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7 жыл бұрын

Ask This Old House master electrician Scott Caron turns a shed into a powered-up hangout by running electricity underground.
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Time: 1-2 days
Cost: $4000-5000
Skill Level:
Difficult
Tools:
Trenching machine
Shovel
Propane torch
Concrete mixer
Hole Saw
Drill/Driver
Screwdriver
Shopping List:
1 ½-inch PVC conduit pipe
PVC junction boxes
UF 6-gauge electrical wire
UF 6-4 electrical wire
NM 14-2 electrical wire
Electrical wiring boxes
Breakers
Electrical Sub Panel
Masonry screws
Steps:
1. A project like this should only be performed by a licensed electrician.
2. Before digging, call the utility locating service to mark any underground pipes or wires.
3. Begin by digging a trench from the house to the shed. This can be done with a trenching machine or a shovel. The trench should be 18 inches deep to bury electrical conduit according to code. In some cases, you may not be able to reach that depth due to site conditions.
4. Spread out a layer of sand into the trench to protect the conduit from sharp rocks.
5. Lay out the lengths of 1 ½-inch PVC conduit to go from the house to the shed.
6. Use PVC cement solution to coat the inside of each pipe and connect them together.
7. To make the PVC pipe conform changes in grade, use a propane torch to heat the pipe and make it pliable.
8. Form the shapes needed and lay the PVC conduit in the trench.
9. Use 90 degree PVC fittings to connect the underground pipe to the side of the house and shed.
10. Use a drill/driver, masonry screws and clips to attach the pipes to the side of the house and shed.
11. Use a hole saw to carve out a hole to feed the pipe and junction box into the side of the house and the shed.
12. Add a second layer of sand over the pipe in the trench to act as a warning in case anyone accidentally digs in the area and then cover that sand with caution tape.
13. Mix concrete with water and cover any conduit that did not reach a depth of 18 inches due to site conditions.
14. When the concrete dries, back fill the trench with old and new soil.
15. Feed fish tape from one side of the PVC pipe to the other. This will be used to pull up the electrical wires.
16. Tie a thin rope to the fish tape at the opposite end and pull that back through.
17. At the shed, use electrical tape to tie the 4 individual UF, 6-gauge wires (2 hots, neutral and ground) and feed them back through the conduit.
18. Mount a sub panel in the shed and tie on a braided 6-4 UF wire.
19. Connect the individual wires to each braided corresponding 6-4 wire using insulated connectors in a junction box.
20. The ground wire and the neutral wire will terminate in different spots in the subpanel. Connect them to the appropriate terminal with a screwdriver.
21. Tie in both hot wires to opposite sides of busbar, allowing 120 volts to 3 different breakers on both sides.
22. Attach desired electrical wire boxes throughout the shed for lights, light switches and outlets.
23. Run 14-2 NM wires throughout the shed and tie them through electrical wire boxes.
24. Attach any desired fixtures in the shed or on outside and run wire as needed.
25. Tie in 14-2 NM wires from fixtures and receptacles into sub panel breakers as needed.
26. Turn off the electricity inside the home at the main breaker panel.
27. Connect both hot 6-gauge UF wires to new 60 Amp breaker inside main breaker panel in the home.
28. Connect the neutral 6-gauge wire to the neutral bar inside main breaker.
29. Connect the ground 6-gauge wire to to ground bar inside the main breaker.
30. Turn the power back on inside the home at the main breaker panel.
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@jamesmartello1827
@jamesmartello1827 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell you one thing I was as electrical contractor in the Chicago area and I’ve never seen a sand base and concrete and warning tape installed in any trench I’ve done or anyone else has done. We used either rigid, iMac or pvc where the local codes allowed. I’m not sure if anyone could afford the work to the garage if I had to do all those steps. The coolest part of the video was the pvc heater to bend the pvc. We used to use a straight propane torch. Maybe that’s why at 69 yrs old I’m forgetting some things because of the fumes that came off the pvc if you burned the out side of the pvc while heating if.
@Scrapla1
@Scrapla1 Жыл бұрын
My dad did this work back in the 80s and said very similar things when watching this lol
@danjohnson2098
@danjohnson2098 Жыл бұрын
You would have to take out a second loan on your house to afford this.Quality work no doubt.
@wayneagent2119
@wayneagent2119 10 ай бұрын
Right wow
@johndavies2949
@johndavies2949 7 ай бұрын
Well you measured your 18" wrong. The top of the pipe should be at 18". In other words 18" of cover. Therefore the depth of the trench should have been 21".
@Blueshirt38
@Blueshirt38 4 ай бұрын
Areas all have their own code, and I'm sure you're aware of that. Same with how concrete masonry and plumbing are to vastly different codes in the south than the would be in Chicago due to the lack of constant freeze/thaw cycles.
@sisi1979g
@sisi1979g Жыл бұрын
This book kzbin.infoUgkxb2mhCug-GkCWrq69Ce2I0nM0D4QpxAqu does have a lot of great information on the building of sheds, design ideas, building options, etc. The author goes through the steps to build a foundation, framing, roof, even ideas on internal storage and external finishes. The text is easy to follow and understand. There are many sidebars that give tips and advice which most laymen probably wouldn't have considered. The photographs are great quality too. This is a great book and I'd recommend it highly for anyone needing or interested in building a shed.
