How to Spin Turn Perfectly | MiniTip Monday

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@TheMotleyFuel
@TheMotleyFuel 7 ай бұрын
Have been struggling with this for a while. After watching this video, I practiced about 10 minutes and that's all it took. The biggest take away for me was letting the bike hang with a straight inside arm. So much easier now. Thanks!
@paul.vanhout57
@paul.vanhout57 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely some fine points I have overlooked and helps explain why I am at 50/50 getting it right.
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helps Paul!
@darthonutube
@darthonutube 3 жыл бұрын
Hello LLel. Huge fan - love these. One thing that I feel you missed out though... The guy demonstrates the turns beautifully and does something that is very important to aid the turns every time - but you’ve neglected to mention! Before he drops the clutch, he turns his head to look back at where he wants the bike to go! I was told this a long time ago and it makes a big difference, rather than looking down or ahead or at the handlebars! Aside from that, keep up the good work. 👍
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@mhrd12
@mhrd12 2 жыл бұрын
I saw many great enduro training videos but your explanations are really very natural and show what a newbe may face or confusion run in mind... They are true coaching ... I dont have enduro bike but have KTM 390 adv where suspension is hard but trying ur guidance helped me a lot expecting future videos on adv bikes .... Great effort from ur end
@TheBigBraap
@TheBigBraap 3 жыл бұрын
The best explanation I've ever seen - the right level of information- good stuff❤
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@niborski2997
@niborski2997 2 жыл бұрын
Another really simple and informative MTM, the additional graphics and excellent shot angles, re-enforce the points too.👏👍
@simonturvey1493
@simonturvey1493 3 жыл бұрын
One hell of a nice guy, great rider, super informative and helpful. Thanks again Lell.
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Kind words Simon 😁
@j00nil
@j00nil 3 жыл бұрын
the bit about letting the inside arm “hang” the weight of the leaned over bike is on-point. in my experience, while i get my butt off the seat i do put some weight on the outside peg: it helps take some of the bike’s lean weight off your inside arm and helps push the back of the bike around (esp helpful if the trail is super narrow and you can’t lean it over very far)
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting thought Joonil! I'll go test it!
@calin7017
@calin7017 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, easy looking and beautifully explained. Now do it on the right hand!
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
It's easier to right 😁
@darthonutube
@darthonutube 3 жыл бұрын
The guy in the video did do a right-hand spin! 🙃
@calin7017
@calin7017 3 жыл бұрын
@@darthonutube I know, but I like how he goes into every detail, so ... why not for right-hand too?
@davewalton2358
@davewalton2358 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, love the mini-tips! Locked down again in Oz so will either end up with a destroyed yard or plenty of black donuts on the concrete driveway and a bald back tire practising these!
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds not so bad 😂
@crimzikk
@crimzikk 3 жыл бұрын
works a treat! thanks from Australia
@harryballzaky2674
@harryballzaky2674 Жыл бұрын
Spin turns come in handy when you're on a heavy/clumsy bike like my KLR 650. I often explore new trails which more often than not, simply dead end from overgrowth & it's too tight to get off the bike & try to maneuver it by hand. As long as you've got enough room to spin the bike around without banging into a sapling or heavy brush, the spin turn will get you back around basically on a dime. Just start your turn with the bike on the far side of the trail from the direction you want to lean & spin, that will give you the most room to spin the bike around.
@jpravetz
@jpravetz Жыл бұрын
My apprehension about learning a spin turn is dropping the leant-over bike. A heavier bike is more risk. How is this not a problem when doing spin turns?
@michaelcrotty1265
@michaelcrotty1265 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for filling in the gaps. Much appreciated!!
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@d_ward4871
@d_ward4871 2 жыл бұрын
I need to get this skill mastered. Glad I checked out your vid, explains why I’ve been having trouble
@mrbjay5443
@mrbjay5443 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic tutorial Thanks! I needed this Perfect!!!
@djlyonol
@djlyonol 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Any tip to do it with an adventure bike if you’re short? I’m 5ft4 and When I lean my Tenere it it’s on the verge of falling down 😅 I have no issue with regards to the height when the bike is moving though!
