Forced air is nice to have, but you don't need it.. We cure ours on the slowest speed without forced air and it takes 1:30min through the dryer and it cures the ink just fine 👍 ours has a 4' heating element and have no issues.
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right and I probably should have worded that better. Lots of people cure shirts with a non-forced air drier. Pinning this...
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
I had considered using Virus inks, in particular their wet on wet CMYK inks, and they were a little discouraging. I was told I need a gas drier with a longer tunnel and an automatic at the time we still had the manual. Still might give it a try, but they're pricey.
@crumptees5 жыл бұрын
@@mikeydesignssilkscreen473 i have heard that the washability is not that good.
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
@@crumptees Good to know. Not trying to make clients unhappy and waste money.
@Cool_Papa_Funk5 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to find the right combination of belt speed and temp to fully cure in one pass (we also have a 4' chamber, but I think we have forced air). What temp do you get the shirts up to?
@AWOL19692 жыл бұрын
Great video I’m 54 yrs old and I wish I had started learning about screen printing in the early 80’s and made it my career choice but it’s never too late I’m learning now and it will be my retirement hobby. Thank you and have a great day.
@blackfileNepal5 ай бұрын
Indeed young man!
@CatspitProductions5 жыл бұрын
Sweet, nice video. As for curing this ink it really does not need to be in the oven for up to 3 minutes. As long as you reach temp throughout the ink layer you should be fine. I cure mine at about 300 plus degrees and send it through the standard infrared belt dryer once. But that's after they went under an air flash on press. I think the ink takes a little getting used to because it's kinda like cake frosting. But so far everyone is loving this product. There will always be those who prefer something else however ;)
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
Awesome feedback, Jonathan! Thanks for sharing your tips on the curing the ink. Always more than one way to skin a cat. ;) What are your thoughts on the hand after washing the ink?
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
I hope this video demystifies some common concerns about screen printing white water based ink on black shirts. Don't be afraid of water based screen printing!
@HumanBeanOfficialАй бұрын
thank you for putting this together!
@TonyPaddock2 ай бұрын
Great Video. Thanks. I know very little. Question: Is water based ink an issue on polyester. I am gearing up to screen print on polyester felt. Any thoughts? I like the idea of curing at the lower temps than plastisol.
@coolplanetrelaxation95295 жыл бұрын
I'm back. Sorry the time out ,guys, i was working my music channel out. This is me now, formerly known as Richoo. Thanks Mike and Shan for another kick ass. video. 🤘✌🤙
@tainoink5 жыл бұрын
Wow! The opacity looks really good. I am looking to do waterbased print for the first time so I will go and use your promo code to get that ink and at the same time save $5.00. 👍Thanks Matt.
@shermarketadi3900 Жыл бұрын
If you ever do another of these: it would be nice to see a successfully cured example where you run it twice on cotton and get the bright result. Also following up and comparing to a control after that first wash
@jayllicampo972 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for sharing this video! God bless you bro! 😊🔥
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4732 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@kingburgerkiler4 жыл бұрын
How many prints can you make with the amount of ink you used in the video?
@Ungalfo2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I've been following your cruze build, didnt know you have a screen printing channel too!
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4732 жыл бұрын
LOL! Yeah, been doing it for a while now. :) This is how I make my living.
@slavesong Жыл бұрын
is it possible to cure it by letting it air dry?? if yes, i know it would take a long time but i’m just trying to be cost effective because i’m just starting out thanks, and also nice vid!
@nineoneoh4 жыл бұрын
I've ben using the same white from Catspit and have had success. I have had some issues with modeling and the ink drying really quick. Other than that it is a nice white and covers well. I haven't done much to test the curing as far as washing the shirts.
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4734 жыл бұрын
Nice! Did it sit up a white when it molded?
@tonyfdesign5 жыл бұрын
Great info. Would love to see print number 14, when the ink starts to dry in the screen. Then on print 17 when the screen starts to stick to the shirt.
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
You got it! Keep an eye out for that video.
@sakahex. Жыл бұрын
hello,new to this and i have a question about how you stick the t shirt on the station?
@victorgomez282 Жыл бұрын
Which mesh did you use? I am struggling a little with the ink drying fast. I just switched to water based. Covers completely different but 100% easier to clean.
@victorgomez282 Жыл бұрын
Just caught the part where you used 110.
@Factory928AC4 жыл бұрын
Mike, say I used this waterbase PFP as an underbase , how long do you flash in order to move on to lay plastisol on top of it? Then what’s the cure time for a mix of waterbase and plastisol print?
@sbaiyassine9302 жыл бұрын
I wonder is it necessary to use flash to cure the plastisol ink? And why dont we use plastisol as a white underbase?
@TheInkBuildUp5 жыл бұрын
Cool print. 👍
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@frankyfreedomsp89745 жыл бұрын
Nice print!
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@natesheppard25914 жыл бұрын
Stupid question from a newbie. How or what best practice is there to line the screen up after you flash so it lines correctly on the shirt? Are blends not recommended for bright colors when using wb ink?
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4734 жыл бұрын
No question is stupid in my opinion. You'll need to expose some registration marks in your screens so you can line them up. It can be any object really. Same place on each screen. Use registration color so it'll so up on all your screens in the same spot. You can do halftone blends with wb ink.