@joeny1980
@joeny1980 3 жыл бұрын
That's alot of confidence in your work to trench, run the conduit, glue it, bury it, cement it .... And THEN feed that wire.
@frandanco6289
@frandanco6289 3 жыл бұрын
Its a conduit in trench... It works that way.. The fact that he could run a fiberglass fish tape all the they way from one end to the other tells him he is good.. Good guys always run 2 or extra when they are running anything because as we all know, you end up using them all up later.. He did not feed the wire, he ran a rope and then pulled the wire in.. I hope he attached, or had enough rope in the conduit to help him do it again... If nothing else, a really good strong string to be able to use to pull in a new rope for later, if needed..
@eugenelee9096
@eugenelee9096 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile I can't even trust myself to screw in the outlet cover before checking to make sure it works first
@artemartem1134
@artemartem1134 2 жыл бұрын
@@frandanco6289 I for sure would have added a second pipe while I have it all dug up anyways. cable, ethernet, anything you want can go in it.
@nathanscandella6075
@nathanscandella6075 3 ай бұрын
It’s actually a code requirement that the conduit run be complete before pulling wire, so confidence or not, you kind of have to. For PVC conduit, that means gluing before pulling wire. For a pro, that didn’t look like a particularly difficult pull.
@joeny1980
@joeny1980 3 ай бұрын
@@nathanscandella6075 fine, glue the conduit... But backfill and concrete :)
@twes619
@twes619 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect how to video... Renting a trenching machine today. Just need to learn how to become a master electrician...I should be done in 5-10 years. Wish me luck!
@pgood7266
@pgood7266 4 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to be an electrician to do anything you saw in this video
@buddyclem7328
@buddyclem7328 4 жыл бұрын
@@pgood7266 I think that was the joke.
@BigHappysPlace
@BigHappysPlace 4 жыл бұрын
thats a long time to rent a trencher..
@flintsmiley9595
@flintsmiley9595 3 жыл бұрын
3yrs left on a home depot rental ahaha
@ajs96350
@ajs96350 3 жыл бұрын
And don't overload your panel like he just did.
@jameshawkins809
@jameshawkins809 6 жыл бұрын
I just got finished doing a project where I had to run wire underground but I was putting a GFCI outlet at 17 trees for Christmas lights for a children's hospital. He was lucky to use that machine, they didn't want use to ruin the grass so we had to roll back the sod. Was so much work but it was for the kids!
@SnotRocket123
@SnotRocket123 Жыл бұрын
I’m a new parent and have had both my kids in an out of children’s hospitals the past few years. The work you all do really help us parents of sick kids to feel a bit better during hard times. Thank you!
@bobloblaw7465
@bobloblaw7465 4 жыл бұрын
If you don't have a long enough fish tape, I use nylon pull string, tie a piece of plastic bag to the end, go to the other end of the conduit and use a vacuum. Works 90% of the time, every time.
@illestofdemall13
@illestofdemall13 4 жыл бұрын
And very fast.
@timothygunckel7162
@timothygunckel7162 4 жыл бұрын
I'd put the cable or pull rope through as I assemble the conduit.
@bobloblaw7465
@bobloblaw7465 4 жыл бұрын
@@timothygunckel7162 yea that works. Much more a pain in the butt tho. I only do that in certain situations.
@JimDean002
@JimDean002 2 ай бұрын
That old man showed me how do that fairly easily? One time. As you start, you have a piece of fiberglass fish rod That's at least a foot longer than your conduit joints will be. Tie your pull string to that stuff it through the first conduit so it pops out. Before you glue the joint you're at You grabbed that fiberglass rod and shoot it through into the next joint. Once you see string, you know it's all the way through. Go ahead and glue that joint and move on. Just keep doing that until you hit the end of the run. He and I had to run 500 ft. That way And it worked pretty well. Still not as fast as a vacuum and a string. But there was a box in the middle that would have interrupted that so he wanted to do it this way​@@timothygunckel7162
@clownhands
@clownhands 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know why but this video shows up in my feed once a year and I watch it every time
@glyphic313
@glyphic313 Жыл бұрын
I like this electrician. He talks very straightforward and simple....Great advice!
@Imacat12370
@Imacat12370 Жыл бұрын
I was expecting a small trenching machine...Brings out the mother of all trenching machines!
@danaharris503
@danaharris503 7 жыл бұрын
Gives you a good idea what is involved, not every aspect is covered but when you think this is at least several days worth of work and the time to get inspections and they are trying to pare it down to 11 minutes I'd say that was a great video.
@marcbirth3987
@marcbirth3987 Жыл бұрын
7 days? This is half a day to a day's work at most, Especially if you're using a trenching machine. I've dug trenches by hand that were 15m long at 600mm deep to do similar installs. Still took a day with 2 guys
@therealnickroberts
@therealnickroberts 4 жыл бұрын
ATOH always does THE BEST freaking job. Every possible scenario is considered and every guideline is met and exceeded. I'm always yelling at my TV, "THAT'S SO NIIIIICEEEE!"
