How to Set Your Paddle Feather For Maximum Performance

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Canterbury Kayaking

Canterbury Kayaking

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@janbjorkman3279
@janbjorkman3279 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who knows what he is talking about 😃
@davidGrainger
@davidGrainger 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very complete and correct discussion. The only thing not discussed is control hand and non-control hand. The control hand holds the shaft without allowing the shaft to turn or rotate in the hand. The shaft MUST turn in the NON-control hand during the recovery, while both blades are in the air. During this demo the right hand is the control hand, and the shaft is free to rotate in the left non-control hand while both blades are in the air. The only time when the left hand grips the shaft firmly is when the left blade is in the water, during the left side power stroke.
@Airship17
@Airship17 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I didn't get from the video was the start of the process. What angle to the direction of travel is the right side blade at when you initially clamp your hand on the right side of the shaft. Do you put the right blade in the water at right-angles to the direction of travel as the starting point for this procedure? That's the only thing that seems to make sense to me. (below is for right-handed paddler) So, (1) right blade in the water, plane of blade at right angles to the direction of travel (=long axis of boat), right wrist neutral, paddle shaft at your usual height/angle for a stroke on the right side, then (2) without changing grip with right hand, change to having paddle at correct position for left hand stroke, with right wrist neutral, then rotate centre joint so that left blade is at right angles to long axis of boat? So the right hand grip (which never changes) is wrist neutral when pulling on the right stroke or pushing on the left stroke, and the left blade is set so it is at the correct angle when in the water on the left. The left hand has to allow the shaft to rotate during recovery (grip loosens) but the blades will be at the correct angle when entering the water on right or left, and the right wrist is neutral when on each side, pushing or pulling. Is that correct?
@davidGrainger
@davidGrainger 2 жыл бұрын
@@Airship17 1) right blade in the water, plane of blade at right angles to the direction of travel (=long axis of boat), right wrist neutral, paddle shaft at your usual height/angle for a stroke on the right side, then I think that's correct. Only thing I'd add is, both wrists stay neutral throughout the stroke. (2) without changing grip with right hand, change to having paddle at correct position for left hand stroke, with right wrist neutral, then rotate centre joint so that left blade is at right angles to long axis of boat? Please define "centre joint" neither wrist deviates from neutral ever. So the right hand grip (which never changes) is wrist neutral when pulling on the right stroke or pushing on the left stroke, and the left blade is set so it is at the correct angle when in the water on the left. The left hand has to allow the shaft to rotate during recovery (grip loosens) but the blades will be at the correct angle when entering the water on right or left, and the right wrist is neutral when on each side, pushing or pulling. Both wrists stay neutral at all times on both sides. With right hand control the shaft rotates in the left hand just after the left exit, as the left hand comes up after the left blade leaves the water. The shaft rotates in the left hand again at the right exit, as the right hand comes up after the right blade leaves the water, just before the left blade enters the water.
@RonK
@RonK 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent !!! This makes sooo much more sense rather than the simple air resistance thing. Never understood why that bit of air would matter so much e.g. during recreational kayaking. But not damaging your wrist, this makes realllllly sense - thanks a ton!!
@aussie6639
@aussie6639 4 жыл бұрын
As a completely beginner, I had no idea, thanks for the information
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Max!
@manraven1
@manraven1 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, best explanation I found to understand how to set the paddle feather. Thanks from Germany!
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words here Mike! Sam.
@stephenfenwick9832
@stephenfenwick9832 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, had no idea really .... off to Kayak and test
@tonybrown9779
@tonybrown9779 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense and so does Oscar Chalupsky who advocates a zero feather angle. So which way do you go? I've gone from 60 to zero and enjoying the symmetry of zero. How do you rationalise these opposing views?
@Bonkylikestopaddle
@Bonkylikestopaddle Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sorting me out bro. Had no idea wtf I was doing. Huge difference now.
