How to start Bartitsu - la canne Vigny

If you want to learn Bartitsu - This is the right video to start.
I you want to defend yourself you need proper strikes with your cane. This video is all about striking fundamentals for Pierre Vignys "la canne" system.
The basic strikes were taught in an exercise called moulinet.
He created it differently to other French stick fighting systems of that time. Later he became head instructor of the Bartitsu academy of martial arts and physical culture in London.
Bartitsu was a martial art designed for self-defence by Edward Barton Wright in Victorian London.His school taught different martial arts as pugilism or bare knuckle boxing, French boxing known as Savate, Jiu-Jitsu and fighting with the walking cane for Gentlemen.
I use an old slim stick imho one of the best modern sticks you can get for Bartitsu these days.
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We will have a look at that topic from a HEMA point of view. Our historical fencing background gives us insides others may not have.
Using the cane or umbrella to protect us in self defense is still a topic today. But this will be just the view cane masters of the past have on that topic.
Bartitsu got also popular as Arthur Conan Doyle let his figure Sherlock Holmes use Baritsu at the Reichenbach falls against his opponent Professor Moriarty. This makes Bartitsu so famous under Victorian or Edwardian era larper and in the Steampunkt community.
Bartitsu was not the only martial art uses the cane as a weapon, check out our other videos on that topic for example the method of Col. Monstery taught in New York city, be a cane master and join us!
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[@Time-travel-1880]

Thank you for a very informative how to, I’m 63 years old still fit and very active but my days of a full round house are coming to a end and now starting to learn this gentleman’s skill, for my own personal close order protection

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Time-travel-1880 you're welcome 🙏 My goal is to spread the art and I am very happy this video reiches so much interested people 😃 I cant wait to go on 😎 Btw. I hope you're my future, just doing beloved martial art all my live to stay fit and healthy ❤️‍🔥

[@Time-travel-1880]

Fitness and health is a mind set Oliver, never give up, sleep rest well, eat good food and drink lots of good water, enjoy life and keep laughing at yourself, stress is the biggest killer on this planet. I run 20k’s and 5k park runs just for fun and the odd half marathon. I’m ex military and very happy to be alive. Most of all friendship and brotherhood

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Time-travel-1880 that is exactly what I mean ❤️‍🔥 Ecept I didn't like running 😅

[@stefanschleps8758]

Agreed. Have you tried Tai Chi Chuan? Good luck.

[@cp2u1949]

As a 74 year old who has developed mobility problems I use a cane with just about every step I take. I have researched Bartitsu a bit & welcome your step by step approach. Please carry on. 👍

[@OliverJanseps]

@@cp2u1949 Great you found it once before and I am glad to make it a bit easier for you 🙂 You may find the other cane Videos on the channel interesting too 😉

[@davewarrender2056]

Look forward to watching this , I'm a 53 yo vet , disabled , use walking sticks.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@davewarrender2056 let me know what you think about it 😃 You may find other interesting methods to wield the walknig cane here on the channel 😉

[@mfranssens]

En garde! I like this stick fighting. Never heard of Bartitsu before. Thank you Monsieur. Greetings from Manchester 🇬🇧

[@OliverJanseps]

Greetings back to the Homeland of Bartitsu 🙂

[@VicBattlefield]

The movement comes very natural for me since I used to train with nunchucks in my younger days. The cane will come in handy when I get to the age where I can carry a walking stick with me inconspicuously. Merci pour la demonstration!

[@OliverJanseps]

😬 a nunchuck kmows no mercy if the movement is wrong 😂 Btw. I bought a blackthorn cane on a flea market in NY and had to carry it the whole day. I think noone cared about it. Crazy City 😄

[@paleologue]

You know, there were like a boat-load of gangs at my school. This one gang kept wanting me to join because I'm pretty good with a bo staff.

[@OliverJanseps]

As I first read 'school' I taught about a big martial arts school 😅 But high school could be even harder 🙃

[@richardlynch5632]

​@@OliverJanseps 😎👍 Yes the blackthorn sheleighly would be my pick as well. Great history behind it.😎👍👍

[@OliverJanseps]

@@richardlynch5632 yes, very iconic ❤️‍🔥

[@desertstonestudio3315]

Fascinating. I was never aware of such a style. Elegant, conservative, fashionable. A gentleman's martial arts. Brilliant.

[@OliverJanseps]

It's indeed very special. And looks quite elegant for It's powerfull strikes ... but you haven't seen the really elegant movements yet 😉

[@desertstonestudio3315]

@@OliverJanseps I look forward to exploring this skill. It is quite intriguing.

[@OliverJanseps]

It's my pleasure to demonstrade it 😊

[@bongdonky2568]

Its not a legit style.

[@desertstonestudio3315]

@@bongdonky2568 I understand more of the history now and realize it is not technically a style but a combination of styles. I studied some Jujutsu philosophy and was pleased to learn that it is one of the arts borrowed from. That said I would argue that bartitsu is all about style.

[@Buffenmeyer]

This seems like a real gentleman’s martial art. Seems like it could have some therapeutic benefits even if one doesn’t expect to use it. Also the fashion is very agreeable. You’ve captured my interest and I have subscribed.

[@OliverJanseps]

I hope or guess you will find more interesting exercises here. We are not only dealing with 'self defense' on this channel it's kind of martial arts history and physical culter through movement. Stay fit, stay healthy, stay young ❤️‍🔥 Thanks for your subscribtion 🙏

[@DaveCollins123]

Excellent explanation and demonstration - very clear. Clearest I've ever seen!

[@OliverJanseps]

Thank you very much 😃 🙏

[@raptormancro]

Very similar, if not the same as what i've been taught in sidesword.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@raptormancro I guess it depends a little bit to the old sidesword master. but since this is just drilling I could imagine. I was never deep into sidesword, what is a pitty because I like it very much (but time you know). We did more cutty rapier instead. It fits the didactics of more modern styles better. So the students could follow the training more easily 🙂

[@chriskrass2778]

This was amazing and has style. Greetings from Germany.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@chriskrass2778 thank's 🙏😎 And greetings back from Aachen!

