How to Setup Your Drum Kit for Clone Hero - Clone Hero Drums for Dummies #3

Want to play the drums with Clone Hero? Follow this tutorial to setup and map your drum kit.
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Chapters
0:00 Introduction
1:00 Clone Hero Discord channel
1:57 Default Clone Hero mapping
2:22 Select controller
2:29 Configure MIDI Settings - Input Device
3:18 Configure MIDI Settings - Quick Setup
4:19 Default drum kit mapping
6:27 Configure MIDI Settings - Mappings
7:35 Guitar Hero and Rock Band differences
8:18 Guitar Hero mapping
9:21 Rock Band mapping
10:23 Switching between mappings
12:12 5-lane drums
12:39 2x Kick Modifier
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E-Drum Kit: Roland TD-1DMK V-Drums
Additional Crash: Roland CY-5 Expansion Pack
Pedal: Tama HP200PTW Iron Cobra 200 Power Glide
Beaters: drum-tec Sound-Absorbing-Beater x2
Throne: Tama HT130
Drumsticks: Vic Firth Freestyle 7A with Vic Firth UPT Universal Practice Tips
Dampening pads: Fazley CymMute with 5mm Polyether Foam
Noise eaters: Roland NE-10 x2 and Roland NE-1 x3
Custom Solymer Noise Isolation Platform
Clone Hero version: Public Test Build (PBT) v0.24.0.2591-master - mac
Video recording: OBS Studio 26.1.2 - mac
Video editing: Adobe Premiere Pro 2021
Audio microphone: Shure SM58
Audio interface: Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Headphones: Sony WH-CH700N
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[@CubeFace69]

Thanks so much! Thought this would take a day or two and a ton of cables I don't have, but nope with your 3 part video it took maybe 30 mins and a trip to my cable container!

[@project_mray]

Really glad it helped, more time for rockin'!

[@realicepick285]

What cables did you wind up with needing and what kit are you using?

[@CubeFace69]

@@realicepick285 I'm using a roland td25kv and all I needed was a USB type B

[@bbirdlilly9531]

After installing td11 module drivers and connecting using USB to USB, CH doesn't seem to recognize that anything is plugged in. Under midi controller, I have no options to select TD

[@Franckmort]

@@project_mray how to play clone hero drum mode without drum

[@project_mray]

Had to come back to my own video to setup CH drums on my new laptop :D

[@Badoopboop]

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[@RockBandPlayer84]

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[@dantarrant9141]

I've just spent 3 days trying to get this to work..... and now SUCCESS !!! ***I'm using Windows 10 and I had 2 midi controllers active on my system - Windows only allows ONE !! I disabled one driver, and my Yamaha GTX ekit is now recognised and works perfectly**** After I sorted that problem (and watched these 3 great tutorials...) it really does work Plug'n'Play. Thank you M-Ray !!!

[@ZMANSOX15]

Any chance you can help me. Similar setup you have. Yahama DTX500. Got a midi out to usb connected. Stuck on input device screen and nothing is popping up.

[@dufromage496]

@@ZMANSOX15 Is windows recognizing the kit? Check device manage to make sure you don't have any unrecognized devices. That's at least somewhere to start. Never used a midi to usb adapter/cable before, so not sure how reliable that method is.

[@Brandon_Moves_You]

Very helpful, couldn't figure out why the cymbals were hit or miss! Thank you so much.

[@Jefflock13]

I have everything hooked up (MIDI out to USB) and my computer and CH recognize my drums, but when i try to map it out, it doesnt detectthat im hitting the drums?

[@harpy2602]

I noticed while watching CH charts that the open hihats stayed on yellow and that there were different symbols for rimshots or accented notes in snare rolls. I grew up on RB drum kits and even with the double kick and cymbal expansions, it was limited. I LOVE how detailed you can get with clone hero mapping/play!

[@isoutil]

Hoping someone here can help me. The game is not actually letting me select my e-kit it shows up in the options of what midi controller to use, however doesnt actually select it. Any help on an older video would be a huge help. havent been able to receive assistance from the CloneHero discord as of yet.

[@snottytoe6957]

I got mine setup but now i have a weird issue that I can't find help for at all. My kit is a 200 dollar AODSK so it's a very cheap set. The issue I have is input ghosting, basically hitting multiple inputs at the same time will block certain inputs. For example, hitting the red snare and the yellow hihat cymbal at the same time will drop the hihat input, or if I am pressing down both of my pedals it will make the blue cymbal unresponsive completely until I let off the pedals. I don't know if it's a problem with the kit itself, the cable that connects it, or if it's some other issue.