@alanmccormick8503
@alanmccormick8503 3 жыл бұрын
Good simple Kiwi Advice. No where else has it been explained that the height of you upper hand depicts the feathering of the lower blade. Cheers mate
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Alan. Hope it helped your paddling! Sam
@jeanlaliberte1469
@jeanlaliberte1469 3 жыл бұрын
thx for this..got my canoe paddle done... i was thinking to make a my kayak paddle at 30 degrees.. realizing now that may not be adequate..
@howlingheath
@howlingheath 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Helped out a newbie from Alabama...
@jfoz7602
@jfoz7602 4 жыл бұрын
Best video I’ve found on this subject. Thanks
@oldroydc
@oldroydc 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@waterbourne9282
@waterbourne9282 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. Sea kayaker, high stroke, 65 deg is what I'd settled on too.
@ALoonwolf
@ALoonwolf 3 жыл бұрын
This is perfectly logical and reasonable. Making it more difficult to use by setting it at 90 degrees because of "less wind resistance" is just ridiculous. But I'm not surprised one bit that the mainstream teaching method tells everybody to do this.
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly
@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. I prefer 0 degrees, but I paddle flat water with a low angle stroke, and feathering always seem to make it more difficult, less efficient, and made my wrists sore. Now I understand why.
@slabbyrider8665
@slabbyrider8665 2 жыл бұрын
I shall get out my paddle later and have a look. Makes me glad in my newbie confusion I opted for a fully adjustable paddle.
@jimwortham8634
@jimwortham8634 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for video Ben kayak paddling long time I just preferred the normal way to each his own board Chevrolet Harley-Davidson Honda long enjoy
@glenscott4483
@glenscott4483 4 жыл бұрын
Great detail
@Iaapwm
@Iaapwm 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation, very much appreciated from Lismore NSW Australia.
@michaelnelson3469
@michaelnelson3469 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I think I finally understand!
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Awesome to hear that Michael :) Happy paddling. Sam
@navalcomand1981
@navalcomand1981 18 күн бұрын
That's a darn excellent information mate, thank you so much
@nealejones9237
@nealejones9237 3 жыл бұрын
Best way i've seen this explained! Cheers bud
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words Neale!
@rommelrivera1186
@rommelrivera1186 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this video. I intend to paddle at high angle with the big Werner Corryvreckan blades. Your instructions will help me dial in the best offset for me. Thank you! Sub'd.
@nickherbert5812
@nickherbert5812 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting and well presented / explained. Thanks. I'll try it out...
@NS56sn
@NS56sn 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for breaking that down!
@martindellatorre7498
@martindellatorre7498 4 жыл бұрын
Excelent explanation!
@Caper1960
@Caper1960 6 жыл бұрын
I wondered how that worked, thanks!
@brucegraham6909
@brucegraham6909 6 жыл бұрын
I liked the explanation and generally agree with the logic, particularly in relation to sweep strokes compared to sprint style strokes where the blade in the water is close to the craft and more vertical.
@Alastair510
@Alastair510 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation and description.
@wisenber
@wisenber Жыл бұрын
I made an Aleut paddle with a spine on one face. It self indexes when it hits the water. If you don't have a death grip on your paddle, an Aleut blade will move into the optimum position without feather or any wrist movement high or low angle.
@terrenceward925
@terrenceward925 4 жыл бұрын
This is really good thank you, Loved the simplicity of your explanation.
@rabbit5717
@rabbit5717 3 жыл бұрын
So. I was wondering yesterday whilst out on the water for 7 hours fishing, about the 3 paddle positions. This video proves my experiment. I found out as he points out as you'll see. I had also noticed more stroke power in the paddle.
@davemann1036
@davemann1036 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm new to kayaking and have been using a fixed 65% feathered paddle but just changing to an adjustable. This has helped me understand how to set it up! Thanks again
@JimsonMakes
@JimsonMakes 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation Cheers Jim
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim!
@MrChrismccooey
@MrChrismccooey 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great explanation
@Synnovations
@Synnovations 3 жыл бұрын
Stan, so many thanks for making this video! It really helped me to improve my technique!
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@tobofilm
@tobofilm 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely and competently explained. Thank you.
