How to Start Space Marines in 10th Edition!

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[@ciaranwyllie7716]

How to start Space Marines in 10th: have Jay's seemingly unlimited bank account

[@Mosaic117]

The power of tax write offs is undeniable…

[@lizadon0740]

​@@Mosaic117 Can he use tax right offs on warhammer though.

[@sbeaber]

It's a business expense I imagine. ​@@lizadon0740

[@RatQueen03]

@@lizadon0740it is part of his job so maybe.

[@aliciacarr9014]

@@lizadon0740probably.

[@KrakDuk]

How to start space marines: Buy a ton of terminators because they’re the coolest and try to make them into a workable army with your various SM killteams

[@bighairguy7]

My mindset exactly after buying the deathwing assault set as my starter box

[@robodragon1009]

Duck!

[@upengraden3792]

Ay wassup Krakduk

[@soffren]

Okay, but why did I do this too! 😭 I'm playing Salamander with Firestorm Assault, and I need vehicles 😂

[@swogg4586]

Hello Duck 💣🦆

[@bagel_guy9495]

Who would have thought that Jay likes space marines

[@mr.potato2223]

All the small mistakes (no shame) Jay makes make it 100× more endearing Like I'm actually talking to someone at a gamestore, and they're just telling me what they know

[@soffren]

I feel the same! Instead of feeling like some expert is giving me a presentation/mastercalss, it's just ya boi spitting ideas and theory crafting with ya while you both look at the store shelf and decided what to buy. I love it!

[@-TheMachineGod-]

This is the very essence of EOB for me, the experimentation of new painting techniques and kitbash ideas, mixed with the skill to pull them off

[@petermartin9224]

A word of warning to those who are thinking of taking Jay's advice on the blood angels combat patrol, get it while you can. Once the BA refresh hits, they'll redo it like the dark angels one.

[@trashpanda_actual]

I started warhammer three days ago, what does this mean? Also, I called the ultramarines blueberries to a GW manager, and he wanted to kill me in the store...why?

[@petermartin9224]

@trashpanda_actual first off, it just means they'll be changing what's in the box, it's a regular thing they do now. The second one, I guess the manager was an Ultramarines player lol

[@HarryANuis-gi9hz]

I just started the hobby about a month ago and plan to grab the BA combat patrol, do you think it would be better to wait for the refresh or get it now?

[@wulf2757]

@@HarryANuis-gi9hz The BA combat patrol isn't very BA themed, but it is a decent start point for SM in general. Based off how the DA update went the new combat patrol will probably be worse in every way(less interesting models, still no chapter flavour, no vehicle, less points), so if you like the models in the current BA one you might as well get it while you can.

[@HarryANuis-gi9hz]

@@wulf2757 it does suck there is no blood angels theme that’s for sure. I’m still a bit undecided between space wolves, BA and grey knights tbh.

[@Whammy777]

*Terminators have 4+ invulnerable save (adjusting glasses like a nerd 🤓) great videos 👍🏽

[@Specter-wt1wt]

was just checking to see if enyone mentioned it, as a deathwing afficinado (284 terminators and counting across my 30k and 40k armies) going from 5+ to 4+ invul and from T¤ to T5 was huge, and with the latest change to deathwing knghts` weapons they are both super tanky and great vs any target. (the 30K/40K split is 47/237 )

[@xXGamerGirl47Xx]

With Gladius youre implying that they get to be in the selected doctrine all game. Its only for one turn and you can select all 3 on 3 different turns, just not use the same one on two different turns

[@korlack7276]

I'm a simple man. I see Jay post, I watch.

[@comadrone_xix]

Do I? Well I DO.

[@soffren]

Most certainly I as well!

[@WilliamWood-qu4fw]

'most popular other than leagues of votann' made me crack up- love it

[@edrozenrozen9600]

Centurions and Dreadnaughts. That's all I need. 😁

[@dubart5918]

I need this for tyranids!