[@tomhaney5186]

I've always wondered what I'd do if attacked by a barbershop quartet. Now I know.

[@OliverJanseps]

Sorry that I have to tell you if you get attacked by four singers with canes, it probably end up like in clockwork Orange for you 🙃😉

[@cz6774]

Your presentation is very interesting and entertaining. It was good form to keep your other arm pinned to your back or front to make sure that you don't hit yourself with the cane. That is especially important when you're using a sword.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@cz6774 that's still a fencing habbit of mine 🙂

[@TobiasHarms]

One thing i like about your videos is something it lacks from other channels videos regarding using a stick. Ie, the lack of glorification and being as brutal as possible. Seeing a trainer in other videos getting excited about ripping someone's face off is so distasteful. They have crossed over from self-defence or just martial arts training into what I interpret as "I hope I get to hurt someone with my cane". Yours is to me so much better, serious, and trustworthy.

[@zatrusofnietzche2281]

I practice mostly taijiquan. Recently I painted a practice sword white to remove the idea of battle or shining steel and blood. Its simply not helpful or necessary to focus on inflicting harm. I also decided to paint my sword so as not to scare children, dogs or tourists on the beach as i practice. I was pleasantly surprised when one gentleman shook my hand saying "I can see your swordsman technique " and he was impressed that i was able to make people relaxed and smile as I played so lightly with my (assumed) plastic swords. I very much enjoy being seen as non threatening even with swords or spears, etc. I am "el maestro de blanko " ,Guru or Senpai . A gentleman to all ! I often have to interrupt my training as holiday makers ask to join or to make friends with the many little doggies 🐕 that are only friendly to myself. Perception can be very placid and a useful defence. Enjoy your day ☯️ 🙏

[@OliverJanseps]

@@TobiasHarms thank you very much for this. I wasn't aware of the cane being part so many self defence movements. It was interesting to discover them and I was suprised by some hard stuff as well.

[@TobiasHarms]

It might be my background in iwama aikido, or thanks to my teachers, but while I think that weapon practice or martial art practice in general should be fun and with a light heart, i also believe that it should be done with respect for the weapon, the partner and a possible real opponent.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@TobiasHarms of course there is a time and a place for violence. But I am lucky to life in a place of the world, I dont need it. Doing martial arts is mostly about health for me and I hope I will never find out if it will work in a situation to safe my life.

[@ericlamkin9606]

This is fantastic! I hope you continue the topic of the Vigny Cane.

[@OliverJanseps]

Glad you like it. First time I saw this, I liked it, but I did not see why other were totally flashed by it. I admit, it changed 😅 and we will definetely do more of it 😃

[@robohippy]

I first heard the quote "Hold the sword as you would a bird. Too tight and you kill it. Too loose and it flies away" in an old black and white Hollywood movie about Cyrano de'Bergerac who made that comment after disarming a student. I use it all the time when teaching people how to hold their tools when learning to use the wood lathe....

[@OliverJanseps]

@@robohippy also a good man to listen to 😁 The sentence fit into every kind of tool. And it's nice to hear of the context you using it in 😊 People tend to do so, because they are 'scared' or they think they have to for no reason 😅

[@patslee1394]

remembered the 1 stick from tv series elementary. good to see a youtube channel showing the system 👍

[@OliverJanseps]

@@patslee1394 never watched the series, but I remember a scene my girlfriend at that time showed me with singlesticks and eggs involved 😁

[@kevincurtis7917]

All of the movements appear to my eye to be essentially throwing the outer end of the stick without letting go of the stick.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@kevincurtis7917 yes, at it's base it's a simple throwing pattern 👌

[@Mighty-Man]

Interesting. First time in my life I see such a martial art.

[@OliverJanseps]

Till one point in my life I had like most of us more knowledge about Asian martial arts then (our) European traditions. But there are still enough traditions in the World to discover ❤️‍🔥

[@hoa8954]

Nice work, mate! Cheers from the US!

[@OliverJanseps]

@@hoa8954 thank's my friend overseas!

[@peterjaimez1619]

Oliver my friend, that's the beauty of it, I use a string which with my arm fully extended won't hit my face, and I can use it at maximum length were there is room, and at a reduced length indoors . With fingers and a bit of wrist (like you are supposed to use a foil) with more wrist and elbow, with shoulders or any combination 👍😀 also at each end I have a different weight, so the movement varies. With the heavier one is a bit more challenging (and dangerous), with the lighter is easier and safe. I use it for other things too! ❤ like wand exercises, and counting, very useful ☀😇 Cheers

[@OliverJanseps]

@@peterjaimez1619 ah, I see 😊 I didn't read about your tool the first time 😉👏

[@Fred-px5xu]

You Sir have impressed me with you technical expertise on the subject. While cain fighting may have some overlapping techniques from saber etc.. It should be; however ,delivered like a light mace. And Sir bye your extension of elbow and wrist twirl, you demonstrated proper execution. I enjoyed your video demonstration and lecture immensely. I , as usual, eagerly await you next video lecture.

[@OliverJanseps]

I am glad you liked it. The canne Vigny is indeed somewhat different or special from other cane (and sabre) methods. Thank you Sir, it's always nice to read your comments 🙏

[@freakdye]

Excellent pointers as always kind sir🎉

[@OliverJanseps]

@@freakdye Hi, Nice to reach out Sir! I see on your channel you did some old school physical culture exercises too. I will have a look at this later 😃

[@robinharwood5044]

I didn’t know it was permissible for a gentleman to practice Bartitsu without having a moustache.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@robinharwood5044 I am one of these young rebels 😎

[@RedeArinella2024]

😂

[@emmetworkshop2829]

It's permissible if you have compensatory sideburns.

