Have been struggling with this for a while. After watching this video, I practiced about 10 minutes and that's all it took. The biggest take away for me was letting the bike hang with a straight inside arm. So much easier now. Thanks!
@paul.vanhout573 жыл бұрын
Definitely some fine points I have overlooked and helps explain why I am at 50/50 getting it right.
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helps Paul!
@darthonutube3 жыл бұрын
Hello LLel. Huge fan - love these. One thing that I feel you missed out though... The guy demonstrates the turns beautifully and does something that is very important to aid the turns every time - but you’ve neglected to mention! Before he drops the clutch, he turns his head to look back at where he wants the bike to go! I was told this a long time ago and it makes a big difference, rather than looking down or ahead or at the handlebars! Aside from that, keep up the good work. 👍
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@mhrd122 жыл бұрын
I saw many great enduro training videos but your explanations are really very natural and show what a newbe may face or confusion run in mind... They are true coaching ... I dont have enduro bike but have KTM 390 adv where suspension is hard but trying ur guidance helped me a lot expecting future videos on adv bikes .... Great effort from ur end
@TheBigBraap3 жыл бұрын
The best explanation I've ever seen - the right level of information- good stuff❤
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@niborski29972 жыл бұрын
Another really simple and informative MTM, the additional graphics and excellent shot angles, re-enforce the points too.👏👍
@simonturvey14933 жыл бұрын
One hell of a nice guy, great rider, super informative and helpful. Thanks again Lell.
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Kind words Simon 😁
@j00nil3 жыл бұрын
the bit about letting the inside arm “hang” the weight of the leaned over bike is on-point. in my experience, while i get my butt off the seat i do put some weight on the outside peg: it helps take some of the bike’s lean weight off your inside arm and helps push the back of the bike around (esp helpful if the trail is super narrow and you can’t lean it over very far)
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Interesting thought Joonil! I'll go test it!
@calin70173 жыл бұрын
Nice, easy looking and beautifully explained. Now do it on the right hand!
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
It's easier to right 😁
@darthonutube3 жыл бұрын
The guy in the video did do a right-hand spin! 🙃
@calin70173 жыл бұрын
@@darthonutube I know, but I like how he goes into every detail, so ... why not for right-hand too?
@davewalton23583 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, love the mini-tips! Locked down again in Oz so will either end up with a destroyed yard or plenty of black donuts on the concrete driveway and a bald back tire practising these!
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Sounds not so bad 😂
@crimzikk3 жыл бұрын
works a treat! thanks from Australia
@harryballzaky2674 Жыл бұрын
Spin turns come in handy when you're on a heavy/clumsy bike like my KLR 650. I often explore new trails which more often than not, simply dead end from overgrowth & it's too tight to get off the bike & try to maneuver it by hand. As long as you've got enough room to spin the bike around without banging into a sapling or heavy brush, the spin turn will get you back around basically on a dime. Just start your turn with the bike on the far side of the trail from the direction you want to lean & spin, that will give you the most room to spin the bike around.
@jpravetz Жыл бұрын
My apprehension about learning a spin turn is dropping the leant-over bike. A heavier bike is more risk. How is this not a problem when doing spin turns?
@michaelcrotty12653 жыл бұрын
Thank You for filling in the gaps. Much appreciated!!
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@d_ward48712 жыл бұрын
I need to get this skill mastered. Glad I checked out your vid, explains why I’ve been having trouble
@mrbjay5443 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic tutorial Thanks! I needed this Perfect!!!
@djlyonol3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Any tip to do it with an adventure bike if you’re short? I’m 5ft4 and When I lean my Tenere it it’s on the verge of falling down 😅 I have no issue with regards to the height when the bike is moving though!
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
For sure! I made a video about doing it next to the bike as well and if the bike feels tall or you are not tall, that's the best way! Have look in our playlists at MiniTip Monday!
@shogoonp.bechler46013 жыл бұрын
I asked the same question in one of your previous video, how to manage a spin turn when you use an automatic gear bike (honda x-adv) ?
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Turn the throttle and do this the same. If you lean it over enough it will spin. Traction Control off also!
@dznnf73 жыл бұрын
Notice how the video is done on mud? Loose dirt works similarly. Dry, hard, high-traction surfaces make this much harder to do well from the start. Find a wet or loamy spot to learn.
@elihautamaki5472 жыл бұрын
put higher air pressure in your rear tire too...more air pressure less traction
@NishadAbdulkhader3 жыл бұрын
How cool the video is..Nice lecture with demonstration..keep going buddy
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@thealvaco3 жыл бұрын
I already know how to do this. But now I know it better!
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helps!
@carkdonwah15283 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Looking forward to trying this out.
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Have fun!
@harrisonjacobsen1733 жыл бұрын
Love the mini tip mondays!
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Nature.Is.Medicine2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir. It helped me a lot.
@Nw7574nz Жыл бұрын
Is it easier to learn starting from either direction in terms of managing clutch control especially if things start to go pear shaped?