[@I3ulletProofElmo]

Hey. Neat video. The intercessors picture is of the heavy intercessors. Still a good unit but may confuse people trying to look them up. Also, the librarian in the blood angel's set if a regular, primaris librarian. He can't go with terminators but he is great with things like hell blasters or a big squad of intercessors to keep them alive!

[@philurbaniak1811]

👍👍 I'm not in the habit of buying large amounts but over the last couple of years I've aimed for two boxes each of Aggressors, Eradicators, Inceptors and Centurions to be the core of my Salamanders army

[@Feshdan]

Gravis good, I support your army

[@soffren]

Damn, I was going with Infernus, Terminators, Aggressors, and Eradicators. I'll have to look into adding some Centurions!

[@gumbunch]

Same here, I love gravis! My next purchase will be to get some centurions because space marine inside a space marine... hell yeah! Love the look of them after some modification to get them less stalky looking. (also hello brother of the flame)

[@HarlanMayne]

Starting up a Space Marine army myself and still being new this helped me a lot, thanks Jay

[@StealthVenturi]

Can we have a studio tour Jay?

[@matthewnielsen7353]

All my money was well spent! 80% of the marines you rattled off are sitting on my desk assembled and primed! Lets go! I'm so excited! Love your vids man.

[@RunawayStereo]

Sustained 3 give you 3 EXTRA hits, its even better :D

[@severintw]

I like that he gives strategic advice with some ideas other players did not come up with. But he also mentions that he is pretty much loosing every game he plays… So people might say his strategies aren’t that great. I like to think he is a brilliant strategist with amazingly bad dice-luck.

[@soffren]

To be fair, he's mostly playing against the invincible Sean.

[@garrettmorgan4430]

ooohhh, the starship interior looks amazing... i think a few more special tiles and you could play a specific game... a hulk of a game ... in space...

[@Kidfry]

Thanks, Jay! This is a really good general overview for SM players new to 10th Edition.

[@chaosof99]

The thing of note of the Gladiator is that you can trivially build it in a way that all three variants are accessible to you and you can convert between them in an easy manner, and you don't even need magnets to do so. Also, another reason not to buy the Combat Patrol Space Marines is because those exact same models are in the 10th Edition starter kits, which are cheaper and you get some Tyranid models you can either keep or sell in addition to what is in the Combat Patrol.

[@mister_carrot8428]

Got alot of great info out of this vid! I got back into 40K last year with the leviathan box and have been randomly collecting marines since, not really knowing what units to take or put into a list. Now I feel like I have a direction to build towards, and it's also kinda funny that I was literally planning on buying the BA combat patrol soon XD

[@tadhgmcelligott3693]

In the BA combat patrol you actually get the full kit for Incursors/infiltrators so u can build 5 of either and then if u can source some more phobos bodies (from i dunno oh maybe the reiver bodies sold for super cheap by people parting out the reiver box to just sell heads) you can make another 5 dudes. So if u build 5 infiltrators you can after sourcing the bodies also build 5 Incursors

[@FreshCoatKustoms]

Very nice. Thank you. I hope there will be more videos like this for all the other factions. :)

[@oldman1111]

I've been in love with the Eversor Assassin since 3rd edition.

[@zeterzero4356]

Hmmm could convert those Voidsmen into serfs for your chapter. That's a fun idea. Also neat to know I have most of these models. Their kitbashed with loadouts that would make a rules lawyer cry out in agony or burst into laughter or both, but I do have them, so that's neat to know. Anyway thanks for sharing Jay.

[@Feshdan]

Full Gravis

[@hardcoremaster1141]

Yay thanks for the video

[@tenofswords618]

good advice mate

[@Redshirtdraper]

Incursor squad gives +1 to hit on whatever enemy unit they shot at. They dont give a second Oath of Moment.

[@JawaBob]

Counterpoint: Firestorm Assault Force - bring flamers... like a lot of flamers... an unreasonable amount of flamers

[@travisbrown9721]

This is a great vid! Thanks! I'd like to see this series continue. "How to Start ... in 10th Edition" Thousand Sons next, please!