[@OliverJanseps]

Puh... lucky for me 😅

[@wizrom3046]

It's allowed if you have Victorian era suspenders

[@ChorltonBrook]

For once YT has suggested something I might be interested in -,thanks for the upload & subbed

[@OliverJanseps]

@@ChorltonBrook thank you 🙏 I am also very happy YT seems to find people which like the topic 😃

[@peterjaimez1619]

At last Lang 👍 love ❤ your take on it 👍. I'm waiting to see how you do the "flip" & the "flick" your have the best videos on internet. Thank you! Cheers

[@OliverJanseps]

You said it my friend: to learn canne Vigny there is no way around Lang. He has the propper didactics beside the fancy demonstrations in The Persons article 👍 Thank you so much 🙏

[@peterjaimez1619]

Thank you 🙏 I think now i understand. I believe that it could limber the legs and give equilibrium 😀 I forget that those exercises were for children (very flexible people) a video eventually would be a nice addition 🤔 I'm glad you know about Fairbairn, very concise, but interesting material, cane, knife, naked hands etc. Cheers

[@OliverJanseps]

If I find someone who could do this well, I will do a video for you -like I did with the squats 😅 - because since you should do not bend your upper body that much, I am out on this one, 😄 Fairbairn is truely an very interesting personality. And we will come back to his sequence at time, I promiss 😁

[@MichaelBall-uu5lg]

Fascinating subject I’ve always made my own sticks

[@OliverJanseps]

@@MichaelBall-uu5lg I will give that back I always wanted to make proper sticks and staffs, but it would be to complex in my Region because of the right wood 😔 So I leave that to the handy ones 😊

[@MichaelBall-uu5lg]

@@OliverJanseps blackthorn ash yew always gather in winter these days are top woods on the janka scale

[@OliverJanseps]

@@MichaelBall-uu5lg you see, I had to Google the janka scale 😅 But I know the wood you mentioned 😉

[@studer6884]

Any access to Cornelian Cherry​@@OliverJanseps

[@holdmybeerandwatchthis4053]

Thank you! A very good introduction

[@OliverJanseps]

@@holdmybeerandwatchthis4053 Thank you 🙏

[@andrejshamin1452]

Интересный стиль, для настоящих джентльменов😊

[@OliverJanseps]

The true Gentlemen carries a small mace 😎 😉

[@paleologue]

Что это с русскими и их одержимостью аристократией? Настоящий джентльмен! Я думал, вы, ребята, убили своего царя и приняли пролетариат. О, подождите, вы прошли путь от царя Николая до царя Сталина и до царя Путина.

[@fellrunner1964]

Watching this brings back fond memories of my childhood and times spent fencing with my younger brother in the garden, he with a large garden cane and myself with the cane that my grandfather owned Unbeknownst to me was that hidden within the rather unassuming walking stick was a long slender blade. From a time in England when such an item was popular with gentlemen from a generations ago. Not so today though.. Thanks for sharing. 👏👏🍺

[@OliverJanseps]

That is one of those stories 🥰 Thank you 👍👍

[@fellrunner1964]

@@OliverJanseps ..My pleasure and thank you Sir… The cane was sold some time ago to a collector, which is rather unfortunate. However I do still have his old fencing foil, used for practice. Quite battered and dented which adds to its charm and character. On the hand guard, if that’s the correct terminology, is stamped the maker; Wilkinsons Sword. A British company founded by Henry Nock, in London 1772.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@fellrunner1964 sounds like a nice piece of history too 😃

[@Old52Guy]

I have been looking for this kind of channel for a long time. I haver gotten a lot older since I first trained in judo and aikido. Physically, I can no longer do what I once could do. Baritsu looks like it might be just the thing. Definitely subscribing.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Old52Guy and I am looking for the few people out there my content is interesting, because, lets be honest it's 'special' 😅 Glad you found it 🙂👍👍

[@Old52Guy]

@@OliverJanseps Well then, serendipity brought us together! Your channel looks like a lot of fun and the kind of information I need. Thanks

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Old52Guy you're very welcome ❤️‍🔥

[@KellyTribble]

Based on the number of views, this is a very popular video! I hope you will do more like it. It is very well done and inspires me to get out there and start to train. Thank you!

[@OliverJanseps]

Yes, the algorythem seems to like it 😅 I will definetely do some follow ups for you and all the others liked this video when am back from vacation 🙂 But I really happy about the fact you gave it a try 😃❤️‍🔥

[@putty1961]

Excellent have never seen this type of fighting style before

[@OliverJanseps]

@@putty1961 stay on, we are just starded 😎😉

[@jf5078]

Neat video. I have never looked much into cane fighting but I like single stick, sabre, and staff so it looks very similar with a slightly different context.

[@OliverJanseps]

Yes, it's definetely a small step over from your background ... and as in sabre there are also various methods. So one will find some fitting for his sabre style ... or dive into the next ranbit hole 😆

[@jf5078]

Monstery's book is on my next to buy list, its too bad he didn't write any books on foil or sabre though.

[@OliverJanseps]

The book by Ben Miller is really good and very entertaining. Monstery were a very interesting personality. I could easily think of an movie about his life 😅

[@KernowekTim]

Excellent. Many thanks to you. I am sixty-five years of age. My Great-Grand-Father's ebony walking cane with it's ornate solid silver pommel is up-stairs in my bedroom. To "keep it safe". It is as sturdy as the old man who first owned it was. Hard-times beget hard people. Cornish hard-rock tin mining honed it, in his case. I, in turn, am a former Cornish tin miner. I rather fancy the cane will out-live me also😉

[@OliverJanseps]

@@KernowekTim well Sir, this really sounds as a beauty of a cane in my mind! Those are family stories worth to tell 🙂

[@kieranlock3070]

Excellent video! I will include this as a warm up for singlestick

[@OliverJanseps]

Some moulinettes will suit the Single stick well. If you like doing Single stick from hanging guard even better 🙂👌

[@kieranlock3070]

@OliverJanseps I've been told it's better to fight from inside or outside guard, but it seems better to fight from hanging as I'm not a tall man so it helps against those with reach.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@kieranlock3070 from a Christmann point of view I could not more agree 😉

[@kieranlock3070]

@@OliverJanseps I will keep that in mind 😆

[@Timeblade_Guild]

Super! Such an informative and interesting tutorials! 🤺

[@OliverJanseps]

🙏 it was longer then expected, I am curious how long the video will be watched by the viewers "without hitting people" 😅

[@Timeblade_Guild]

@@OliverJanseps lol. “panem et circenses” (c) Juvenal. In my opinion it’s right enough. Not too long, not too short. Very informative and nicely structured! Hope to see part 2, 3 and so on.