@GoodRedBlackRatio
@GoodRedBlackRatio 4 жыл бұрын
dude great explanation thank you!!
@judithhedges955
@judithhedges955 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@dipimage1935
@dipimage1935 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't understand this until now. Thank you. Using a doubled paddle for an inflating Itiwit kayak for 2 people with backpacks, so the boat is kind of wide, depending on the place where you stay in it. I give to the girl the front seat to be narrower and I am taking the back seat, so the boat is bigger near me. One not so serious stroke of mine is equivalent to 3 strokes of hers. I have to feather the water to be sincronus :P
@gerrytoomey5002
@gerrytoomey5002 4 жыл бұрын
great video
@elizabeththomas8098
@elizabeththomas8098 Жыл бұрын
This is brilliant: so helpful. Thank you so much.
@Jimmcgregorphotography
@Jimmcgregorphotography 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic info. Just picked up my Itiwit adjustable paddles. This video was ver helpful for me. Thank you for posting
@JABTV2008
@JABTV2008 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, mate!!! Thanks, I'll try another angle and let you know how it goes.
@gringo19860
@gringo19860 3 ай бұрын
Finally...😊 Thanks matey
@HighGear7445
@HighGear7445 2 жыл бұрын
New to kayaking (strip built my own) and have wondered about the reason for feathering. The first time out I was set at 0 degree and it seemed off somehow. I reset to 45 degree (my only choices were 45 or 90) and it seemed more natural. I have built a wood paddle at 0 degree (haven't tried it yet) here in the off season and will have to put my thinking cap on to build one with an offset. Thanks for explaining the reason for feathering.
@geoffworrall2592
@geoffworrall2592 4 жыл бұрын
great explanation--thanks
@richardskip
@richardskip 4 жыл бұрын
Thnx. Very informative.
@joekovach1654
@joekovach1654 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mate... Sweet AS..!
@gw6797
@gw6797 3 ай бұрын
Excellent info
@donaldmiller5524
@donaldmiller5524 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks!!!
@GregSmithPhD
@GregSmithPhD 3 жыл бұрын
Makes very good sense. I'm on 30 degrees but I paddle with a low stroke due to shoulder problems.
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me Greg. Good luck with that shoulder mate. Sam
@Paul66Videos
@Paul66Videos 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanations. Thanks very much.
@start2paddle
@start2paddle 2 жыл бұрын
The explanation is mostly right, except that one can perfectly paddle with a 90 degrees feather. I have been doing so for nearly 40 years now, injury free etc. Although I must admit, I use different angles for different types of paddling. Canoepolo is 90 degrees feather as this makes goalkeeping a lot easier. What is missing in the explanation is body rotation. It is not just lifting the hand, the upper body is also rotated, thus moving the top hand across the deck. For a very good explanation of how this is done, have a look at Ivan Lawlers excellent technique series (channel name is Ultimate Kayaks). Oh, and join a club if you can, you will get loads of tips like these! ;-)
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input :) Sam.
@okuma7713
@okuma7713 5 жыл бұрын
very nice,thank you!
@Ktok74
@Ktok74 2 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful. Thank you. How long should my paddle be?
@клубтуристовМЕДВЕДЬКамчатка
@клубтуристовМЕДВЕДЬКамчатка 6 ай бұрын
Спасибо, все предельно ясно и доходчиво.
@WillN2Go1
@WillN2Go1 5 жыл бұрын
To support your first argument. Water is almost 800x denser than air, so air resistance is negligible. I've paddled directly into some pretty stiff, maybe 20 knot, winds. I've feathered a paddle once in 14 years, by mistake in a predawn launch. (Which is interesting because without knowing my blades were 10-15 degrees offset I just adapted to it, When I caught my mistake and went to my usual zero-no feather, and that took a dozen strokes to readapt.) 2:26 "The answer is to do this with your wrist." That's why I don't feather my paddle. I don't claim expertise on feathering or say it's wrong, I've just never seen any reason to do it. Do I have a hold hand and a loose hand? I don't think so. Your video would be a lot more effective if you were in your kayak on the water. I think at one point you had your left blade feathered in the opposite direction.