@TheMixmastamike1000
@TheMixmastamike1000 7 жыл бұрын
He is my favorite electrician from the show
@diyboomboxesintexas2805
@diyboomboxesintexas2805 7 жыл бұрын
Ramped Upp When ATOH first started, they had a different electrician
@therealnickroberts
@therealnickroberts 4 жыл бұрын
You guys have such a good KZbin presence. So glad cause I used to watch on PBS all the time and now I watch it constantly online. Really cool to see the program adapt to the times.
@Mike1614b
@Mike1614b 2 жыл бұрын
with that small 100A main service adding a few lighting circuits in the detached garage is feasible. Installing a level 2 charging station is a stretch
@queerdor
@queerdor 8 күн бұрын
Did you add gravel to your trenches or just backfill?
@coffeeisthepathtovictory1290
@coffeeisthepathtovictory1290 Жыл бұрын
There is no KZbin without This Old House.
@GenX-Memories
@GenX-Memories 7 жыл бұрын
Good ol' shop rocks.
@stevenpersinger6577
@stevenpersinger6577 2 жыл бұрын
He said it's a little tricky to run a conduit from the box to the panel after he just trenches an underground feeder. He should run the pipe to pull wire all the way with no terminations. Way easier and safer
@garydahle6963
@garydahle6963 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned the 8ft ground rod, (made electrode) I would have recommended it for the shed. Even if the NEC doesn't require it.
@Ofthehunt
@Ofthehunt 2 жыл бұрын
the code does tell you that you need a ground rod for a any separate structure fed by feeders or more than one branch circuit. aka this shed.
@joecool4656
@joecool4656 Жыл бұрын
@@Ofthehunt Interesting. My shed is grounded to our house circuitry.
@oscarjr2679
@oscarjr2679 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t need to run the ground wire to the house smh. Definitely needed the ground rod but not to be tied to the main panel
@bugajk25
@bugajk25 3 жыл бұрын
This man is frkn thorough!!!!!!!! 👍🏻 All completely unnecessary 🤓 but I love a man who gives it his all!!!!!!
@chrishulse5305
@chrishulse5305 6 жыл бұрын
Living in England we generally use steel wire armoured cable for direct burial underground, no need for any additional protection, also we have 240v single phase so only need to run 3 wires instead of four, if we had two phases it would give us 415v! Always interesting to see how things are done differently across the pond.
@PapiChuloElMerengero
@PapiChuloElMerengero 4 жыл бұрын
You guys always make it look so easy and simple....makes me believe I can do most of these things that you guys do...
@onlythewise1
@onlythewise1 Жыл бұрын
practice makes it easy
@alittax
@alittax 7 ай бұрын
But you can do it, too!
@Chopwoodcarrywater
@Chopwoodcarrywater 7 жыл бұрын
I've been watching this show for 20 years. I learn something every time.
@semsemwood187
@semsemwood187 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget. ⚌⚌ twitter.com/a054sd/status/1389636166585143300 !💖🖤❤️今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上,強者,富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落,氏族,城鎮,城市和鄉村中的弱者,無`'守和貧窮成員。然而,人類的生存意願迫使那些被拒絕,被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式,並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物,不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反,他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔,切塊,調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類,在食品市場上被忽略的部分家用蔬菜和肉類,並且學會了使用芳香的木煙(如山核桃,山核桃和豆科灌木 來調味g食物煮
@frandanco6289
@frandanco6289 3 жыл бұрын
That shed should be insulated and drywalled, finished, and painted.. A nice shade of white will also brighten and reflect the light better in there... Electrician did a perfect job.. Thank you..
@twilliams6272
@twilliams6272 7 жыл бұрын
yes my man your technique is fire..... nice skills ..
@killawatt8243
@killawatt8243 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! Had no idea if it went shallow to cover it with some concrete
@caleberwin65
@caleberwin65 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin university can not be beaten for the price.
@getoffyourbassandletsfish7651
@getoffyourbassandletsfish7651 6 жыл бұрын
We used extension cords duct taped together about a foot under ground leading from an outlet. Only accidentally dug it up twice but not fully threw orange extension cord.
@nav5897
@nav5897 3 жыл бұрын
Great service thanks for sharing
@fartpooboxohyeah8611
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 2 жыл бұрын
I've had an extension cord with gfci built in going out to my shed for at least ten years, lol. It's run out the basement window along and between our fence and the shrubs to the shed. I check it every couple of years or so and it's still in good shape.
@chrisE815
@chrisE815 2 жыл бұрын
How does that handle charging your Tesla?
@chrisE815
@chrisE815 2 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Burlos might provide 5-6 miles per hour of charge, but I doubt you could find an evse that runs 20+ amps @120 volts. Not a bad idea but 240volt service would be ideal, especially in this case. The only extraordinary expense is the trenching. IMO this was a good investment if they will be buying an electric car (or two)
@garybrown7044
@garybrown7044 2 жыл бұрын
are you a retired electrician, ha, ha!