[@OliverJanseps]

For sure, but the next video will be about an very "unexpected" weapon in HEMA 😉🤫

[@Timeblade_Guild]

@@OliverJanseps Can’t wait 😆

[@OliverJanseps]

​@@Timeblade_Guildsorry I didn't get the edeting in time. You have to wait till next monday, but thos time it's set 🙂

[@TenaciousDanzig]

Excellent presentation, thank you. Got me interested in getting a stick!

[@OliverJanseps]

@@TenaciousDanzig take one, it must be fun, children do it 😉

[@TenaciousDanzig]

@@OliverJanseps Do you know or recommend somewhere I could get one like yours in the UK? I was actually looking at getting a staff initially from a standard martial arts retailer, but I quite like the idea of getting something bespoke too

[@OliverJanseps]

@@TenaciousDanzig as I said the slim stick is unfortunately not in production anymore, but as far as I know the 'Nephilim canes' are quite nice and they are indeed eye candy. They are based in UK just google it, but I know just about a Facebook page.

[@TenaciousDanzig]

@@OliverJanseps Many thanks, I'll check it out. I look forward to seeing more of your content!

[@OliverJanseps]

@@TenaciousDanzig you're welcome 🙂 and thank you 🙏😊

[@bertokleine280]

Thanks for this lovely vid.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@bertokleine280 you're very welcome 😊 Glad you like it, stay here for more 😉

[@mattnobrega6621]

Never heard of this before. I did see something on other types of stick fighting as well as shileighly defefense and jogo de pau(portuguese stick fighting)which might be similar. Nice video. Thank you 😊👍

[@OliverJanseps]

You're welcome 🙏 The two styles you mentioned are also some most poeple will definetely don't know 😉 If you stay a bit on this channel, we will discover some more stick fighting arts 🙂

[@boogboog8097]

To build wrist and forearms indoors go to a tool store and buy a good size hammer, engineers ball pein come in a range of weights, you can move your grip from the middle to the end of the handle to increase difficulty, its very effective and also builds small muscle co ordination of your weak side (you should train both) This co ordination is why your dominant side can punch or throw much harder than your weak side. Most people actually are almost equally strong L R but the power comes from co ordination.

[@OliverJanseps]

I can not agree more! 👌

[@DarksteelHeart]

Some further study in a similar vein to this is the Jō, a short staff style from japan. The only duel that Musashi was in that wasnt a decisive victory for him. It amounted to a draw. I subscribed. Ill have a look at your catalogue

[@OliverJanseps]

@@DarksteelHeart thank's! I hope you will find more of interest here 🙏 Actually I did a few years of Aikido in my youth and so some Aiki-jo. Jodo is very rare in my area. The Trainer was very pashionated, it my be one reason for my love of 'pole arms' 🤔

[@Raykenn1]

Very informative, thanks for posting 👍

[@OliverJanseps]

You're welcome 🙂 Spread the art ❤️‍🔥

[@alexderkombinator3385]

Super!👍

[@OliverJanseps]

@@alexderkombinator3385 glad you like it 😃👌I hope you find some more videos you like at this channel 😎

[@kliderskope3662]

Ok, so this was a cool random KZbin suggestion. I always wondered why Victorian gentle carried canes. Fascinating to watch and I think I would actually enjoy doing this, I’m not sure I will start carrying a cane though.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@kliderskope3662 🙂 I am happy the algorythem did it's job well at this point 😁 Sidenote, the method was also used for umbrellas 😉 But I carry neither too (if it's not raining).

[@kliderskope3662]

@@OliverJanseps here in the UK it rains a lot……. 😁

[@OliverJanseps]

@@kliderskope3662 we have com to a full circle 😄 🌂

[@JohnSmith-il4wi]

Liked the video, subscribed. Thanks from Chicago

[@OliverJanseps]

@@JohnSmith-il4wi thank you for your support, I hope you will find more interesting Videos here 🙂

[@josepsanchezrojo04]

Thank you very much sir.

[@OliverJanseps]

You're welcome, glad it find some people who like it 🙏

[@VTPSTTU]

Thanks for the video.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@VTPSTTU you're welcome, I hope you will find some more interesting videos on the channel 🙂

[@wmgthilgen]

In the U.S.A. such a stick with an object on the end is considered a "CLUB"; Weapon. Thus tough similar, the utilizing of a walking cane providing it has a crook aka hook, is perfectly legal any where.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@wmgthilgen different countries, different laws. But as much as I like nob canes as they could be real art, I would always choose a hooked cane, may it be a round or derby grip.

[@lindsayheyes925]

Now I know how this martial art might have looked. Two of the most famous Edwardian lepidopterists - A.B. Farn and F.W. Frohawk - seem to have discussed Bartitsu. Frohawk regularly walked great distances through the night and frequented a gym. Farn - who was very fit but had a badly set leg from getting run over and so was an obvious target for robbers - told Frohawk how he'd had to use an umbrella to defend himself after out-running two assailants but being run down by a third. Farn would have been in his late sixties at the time. The Luton boater, bowler, or Homburg all give significant protection to the head.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@lindsayheyes925 nice story! Edwardian lepidopterists are may even more unknows to the people 😅 Thank you! In case of the hats, you are equal with some masters who told us not to hit the hat directly because it will just harm the hat. Instead attack the face or in case of a tophat strike ut to the ground first 🙃

[@DarksteelHeart]

Miyamoto Musashi says very similar things about handling a sword. A light grip, do not strangle your hilt. Very interesting. I've heard basics about Bartitsu, but this is more in depth.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@DarksteelHeart thank you very much! The goal is to spread the art, so your confirmation makes my happy 🙂 It has also been a long time since I have read the book of five rings, I maybe should take it of the bookshelf again 🤔

[@user-nj7zz1ry5z]

Мастер, вы хорошо показали удары на дистанции. Пожалуйста покажите вашу технику использования трости в ближнем бою. Удачи!