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting comment. If you are using zero feather and not getting bending at the wrists then it makes sense for you not have a "control hand" and a loose hand. I would describe this as having essentially 2 control hands and you most likely swap control hands in the central point as you swap sides of your stroke. This is great for sea kayaking (not my area of expertise at all) but less ideal for river paddling. I agree I would like to do a similar video with better visuals. I never thought a quick rant in the backyard would get so many views! I don't think I would have had my left blade back to front. For me this would feel like having my shoes on the wrong feet - maybe even worse :)
@maricallo6143
@maricallo6143 Жыл бұрын
Found out on my first kayak test that rotating the paddle automatically when angling it is probably the primary reason for paddle feathering.
@ytnsanw
@ytnsanw 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I'm off to sit and tist my fither...
@jeffreyelliott622
@jeffreyelliott622 Ай бұрын
Oh and don't forget to use your peddle when you go do that !! Hahahaha !!!
@mpopov69
@mpopov69 6 жыл бұрын
Here is an alternative view and a demonstration. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYC9n3iGjdlokKc The key idea in my demonstration is that with 0 feather, the control hand switches at each stroke (in contrast to the demonstration here that uses a right-hand control 100% of the time). I demonstrate that the hand alignment is exactly the same at 0 feather vs. any other feather angle. Meaning, the feather angle does not mess-up the hand alignment. Also, high angle vs. low angle paddle position does not correlate to the need for different feather angles, it just results in more angle between the planes of the hands at high angle vs. a smaller hand offset a low angle. Both these points I think are a fundamental disagreement with this explanation here :) My take: feather angle choice is not primarily a matter of maintaining anatomically correct hand alignment, nor is it related to the paddle angle vs. the water (high or low angle paddling style). It would be if the "control hand" is 100% control vs. letting the other hand control the blade twist a little or as much as 50% of the time. If you are used to controlling the paddle with one hand only, it takes time to let go off this habit and learn to let both hands alternate control proportionally to your chosen feather angle: at 0 degree feather you get each hand be a control hand exactly half the time; at 60 degree feather one hand is dominant but not fully controlling. Effectively, my take is that any feather angle can be used and still maintain perfect anatomic position of the hands at any paddle angle (high or low angle position). So feathering should be primarily driven by other considerations, IMO, not hand alignment or paddle angle to the water as stated here in this video.
@andrespagan4400
@andrespagan4400 3 жыл бұрын
Well done ..cheers🍺 Thank you.
@willcravens2893
@willcravens2893 6 жыл бұрын
It also sounds like the adjustable paddles are more adaptable to different paddling enviroments from one trip to the next. One can adjust the angle to suit the types of strokes primarily used on anyone one particular outting and location.
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with that Will. I love having an adjustable paddle for everything except hard white-water.
@garyvanremortel5218
@garyvanremortel5218 4 жыл бұрын
Precisely. High angle paddling I use 60deg, later in the day or low angle paddling 45deg.
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for your input Gary. Happy paddling. Sam
@bluebellriver6990
@bluebellriver6990 7 жыл бұрын
Very good! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I found my feather thru trial and error (30 degs). In a way, does this negate the need for a bent shaft?
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm glad you liked this. A bent shaft is designed to reduce the side-to-side movements in the wrists, while blade feather effects the rolling front-and-back motion of the wrists. Sam.
@bluebellriver6990
@bluebellriver6990 7 жыл бұрын
Canterbury Kayaking Ltd ok thank you!
@Mikaci_the_Grand_Duke
@Mikaci_the_Grand_Duke 3 жыл бұрын
Half of what you said is right, there is a natural rotation of your arms and wrist as your body turns, and as you lower one arm and put high the other. It's also true, that the angle is dependent from how high/low your arms are, and how strong you rotate your body. So far so good. Now the problem is, that you'll have to do everything on the opposite side too, making the whole rotation to the opposit direction, with a negative angle. There is no way, to avoid rotating your wrists, and you'll have to rotate them more if the angle is higher. Unsurprisingly, you didn't show how your wrist is "not" rotated if you turn to the right side immediately, after you fixed the clamp as you rotated your body left. Why don't you try not fixing the clamp at all, and let the two sides of the paddle turn clockwise and counterclockwise as you move your body and arms to the left and right sides? You'll see how that will really solve the problem of twisting your wrists. Actually you achieve with feathered blades more efficient stokes due to better angle of attack and yes, that boring "less wind resistance" too, but you'll pay with more twisting movements of your wrists as you increase the angle.