[@bioniclefan1]

Not sure if it's something related to newer versions, but Clone Hero for me isn't showing my ekit as an option, let alone allowing me to set midi controls. Any advice?

[@bbirdlilly9531]

I'm in same boat. I stalled td11 module drivers. Connected USB to USB. CH doesn't seem to recognize that anything is plugged in. But windows sees it just fine

[@bioniclefan1]

@@bbirdlilly9531 I got it figured out. You have to get the test build version from the CH discord server. After I did that and got the midi set up (in game) it worked just fine.

[@bbirdlilly9531]

@@bioniclefan1 thanks for replying. Yes I got the test version so it has drums as an available instrument. And I'm able to select drums as the Controller. However when trying to configure Input Device under Midi Settings, there's nothing listed. I can't select anything there let alone which appears in the video but not on my CH. Maybe it's because I'm using USB cable and not Midi to USB cable. Somethings working though because song audio is coming through to the TD module headset via the same USB connectiin. TD11 drivers installed fine. Maybe I should just buy one of these Midi Pro adapters and use the midi-out on the TD11 rather than USB-b (printer style out)

[@bioniclefan1]

@@bbirdlilly9531 I use the USB cable and don't have any issues. I know one time I had to restart my system to get it to recognize it in game. I'd try that first

[@cxrrupted_lessons1263]

Hey weird question but what do you have under your pedals because when I hit my pedal it makes a loud sound down stairs and it's not helpful. That would be very helpful if you can tell me.

[@project_mray]

Sure thing! So I have the Roland NE-10 and NE-1 noise eaters and also changed to drum-tec sound-absorbing beaters but these were all extras. What really works is the noise isolation platform with Sylomer pads under all of this. I built a simpler version of the one showcased in this tutorial (where the science behind is also explained): kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXLbqamfhbxqeMU

[@Irossdrummer]

Does drums not show up as a controller type if the drums are not plugged in? I'm waiting to get a cord but I wanted to set up the game beforehand, but only seeing 5 fret or 6 fret guitar, not drums

[@project_mray]

Sounds like you might not have downloaded the Public Test Build (PTB). The download from the official website does not come with drums controllers enabled. See Part 1 of these series on how to download the PTB.

[@samplautz5586]

One thing I would say that isn’t quite right is the toms. It’s more of a problem with how rockband was made, but the floor tom is the blue tom in basically every song, unless you gotta use 3 toms in the song, then the floor tom is green. Maps uses blue for the floor tom, but enter sandman uses green

[@im.weasel]

I have been browsing online for an ekit for clone hero and yarg. Just want to make sure that if I buy a kit that has a USB-B connection on the brain of the kit it should work for those games right?

[@danzirvine]

hey, i've got an alesis strike multipad but inside the game no drum option comes up, instead it offers me 5 or 6 button guitar only. any suggestions? There is no driver to be installed and the controller works fine inside of DAWs.

[@project_mray]

The drums are only available in the Public Test Build (PTB) which is available for download on the Clone Hero discord channel, NOT from the official website. Please check episode #1 of this tutorial series to see how to do so.

[@rianskot]

what cable do I need to connect my drum to the laptop?

[@ryansmith2701]

Is Clone Hero supposed to save your MIDI mappings? Every time I boot it up, I have to redo my preferred mappings for my e-drum set. I cannot find whether this is normal or not anywhere online.

[@SHMlKE]

What cable did you use to connect drum to pc??

[@cxrrupted_lessons1263]

Hey M-Ray I fixed my sound problem with the e-kit I just bought, I have one more question sometimes I’ll lose my combo even when I hit the note or when I hit the drum and the note don’t activate I don’t know if I should up the sensitivity to my drum kit or what but it messes up my full combos and it’s just not fun seeing my combo drop.

[@project_mray]

Yea I know what you mean. It could be 2 things: 1, you might need to calibrate your kit. To do that: Go to SETTINGS -> GAMEPLAY -> CALIBRATION TOOL. Hit the kick pedal in sync first with the audio signal, then with the video prompt. 2, it could be that you're playing an extra note but not realising it. Extra notes also break the combo. I'm only saying this because I've seen myself do it when I film my performance - but I'm still a noob so that could be just me :D

[@Elchupa_Nebrea]

I have a Ion drum rocker kit, will that work for Clone Hero without the MIDI adaptor? Xbox 360 kit, but I do have the adaptor to play on series x

[@Kuivhiiva]

now i know how to chart drums correctly very cool 👍

[@project_mray]

Happy to help!