[@MrZangetsu1997]

I would like to mention that Blood Angels Currently are a very Melee focused Chapter with Sons of Sanguinius Detachment, Each time an ADEPTUS ASTARTES unit from your army is selected to fight, if that unit made a Charge move this turn, until the end of the phase, add 2 to the Strength characteristic and add 1 to the Attacks characteristic of melee weapons equipped by models in that unit. A squad of 10Jump Pack Intercessors with most BA Epic Heroes attached as well as a Sanguinary Priest with Jump Pack, suddenly becomes around 50 hits that are hard easy to hit and hard to save

[@odharrison23]

They see me trolling!!!! Space hulk!!! You think they will make a new printing? They got all the pieces!!Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!

[@sir_dreadlord_on_blitz7042]

Small Misstake, Terminators have a 4+ invul save in 10th

[@sbeaber]

Sometimes I wonder if Jay plays with how often he gets the rules wrong lol. Hearing him explain gladius was interesting

[@s4ds4d]

Mistake*

[@Sonof_DRN2004]

@@sbeaberhe does play, but playing with worse rules would make him losing all the time make more sense.

[@sir_dreadlord_on_blitz7042]

Its easy to get this one wrong, terminators Always used to have a 5+, the shield of the assault terminators have the 4+

[@aroncheek5092]

I was literally just looking at blood angel unit's and the combat patrol box set as I started watching this video, not sure if I want to paint a unit just for nostalgia as they're something I painted in my teens

[@thomasboudreau4246]

Spending a cp to bounce a unit off the table and into strategic reserves so it can sneak up behind younand whisper in your ear "movement wins games"

[@midnightworf]

This video could not come at a better time, I've been thinking of getting a proper space marine army

[@evanz7136]

Hey J, little of topic tho.... in video about your necron army, u saying that u repainted it like 3 times :) So have a question... did u strip them up from paint or basically re prime them before painting again? Thanks!😊

[@sixsevenfour]

Incursors don't give rerolls to hit for the rest of the turn if they hit. They give +1 to hit for the rest of the shooting phase. Still useful when they incur 😂, just in a different way.

[@marcwittkowski5146]

How to play firstborn Marines in 10th: "Don't. Go f*#k yourself." -GW

[@AbcdeF-rw5mx]

True. But I see a solution - these are Horus Heresy kits and 3D prints (for special units, like Apothecaries or Techmarines, or for heraldry elements). MK6 and MK3 are great, despite not the most expressive poses. There are absolutely wonderful upgrade packs to turn them into Devastator squads or Sternguard Veterans with special weapons. The rules from Legends, I'd say, are not very bad at the moment, and, technically, this only limits a participation in major events or tournaments.

[@AAhmou]

Short Answer: Don't. Longer answer: feel free to proxy if your opponent is cool with it. Otherwise there is nothing official you would be able to play, unless you play an army exclusively made up of Terminators and Land Raiders. If you want to play Firstborn, there is always Horus Heresy but you'd be stuck with a specific legion.

[@cwaldacwaldovic4572]

Honest question: Why Not just put them on the table and call them Intercessors? Who is going to argue against that outside of the official competitive tournaments?

[@AbcdeF-rw5mx]

​@@cwaldacwaldovic4572 The answer is simple. People who want to run a pure Firstborn army often do not want to have Primarises in their rosters by any means. Even by proxy. It's a principled stand, sort of.

[@Neothunder240]

@@cwaldacwaldovic4572 Because intercessors lack all the cool guns tacticals can use. I don't want to use intercessors because I don't like the unit. Same goes for almost every primaris unit that has replaced its firstborn equivalent. They are simply less interesting or missing the cool things I liked about them but because they gave them inflated statlines they are simply better ruleswise.

[@NeoVejiita]

Terminators have a 4+ invulnerable save. My local meta seems to favour the spearhead vanguard detachment, even when not using Phobos things. Being able to infiltrate a terminator assault squad with shields is very powerful.