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting comment. I like the idea behind leaving the paddle un-clamped, however I wouldn't personally like this for paddling in the river and particularly in white-water (which is what I do most often). For me the right stroke isn't an issue because when paddling "right handed" I allow my left hand to swivel on the paddle shaft after taking a left stroke, then re-grip as my right blade catches the water. So I can set my left wrist into a perfectly neutral position before activating power into my right stroke. Thanks once again for the comment, I hope I understood your point and I explained mine clearly. Sam.
@gemmaophillips923
@gemmaophillips923 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve just started kayaking I’m self teaching myself I keep spinning round 180 degrees when I’m paddling I had my paddle set at zero degrees im hoping a paddle adjustment will remedy this,! Thanks
@getbounced_8702
@getbounced_8702 4 жыл бұрын
Did it work?
@slabbyrider8665
@slabbyrider8665 2 жыл бұрын
We need an update on this
@SeanMorley100
@SeanMorley100 7 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@TheKayakCrew
@TheKayakCrew 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the explanation. I like to use wide inflatable kayaks for stability. I am looking to buy a wider paddle (240cm to 250cm width) to avoid fouling the paddle on the sides of the kayak as I paddle. I guess a wider paddle will mean that the paddle stroke will be a bit lower (compared to the shorter paddle I currently use). Does this mean that I would be better with a zero or low feather angle on the paddle?
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree with that. I'd suggest trying a lower feather angle of around 15-20 degrees.
@ericolsen3293
@ericolsen3293 6 жыл бұрын
Mind blown!
@Chopbreaka
@Chopbreaka 7 жыл бұрын
Good information thx . Does this formula also work for a bent shaft paddle ?
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 7 жыл бұрын
Yes it should be the same with a bent/crank shaft
@marchamilton7668
@marchamilton7668 4 жыл бұрын
What a great explanation! - thank you.
@jeronimojejehd
@jeronimojejehd 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@CCRAPresearch
@CCRAPresearch 2 жыл бұрын
This is useful information. But it should have been mentioned that to "dial in" your appropriate feather angle, the control upper hand (right in this video) needs to be aligned with its blade before neutralizing the wrist to find the best angle. Knuckles of control hand should be aligned with the top of the blade.
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 2 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. Thanks for sharing this thought.
@maxmcrae379
@maxmcrae379 3 жыл бұрын
As a kayak fisher in a relatively wide sit-on-top, a shallower stroke is inevitable, hence a much smaller degree is preferred?
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I suggest trying around the 20deg range and see how that goes for your wrist alignment.
@duncanjack2335
@duncanjack2335 Жыл бұрын
How much you rotate your body will also change the required angle. Your body was square on to the camera to do the video but would probably be more rotated in practice. Even more so if you were racing.
@williambrazil3760
@williambrazil3760 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video, what are your thoughts on switching feather between boats? I find myself in freestyle boats 90% of the time so I use 30 degrees as it is a good balance between the need for back strokes, stalls etc, while still being able to forward paddle. Then when I jump in my creek boat I keep 30 as the familiarity in a whitewater environment probably outweighs any efficiency (how many forward strokes but you take in a row creeking anyway?). I have access to sea kayaks tho and thinking of getting more into them, would you say running 60 is a better option there?
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend sticking with 30 for all your whitewater, as it sounds like you do currently. And yes I would suggest trying a higher feather for sea kayaking if you're paddling with a high angle stroke. I personally use 45deg Werner for my river running and creeking (I don't really play-boat) then go up to a 60deg Gara wing paddle for both sea kayaking and multiport paddling.