[@kfootballkid]

So I don’t have a 3rd crash/ride, I have a hi hat and 2 cymbals. Any idea why #55 registers as a missed hit on green cymbal notes? Is it expecting #57?

[@luciovaquera1192]

How do I take off the cymbals I have the original rock band drums ?

[@project_mray]

I'm afraid I don't have experience with the original Rock Band drums - did you try the Discord channel (see episode #1) where there loads of experienced users willing to help others.

[@irisesposito4414]

Im confused i have the alesis nitro max and a USB b cable but when i plug it in to my laptop and go to clone hero i click input device but nothing shows up. Help please

[@ArgunSAYIN]

I had the exact same problem. It shows none but when you go up it shows. It is stupid but at least it works

[@XBones]

Does Clone hero make the drum audio or do you use your drum module for the drums?

[@iCookCrystalMeth]

i’m pretty sure Clone Hero won’t make the sounds afaik, you have to use another piece of software on the side

[@itzsite9746]

I'm stuck at the no input. I have my USB b to USB plugged in and I'm getting nothing.

[@theeightbitdad]

When I select my drum set by clicking “a” it goes back to saying input device.

[@sesmar99]

I have the original gh:wor drum kit, can i use it on clone hero? Sorry for asking but ive never played clone hero before.

[@drgonzlegnd]

I have multiple midi devices handling my drums, it seems clonehero will only allow one midi input at a time is there anyway around this?

[@alejo66698]

how can i switch between mappings in Windows? do i need usb or midi?

[@kymberlyn22]

Do you know of a way to set up an acoustic kit to clone hero? Maybe using triggers?

[@project_mray]

I've never tried it as I only ever owned an electronic kit but it should work in theory. Clone Hero only needs to know what MIDI instrument to use and then you can assign the MIDI note numbers coming from each trigger into different colors.

[@rem9750]

Can someone please help me? I have clone hero recognising the "usb midi interface" and turned off the pass through on my Td-9 kit...yet I dont have sound going through. I have a plug and play midi in/out to usb plugged in with the out in out and in not in. I'm not sure why I have nothing being recognised when I hit the drum when trying to map them Please help!

[@datgamerpancake3066]

it only says i have a 5 string guitar and a 6 string guitar, and no drum option

[@erraddict]

Do you just hook up your drums to your PC via USB?

[@jkevinAH]

thank you! downloading the game now and will try this soon :)

[@raulpesquero2859]

Wow you're brilliant,thanks a lot! How I can difference between guitar hero and rock bands songs? Where I can download only songs for the drums? Appreciated your info pal!

[@AVEMAN1996]

This might be a stupid question, but what is the best way to hook up my drums to my PC? Will the midi pro adapter from rock band work?

[@project_mray]

Not sure what kind of kit you have but I have an e-kit which connects via USB A and my system automatically recognises it as a midi instrument. I don't have experience with connecting a Rock Band kit or using the cable you mentioned.

[@Motionless94]

What do you need to hook it up to the game itself though? Just plug it into the computer / laptop and thats it? Or do i need any adapters or anything. I have a Roland Td 17kvx and clone hero ive just never plugged the drumkit into my laptop yet

[@project_mray]

Generally speaking it should be plug and play - at least that has been my experience. Your kit should be visible as a MIDI instrument in clone hero.

[@Ysaackingsley]

Do you mind linking the drum kit you bought??

[@project_mray]

Sure thing buddy, I added a fully list of my equipment to the video description!

[@kevilay]

I have a donnor midi drum kit and am having lots of issues with double hits on the pads. Any suggestions ? It seems to be mostly issues with the cymbals. I have raised the threshold but it seems to double hit at the same threshold

[@PointDizzle11]

Did you ever figure this out? I just set mine up for the first time and I have the exact issue you’re having with the cymbals. Ded200 here

[@kevilay]

@@PointDizzle11 not really. I've made some adjustments inside clone hero but nothing in my drum set. It's helped but I haven't had good success with it yet. Let me know if you figure anything out

[@magicmug4084]

can anyone else not navigate the menu at all?