@motorockerd3 жыл бұрын
Best video ever of how to do donats...and again...Thanks a lot!!!
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@CommieHunter73 жыл бұрын
Mini tip Monday is back!!!
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
It is. It's 20 Epsiodes a year on patreon and bit more sporadic here 😁
@johnarthur97143 жыл бұрын
Looks simple - thanks Llel - same princples with an Adv bike?
@fredthebarber3 жыл бұрын
Hey, your websites listed in the description aren’t hyperlinks. If you could fix that you’ll get a lot more clicks. Great tip, thank you!
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! They should hyperlink automatically. I'll figure out why!
@fredthebarber3 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine I think they need the bit at the beginning
@Ernepper3 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine Hi Llel, just for your information, both websites are still no hyperlinks for (running KZbin app on iPad) I think I just love the KTM 790 Adventure sticker kit! Is there as change you could some photo’s real life to getter a better idea how it looks?
@Ernepper3 жыл бұрын
And btw, great video! Now I understand better why this cool move doesn’t work every time I try :D
@SWTrailsAndWheels3 жыл бұрын
What about the traction of the surface. You are doing it on slick mud. Any changes if surface is dryer or has better traction than mud?
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Great question. A little bit but not a lot. On tarmac you need more power but mostly you need to have enough lean angle. So even on quite grippy dirt as long as you're leaned over enough it will break traction just fine. 🙂
@ktmkevin3 жыл бұрын
More throttle! 😁
@thfazi13 жыл бұрын
great explanation, it's a really useful skill to have but not so easy on my 640 especially with luggage. in the video you are wearing the acerbis enduro one jacket. would you recommend this jacket for dualsport use in combination with an armored vest?
@PiotrstrashcanŚmietnikPiotra3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation!
@stavencapp Жыл бұрын
helps if you can flat foot it. I unfortunateley cant, can only get one foot down tippy toe. Ive still managed to teach myself to do spin turns, but its much harder. Same thing with pivot turns.
@ruimiguelteixeira40583 жыл бұрын
It works and it is that simple. Thanks
Жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Any suggestions on how to get over the fear of damaging my 10k€+ adventure bike while trying this?
@majormassenspektrometer Жыл бұрын
Yeah wanted to try it with my Tenere 700. But as I'm riding like 99% on road I won't try it. Could fuck up my bike too easily. lol Getting over the fear of damaging it I would say just let it drop in your driveway. Once it's dropped and you have a few scratches spin turns won't do much more damage if they go wrong. Also you are getting used to the feeling of your bike getting dropped. Maybe crash guards aren't a bad idea? ^^
@jaimemetcher388 Жыл бұрын
If you can possibly manage it, get a light cheap dual sport to make your mistakes on and build your confidence. +1 to the crash bars on the big bike too. It's all about reducing the consequences so you feel comfortable to play around.
Жыл бұрын
@@majormassenspektrometer I have crash guards and dropped the bike twice already. The levers come at risk slightly, my plastic handguards aren't so good. Otherwise bike is OK. I am not sure dropping at low speed is the worst scenario though. I was more worried about some kind of lower leg injury :)
@ktmtravels372710 ай бұрын
On grass
@ADVdiary Жыл бұрын
Am 5,4 … will be able to spin turn a tall bike like tenere or gs?
@Shhhhh9862__er4 ай бұрын
I’ve got a supermoto is is harder to do it on concrete or just the same
@BrakeMagazine4 ай бұрын
Harder. Need more lean angle. Possible thought
@Ironhawx3 жыл бұрын
How does it work on heavier ADV bikes? If the left arm is straight in the lean the heavy bike is going down
@nobodyinparticular7093 жыл бұрын
Yea, can't wait to repeatedly drop my 1200gsa🤣
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's definitely harder. It works the same as we showed in the video really, but you can't spend an age trying find the clutch bite point. Move quickly and it's fine. Also, if you need help picking your bike up, I made a video about that. 😁
@deon19783 жыл бұрын
The guy (Simon Pavey) on the bike doing the spin turn in the video taught me this at their off road school on a 1200GS. I will not lie, leaning such a heavy bike over till your arm is straight wasn't easy...Especially since I'm a little short...You can't do it for long, but then I guess the trick is, to lean it and immediately dump the clutch and get it round...You almost need to time it, just as your arm reaches that point the clutch goes so that is nearly one seamless movement. I ran out of energy and I struggled and it felt like the bike was pulling my arm off! But then it was my first time, I'm sure if I practised it at least once a month for a year or so, I'd get good...
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
Don, you've got it spot on.
@Ironhawx3 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine thanks. You and Don have made an important point here. Expect to drop ADV bikes many times over, that’s par for the course and part of the learning experience.