@williambrazil3760
@williambrazil3760 3 жыл бұрын
@@Canterburykayaking cheers, much appreciated
@peterflynn9123
@peterflynn9123 3 жыл бұрын
Goo info but you didn’t mention “lift” in the airborne blade catching maximum destabilising effect around 45 degrees....
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting...I'll have to do some thinking around this. Could you elaborate for us? Cheers, Sam.
@generationfunk
@generationfunk 5 жыл бұрын
this really looked like you were on to something until i noticed you were not rotating. When i tried it sitting in my seat my hand does not travel "across my body" to create that natural twist you are referring to because i have been taught to paddle with my abs and not my arms
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 5 жыл бұрын
You are correct to rotate at your torso. You definitely don't want to try to paddle with your abdominals alone (you probably don't). Try focusing on the combined movement of your hand raising, elbow bending, and torso rotation to notice the paddle feathering without wrist movement. It is not me that is "onto something" I'm merely trying to help the KZbin community think about / understand a known concept in our sport that is widely misunderstood. Sam.
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 5 жыл бұрын
@ I've never taken Kinesiology 101, but was present at kayaking 101 :) Torso rotation is super important but I wouldn't go so far to say its the most important thing. I know that focusing on anything but torso rotation tends to get experienced paddlers frustrated. What I aim to do with my coaching is get beginner long distance racers (multisport) to paddle more like K1 sprint paddlers. That's the technique I'm after (if I wasnt clear enough while standing in my backyard). We probably all agree on the same technique and probably paddle in a similar way, it's just the wording we explain differently. Sam.
5 жыл бұрын
@@Canterburykayaking Agreed. We are likely all on the same page. I should have given you more pause. An in-water demonstration would have been a great reinforcing teaching aid -- visual feedback is critical when good thoughts fail to register with trainees. Happy paddling!
@generationfunk
@generationfunk 5 жыл бұрын
@ I wish you were local to give me a paddling lesson. I have a new ski (my first from transitioning from a kayak) and wing paddle and im having great difficulties getting technique right
@daleretter5187
@daleretter5187 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think about self-feathering paddles? as at: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poeZe6Ori6-VjdE
@kayakell9200
@kayakell9200 Жыл бұрын
Greenland paddle, no feather issues at all. My wrists love it, end of.
@coreydw1
@coreydw1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, just started, and all rentals are at 0
@DinoAlberini
@DinoAlberini 4 жыл бұрын
left or right feather?
@govshill4557
@govshill4557 5 жыл бұрын
Fither?
@Bhamlunker
@Bhamlunker 6 жыл бұрын
im confused...im new surfski paddler to the sport...the high wrist/arm position in a proper stroke is fixed...your body rotation moves the paddle...your top hand should not move across your body...top hand remains fixed util the paddle exits...I find this all such an absurdly confusing subject...I paddle 15 degree or zero degree and find no ergonomic issues...I suppose complexity of various paddler "style"....but, when teaching paddle stroke, you teach a certain"fixed" form perhaps? zero degree is nice because it makes newbs doing brace stroke easier...many surfski coaches now seem to be asking newbs to keep zero degree for this reason so as to make bracing on either side (important) easier...many pros now say that the reason preference exist now has far more to do with dogma? Im new and am just baffled by the buffet of opinions lol..
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 6 жыл бұрын
Hi PharmGeek, Thanks for your feedback. I am sorry I couldn't make this clearer for you. I am humbled by how seriously you have taken my opinion on the subject. There are certainly a lot of moving (and non-moving) parts at play here, and what you fundamentally believe is "correct technique" may throw off the discussion entirely. So I understand your frustration. To answer some of your points: You are right, torso rotation drives the top arm/hand movement, and the torso and top arm/hand actually move very little relative to each other. I should have said "your top hand moves across the BOAT" not the body. Yes you can paddle with neutral wrists at zero degrees feather if you swap your control hand on every stroke at the mid-point.This guy here explains it in is living room (crazy how the best guys are always in their living room) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYC9n3iGjdlokKc. This is a different style to what I teach, and requires more skill and co-ordination (challenging for beginners). The style I predominantly teach involves keeping one had (the control hand) gripped on the shaft at all times, while the other swivels. For a right handed person, the right hand is normally the control (gripped) hand, and the left swivels. 15deg, fine, you can choose whatever angle you like, and use whatever style you like. So long as you are never applying power to the stroke with bent wrists (both top and bottom wrists must be neutral) you're golden. You are right, there is far more dogma than actual knowledge or understanding out there. Paddle-sports breed a lot of passion among those that do it, and that's a good thing!