[@I3lackmouth]

Use arrows and a key for accept s to go back and enter to open controller menu

[@GenoBlast1717]

Do you plug your kit in with a standard MIDI to USB cable or is it more complicated than that?

[@judobigdog7683]

I just bought a USB B plug and it connected fine

[@supanova_cod]

can you use rockband 4 drums on clone hero?

[@eswaldots2956]

Great video, but mi drums only have 2 cymbals what do I do so that instead of the blue cymbal only the blue drum appears, I have 4 drums and two cymbals

[@project_mray]

In that case you can select the "5 Lane Drums" controller, which will convert the Blue Cymbals to the Green. When mapping your kit, leave the blue cymbals empty when prompted for input.

[@kylenelson8417]

how does a kit plug into the desk top? what cable do i need?

[@project_mray]

I use a USB-B (from kit) to USB-A (to laptop) cable and my system automatically recognizes the device as a MIDI INSTRUMENT

[@kylenelson8417]

@@project_mray ohh sweet that's easy thank you!

[@dmatosfotoevideo4855]

I have the same drum as yours, but this drum is very sensitive and doesn't count the correct answers, what did you do to correct this?

[@project_mray]

Did you try calibrating? Go to SETTINGS -> GAMEPLAY -> CALIBRATION TOOL. Hit the kick pedal in sync first with the audio signal, then with the video prompt. Although our kits might be the same, our systems might have different performance power.

[@isaacmorrow7077]

i have a drum pad that just rests on a desk, its by Bonrob, would it work for clone hero?

[@project_mray]

Any MIDI instrument should work, as long as you can assign all the components (colours).

[@isaacmorrow7077]

@@project_mray ok thanks

[@TheHostman24]

For me, clone hero recognizes that the e.drum kit is connected (roland td-1mk) but the pads don't produce a signal when hitting the drum kit to be mapped. Do I need to download midi2key or register my product?

[@MySkilletfan]

I'm having the same issue, you figure it out?

[@project_mray]

That's really weird. Using midi2key should no longer be necessary with the latest PTB versions - so it was pretty much plug and play for me. My advise would be to head over to the Discord channel for help, there must be someone who solved this issue.

[@project_mray]

@@CaptainNerdNuts Ahh I see, good to know for next time if anyone has similar troubles! Thanks for keeping us posted 👍

[@frunzzz5907]

Hey just wondering , where did you get that kit from. Just want to try this myself

[@project_mray]

Hi! I'm based in the Netherlands so I got mine from Bax Shop, was even able to rent it before purchasing it to test the noise levels.

[@Flop-yp3py]

I use the world tour midi on rock band 4 with my Roland would that be the same thing with this just plug that in and the dongle?

[@project_mray]

It should work as long as you can connect your Roland kit as a Midi instrument to your system. In my setup it's pretty much plug and play!

[@2JMose2]

Perfect! Thank you!

[@YoungDervDawg]

Clone hero isn’t showing my drums or even giving me an option to select a midi device, any ideas why?

[@project_mray]

Hey Devon, it sounds like you not might have the Public Test Build version of Clone Hero which contains Drums. You will need to download it from the official Discord channel. Head over to Part 1 of my tutorial series to see how you can do that (the video is a year old so there may have been some updates but it'll give you a good idea)

[@justTadd]

@@project_mray But where? now its has changed, I can't find nothing :( help!

[@project_mray]

@@justTadd On Discord, these are instructions in the #rules channel: "Once you've read and understand these rules, type !verify in #verification in order to gain access to the rest of the server. YOU MUST WAIT 10 MINUTES (OR A BIT MORE) BEFORE YOU CAN SEE THE VERIFICATION CHANNEL; USE THAT TIME TO READ THE RULES AND FAQS"

[@RahkshiBoi]

Does this work with acoustic drum kits?

[@tarikelharim5823]

with triggers and some kind of module that can read the trigger inputs and output midi notes accordingly, i dont see why it wouldnt work

[@RahkshiBoi]

@@tarikelharim5823 I wasn’t expecting an actual answer. Since I asked this purely to humour some people.

[@grizzly8176]

My midi setup isn’t coming up in game I have a Alesis Striker pro

[@project_mray]

Did you make sure you have all the drivers installed for your operating system? You should be able to find them in the official Alesis site.