[@patrickdawson6281]

Inceptors, scouts and Jump pack interseccors are you only good datasheets, run them in whichever quantities you enjoy and then add things you like

[@SlimBass2808]

Loved this. I recently began my Imperial Fists army and so far I’ve got Redemption Dreadnaught Eradicators Eliminators Terminators Captain w/ master crafted bolter I want to do Agressors, intercessors either heavy or the standard, and possibly inceptors. Does anyone have any other recommendations?

[@archangel4868]

suggestion for actually collecting space marines: buy the Horus Heresy Age of Darkness box set. 40 marine bodies, 10 terminators, land raider, plus a couple of characters. and with just a small purchase of the missile launcher and heavy bolter upgrade box, you can milk even more value out of those 40 marines through building desolation squads and sternguard veteran squads. or if you just want some alternative units, the special weapon upgrades can give you both infernus and hellblaster squads.

[@jimmerding]

I already have 3 armies (I main space wolves) but now that I've got to grips with the game more I do find myself wanting to do an imperial fist descendant chapter based around anvil siege detachment with gravis armour EVERYWHERE. just sit on obj tanking stuff, blasting with heavy weapons and power fisting anything in the face that comes to close

[@raffaeleaiello6718]

I really like this style of video hope we get a few more (Tyranids?)

[@krignor]

i just like collecting them cause they look cool 😭 theyre so expensive

[@TheBugB]

Nice

[@sansli521]

the interssesor and the heavy interssesor have sticky objetif ? is it all battle line unit or only these two ?

[@Habitt5253]

You should do one on how to start a Black Templar army. You just might know a thing or two about that.

[@migueldelvalle3871]

Start with the rule of cool, get what you like

[@Haruki2009]

Day 8 of asking Jay to paint a skitarii

[@oscarmartin3770]

Old dark angels combat patrol or old space marines combat patrol are amazing

[@tiamatspawn4597]

Will you be making any QUAR content ?

[@Twr0740]

Please do a similar video on Custodes!

[@cryer3160]

11:00 says intercessors and sticky objective, shows heavy intercessors

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

Terminators and Dreadnoughts (ironclad) are my favorite units.

[@deanm375]

Nice breakdown. I'm building Black Templars and Space Wolves. Would like to see your unit selections for those.

[@kamikiller861]

Thunderwolves, Grimnar, Bjorn, Wulfen are all solid choices from the current index

[@edgehoward4290]

Primaris Crusaders get so many primaris crusaders

[@venomx99x]

just a heads up for some people incrusers only let you reroll SHOOTING not all attacks

[@randifelix]

Bladeguard was my first group of marines to paint. 😅

[@devinstewart8073]

So what are your auto include BT?

[@lukemiller1575]

Step 1: excessive debt Step 2: more debt

[@mancman-bu4kz]

Buy any box set? Marines are in everything lol I got them from my 2nd edition sealed box, leviathon, first strike, know no fear,

[@frogjog8822]

what happened to the killteam battle reports?

[@AlbertON2FPs]

And do you have tips for new players

[@SaytreJudd]

Small correction: That's the Primaris Librarian that comes in the Blood Angel Patrol Box not a Terminator Librarian.

[@alonsoacevedo6942]

Can you do one for Death Guard? I have a world eater army but wanna switch to death guard 🥺

[@TheAlkhemiaStudio]

I would love to see u tackle this but for admech, they're my fav and i've seen v little love for them :

[@Chasemcloud5745]

Get the most meta points efficient list as it’s also the most cheapest route

[@coreyr.1012]

I didn’t know you could use scouts any more. I thought the old scouts were discontinued and the new scouts were “kill team” only?

[@pounce8843]

more quar please!