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
For sure! I made a video about doing it next to the bike as well and if the bike feels tall or you are not tall, that's the best way! Have look in our playlists at MiniTip Monday!
@shogoonp.bechler4601
@shogoonp.bechler4601 3 жыл бұрын
I asked the same question in one of your previous video, how to manage a spin turn when you use an automatic gear bike (honda x-adv) ?
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Turn the throttle and do this the same. If you lean it over enough it will spin. Traction Control off also!
@dznnf7
@dznnf7 3 жыл бұрын
Notice how the video is done on mud? Loose dirt works similarly. Dry, hard, high-traction surfaces make this much harder to do well from the start. Find a wet or loamy spot to learn.
@elihautamaki547
@elihautamaki547 2 жыл бұрын
put higher air pressure in your rear tire too...more air pressure less traction
@NishadAbdulkhader
@NishadAbdulkhader 3 жыл бұрын
How cool the video is..Nice lecture with demonstration..keep going buddy
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@thealvaco
@thealvaco 3 жыл бұрын
I already know how to do this. But now I know it better!
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helps!
@carkdonwah1528
@carkdonwah1528 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Looking forward to trying this out.
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Have fun!
@harrisonjacobsen173
@harrisonjacobsen173 3 жыл бұрын
Love the mini tip mondays!
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Nature.Is.Medicine
@Nature.Is.Medicine 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir. It helped me a lot.
@Nw7574nz
@Nw7574nz Жыл бұрын
Is it easier to learn starting from either direction in terms of managing clutch control especially if things start to go pear shaped?
@motorockerd
@motorockerd 3 жыл бұрын
Best video ever of how to do donats...and again...Thanks a lot!!!
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@CommieHunter7
@CommieHunter7 3 жыл бұрын
Mini tip Monday is back!!!
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
It is. It's 20 Epsiodes a year on patreon and bit more sporadic here 😁
@johnarthur9714
@johnarthur9714 3 жыл бұрын
Looks simple - thanks Llel - same princples with an Adv bike?
@fredthebarber
@fredthebarber 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, your websites listed in the description aren’t hyperlinks. If you could fix that you’ll get a lot more clicks. Great tip, thank you!
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! They should hyperlink automatically. I'll figure out why!
@fredthebarber
@fredthebarber 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine I think they need the bit at the beginning
@Ernepper
@Ernepper 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine Hi Llel, just for your information, both websites are still no hyperlinks for (running KZbin app on iPad) I think I just love the KTM 790 Adventure sticker kit! Is there as change you could some photo’s real life to getter a better idea how it looks?
@Ernepper
@Ernepper 3 жыл бұрын
And btw, great video! Now I understand better why this cool move doesn’t work every time I try :D
@SWTrailsAndWheels
@SWTrailsAndWheels 3 жыл бұрын
What about the traction of the surface. You are doing it on slick mud. Any changes if surface is dryer or has better traction than mud?
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Great question. A little bit but not a lot. On tarmac you need more power but mostly you need to have enough lean angle. So even on quite grippy dirt as long as you're leaned over enough it will break traction just fine. 🙂
@ktmkevin
@ktmkevin 3 жыл бұрын
More throttle! 😁
@thfazi1
@thfazi1 3 жыл бұрын
great explanation, it's a really useful skill to have but not so easy on my 640 especially with luggage. in the video you are wearing the acerbis enduro one jacket. would you recommend this jacket for dualsport use in combination with an armored vest?
@PiotrstrashcanŚmietnikPiotra
@PiotrstrashcanŚmietnikPiotra 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation!
@stavencapp
@stavencapp Жыл бұрын
helps if you can flat foot it. I unfortunateley cant, can only get one foot down tippy toe. Ive still managed to teach myself to do spin turns, but its much harder. Same thing with pivot turns.
@ruimiguelteixeira4058
@ruimiguelteixeira4058 3 жыл бұрын
It works and it is that simple. Thanks
Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Any suggestions on how to get over the fear of damaging my 10k€+ adventure bike while trying this?
