How to sing ROCK with Complete Vocal Technique (CVT)

[@datGuy0309]

mother, father is an amazing and under-appreciated song and I’m glad you mentioned it

[@TheLordQueenYo]

I have a CVT teacher and latley i couldnt afford schedualing lessons, and i drifted away to youtube vids, and was again confused by the terms of classical singing and then I landed at your channel and everything feels familiar again. love your content

[@RockVoxYT]

Thank you very much! 😊

[@jc6830]

1:20 density 2:20 falsetto 4:42 5:57 6:53 three categories of rock singers Highway vs Byway Clean vs distorted Clean Highway Clean Byway Distorted Highway Distorted Highway

[@TheDainamix]

I absolutely love your content guys! I have been waiting for years to find such in depth CVT content on KZbin. But not just that, also rock singing and CVT? I couldn't be happier. Thank you so much, your videos have already been so helpful to improve my singing. I'm looking forward to see more videos from you guys!! (Can't wait for the distortion video! )

[@launtschuannfoa9122]

Great Infos 👍👍👍👍👍 Thx a lot ⭐

[@Elhombreperdido]

Best CVT demonstrations on KZbin. 👏👏👏

[@RockVoxYT]

Thank you very much! :)

[@thegreenmanalishiyamadori371]

What about Rob Halford's singing ???

[@RockVoxYT]

He does different things in different ranges. In his mid-high range he often goes to reduced density (aka Byway). His super high notes are usually falsetto with a ton of twang and a combo of distortion and rattle effects.

[@SaiChooMusic]

Okay guys, I really wasn't ready for the HD sharpness

[@RockVoxYT]

Hahaha! Yeah we needed to up the video quality a bit 😄

[@datGuy0309]

Are you familiar with kargyraa? Everyone says it comes from the false vocal folds, but when a lot of people do it, it sounds more like arytenoids to me. When you did the clearing of the throat example for rattle, a kargyraa like sound came out. Are some people doing false fold distortion and some arytenoid rattle?

[@RockVoxYT]

That's possible! I can't say I've listened to enough examples of it to have a definitive opinion on that though 🤷🏻‍♂️ Ivan

[@wastedgeneration9595]

Please do analyse Tom Keifer (Cinderella )

[@wtfdelicious]

Great content, love the channel and I've learned so much already! Please, keep it coming!!

[@iramxndez]

loooooove it

[@LisaMakovski]

you are guys both great 👏

[@lesterguitarist]

I haven´t seen this... nice Lesson about Rock Singing... mmmm for Next Videos i would like to see something about Support, Airflow, and all the pieces for a Good Support Technique, also some analysis of Singers in terms of Modes and Effects.

[@j.c1574]

Can you guys PLEASE make a in depth video about Layne Staley from Alice in Chains his vocal technique and distortion style?

[@RockVoxYT]

Hey! That was requested several times, so I think it's on our shortlist! We haven't made new videos in over a year, but we might come back with some shorter clips soon.

[@alizaj4256]

LOVE the content guys. I was wondering why you guys didn't talk much about rock, but here we are! Would LOVE to hear more about rock/metal/extreme singing based on CVT. I think most of us here know that rock/metal singing is probably the toughest form of singing. (just watching Bruce Dickinson running around the stage like that while singing those crazy songs can tire me out lol) Biggest revelation for me was when you said Milijenko's high notes were falsettos, and not super high screams like I thought. Somehow that clicked with me, so huge thanks for that! Any chance of you guys diving deeper into individual singers and 'break down' their singing, CVT-style? That would be SUPER interesting. Names I'm thinking of: Ronnie James Dio (duh), Geoff Tate, Graham Bonnet, Joe Lynn Turner, Sebastian Bach (Slave to the Grind album), Jeff Keith, David Coverdale... pretty much all the legends haha! Anyway, loving the channel!

[@RockVoxYT]

Thank you very much! Yes, we did talk about doing singer specific analysis. Can't promise anything yet, but it is one of the options we're at least considering

[@joej3096]

What type of singer is Chris Stapleton and Van Morrison ? Thank you. Also, why is the word/terms Highway and Byway used to describe a type of singing?

[@ErikSetiawan-ij5gw]

Please reaction vocal by dimas senopati. And what tips technic vocal distortion 🙏

[@misery3681]

Thanks for this guys! Ivan reminds me so much of young Jerry Cantrell of Alice In Chains!

[@dbanksey216]

So under lessons with you, how is it structured. Do we effectively have to start again with things we know, I've been picking lots of stuff up online for a while now, is CVT a little bit like, forget what you know, follow this method, or does Support and basics translate ok?

[@RockVoxYT]

We work on whatever you want to work on. No point in starting again with things you can already do. You're the one setting the goal and we try to get you there as quick as we can!

[@rungleingamtuikhar]

What is Highway and byway singing?