[@toddrancejackson6976]

Unless you are playing an absolutely massive board what's the point of moving titans because most of the time their range is YES

[@AJ-oj1xy]

17:00 The bladeguard ancient is 45 points ;)

[@swakage13x]

Yeah I'm just doing great nights for right now and after I finish my thousand points then I'm either going to work on sisters of battle or loyalist iron warriors and my current plan for them is raptors and legionnaires and maybe a hellbrute but my main plan currently is one Terminator squad 3 raptor squads three legionnaire squads and two bikers squads which will put me at 905 points giving me enough for either a chaos rhino or another raptor or legionnaire squad or even another bike squad which would be 41 miniatures and with either the extra raptor or legionnaire squad that'll be 46 and with an extra bike squad that would be 44 and with the rhino or the hell brute that would be 42 and yes I know I have to play them as chaos and that's okay so I don't have to paint all that gaudy trim

[@Rooachie]

Best way to start is to buy 3D Printer with GWs insane prices

[@sydneywalker8615]

I use eliminators for home objective

[@evileyeball]

I remember when Terminators had a 2+ armour save on 2D6

[@thescreeb6763]

Anyone know what brushes he uses in his painting?

[@thesouthernbearsfan]

Can you do quar video

[@rylandvance5304]

Pretty chuffed that as a newish/ returning player after 10+ years, my current roster I've been building bit by bit just about has the recommended lineup.

[@THEROOKIE6666]

The only factions i intend of collecting are thousand sons, iron warriors, necrons, imperial fists, lamentors, and probably kasrkin/solar auxilia

[@smorales5739]

Is there a discord EoB discord?

[@daaaah_whoosh]

I have roughly 1k points of space marines, but a lot of it isn't really viable. Bought a firstborn dreadnought and land speeder because they were both cheap and looked adorable, and a predator tank because I figured I could run it as a rhino until I reread the rules and realized "tacticus armor" means Primaris marines, and they don't fit in a rhino. For all my effort trying to save money I think I agree now that that Blood Angel combat patrol would have been a better route. Though I still love my little boxnaught and land speeder.

[@tadhgmcelligott3693]

That predator is actually pretty good, lascannons are a marines best anti tank rn and predators can go all lascannons

[@knightsljx]

The Space Marine Combat Patrol is so bad it's hilarious. GW really thinks all their customers are idiots

[@AlbertON2FPs]

I it is AlbertOn2FPS just saying hi and love your videos

[@Cycl0ps]

Thanks you, AlbertON2FPS!

[@kosachilles2504]

Step 1: refinance house

[@eliasverbeek4892]

Space boysss

[@That_average_idiot]

Hey Jay, check out this interesting war game called Kings of war. It has some interesting factions and abundant law sort of like 40 K.

[@HitoSorrelius]

...Those are Heavy Intercessors at 10:43 . The BA Combat Patrol gives a regular Librarian, not a Librarian in Terminator Armor.

[@TheFishy82]

That’s not how Gladius works. You can pick each doctrine once during the game or use the “adaptive strategy” strategy to put a unit in whatever doctrine you like

[@user-zi9cl3js3f]

would this info still apply if I'm making dark angels?

[@greg_mca]

DA are just SM with 2 extra army themes stacked on top. Same with blood angels. It applies generally

[@joerusen5893]

Good video full of good info. Thank you!

[@oscarnurmi8082]

4+ invul for termies jay!

[@clood0814]

Don't tempt me Jay! I just started Admech 😭

[@piotrjeske4599]

Masochist

[@clood0814]

@@piotrjeske4599 i know. But i got an awesome deal and just couldn't say no haha

[@AAhmou]

How to start an admech army: Step 1: choose another army.

[@SgtHouse]

As a Tau player this is bad advice and suggest you just get combat patrol space marines. About 5 of them. You will be the cool kid on the table.....trust me... 😂

[@Chris-dc4qz]

Incursors actually give +1 to hit for all other adeptus astartes units, not re-rolling hits. Anyways, good video. 👍🏻

[@azrael1045]

How to start playing 40k: 3d printer go brrrrrr

[@Kitbash.Carnage]

❤

[@boynamedrose]

how to start space marines in 10th: be content with the fact that you're never gonna win