@majormassenspektrometer
@majormassenspektrometer Жыл бұрын
Yeah wanted to try it with my Tenere 700. But as I'm riding like 99% on road I won't try it. Could fuck up my bike too easily. lol Getting over the fear of damaging it I would say just let it drop in your driveway. Once it's dropped and you have a few scratches spin turns won't do much more damage if they go wrong. Also you are getting used to the feeling of your bike getting dropped. Maybe crash guards aren't a bad idea? ^^
@jaimemetcher388
@jaimemetcher388 Жыл бұрын
If you can possibly manage it, get a light cheap dual sport to make your mistakes on and build your confidence. +1 to the crash bars on the big bike too. It's all about reducing the consequences so you feel comfortable to play around.
Жыл бұрын
@@majormassenspektrometer I have crash guards and dropped the bike twice already. The levers come at risk slightly, my plastic handguards aren't so good. Otherwise bike is OK. I am not sure dropping at low speed is the worst scenario though. I was more worried about some kind of lower leg injury :)
@ktmtravels3727
@ktmtravels3727 10 ай бұрын
On grass
@ADVdiary
@ADVdiary Жыл бұрын
Am 5,4 … will be able to spin turn a tall bike like tenere or gs?
@Shhhhh9862__er
@Shhhhh9862__er 4 ай бұрын
I’ve got a supermoto is is harder to do it on concrete or just the same
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 4 ай бұрын
Harder. Need more lean angle. Possible thought
@Ironhawx
@Ironhawx 3 жыл бұрын
How does it work on heavier ADV bikes? If the left arm is straight in the lean the heavy bike is going down
@nobodyinparticular709
@nobodyinparticular709 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, can't wait to repeatedly drop my 1200gsa🤣
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's definitely harder. It works the same as we showed in the video really, but you can't spend an age trying find the clutch bite point. Move quickly and it's fine. Also, if you need help picking your bike up, I made a video about that. 😁
@deon1978
@deon1978 3 жыл бұрын
The guy (Simon Pavey) on the bike doing the spin turn in the video taught me this at their off road school on a 1200GS. I will not lie, leaning such a heavy bike over till your arm is straight wasn't easy...Especially since I'm a little short...You can't do it for long, but then I guess the trick is, to lean it and immediately dump the clutch and get it round...You almost need to time it, just as your arm reaches that point the clutch goes so that is nearly one seamless movement. I ran out of energy and I struggled and it felt like the bike was pulling my arm off! But then it was my first time, I'm sure if I practised it at least once a month for a year or so, I'd get good...
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
Don, you've got it spot on.
@Ironhawx
@Ironhawx 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine thanks. You and Don have made an important point here. Expect to drop ADV bikes many times over, that’s par for the course and part of the learning experience.
@menschen1991
@menschen1991 3 жыл бұрын
I'm doing something wrong. I have no trouble holding my bike even if it's fairly lent over. The issue I have is different traction circumstances while doing the turn. It works fine and suddenly I get traction and lose it instantly again making it hard to keep the bike at the same angle. I do the whole thing fairly lent over. Maybe I need to give it more beans but also there the line between dropping it and gaining sudden traction is pretty thin for me
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
So, this is really tricky to give advice on unless you upload a video for me to see. From the sound of it though, it sounds like not enough lean angle. Unless its really quite grippy, you need almost zero 'beans' to do this well.
@armadilllo
@armadilllo Жыл бұрын
I practice this on my neighbors lawn.
@TheGuyWhoAsked72
@TheGuyWhoAsked72 4 ай бұрын
Nice
@zBaihu0
@zBaihu0 3 ай бұрын
Lowkey same
@chadhelms4948
@chadhelms4948 3 жыл бұрын
What model of Husky is this? FC? I see it has a kickstand. By the way nice video. Love the spin turn
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
The Husky is an FE 350 enduro model. Thanks for the nice words.
@nateapachuau123
@nateapachuau123 Ай бұрын
Do i need to press front brake?
@leonardobattaglia8041
@leonardobattaglia8041 3 жыл бұрын
How to manage with short leg and heavy adv bike?
@coolfriend693
@coolfriend693 Жыл бұрын
Throttle to be kept constant?
@TWTourist
@TWTourist 2 жыл бұрын
What about a DCT African Twin?
@hillkiran
@hillkiran 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do this with a DCT?