@2009mechanic
@2009mechanic 6 жыл бұрын
Also with the unheated shed , you may want to use the "No-OX" grease on all connections , even the splices in the boxes. Don't forget about the conduit plug duct seal compound where that conduit enters the building to keep condensation from building up and dripping out into the panel and possibly onto the main lugs. In this case he broke the connection by using a junction box so that wouldn't happen but would still use the sealer in the junction box where the conduit comes through. This would be even more important in the box at the house as it's all downhill from the shed and that's where the water will go. Yup , you NEED to have a ground rod at that shed service also. Just don't forget to remove that little green bonding screw in the neutral bar if it came with one.
@JungleYT
@JungleYT 4 жыл бұрын
I have 120VAC running from the main house from a power head out to my apartment in the back - roof to roof... It's been hooked up that way since the 1950s when my Grandmom built the place for my Dad. My plan is to run a new line thru the main house attic, out the wall and jump across to the apartment thru a conduit.
@SilverCymbal
@SilverCymbal 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are so helpful - They inspired so many of my own videos!
@lrodriguez9315
@lrodriguez9315 6 жыл бұрын
all that work with some dim lights at the end
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 4 жыл бұрын
It's broad daylight outside dum dum, of course the lights will appear dim.
@lrodriguez9315
@lrodriguez9315 4 жыл бұрын
@@Doomzdayxx yeah your right must be the special effects
@penguin12902
@penguin12902 4 жыл бұрын
@Phil Meup or put up a solar panel. For less than $200 I charge my tools in my shed and didn't dig up the yard. And it doesn't cost me anything on the power bill. And I have nice bright LED lights.
@lucas01230
@lucas01230 4 жыл бұрын
@@penguin12902 u got any links for what you used? or general specifications what you used
@therealnickroberts
@therealnickroberts 4 жыл бұрын
Really wanna see that cool barn style light at night
@trevorschiavone8395
@trevorschiavone8395 3 жыл бұрын
This homeowner really took advantage on TOH. Sometimes I cringe at what people are on this show for , but this guy...he asked for their help with a project that probably would have costed thousands
@heroknaderi
@heroknaderi 5 жыл бұрын
Very Helpful Thank you.
@waltmooredanwilson8754
@waltmooredanwilson8754 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Thanks for sharing. God Bless.
@tonym3082
@tonym3082 7 жыл бұрын
Never seen an electrician work so hard lol
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Well how often have you seen electricians work in general? It’s usually hard work.
@jxmai7687
@jxmai7687 3 жыл бұрын
That was not very hard at all compare those in the factory. lol
@trevorj5772
@trevorj5772 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve never seen a residential electrician work that hard. In commercial or industrial, that’s lights work
@austinfisher5477
@austinfisher5477 2 жыл бұрын
And I think he actually cleaned up after himself lol
@Tairone1337
@Tairone1337 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahhahaaaaaaaa
@ALTNEWSUSA
@ALTNEWSUSA 7 жыл бұрын
I always use an insulated screwdrivers when attaching wires to a circuit breaker. Even though the breaker is off, it protects any contact with the charged electrified panel board.
@craigcorson3036
@craigcorson3036 4 жыл бұрын
I used to work on live circuits all the time. If you know what you're doing, you don't get shocked. Mostly. 😵😬
@tylerhurd9569
@tylerhurd9569 2 жыл бұрын
Over kill for 240 120v.
@timm8900
@timm8900 4 жыл бұрын
In industrial plants the concrete is normally dyed red so that it's obvious that it is electrical if it's ever dug up.
@jayrmahidlawon5092
@jayrmahidlawon5092 3 жыл бұрын
scott caron is a great electrician,,,,
@jonton6541
@jonton6541 2 жыл бұрын
Love how Scott works and his explanation as he goes. Is he still with the show?
@TjStammen
@TjStammen 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think he is still on the show now the knew electric videos are with a different electrician
@brandonspies
@brandonspies Жыл бұрын
I actually want more information on that specific shed. What size did he get? That is pretty much the EXACT layout I need/want. It's perfect! Someplace to put bikes, all the garden tools, our push mower, an overflow storage for some tools that are larger when not in use such as my table saw as I mainly do automotive work. All this with a smaller sub work area would be AMAZING!! 240 isn't necessary but is a nice idea as a possibility for the future as there's no driveway where I want it but incase I want to use a 240v power tool or welder out back instead of my current garage/shop which is just overflowing with so much stuff I can't get work done without moving something always.
@litiviousspartus4611
@litiviousspartus4611 4 жыл бұрын
Love this show.
@BottleJackBuddy
@BottleJackBuddy 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@ozzy2753
@ozzy2753 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome, useful for when I build my garage. Thanks!
@jasgud
@jasgud 6 жыл бұрын
@thisoldhouse fish tape is a pain when running in conduit. use twine, a plastic bag and a shopvac. tie plastic bag to twine and stuff the bag in one end of the pipe. Then on the other end of the conduit "attach" (hand hold, duct tape, whatever) the shop vac and turn it on. the bag will seal the pipe creating a vacuum and cause the bag to get sucked into the shopvac. This happens VERY quickly so watch out. This even works when wires are already in the conduit, as long as its not too full.
@grumpy-man
@grumpy-man 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but that is genius!
@dc5duben96
@dc5duben96 2 жыл бұрын
great video lots of great tips!