@mukunddaga14774 жыл бұрын
Cool print
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4734 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nomoreslogans3 жыл бұрын
Hi, there. I'm from Indonesia and I'm too late to learn screen printing, but I don't care lol. Right now, I'm using waterbased ink called "Matsui" (the character is like rubber and elastic). I don't know if you have used that kind of ink in there or not. But, based on the ink character that I use, should I go one hit (couple times) like what you did to get the vintage looks? I hope you read my comment, and have a time to reply it. Tons of thanks for the video!
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4732 жыл бұрын
Hello! I've heard of Matsui. Very popular Waterbased ink. How many times you hit it is up to you and how bright you want it. You could certainly do a print flash print to get a brighter white, or just print it and keep it more vintage looking.
@joshbrigman5784 жыл бұрын
that is a HEFTY amount of ink lmao. i used catspit plastisol, i never knew they made waterbased too
@danbarb97284 жыл бұрын
Hey, i am doring sublimation and HTV as a hobby and now i want to check out screen printing because i saw that first of all you can use your heat press and 2md you can use sign vinyl instead of thsoe UV coatings and third you can use water based inks. Since this is just for fun it should make fun, i saw videos about water based inks where the ink is drying within minutes and it was shown that you can not put the ink back in the original can once you used it. It water based ink really that bad or do you think you can print simple fonts with my method?
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4734 жыл бұрын
Water based is a great way to start, but you just need to back flood and the ink can dry up if you let it sit. You'll need to cure the ink just like plastisol to set it so it won't wash out. Waterbased inks take about 1.5-2 minutes in 330º heat to set and plastisol cures as soon as all the ink reaches 330º through out the film. Good luck and let us know if you have any questions!
@Simon_Pieman_AusАй бұрын
Hey Mikey - what screen carousel system was that one?
@mikeydesignssilkscreen47316 күн бұрын
It's a M&R. Forget the model name. Genesis or something like that.
@kalenburns41902 жыл бұрын
is it possible to flash with a heat gun? im waiting to get more money to buy a flash thingy.
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4732 жыл бұрын
yes, but will take a really long time. I would suggest investing in a flash. Will save you time.
@benjamin-fr9bj2 жыл бұрын
Can you use a flash curer or do you need a air dryer system for water based ink?
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4732 жыл бұрын
You could use a flash with a blow dryer but it would be slow. Force air, or a gas dryer would be best.
@commensheadquarters4 жыл бұрын
Am a newbie in screen printing from Ghana. Please am mostly into water based for now. I print using the "baby oil technique"( printing on paper) Please how do you do the mesh count?? (Though I have the plastisol ink and I have tried to use to design but I wasn't able to cure it properly. I used a hand dryer for the curing.)
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4734 жыл бұрын
The higher the number, the less ink it'll allow through, and the more detail the screen will hold. You'll have to judge based off of the type of work you do. For paper, high mesh counts will work better. 305.
@P0TK1LLS Жыл бұрын
how long do they stay in the oven ? im kinda having problems with curing my white wb ink
@SurajSinghTomarArya4 жыл бұрын
Was this discharge ink ?
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4734 жыл бұрын
It was a standard opaque water based ink.
@tamavaiaku665 жыл бұрын
nice video..👍👍
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tama!
@mr.zooomy4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that you can use 1 design on 1 screen using 2 colors? the first is water based black ink and the other is white. The Ink always gets clogged so I end up removing the design and chaging it to a new one. Need Help.
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4734 жыл бұрын
David Can. Got you covered in my previous comment.
@rsofficial133 жыл бұрын
Nice
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4733 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@itsbuttababbyyy23702 жыл бұрын
How'd you get your logo is is copy paper or ??
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4732 жыл бұрын
I used transparency film with an inkjet printer.
@hotwheelsreviews95823 жыл бұрын
Can you put sublimation transfer on a white water base
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4733 жыл бұрын
I don't believe so. I would try discharge because it removes the dye out of the shirt.
@l.a.the.w30265 жыл бұрын
Best mech count for water based inks?
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4735 жыл бұрын
Depends on the color. For color inks / overlay colors, 200-230. For a base (depending on the ink type HSA, etc.) I would say 156-195.
@mushtaqali93302 жыл бұрын
How to print a red color watar based on black t shirt
@colinmurphy81193 жыл бұрын
No mention of ink retarder/ other additives to stop the ink from sticking to the screen
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4733 жыл бұрын
Not needed for this ink.
@bonifaciojrjacintos75604 жыл бұрын
Forgot to flood
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4734 жыл бұрын
:) you caught me. Filming can be distracting.
@juangaytan91034 жыл бұрын
what mesh count for that design?
@mikeydesignssilkscreen4734 жыл бұрын
We used a 195 or 200. Thanks for watching!
@Jchot2 жыл бұрын
"pro screen printers" absolutely kill me. They spend so much on chemicals, machines and supplies that promise high quality and flawless prints, then INTENTIONALLY include ink/screen defects in the design. wat
@Jchot2 жыл бұрын
no direct insults, just a funny ubiquitous concept I noticed.