 145bpm or 74bpm, doesn’t mean it will work best at that tempo when used with the congregation. Maybe during practice night, a song is rehearsed to start big with an electric guitar intro, but come Sunday, it seems right to start with just the acoustic guitar and vocals. What if, halfway through the song, the leader feels they should slow it down? What happens to the click-track then? Therefore, shouldn’t control of a song be left to the Holy Spirit? Should we highly value the Holy Sprit’s spontaneity in worship? Those un-rehearsed moments when anything can and will happen. Spontaneous, cannot have a pre-set tempo. Therefore, while click-track may be appropriate for musicians focused on singing worldly songs, or for practice, has it any value in anticipating Holy Spirit spontaneous, moments of exuberant praise or intimate worship? Does using click-track immediately tell us worship is focused more on the songs? Does it focus on the song and neglect anything that the Holy Spirit might potentially want to express during and between songs? Should songs always be played and sung how they are written, or should the Holy Spirit be ‘given licence’ to re-arrange them in meeting the needs of the moment? Can technology become an ‘end in itself’, a way to ‘keep up’ with society, and exclude the Holy Spirit? Can worship become just a human expression? Is being ‘boxed-in’ probably the best way to describe worshiping to an electronic metronome? Ultimately, should worship be about expression through the Holy Spirit, or a machine's accuracy? Should we be against technological advances? Or should we evaluate our motivation for click-track? Is it fit for the purpose in Church corporate? worship?

[@roybega1481]

Where is the Holy Spirit in click-track? The Holy Spirit must control worship, not a machine. The Holy Spirit is spontaneous a machine isn't. Click-track does not allow the Holy Spirit to intervene during a song. If during practice a start to a song is set with a 'heavy' lead guitar but on Sunday it feels more appropriate to lead with an acoustic guitar, what happens? The Holy Spirit is forgotten.

[@hossamhaddad7]

I think you guys are not professional and restricting worship music and make confusion by this difficult technology and the click giude cues, No one is perfect and even technology make mistakes but by practicing we can avoid distractions and there's no need for this extra technology and fake music and worldy shows inside the house of God. Where is simplicity humility in the House of the Lord? And you just make churches spend a lot of money to buy these applications and music tracks and equipment, I can lead worship and cover the worship songs in my on version by making a list of songs and following and reading the lyrics orders and chords only, And instead of spending this amount of extra money for worship music use it to help the poor people around the world or those in need or the gospel ministries or the people of God. Nothing better than live music by You not by the computer 💻.

[@EWUFBIiswatching]

Hail Satan

[@dna1737]

We use isingworship, we have myself and one other singer and no band, songs are $3.99 each for the song track and the words linked to the track. We have a sound guy and a professional sound system, it works for us🙂