@911alps
@911alps 7 жыл бұрын
Wow luv that trench digging machine
@nathanross7489
@nathanross7489 4 жыл бұрын
I just love when all these videos don’t have a single rock in the soil! That’s about all we have is rocks.
@AshleyN654420091
@AshleyN654420091 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, right
@MrJoshdavis99
@MrJoshdavis99 4 жыл бұрын
The way these shows show it, it's as easy as building in Minecraft
@charinabottae
@charinabottae 4 жыл бұрын
Well... that ain't the fault of This Old House, or the homeowner they are working with. Kind of odd critiquing a video based on where you chose to live.
@jasonverrastro1709
@jasonverrastro1709 4 жыл бұрын
And nobody ever busts a knuckle or throws there tools.
@brandonGCHACHU
@brandonGCHACHU 4 жыл бұрын
Good thing is your house will probably never be swallowed by a sinkhole lol
@SuperJollyJ
@SuperJollyJ 7 жыл бұрын
Nice bowline knot after the fish tape. Has This Old House ever done a show on knots and rigging?
@ymaylove
@ymaylove 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! i saw you tie a bowline knot between guide probe and wire
@truth7416
@truth7416 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thanks
@Dennis.5150
@Dennis.5150 4 жыл бұрын
Measurements are from the top of the conduit to grade not from the bottom of the trench with partial sand fill (See 2017 NEC Table 300.5, note 1)
@oldtimer3180
@oldtimer3180 2 жыл бұрын
BUT, BUT he is a Master Electrician. So a bit of help Dig 24 " than 6" of sand then bury and have the Tape a few inches below the surface. He may be on You Tube but I would have FAILED the trench. The line to the shed is not going to supply enough to run a a car charger. . Another FAIL
@johnroberts9560
@johnroberts9560 4 жыл бұрын
Hi TOH , I love this episode cause it shows Roger Cook , I hope he is doing better with his health problems !!! 👍😘🛠
@LosoIAm
@LosoIAm 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you!
@JustJoe36
@JustJoe36 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else see that bowline? Truly a professional!
@tnoel374
@tnoel374 7 жыл бұрын
Good video, very informative too.
@jaycahow4667
@jaycahow4667 Жыл бұрын
So the house has 100Amp service and you run 60Amps to the shed. Maybe you should have suggested they get upgraded to 200Amp service for the main panel like most modern houses so they have power to spare. You also could have run 6 Gauge UF-B underground rated wire in the conduit as well. It looks like he used expansion couplings where the conduit came out of the ground as well. It would have been nice to see the final sub panel with the surge protection and breakers installed.
@fnhwk
@fnhwk 3 ай бұрын
No you could not have pulled 6/3 UF through all that conduit. That statement alone tells me you have no idea what you're talking about. Making your entire, lengthy comment useless. Sorry
@jaycahow4667
@jaycahow4667 3 ай бұрын
@@fnhwk I would have used larger conduit and wire lube and it would have pulled just fine. Four lines is lengthy comment for you (it could have been a lot longer), life must be tough with the attention span of a three year old..............
@bobconnell8492
@bobconnell8492 3 жыл бұрын
Great refreshing course
@danielwanner8708
@danielwanner8708 3 жыл бұрын
with all due respect . Hire 4 day laborers , plastic tarp , cut the grass and sett off to the side . dig small trench by hand ,put dirt on tarp . Plant pipe ,,backfill , put cut sod back . nice clean job. Electrician is expensive way to dig a trench . As you plant the pipe ,run rope through the pipe . No need for fishing tool . I also would put the sub panel in out building . I'm building an out building and want to run power into it . Great video I learnt a lot , thank you .
@rafaelcastro6466
@rafaelcastro6466 7 жыл бұрын
very practical I learned more in a couple of minutes than hours in the occupational school! thanks
@traymuse3810
@traymuse3810 7 жыл бұрын
Rafael Castro that school must suck
@johnbalzano6588
@johnbalzano6588 7 жыл бұрын
Rafael Castro oh, ok, now go stick your hands in the load center after watching a 12 minute tutorial.
@tpgoat
@tpgoat 7 жыл бұрын
Rafael Castro to bad it's bad information.
@monstersofthemidway7125
@monstersofthemidway7125 2 жыл бұрын
After watching that video, I still have many, many questions that were not touched upon for example: - Why PVC rather than RIDGID conduit? - What schedule is acceptable for underground PVC? - Required permit not mentioned (comment) - Required county inspection not mentioned (comment) - If only one circuit is needed to the out building, is 6GA wire still required? - Is UF cable acceptable for all underground applications? - Etc., Etc., Etc.
@ryansaunchegraw2836
@ryansaunchegraw2836 2 жыл бұрын
Don't do diy electric especially with only this guy's video... These videos should be banned
@KindCreature1
@KindCreature1 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice job!
@loreall.2461
@loreall.2461 Жыл бұрын
This was a really cool video!
@drajah1986
@drajah1986 4 жыл бұрын
I pull string as I install the conduit. It's strung and ready to pull wire after install. Much easier
@stevenhudson3545
@stevenhudson3545 4 жыл бұрын
Thats pointless push a fish tape thru there
@drajah1986
@drajah1986 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhudson3545 you feed and you reel a fish tape. You don't "pull" it. Experience will teach you this
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't that add the risk of extruded PVC glue inside the conduit sticking to the string?