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
You can do everything with DCT
@Scott-ri2ek
@Scott-ri2ek 3 жыл бұрын
Cant stop laughing at the 2:00 crash
@chiptaxfree
@chiptaxfree 2 жыл бұрын
What size in your bike is that?
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 350 and a 1250 GS for the video.
@chiptaxfree
@chiptaxfree 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine I've got a 2020 wr250f. KTM exe 500 and a Yamaha t7.
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 2 жыл бұрын
@@chiptaxfree nice collection!
@jacokoortzen9963
@jacokoortzen9963 2 жыл бұрын
What about doing it with a 'dct' bike?
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 2 жыл бұрын
What about it are you worried about?
@jacokoortzen9963
@jacokoortzen9963 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine 'DCT' - no clutch. So how to do it?
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacokoortzen9963 The same way. DCT is still a clutch, you just control the throttle bit. If you follow all the steps with leaning the bike over, and the turn the throttle it will do the same thing. Please be careful with this though. On DCT you don't have a way to rescue the problem if you don't get it right. I'd caution you to try and learn it on something else first, just because it can go wrong.
@jacokoortzen9963
@jacokoortzen9963 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine Much appreciated, your feedback.
@davehysom2636
@davehysom2636 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. My takeaway: there are 22 things I need to do perfectly the first time, else I'm effed. I would like a video that shows me how to learn one thing at a time. If I have to learn 22 things (a number I just made up) and get them exactly correct the first time, else I'll die ... with all due respect, not really all that helpful.
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree. That's why a ton of our minitip monday videos are about the foundation skills. 🤣
@armadilllo
@armadilllo Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@b.seven_fashion
@b.seven_fashion 2 жыл бұрын
enjoying 😁
@wnicklas
@wnicklas 3 жыл бұрын
Simple 😁 Ride safe 👍🏻
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx 3 жыл бұрын
cool. now do that on 950 adv s 😁
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx 3 жыл бұрын
*with full fuel tanks
@CommieHunter7
@CommieHunter7 3 жыл бұрын
I am short and can usually pull it off on my 990. Best to practice on small bikes and then transition up.
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx 3 жыл бұрын
@@CommieHunter7 but.its hard right. I dunno i always learned on beasts ;
@CommieHunter7
@CommieHunter7 3 жыл бұрын
@@Angry-Lynx yeah for sure it's hard. Tall bike, heavy. You have to perfectly balance power and lean. If you check the original vid from a while ago, he shows how to do it off the bike, which is a good place to start especially for bigger bikes.
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
It's awkward for sure on a 950/990. They're quite top heavy.
@kloppskalli
@kloppskalli Жыл бұрын
is there a "how to lift the front in third gear over obastacles" tutorial ? I am a bit scared ...
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine Жыл бұрын
Learn it first in 3rd gear. Video is on Patreon. 😊
@fonkysahb3352
@fonkysahb3352 2 жыл бұрын
Always wanted to do this since I saw it in The Terminator lol
@robocombo
@robocombo 3 жыл бұрын
Also look around before starting. Don't roost your mates / fire gravel into bunnies eyes, create a massive dust cloud
@BrakeMagazine
@BrakeMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
This. 👌 Should go without saying really 🤣
@MrNicklasson87
@MrNicklasson87 2 жыл бұрын
Also, it helps if you don`t have an expensive bike that you`re scared to drop, like me 😅
@Skiamakhos
@Skiamakhos Жыл бұрын
Shop's giving a bad SSL cert. I accept the risk & continue, it gives a 403 erro: Forbidden.
@juanpaguerrero613
@juanpaguerrero613 Жыл бұрын
👏👏🔥🔥🔥
@nicflatterie7772
@nicflatterie7772 2 жыл бұрын
Since leg day is not every day, no way I see myself doing that on a GS.
@sameenakausar1020
@sameenakausar1020 Жыл бұрын
👌👌🙌🙌👏👏
@LuckyNikitaBoba
@LuckyNikitaBoba 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice. Get a short guy to do this. Get a rider that is 167 cm.
@44musher
@44musher Жыл бұрын
I just can't get my Royal Enfield Himalayan to break the tire free....
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