[@OliverJanseps]

@@user-nj7zz1ry5z I will take a while, but we will also cover that topic 🙂👍 In the meantime you may have a look on the recent Umbrella Video to see the bayonet grip in motion: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJTHqpyVnNCDqJY

[@catyear75]

It’s All in the Hat 🎩!

[@OliverJanseps]

@@catyear75 😂 thank you! Made my day 😃

[@shosholozabalafon2436]

excellent video ! may i add that all the techniques showed apply perfectly to a collapsible/telescopic baton 😃

[@OliverJanseps]

@@shosholozabalafon2436 thank you 🙏 And yes, absolutely! The cane fightung is Stick fighting. The longer - the better 😉

[@roughy762004]

Peeked my interest, subscribed

[@OliverJanseps]

Welcome to the channel, be curious 🙂

[@richardlynch5632]

Very glad to have found this, your channel. Am proficient with nunchucks. So...taking the broken cane and making it whole again makes sense.😉👍👍

[@OliverJanseps]

@@richardlynch5632 😆because I read your other comment before I instantly had an image of an shillelagh-nunchuck in mind. That would be a clash of cultures indeed 😁

[@richardlynch5632]

@@OliverJanseps We could make a FORTUNE...!!!😂👍

[@OliverJanseps]

@@richardlynch5632 😂😂😂

[@lenwenzel7440]

Interesting this is the first time I've seen bartitsu. I've done a little Arnis. The cane movements are very different then Escrima sticks. I will look forward to seeing more of your art.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@lenwenzel7440 I have done Eskrima for some years and you are right, the dynamics are different, but it has also some things in common. Good news, you must not wait long. Next video should be up on Monday 🙂

[@lenwenzel7440]

@@OliverJanseps I like how elegant the walking stick looks like; I can see myself out for a stroll in the evening. Probably without the skimmer though, even though its very classy, it's just not my style. ;)

[@OliverJanseps]

@@lenwenzel7440 then maybe with a Panama hat near the beach 🤗

[@michaelspyrou1784]

i like it. thanks

[@OliverJanseps]

Thank you 🙏 Just working on the second video to fulfill what I promissed 🙃

[@markheinkel8247]

This is similar to savate. Nice stylish outfit by the way!!

[@OliverJanseps]

Savate is like the Sister art of la canne 🙂👌 And it's high on my list for some videos too 😉 Thank you very much Sir 🙏

[@markheinkel8247]

@@OliverJanseps es ist mir eine Ehre!

[@OliverJanseps]

@@markheinkel8247 es ist mir eine Ehre dich hier begrüßen zu dürfen!

[@davidyoung745]

It’s interesting how the moulinet (sp?) fors the basis of training for walking stick, saber, and even some Bowie knife systems.

[@OliverJanseps]

Yes, it was spead all over European fencing. Everything that cuts - moulinettes 😄 Moulinettes is French (like the famous moulin rouge). The Italians call it mulinello the the British and German (also they have 'Schwingungen') used the French word, as well as I saw never a Spanish word for it. The few Spanish I know used the moulinet as they adopted the sabre from France as it were en vouge at that time.

[@peterjaimez1619]

👍 You might be interested that it is possible to do the exercises with a simple piece of string, with a small weight attached, using mostly the fingers, and a bit of the wrist, very good to strengthen them, coordination and fun. Also you can do it anywhere 🤗 .Cheers

[@OliverJanseps]

@@peterjaimez1619 yeah that would solve the problem with Langs advise 👌 But it is necessary to use the fingers instaed of the wrist only?

[@razrasmos1033]

Wow that’s interesting

[@OliverJanseps]

Thank's Next part will be up on monday, I would be glad to welcome you here again 😉🙂

[@buddy.spencer]

Thank you, from France 😁💖

[@OliverJanseps]

You're welcome! All the best to France, Homeland of la canne and savate ❤️‍🔥

[@buddy.spencer]

@@OliverJanseps that a pleasure and really to learn french typical stuff from a foreigner. Thank you for making our culture alive 💖

[@OliverJanseps]

😃❤️‍🔥 this was really nice to read! It's always the exotic. That's way Asian martial arts went big here. And guess how many historical fencing clubs do German sabre and how many British military sabre and beoadsword 🙃 I dont know, but I know which is the majority 😁

[@JK-zq9vw]

I use a cane for my Disability, in fact I used that exact cane for a few years. The rough grooves from machining and the divots are hard on the hand after a while. I liked the weighted head though and got it to use for a bit of protection at the time. I’ve looked into using it as a weapon to protect myself but I found that I could actually be charged like a person using brass knuckles. It’s not a guarantee but just a possibility. That kinda made me mad. I’m at a disadvantage but not only could I land in jail but the attacker (if they aren’t armed, even though I’m at a distinct disadvantage) could file a lawsuit against me. I just found that disheartening. I guess I’ll go back to my first option and get my concealed carry permit that way I’m allowed to carry and use that weapon if I’m attacked. And the dead can’t sue (there families might, but they won’t)… that’s just a joke, I’d hate to have to take another persons life away. My injuries took away a lot of my life and I don’t want any to have to go through all, part of , or even more than what I have.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@JK-zq9vw I would agree that this is not a good walking aid, its for strolling uppermost. Real self defense is a topic for it's own and there is more then using a tool to create an advantage. If one is not trained well and cant switch into the roght mindset at time it does not play a role if one has a self defense cane or a simple umbrella from the store next door or even nothing. Stay safe, don't be there!

[@numismatric]

Exceptionally good... ;)

[@OliverJanseps]

@@numismatric thank you very much 🙂🙏

[@426mak]

It makes me think of Fan Techniques in Kung Fu using every day items for selfdefense.

[@OliverJanseps]

If I think about every day items in Kung Fu I always think first of the bench 😅 But I like the fan as an elegant short stick very much 🙂

[@426mak]

@@OliverJanseps When folded up its great for trapping wrists and some are made of metal.