@jeffdege4786
@jeffdege4786 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I didn't see mentioned in this - 811. You're running underground facilities yourself. This means you're going to have private facilities in your backyard. And private facilities means that the utility locators - 811 - will _not_ locate it for you. That is, if you call 811 and they come out and mark your backyard, they will not mark your new electrical cable. You need to remember that it's there, and tell any new owners. As a general rule, if you have electrical power in your garage, and don't have a meter in your garage, you can assume that you have private underground facilities. If you don't know where it is, you need to hire a private locator, because the utilities won't know about it.
@tubeyou0925
@tubeyou0925 4 жыл бұрын
what? at 2:41...
@jeffdege4786
@jeffdege4786 4 жыл бұрын
@@tubeyou0925 At 2:41 they mentioned calling the "utility locating service", which is 811. What they don't mention is that 811 forwards locate requests to the utilities that have undergoing facilities in your area, and that each will come out and locate their facilities, but that the utilities will _not_ locate facilities that they didn't place and aren't aware of. If you bury electric cable yourself, or if any prior owner had buried cable, calling 811 is not enough. The electric company didn't bury it, they don't know that it's there, and they won't come out and tell you where it is. You need to call 811 before you dig, but you also need to be aware that any private facilities are your responsibility. 811 won't locate them for you.
@christophereaton4694
@christophereaton4694 3 жыл бұрын
That's why they put in the caution tape.
@ImpalamansGarage
@ImpalamansGarage 6 жыл бұрын
Scott does good work.
@thisfool90
@thisfool90 Жыл бұрын
Everytime I watch This Old House and it requires digging, I think to myself... you guys have it SO easy! Try digging where I'm at!! Clay soils. Especially if it hasn't rained. Sheesh. I pray for the soil in this video.. I wish
@roncole2095
@roncole2095 4 жыл бұрын
“Pretty good sized trench digger” pulls out a whole bobcat.
@foxfiresidechats5227
@foxfiresidechats5227 4 жыл бұрын
I know right hahahah. Master Electrician?? More like Master Landscaper that day instead.
@ironmatic1
@ironmatic1 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the minimum size trencher in south-central Texas if your site hasn’t been engineered and graded to hell and back.
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t an understatement. They come a lot bigger than that.
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si 3 жыл бұрын
Fox Fireside Chats yep. A lot of people are surprised to learn the huge variety of tasks electricians undertake that don’t involve twisting wires together. Seems like you’re one of those people. I’m glad you learned something.
@ironmatic1
@ironmatic1 3 жыл бұрын
@@RB-xv4si Yep, huge Vermeer crawler trenchers are standard fare on most every construction site.
@fischb22
@fischb22 6 жыл бұрын
when i installed mine, i went panel to panel with conduit, sucked pull string in and done.(along with a second ground rod at the sub panel)
@taylorlightfoot
@taylorlightfoot 4 жыл бұрын
Brian Fischman Yeah. They weren’t very clear about the necessity for a second ground rod installed at the shed or why. They did touch on it slightly at the end, but it was not explained very well and wasn’t clear it was for at the shed.
@cvillarrealb
@cvillarrealb 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the BEST video I watched. I went through a lot of videos and this is definitely the most and well explained and detailed. Thank you guys so much. You really helped me a lot
@bwc2000
@bwc2000 2 жыл бұрын
It's like way over my head with this voltage stuff..but it's actually nice to have someone talk about electric now in this old house
@mfsolutions
@mfsolutions 4 жыл бұрын
I am not an electrician but I have wired 5 houses including panel/entrance under inspection so I know a bit about panels and subpanels. The only thing I have been asked to do better was put more putty in the conduit where the conductors enter the LB from outside. I can see this as a major problem especially with the elevation difference. cold metal cables in an open ended conduit means condensation... That lower junction box will fill with water... or did I miss the packing with putty?
@Gruntled2001
@Gruntled2001 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the difference in elevation and the pressure that water with that much head will create, it will push any putty out. You are much better off drilling a small drainage hole (or two) in the bottom of that LB. NEC says that too (to provide for proper drainage)
@MarshallSmith27
@MarshallSmith27 6 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was about 8 I got very lucky and my dad called me outside to help him (whenever he needed help which was a lot, I knew it was going to loads of fun) he said he needed help digging a trench from the house to the shop which was about 30 yards. To make a long story short I got to dig the trench while he sat and watched, it sucked lol
@leegenix
@leegenix 3 жыл бұрын
*I paid my nephew to help dig holes for fence posts after I hurt my back. I ended up doing most of the work, though. We had lots of beer breaks, snacks, and gave him $200 plus gas money. On Monday morning he calls and asks for a loan. He doesn't call anymore.*
@boedillard8807
@boedillard8807 3 жыл бұрын
My father had my brother and me help with lots of projects - no regrets working on any of them with him.