@Bhamlunker
@Bhamlunker 6 жыл бұрын
Canterbury Kayaking Ltd thanks for that reply - I see how difficult this subject can be - very confusing haha - I saw your video last year as a refutation about wind cutting as a rationale - makes sense - I’ve seen folks talk about how the wing paddle makes the concern moot too - many moving pieces - so many points of minutia make up a forward stroke!!
@ztungaz
@ztungaz 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bhamlunker the video isn't clear to you because he left out what IMO is the most important part when explaining paddle feather: your right hand is your "control hand" and doesn't rotate on thr shaft while your left hand does...opposite if you're a lefty....so grab your paddle and do some simulated strokes with one hand firmly gripping the shaft and the other allowing the shaft to freely rotate and you'll understand exactly what he's explaining. and all that being said i paddle with no feather. I'm reasonably ambidextrous and find no need for it. i do sometimes use an indexed grip but also do just fine without.
@brad4908
@brad4908 5 жыл бұрын
Ta
@xscale
@xscale 3 жыл бұрын
Oscar Chalupsky in his brilliant surfski clinic at kzbin.info/www/bejne/hX23YZ9opstmd7M suggests that, with a modern wing paddle, zero degrees is the most efficient because that way you're ready to brace on both sides. Given you want a symmetrical stroke, I can't see why there would be any advantage to feathering any other way. Except if you're very experienced at doing it that way and your muscle memory will fight you if you try to change it suddenly. Chalupsky observes that his zero-feather students progress much faster than those with any larger feather. And, no offense intended, I think Chalupsky has sufficient credentials to back his opinion over this one.
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, thanks for the detailed comment and for providing more info to check out. I haven't yet watched the whole video of Oscar Chalupsky but it certainly looks interesting. No offence taken at all :)
@dedsert9653
@dedsert9653 4 жыл бұрын
how is it neutral to favour one wrist over the other? !!!!!
@Jimo368
@Jimo368 5 жыл бұрын
I call it offset.
@tazblink
@tazblink 5 жыл бұрын
This is only for a very high aggressive paddle style its not for all kayak situations. You make it sound as if you aren't paddling this way you are doing it wrong.
@ern510
@ern510 5 жыл бұрын
Who woulda new .... ill be going home and checking and adjusting my paddle .... shit i think mine is set up at 0 ... JAJAJAJAJAJA NooB
@floating-in
@floating-in 6 жыл бұрын
When Oscar Chalupaky says 0° feather is the way to go for new paddlers I'll take that to the bank.
@Iaapwm
@Iaapwm 6 жыл бұрын
When Oscar says 0 feather for new paddlers. He is addressing a balance issue and learning to brace...
@DavidHotz21
@DavidHotz21 Жыл бұрын
0 degree. I don't use top hand much
@pbr2424
@pbr2424 5 жыл бұрын
60 degrees and leave it alone.
@larsthorwald3338
@larsthorwald3338 Жыл бұрын
"piddle feethah?"
@malcolmpaull9324
@malcolmpaull9324 4 жыл бұрын
At summer camp got stuck with feathered paddle, got so use to it never used a normal paddle
@kohort1
@kohort1 5 жыл бұрын
but what happens when you dip your right side?
@Canterburykayaking
@Canterburykayaking 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Clarence. Thanks for your question. If you have a right handed paddle, then the offset of the blade only effects the orientation of the left blade - as the right had grips the paddle in the same place regardless of what you set your offset to. I hope that clarifies it. Sam.
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