[@RockVoxYT]

Those are terms used in CVT as synonyms for fuller and reduced density respectively. Density is related to vocal fold thickness as reduced density features a more pronounced tilting of the thyroid cartilage which often results in a more held back sound! For a more in depth explanation of the concept, watch our video on Vocal Registers or read about density in the CVT app.

[@Murzilka_Murzilka]

Nice video guys! I have a question re: Miljenko Matijevic's singing - does he sing the whole chorus of "I'll never let you go" in falsetto or does he only use it for the top notes?

[@RockVoxYT]

Thank you! He does just the highest bits in falsetto. He's got a well developed gradual transition where he thins out more and more as he goes up. So he's going closer and closer to falsetto as he goes up.

[@Murzilka_Murzilka]

@@RockVoxYT Oh, interesting. Would you say that he is in M1 before flipping to falsetto (M2)?

[@RockVoxYT]

Yes! Both fuller and reduced density in CVT would fall under M1.

[@iVoceiVoce]

This is very good and very helpful as well, thanks for doing this!🙂

[@dbanksey216]

Cool Video, but 2 Different Parts of the World, how did you guy's meet?

[@RockVoxYT]

Thanks! We met at CVI in Copenhagen where we both studied for our CVT teacher authorization.

[@kurkkasaurus]

I wish you made a similar video with female rock and metal singers!

[@RockVoxYT]

That is something we thought about after making this video! I'm not sure if I know enough female rock singers to fill each one of these categories, to be honest. If you have some suggestions of female rock singer examples that would fit neatly into this organization, would you mind sending them? Ivan

[@kurkkasaurus]

That would be super! Here are some of my personal favorites. Not shure what category they each fall in though... Janis Joplin Grace Slick Doro Pesch Debbie Harry Patti Smith Ann Wilson Gwen Stefani Wendy O Williams Lady Gaga definately a rock voice even if she is more of a pop icon.

[@samsschool3639]

Would you mind changing the chair you use Ivan 😂

[@RockVoxYT]

Hahaha 😄 do the chair creaks bother you? I might need to buy another chair anyway since one of the two in my studio broke last week, so your wish might be granted rather soon

[@simocham80]

Is Chris Cornell singing byway??

[@RockVoxYT]

Early Cornell was usually sticking more to Highway, but in his later years started going a bit more Byway

[@limitinfimum2482]

@@RockVoxYT that's fascinating. can i ask: what would you say he is doing on his early super-high stuff like, e.g., "jesus christ pose" or "birth ritual" in terms of vocal modes/density? i had assumed (from reading about CVT) that his singing on those tracks would be considered byway just because it sounds rather light to me, but based on your videos (which have been very helpful, btw!) it seems like the highway/byway distinction doesn't map that neatly onto my subjective perceptions of 'light' versus 'heavy' sounds.

[@RockVoxYT]

@@limitinfimum2482 If we're talking about the very high stuff like those D5s and Eb5s in the songs you mention, then yes - those were mostly Byway. It's hard to put a singer in a single box when there are so many different sounds the same singer can produce. I would say Cornell usually sang with more density than most singers up to the B4 or C5 area, but after that he'd go thinner. But for example 2:39 to 2:50 in Black Rain has some rather thick D5s. I think it might map well with your perception, but it's just a matter of what specific points we take for reference 🙂

[@limitinfimum2482]

@@RockVoxYT thank you for the response! that makes a lot of sense.

[@BartCub]

@@RockVoxYT I'm curious about the term “thinning”. At times when I heard it used in the past the context seemed to imply a reduction in vocal fold mass, or I guess in CVT terms that would be considered less metallic/more neutral. You're using it here to mean less density. In your experience is one meaning more common than the other? CVT book says “You can call thinning a refined decrescendo” or “a gradual weakening of the note without loss of sound quality”, which sounds like the golden exercise! :)

[@Lalamarmaille]

DO RNB NEXT!!!

[@RockVoxYT]

Great idea and I hope we can make that happen with a guest at some point. We're currently planning a video on jazz singing with a colleague of ours. Neither of us does a lot of RNB singing, so we're not that familiar with genre conventions. We could of course analyze an RNB singer and help a stundent get closer, but to do this kind of genre analysis would require a deeper knowledge of the genre. Nevertheless, it would be really cool to cover that and I hope we'll do that at some point in the future with a guest that is very familiar with the genre and how to best approach it from a CVT perspective.

[@simocham80]

Any distorted sound I attempt feels super uncomfortable. I think I will stay with clean singing...

[@RockVoxYT]

That's not an uncommon complaint when starting out with distortion. It can take some time to learn the right coordination. Adding more twang and raising the larynx can usually make the distortion feel safer when starting out. If you'll need more help with it, you can always contact us for a lesson (links in the video description)