[@OliverJanseps]

@426mak it's not hard to imagine 😃 Definetely more then a improved weapon for places whete knifes and daggers were forbidden 👍👍

[@babaoreally8220]

Never realized that this was an actual combat or defense discipline.The last time I saw anything similar was when watching old Bat Masterson episodes,but he carried a cane,so as not to be so obvious.Apparently there are many skill levels,as in other arts.

[@OliverJanseps]

And I never heard of Bat Masterson before 😅 Neither the historical person nor the TV Show 🙃 Thanks 🤝

[@babaoreally8220]

@@OliverJanseps He was a quite proper,fancy,well dressed,Wild West figure.Should be some shows on KZbin to check out.

[@OliverJanseps]

O am indeed a bit curious 😄 Those old TV Shops have their own special Charme today 🙃

[@babaoreally8220]

@@OliverJanseps I watched a video,some years back,on the history of the Shillelagh.As I recall, they were made from blackthorn or briar.Those we’re also quite interesting,but no thing on art and technique on using it.Probably very similar deployment for those.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@babaoreally8220 there are infact some living linages on irish shillelagh and a few historical advises, and I got already a nich blackthorn cane 😉 It is indeed a long time project to discover various forms of old time cane and stuff methods 😊

[@peterjaimez1619]

Also like the hat & stick, Cold Steel? And love ❤ the trick, with the tape. Cheers

[@OliverJanseps]

@@peterjaimez1619 in the mean time I got comfortable with the hat, I actually liked it, as summer started here 😄 It's a slim stick, unfortunately Cold Steel took them out of production years ago.

[@jamellelangfordiii3586]

Reminds me kinda of SCA heavy combat

[@OliverJanseps]

@@jamellelangfordiii3586 as I am not from the US my knowledge about the SCA is very rudimentary 🙃 Could be, thanks for the information 🙂👍

[@jamellelangfordiii3586]

@OliverJanseps SCA, the Society for Creative Anachronism, is all over the world.... it is by no means a proper martial art. It is a recreational sport at best. Just that we use rattan "swords" when we fight and the way you use your momentum with the swings reminds me of when I used to fight heavies.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@jamellelangfordiii3586 It's basic striking, it does not suprise me if something like that is find in varies systems. If you watch the new video from today, the riposts I demonstrade are very different to other Systems I know. But it totally shows the fundamentals many builts on 🙂👍

[@zatrusofnietzche2281]

Its possible to change direction very quickly by directing the cane into the arm pit then simply reverse. This reversal of direction can be very fast. Example-kick the bottom of the cane up towards the groin, when blocked or contact is made simply swap direction of the swing to a overhead strike. I use a curved handle cane mostly so i can rapidly spin the cane like a helicopter blade swapping from one side to the other. Its very intimidating 🤔

[@OliverJanseps]

This quick direction changes after a parry is infact also done in the system 👌 But I have a question about the helicopter because it is something I am thinking about right now. Is this something originated in Eastern martial arts, kung fu or something similar?

[@Yevhen_Bilchuk]

Thank you for the video. It is necessary to indicate how to select a cane for your anthropometric characteristics.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Yevhen_Bilchuk that depends if you use a cane for a walk (than it could be somewhat longer) or you need it as walking aid. For this style of fighting I would choose a ligther cane (at least in the beginning). Its not bad to handle a rattan stick and use a thick rubber ferule at the end. The Man who created this system is famous for his rattan cane with silver ball at the end. If one has to choose, it would be speed over weight. I hope that answered your question right 🙂

[@Yevhen_Bilchuk]

@@OliverJanseps Thank you, Oliver

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Yevhen_Bilchuk you're welcome 🙂

[@cesarcastaneda62]

I suscribe 😊🇲🇽

[@OliverJanseps]

@@cesarcastaneda62 thank you very much 🙂🙏

[@radaro.9682]

As I started the video my blue light filter came on and the screen went sepia.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@radaro.9682 😄 Have a look at the Bartitsu short, I had a bit fun letting it look a bit old school 🙃😉

[@andersholmstrom3571]

Interresting. I have done fencing with rapier and florette in my youth. Perhaps that experience wuold help also with a cane?

[@OliverJanseps]

@@andersholmstrom3571 definetely! European cane methods were based on the experience the fencingmasters had on the sabre as a striking art. Fencing as 'the' European martial art delivers the whole idea of fighting in our culture especially with weapons but also boxing for example.

[@1369usmc]

Can this be adapted to a crook ended cane? The grappling aspect would be a nice addition.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@1369usmc yes, it could be done with a crooked cane and I think a derby would be a good choice too. Actually there are three hooking techniques left for us in this system. And we already does a video about it 😎 be my guest and have a look 🙂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmq3c4yXeJKNopo

[@stefanschleps8758]

This is very useful. I appreciate your sharing with us. Thank you! Train for life. Keep practice. Laoshr #60 Ching Yi Kung Fu Association

[@OliverJanseps]

@@stefanschleps8758 Thank you 🙏 Sharing is caring 😉 Keep spreading your art ❤️‍🔥👍

[@Askalona-qm9uz]

You from London ?? Your English very good !! Sorry of my Crazy English , sir !!

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Askalona-qm9uz 😅 I am from Germany and most of the time I got to hear I would have an awful accent 🙃 But thank you 🙏

[@peterjaimez1619]

You probably know James I. Pearson, who had a small article on cane called "Manner of carrying cane is acquired by practise in ancient asset of defense" with a short form (kata) if so do you know more about him? Cheers

[@OliverJanseps]

I read the article on HEMAmisfits once, that's all I know 🙃 And I do not gave it a practical try till now but it's on my list for a little fun in between 😉

[@user-fc3ij5oc6l]

I like it 👍 Where is the balance point of the proper cane?