@menschen19913 жыл бұрын
I'm doing something wrong. I have no trouble holding my bike even if it's fairly lent over. The issue I have is different traction circumstances while doing the turn. It works fine and suddenly I get traction and lose it instantly again making it hard to keep the bike at the same angle. I do the whole thing fairly lent over. Maybe I need to give it more beans but also there the line between dropping it and gaining sudden traction is pretty thin for me
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
So, this is really tricky to give advice on unless you upload a video for me to see. From the sound of it though, it sounds like not enough lean angle. Unless its really quite grippy, you need almost zero 'beans' to do this well.
@armadilllo Жыл бұрын
I practice this on my neighbors lawn.
@TheGuyWhoAsked724 ай бұрын
Nice
@zBaihu03 ай бұрын
Lowkey same
@chadhelms49483 жыл бұрын
What model of Husky is this? FC? I see it has a kickstand. By the way nice video. Love the spin turn
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
The Husky is an FE 350 enduro model. Thanks for the nice words.
@nateapachuau123Ай бұрын
Do i need to press front brake?
@leonardobattaglia80413 жыл бұрын
How to manage with short leg and heavy adv bike?
@coolfriend693 Жыл бұрын
Throttle to be kept constant?
@TWTourist2 жыл бұрын
What about a DCT African Twin?
@hillkiran3 жыл бұрын
Can you do this with a DCT?
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
You can do everything with DCT
@Scott-ri2ek3 жыл бұрын
Cant stop laughing at the 2:00 crash
@chiptaxfree2 жыл бұрын
What size in your bike is that?
@BrakeMagazine2 жыл бұрын
I have a 350 and a 1250 GS for the video.
@chiptaxfree2 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine I've got a 2020 wr250f. KTM exe 500 and a Yamaha t7.
@BrakeMagazine2 жыл бұрын
@@chiptaxfree nice collection!
@jacokoortzen99632 жыл бұрын
What about doing it with a 'dct' bike?
@BrakeMagazine2 жыл бұрын
What about it are you worried about?
@jacokoortzen99632 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine 'DCT' - no clutch. So how to do it?
@BrakeMagazine2 жыл бұрын
@@jacokoortzen9963 The same way. DCT is still a clutch, you just control the throttle bit. If you follow all the steps with leaning the bike over, and the turn the throttle it will do the same thing. Please be careful with this though. On DCT you don't have a way to rescue the problem if you don't get it right. I'd caution you to try and learn it on something else first, just because it can go wrong.
@jacokoortzen99632 жыл бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine Much appreciated, your feedback.
@davehysom26362 жыл бұрын
Great vid. My takeaway: there are 22 things I need to do perfectly the first time, else I'm effed. I would like a video that shows me how to learn one thing at a time. If I have to learn 22 things (a number I just made up) and get them exactly correct the first time, else I'll die ... with all due respect, not really all that helpful.
@BrakeMagazine2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree. That's why a ton of our minitip monday videos are about the foundation skills. 🤣
@armadilllo Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@b.seven_fashion2 жыл бұрын
enjoying 😁
@wnicklas3 жыл бұрын
Simple 😁 Ride safe 👍🏻
@Angry-Lynx3 жыл бұрын
cool. now do that on 950 adv s 😁
@Angry-Lynx3 жыл бұрын
*with full fuel tanks
@CommieHunter73 жыл бұрын
I am short and can usually pull it off on my 990. Best to practice on small bikes and then transition up.
@Angry-Lynx3 жыл бұрын
@@CommieHunter7 but.its hard right. I dunno i always learned on beasts ;
@CommieHunter73 жыл бұрын
@@Angry-Lynx yeah for sure it's hard. Tall bike, heavy. You have to perfectly balance power and lean. If you check the original vid from a while ago, he shows how to do it off the bike, which is a good place to start especially for bigger bikes.
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
It's awkward for sure on a 950/990. They're quite top heavy.
@kloppskalli Жыл бұрын
is there a "how to lift the front in third gear over obastacles" tutorial ? I am a bit scared ...
@BrakeMagazine Жыл бұрын
Learn it first in 3rd gear. Video is on Patreon. 😊
@fonkysahb33522 жыл бұрын
Always wanted to do this since I saw it in The Terminator lol
@robocombo3 жыл бұрын
Also look around before starting. Don't roost your mates / fire gravel into bunnies eyes, create a massive dust cloud
@BrakeMagazine3 жыл бұрын
This. 👌 Should go without saying really 🤣
@MrNicklasson872 жыл бұрын
Also, it helps if you don`t have an expensive bike that you`re scared to drop, like me 😅
@Skiamakhos Жыл бұрын
Shop's giving a bad SSL cert. I accept the risk & continue, it gives a 403 erro: Forbidden.
@juanpaguerrero613 Жыл бұрын
👏👏🔥🔥🔥
@nicflatterie77722 жыл бұрын
Since leg day is not every day, no way I see myself doing that on a GS.
@sameenakausar1020 Жыл бұрын
👌👌🙌🙌👏👏
@LuckyNikitaBoba2 жыл бұрын
It's nice. Get a short guy to do this. Get a rider that is 167 cm.
@44musher Жыл бұрын
I just can't get my Royal Enfield Himalayan to break the tire free....