@alexpettersson957
@alexpettersson957 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing ever gets built on schedule or within budget. ⚌⚌ twitter.com/a054sd/status/1389636166585143300 !💖🖤❤️今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上,強者,富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落,氏族,城鎮,城市和鄉村中的弱者,無`'守和貧窮成員。然而,人類的生存意願迫使那些被拒絕,被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式,並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物,不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反,他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔,切塊,調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類,在食品市場上被忽略的部分家用蔬菜和肉類,並且學會了使用芳香的木煙(如山核桃,山核桃和豆科灌木 來調味g食物煮
@whithull5211
@whithull5211 3 жыл бұрын
I worked as a lifeguard at a lake beach when I was 17, and literally on the hottest day of the summer, they made us dig fence posts for a mud volleyball tournament.
@s.pearson6887
@s.pearson6887 2 жыл бұрын
Classic!
@miltonnegron65
@miltonnegron65 4 жыл бұрын
Great job !!!
@JayDee-xj9lu
@JayDee-xj9lu 6 жыл бұрын
I would have a added a conduit from the floor junction box up to the fuse box in the shed. Something slides down the wall and hits it and it would fail. Also I love the way he says there is lots of room. I don't call that a shed it's more like a kids cubby house. You don't even have enough room to change your mind in there. But whatever, if you just want to store a lawnmower amd spade, it's fine.
@TheThorpester
@TheThorpester 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! First bit reminded me of the bit in the Step Brothers film when they make their beds into bunks lols
@markthompson4099
@markthompson4099 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend the panel outside with a main breaker for less than 6 throws of the hand. It is code.
@nervousordo
@nervousordo 2 жыл бұрын
English please.
@garybrown7044
@garybrown7044 2 жыл бұрын
the n.e.c. requires a main @ the sub-panel as shown. the n.e.c. is the minimum requirements, yes! to the ground. dont forget the gfci's.
@lydialas8756
@lydialas8756 Жыл бұрын
@Hello mark how are you doing
@Danny-fs1hk
@Danny-fs1hk 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool video!
@UFOGHOSTHUNTER
@UFOGHOSTHUNTER 4 жыл бұрын
I installed solar powered motion detector lights in my shed. I don't go too often back there at night anyway. Plus I saved $$$$
@penguin12902
@penguin12902 4 жыл бұрын
Same. Its awesome. Little inverter and I can charge my kids toys and battery tools
@cudatom9290
@cudatom9290 3 жыл бұрын
Whats up with the concrete 2" from the surface? So you can always know where the trench was by the color of the grass.
@mikel4510
@mikel4510 6 жыл бұрын
"Real steep incline..." does that mean the electricity will struggle to get up hill and fall back to the house before it gets to the stuff inside the shed? Will that electrocute the worms and moles?
@haroldofcardboard
@haroldofcardboard 4 жыл бұрын
very good points. maybe they are using very strong electric magnets at the shed. and they put that red warning tape underground so the worms and voles will know.
@lisamagyar4537
@lisamagyar4537 4 жыл бұрын
True
@jaytea23
@jaytea23 4 жыл бұрын
They just need to use a pump to help the electricity up the hill
@stuckinmygarage6220
@stuckinmygarage6220 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaytea23 Solar? Battery? Gas??? LOL
@TheHeadlessHorseman
@TheHeadlessHorseman 4 жыл бұрын
@@jaytea23 A guy I knew once use an air compressor line hard plumbed into the electric line near the end which the pressure of the air would create a venturi effect and allow the electricity to flow smoothly up the hill. Before he did this, the electric was sitting there pooling
@j.aguilar8430
@j.aguilar8430 4 жыл бұрын
The trench I believe is for the new fondation twin tower's awesome 😉
@peterkavan8368
@peterkavan8368 3 жыл бұрын
my inspector said the ground rod is only needed if you have more than 6 breakers, in which case with over 6 breakers you would want a main breaker in the garage panel. At 8:38 please use cable stackers so your romes is 1 1/4" away from the front and rear of the stud. At 8:43 you have 4 romex wires thru one bore hole. code allows only 3 wires per hole. At 6:56 ;you have a giant splice box, why not use another LB on tihe inside and continue the conduit all the way into the panel? Love the insulated connector at 7:22.
@thomasmorrison4540
@thomasmorrison4540 3 жыл бұрын
Ask your inspector for a code book reference. Because I’m here to tell you that it doesn’t exist
@mdm5216
@mdm5216 6 жыл бұрын
7:27 Why a junction here? Why not pull a couple more feet and hook it straight to the box?
@VadimDrevenchuk
@VadimDrevenchuk 4 жыл бұрын
Its easier to secure (staple one cable to the stud than to do this to all 4 wires individually... you will run out of room very quickly. Wires must always be secured and transitioning from 4 wires to 1 cable (with 4 wires inside) is a good option.
@andrewmeinders5712
@andrewmeinders5712 4 жыл бұрын
@@VadimDrevenchuk that comment shows you know nothing about wiring, a piece of pipe to the panel is the absolute best way to do it to eliminate a splice and potential to a future problem. You cannot staple the individual wires to the stud because it's not code to run that kind of wire exposed not do to lack of stud space. What they did is to code but kind of a less skillful way of doing it with the junction boxes a true Craftsman would be able to do that project without junctions.