[@grizzly8176]

@@project_mray I got it but it’s delayed kinda

[@project_mray]

Good to hear you got the first step! Did you have a look at Audio and Video calibration settings? Have a look at some tutorials out there that show you how you can deal with the lag. I highly recommend the Discord channel too, a lot of the developers are there to help 🆘

[@Sleezboi]

Hey do you remember how you got it to work? I have the striker pro SE and it still isnt working for me, I tried USB A to B and now im using a midi and it wont detect any hits, but it detects the drums under "Midi"

[@Sleezboi]

Fixed mine, just had to plug the Midi to USB into a 2.0 USB not a 3.0

[@crashgeekdicoot]

can you use midi usb or does it need to be a midi out?

[@project_mray]

I use a USB cable 👍

[@crashgeekdicoot]

@@project_mray interesting. for some reason clone hero doesnt even let me switch to a drum controller, nor does the midi setting show uo

[@project_mray]

@@crashgeekdicoot I see. It sounds like you might have the version without Drums - did you install the Public Test Build version? Check out Episode #1 from these series.

[@crashgeekdicoot]

@@project_mray i actually am using the most recent version, same issues unfortunately

[@project_mray]

@@crashgeekdicoot Did you download it from the official website? If so, it doesn't matter what version you have the website version does not contain drum controllers. Check this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaiooXiDfaaqirc

[@sylveeonz]

my drums dont have MIDI it only has USB

[@SuperJxl]

blue is ride? i thought green was ride and blue was crash.

[@tbone8358]

Help, I can’t figure out how to map the high hat open as blue instead of yellow when I map it through Clone Hero whether my hat is closed or not it still gives the same mapping numbers.

[@project_mray]

This sounds like your kit has assigned the same midi signal to your open and closed hi-hats. Check the manuał of your kit, there must be a way to manually change the midi signals so that Clone Hero can distinguish between the two hi-hat modes.

[@tbone8358]

@@project_mray thanks. I just checked and they are not assigned to the same midi signal, the open vs closed have separate midi numbers but clone hero still doesn’t recognize the difference though it does notice the “44” midi signal of when I press my hi hat pedal down… any ideas?

[@realicepick285]

@@project_mray So I'm buying an alesis turbo kit for learning and want to use them on the side for clone hero does that work?

[@project_mray]

@@realicepick285 I don't personally have experience with an Alesis kit but electronic kits are MIDI instruments by default so they should be able to communicate with your PC + Clone Hero one way or another, just might need some persistence with the configuration xD

[@project_mray]

@@tbone8358 That's a bummer, in that case I really don't know what else you could do I'm afraid :( Perhaps give the Discord channel a try? Maybe players with the same kit/setup might have encountered this problem and know the solution.

[@ichihon8881]

Can latency be a problem with clone hero?

[@project_mray]

If you're talking about the latency between the kit and the software, there is a calibration tool available if you experience latency issues but it really depends on your system's performance. See my reply to Dmatos on how to deal with this. I've not tried online multiplayer mode so I don't know network latency I'm afraid.

[@JabbinJoel_Sc33p0]

no longer works says 5 and 6 button or controller only

[@jaimecastillo5741]

Thanks for the video! Very well explained

[@leonyltupasan]

sa sunod kusgi pod ang volume

[@virtualgamestrujilloperu6468]

Quien ya con figuró su batería electrónica que sepa español y me guíe :(

[@project_mray]

My partner knows some Spanish: tienes algun problema en especifico?

[@virtualgamestrujilloperu6468]

@@project_mray si se me van las notas musicales al precionar el tambor rojo por momentos.

[@project_mray]

@@virtualgamestrujilloperu6468 Sorry this is going to be terrible Spanish but better than nothing: No estoy seguro pero pueden ser muchas cosas. ¿Calibraste tu kit de batería? Puedes hacer esto en: SETTINGS -> GAMEPLAY -> CALIBRATION TOOL. Pisa el pedal de bombo en sincronía con la señal de audio. Luego golpéalo con el mensaje de video. Otra razón por la que pierdo las notas es cuando toco demasiadas notas (típico cuando estoy aprendiendo). Si esto no funciona, mire la sensibilidad de su kit de batería. Si es demasiado alto, su kit de batería tocará más notas de las que toca.

[@samplautz5586]

So why is this called MIDI when the cable you need to use is not MIDI but just a regular USB printer cable

[@virtualgamestrujilloperu6468]

Español :(

[@davidcotestratton]

cant get my HH to work properly in game