[@OliverJanseps]

Good question. I actually never tought about it. But I guess it's also more on the overall weight. Every cane I had in hand would has been okay. But I can measure some of mine if you want me to 😉

[@OliverJanseps]

@@user-fc3ij5oc6l sorry, I lost the comment 😅 The canes I used have all (by accident (?)) the pob round about 25cm from the knob. And I like it 🙃

[@user-fc3ij5oc6l]

@@OliverJanseps Thanks a lot👍

[@OliverJanseps]

@@user-fc3ij5oc6l you're welcome 🙂

[@russbarker2727]

Oliver, thank you for a fascinating video. I used to practice Karate many years ago. I am 61 now and have to walk with a stick. However, is it possible to practice this with a wooden stick? Mine is normal really with a "T" shaped handle.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@russbarker2727 you're welcome 🙂 Sure you can practise this style with nearly all canes. Just use the handle as serving end. You may have a look at the weight in the beginning. Have fun and btw. We will discover more different fighting styles for the cane from the past 😊

[@russbarker2727]

@@OliverJanseps Excellent. I look forward to seeing them.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@russbarker2727 😃 I finished part II for this style yesterday. It will be up on Monday. Let me know what you think of it 👍

[@michaelbedford8017]

In your back garden, fine. If you went around town dressed like that, with your stick, you'd soon find yourself either arrested or dead.

[@OliverJanseps]

Hopefully not, ... that's a park 🙃

[@youtubesux6361]

What is the distance? Am i aiming to make contact with the sweet spot like 4 inches to 8 inches in on the cane? Thanks for the content

[@OliverJanseps]

No there is no need for a sweet spot. Those are blade related for a propper cut. Using the cane like this is actually like hitting with a mace. Aim with the weight at the end 😃

[@prepperstate9505]

Impressive. Is your cane wood with metal top or is it all metal?

[@OliverJanseps]

neither nor. It is actually a carbon fiber shaft. Which makes em very durchlesen and extrem light. Nearly all the weight is in the ball head.

[@marvelo4090]

Where can I purchase a slim cane low weight and graduate to higher weight? I hope you do more videos

[@OliverJanseps]

Unfortunately I have no außer for that. The Stimme stick by cold steel is not in production anymore 😕 But for straining purpose, it need not to be beautyfull. You can experiment with (ash) sticks of different diameters and use lead tape to give the end different weights.

[@peterjaimez1619]

Hi, again Oliver 😀 two questions: 1.- Turner wand page 35 illustration 4, wand between the legs, I'm correct in assuming that you move first, exercise VII, with one grip (do the Turner steps) and then change grips and repeat? & 2.- Do you know that Fairbairn of "get tough," "defendu", has a routine with the cane? Cheers

[@OliverJanseps]

1) yes, exercise VII has two variations: palm up and palm down. The exercises are not about stepping out, but stepping over the wand one leg after another and back. 2) yes, and I was thinking about a small video on that with a few toughts 🙂 It's historicaly a bit late, but anyway 🙃

[@roughy762004]

This is a French cane martial art? I'm new to the channel, so, forgive my ignorance. I've seen something like this demonstrated before years ago by some people who taught cane fight 12:11 along with Savate.

[@OliverJanseps]

Dont worry, this channel is all about spreading the knowledge of nearly forgotten arts ❤️‍🔥😃 This is a variation of French la canne (stick or cane fighting). This style is a bit different in its body mechanics and the way using the stick with the gripping end upside down. The creator was invided to teach his style at the Bartitsu academy in London. And yes, Savate is like the sister art of la canne 😊

[@caiusnomade8887]

SHOW DE MOVIMENTOS

[@OliverJanseps]

@@caiusnomade8887 and there will be more 🙂👍

[@dominicbrandl7843]

Gibt es da auch empty hands?

[@OliverJanseps]

Bartitsu war ein Hybridsystem bestehend aus mehreren Einzeldisziplinen, die ander Schule gelehrt wurden. Darunter fand sich neben dem Stockkampf auch englisches Boxen, französisches Savate (Kickboxen), schweizer Ringen und Jiu-Jitsu aus Japan. Also ja, genügend 🙂

[@jamesw713]

Sadly Cold Steel doesn't make the slim stick anymore. What is the weight of your stick? I have the newer Pistol Grip City Stick by CS with an added rubber tip for walking on smooth surfaces. It weighs about 20 oz (580 g). Also, I like the tip for the tape wrap. I have problems keeping the cane from sliding in my hand when trying pommel forward moulinets. A bit of hockey tape should help. One other question, how far from the end should your hand be? I've seen demonstrations with the tip being close to the wrist and others with the tip almost back to the elbow. Thanks again. And, this has been shared to my HEMA group.

[@OliverJanseps]

That's truely a pity. It was more or less a spontanious buy after my first Bartitsu class 😅 It's a really light weight 6.7oz (190g) H.G. Lang wrote it should be held six inch from the tip. But in my experience it varies a bit depending on overall lenght and weight of the head. There is a position which should feel quite natural.

[@jamesw713]

@@OliverJanseps, thanks again. I did have students choke up on the stick when they had problems with controlling the tip. Finding an 8 or 9-ounce stick will be the challenge. With a stick that light, the movements would be easier than with my heavier sticks (20oz city sticks & even heavier Hame cane). With the heavier sticks, it makes more sense to keep the weighted end closer to my hand, like a counterbalance. That speeds up the broadsword/saber-style cuts I make. I will have to figure out a light stick just to figure out this way of manipulating the strikes, even if it is a wooden dowel with a rubber end.

[@OliverJanseps]

You don't have to go that lite. But a good training option is a simple rattan stick (which suits canne Vigny very well) with a rubber ferule on the wrong end 🙃

[@WilliamMurrey-uj1ve]

1st time watching. I tried using a 31 inch arrow. I was going to add a little bit of weight on the end. Would this be a good way to begin?

[@OliverJanseps]

31 inch, that's a really long arrow (I did not they could be so long) Sounds like a good Substitution to learn the movements in the beginning 👍👍

[@FramaryGmbH]

These movements are looking a little bit close to basic Mensur-Fencing in German Studendt Brotherhoods. Of course there are differences, but obviously the safety of the own head keeping arm and hand and weapon above the own head and in front of yourself

[@OliverJanseps]

You are not the first ine mentioned this and I see the similarities in this exercises. If it comes to 'Real' parry riposte there will be a lot more body involved to generate power.