@VadimDrevenchuk
@VadimDrevenchuk 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Meinders it all comes down to money. The more you spend... the better it look. You get better conductor, better raceway and better quality of labour. In residential settings, anything goes as long as they are 1 1/4 from the edge of the stud. If the cable is closer than 1 1/4 edge of the stud, NEC, Article 300.4 a steel plates must be provided to protect cables closer from the edge of the wood framing member. This protects the wire when drywall is installed. These should be used in both vertical- and horizontal-bored hole applications where the metal plates cover the area in front of the hole where the wire runs through. I don’t see any rules prohibiting the amount of cables (NM cable) that are allowed to be stapled. If you know where it prohibits to staple more than one cable in the National Electrical Code Book, please share with me. I’m just a regular person, I make mistakes. But I agree with you, conduit would look better. And it’s more $€£¥
@michaelnichols5294
@michaelnichols5294 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, One more LB, a few feet of conduit and no splice box would have been needed. The way this guy did it was silly and wasted money. Looks amateurish as well.
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si 3 жыл бұрын
Vadim D you can’t staple THHN wire to a stud, idiot. He wasn’t even suggesting that in the first place. He’s asking why the electrician didn’t continue running the pipe into the shed and connect it right to the panel. It’s a good question and that’s what I would have done.
@procrastinator41
@procrastinator41 4 жыл бұрын
How many saw thumbnail and thought: "He's gonna make the homeowner dig that trench with a shovel"
@diyingxiang7521
@diyingxiang7521 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos for the video content! Sorry for butting in, I would appreciate your initial thoughts. Have you tried - *WoodBlueprints. Com* It is a great one of a kind guide for building better sheds and woodworking without the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my cousin finally got astronomical success with it.?
@luckymex58
@luckymex58 6 жыл бұрын
Yes 18 inches below ground but then you still have to add the thickness of your pipe that way your conduit can remain 18 in below ground
@ratchet219
@ratchet219 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice job,
@belfast479
@belfast479 4 жыл бұрын
If in Massachusetts, 24" deep. Whole new ballgame.
@emmett3067
@emmett3067 7 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a home owner thinking about the future and the job being done well.
@nicholashartzler2205
@nicholashartzler2205 7 жыл бұрын
You mean digging a trench and running one 20 amp circuit would be stupid? Actually he should have ran another two 3/4 conduit just for the hell of it. And I hope theres already water up there.
@donmotz5528
@donmotz5528 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice job...
@poppiarlin5612
@poppiarlin5612 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen where direct burial wire was laid, then a small layer of dirt, then conduit. The conduit provides a warning and extra protection.
@tcliff1
@tcliff1 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh, I find it hard to believe the fish tape went through that easy :)
@adambrown3918
@adambrown3918 4 жыл бұрын
It's easy to push through when there's nothing in the conduit. He could have made it even easier by taking off the receptacle heads before pushing it through. Either way; job done.m! Also the thin black conduit he had the wires coming out of the junction box to the sub-panel? Probably should have been through a 1 inch sealtight for safety and electrical compliance because of the wire gauge?
@mattheww2797
@mattheww2797 4 жыл бұрын
@@adambrown3918 That wasn't conduit coming up to the panel it was just 4/4 or 6/4 wire
@michaelthebarbarian3380
@michaelthebarbarian3380 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorta shocked he bothered to pull the rope. I would have just pulled the conductor with the fish tape on a run that short.
@foxfiresidechats5227
@foxfiresidechats5227 4 жыл бұрын
Master Electrician goes to work in the morning. Comes Home. “So what did you do at work today honey”. 90 percent landscape, 10 percent electrical.
@thomasmorrison4540
@thomasmorrison4540 3 жыл бұрын
That’s how it goes.
@dallas5374
@dallas5374 3 жыл бұрын
Hire an illegal to dig.
@electricaf365
@electricaf365 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the way it is sometimes
@troybermudez9269
@troybermudez9269 Жыл бұрын
Great job guys)))
@mikelivesay5639
@mikelivesay5639 3 жыл бұрын
In the future you could’ve use the vibratory plow Vermeer LM 42 or a Ditch Witch 410 Sx And plowed in either direct bury cable or a 2 inch conduit PVC when you got done there’s no trenching there’s no mess barely can tell that she put it in and you can go easily 24 inches deep
@juanvaldo666
@juanvaldo666 4 жыл бұрын
That home needed a panel upgrade MPU from 100 amps to 200 amps.
@skiterbite
@skiterbite 4 жыл бұрын
I have 100amp in the garage, Just in case....
@josephkilleen7807
@josephkilleen7807 4 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing! 100A ain't nothing anymore! Had ours done last year, about $1000 upgrade...
@skiterbite
@skiterbite 4 жыл бұрын
@canuckguy worried Great to know we have plenty of juice for electrical needs! Ice Hockey fan?
@skiterbite
@skiterbite 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephkilleen7807 Here in Fredericksburg VA, $1000 for a heavy up would be a deal.
@skiterbite
@skiterbite 4 жыл бұрын
@canuckguy worried Ice Hockey?
@ru2388
@ru2388 4 жыл бұрын
6:07 "The little brown eel comes out of the cave, swims into the hole, comes out of the hole..."
@gw2macken757
@gw2macken757 4 жыл бұрын
Good one guys.
@thatguy7881
@thatguy7881 7 жыл бұрын
so much work
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