[@FramaryGmbH]

@@OliverJanseps In German Mensur the Paukant (fighter) in a fixed distance stands still, only moving the right or left arm. This is with the so called "Schläger", the sharpened fencing weapon, only target the head of the opponent under strong rules. I by myself did 4 of these fights in my student times. In old times with saber it was with moving. Even nowadays in Austria the classical Mensur is with some kind of mowing. They have there own rules.

[@OliverJanseps]

@FramaryGmbH I am also from Germany (but never participated a Mensur). I was lucky to participate a class from a professionell Mensur Fechtmeister, learned a lot. (You could not know that) I am familiar with it's history as part of fencing history (have a look at some other stuff of my channel) but what you say about Austrien Mensur is interesting. I guess it is hard to find online, so may I ask about some more Details? I am curious 🙂

[@FramaryGmbH]

@@OliverJanseps gib mir mal Deine email, dann können wir auch deutsch schreiben

[@OliverJanseps]

Wir können auch hier auf Deutsch schreiben, kein Problem für mich. Tatsächlich fiel mit grade ein, dass ich mich verlesen haben muss und dass du nicht australisch sondern österreichisch geschrieben haben musst 🙃 Wobei ich die Unterschiede trotzdem nicht zu kennen scheine. Mal abgesehen davon, dass der Penalsäbel noch größere Bedeutung hat.

[@Hank-r3h]

What is the word he uses? Mullinaise (spelled as I heard it)?😊

[@OliverJanseps]

Close 😊 It's 'Moulinette' it is the common French word for this kind of fencing exercise. It just means 'mill' You would have heared about the 'moulin rouge' 😉

[@Hank-r3h]

@@OliverJanseps Thank you. 😊

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Hank-r3h you're very welcome 🙂

[@Azmania3000]

Was this ever used in a fight? That flicky wrist stuff looks mechanicalky weak. Especially where the wrist is turned inward, towards the body. I think ill just stay with my tennis strokes and mix that with a few fencing parries.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Azmania3000 this is upper most just a conditioning drill, but dont underastimat the Power behind a small metal ball at that speed and the power a well trained wrist could deliver. We have mire Systems working like that, looking it that way it cant be that wrong 🙂 But a good 'Tennis stroke' would also be a finisher, that's for sure 😄

[@Azmania3000]

@@OliverJanseps Ok that's a relief. I was certainly taking the wrong perspective. Have to agree that delivering accurate shots would be capable of cracking bone. Practice is key, as you are demonstrating. Excelsior!

[@OliverJanseps]

@Azmania3000 the Bartitsu Video comming up on monday talks a bit mire about Power generating for ripostes. You may tell me your thoughts on that later 🙂👍

[@Azmania3000]

@@OliverJanseps ok you got me. Just subbed. As stated I used to play a lot of tennis, and a long long time ago did a smidge of fencing. So this lost art you are reviving has definitely peaked my interest. I actually used the fencing lunge as a basis to inline skating stride. Perhaps this can merge some ultimate form of Gene Kelly and Sherlock Holmes as a steampunk superhero 😂.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@Azmania3000 the best thing one can do is to use what suites your skills. I mean, a boxer can show you a hook, but damn, I don't want to receive a slap from you 😅😆 If you put in Charly Chaplin into your superhero concept, I am in 🤣

[@Matteo-ks6fn]

"You europeans have no martial Arts!" Ancient gladiators, boxer and wrestlers leave the chat en block.

[@OliverJanseps]

Exactly 👌 Not to say the Japanese were facinated by European boxing and fencing. Included it in their style of swordfifhting as well as Kano praised boxing as free randori -the same way he wanted to go with his judo. Their is no culture on earth without an martial art. Human were always good to 'create' something to fight each other 🙃

[@russ7928]

Another great cane vid! Would love to see your take on Delauney and Larribeau (but we don't want to over work you...)

[@OliverJanseps]

I have to justify myself as beeing your stick sensei 😎 I had a play with Larribeau as Chris Slee came out with his translation and I liked it. Its on my list. But my ruff list is btw. ~ 60 sources for cane and/or baton 🙃😅

[@russ7928]

Great I'll be watching Sensei!

[@OliverJanseps]

@@russ7928 😃 Oss! 🙏

[@sergeyleopard8872]

Hallo ! Ich benutze diesen Stock oft. Deshalb habe ich es ein wenig fertig gemacht - ich habe eine Spitze von einem Trekking-Stick mit einer Titanspitze am Ende getragen. Ich benutze es beim Gehen auf Eis. Und darüber wird eine austauschbare Gummispitze für das tägliche Gehen angezogen. Daher ist es jetzt absolut legal , dass der Stock bei Bedarf auch für ernsthafte Stichschläge verwendet werden kann . Und ich benutze auch einen gleitenden Paracord-Verschluss.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@sergeyleopard8872 der Stock ist so leicht, mit einer Spitze am unteren Ende wüsste jeder moderne Fechter damit etwas anzustellen falls nötig.

[@johneisnor]

Could you show us what this would look like for us Lefty's

[@OliverJanseps]

You mean, I should do it with left? I could do a YT short if it helps (?) What do you say?

[@johneisnor]

@@OliverJanseps yes please, thank you

[@OliverJanseps]

@@johneisnor I will see when I can do it 🙂👍

[@clabianco1]

A regular curved cane is legal to carry, even on a plane. Carry a Dr 's letter of need.

[@OliverJanseps]

@@clabianco1 I just had to do it once as I bought a shillelagh on vacation. Luckily I had no problems.

[@user-wu6xz6lm3v]

the spot as you call it is everthing suck you know what is what

[@OliverJanseps]

@@user-wu6xz6lm3v I really don't know if you mean it in a positiv or negativ way 😅

[@RRRRRRRRRRR956]

Bonk

[@OliverJanseps]

exactly 😁

[@guharup]

Sherlock Holmes was an expert practitioner

[@OliverJanseps]

Obsessed with everything which makes him an really intetesting Charakter ❤️‍🔥

[@breannestahlman5953]

French or german accent?

[@OliverJanseps]

@@breannestahlman5953 interesting that you struggle between these two 🤔 But it's indeed German 😅