How to Start Space Marines in 10th Edition!

[@KrakDuk]

How to start space marines: Buy a ton of terminators because they’re the coolest and try to make them into a workable army with your various SM killteams

[@bighairguy7]

My mindset exactly after buying the deathwing assault set as my starter box

[@robodragon1009]

Duck!

[@upengraden3792]

Ay wassup Krakduk

[@soffren]

Okay, but why did I do this too! 😭 I'm playing Salamander with Firestorm Assault, and I need vehicles 😂

[@swogg4586]

Hello Duck 💣🦆

[@Sparky_Paints]

How to start Space Marines in 10th: have Jay's seemingly unlimited bank account

[@Mosaic117]

The power of tax write offs is undeniable…

[@lizadon0740]

​@@Mosaic117 Can he use tax right offs on warhammer though.

[@sbeaber]

It's a business expense I imagine. ​@@lizadon0740

[@RatQueen03]

@@lizadon0740it is part of his job so maybe.

[@aliciacarr9014]

@@lizadon0740probably.

[@mr.potato2223]

All the small mistakes (no shame) Jay makes make it 100× more endearing Like I'm actually talking to someone at a gamestore, and they're just telling me what they know

[@soffren]

I feel the same! Instead of feeling like some expert is giving me a presentation/mastercalss, it's just ya boi spitting ideas and theory crafting with ya while you both look at the store shelf and decided what to buy. I love it!

[@-TheMachineGod-]

This is the very essence of EOB for me, the experimentation of new painting techniques and kitbash ideas, mixed with the skill to pull them off

[@bagel_guy9495]

Who would have thought that Jay likes space marines

[@petermartin9224]

A word of warning to those who are thinking of taking Jay's advice on the blood angels combat patrol, get it while you can. Once the BA refresh hits, they'll redo it like the dark angels one.

[@trashpanda_actual]

I started warhammer three days ago, what does this mean? Also, I called the ultramarines blueberries to a GW manager, and he wanted to kill me in the store...why?

[@petermartin9224]

@trashpanda_actual first off, it just means they'll be changing what's in the box, it's a regular thing they do now. The second one, I guess the manager was an Ultramarines player lol

[@HarryANuis-gi9hz]

I just started the hobby about a month ago and plan to grab the BA combat patrol, do you think it would be better to wait for the refresh or get it now?

[@wulf2757]

@@HarryANuis-gi9hz The BA combat patrol isn't very BA themed, but it is a decent start point for SM in general. Based off how the DA update went the new combat patrol will probably be worse in every way(less interesting models, still no chapter flavour, no vehicle, less points), so if you like the models in the current BA one you might as well get it while you can.

[@HarryANuis-gi9hz]

@@wulf2757 it does suck there is no blood angels theme that’s for sure. I’m still a bit undecided between space wolves, BA and grey knights tbh.

[@GrenadeMessiah]

Thanks for this. As a long time space marine painter who now has the itch to play, this is was exactly what I needed to see. I’ve had no idea who’s actually good and who just looks cool for years now. Nice to hear it from someone with experience who has crunched the numbers

[@TheChuckTV]

One thing I’d like to add on top of Jays advice is - don’t feel like you’re locked into buying a combat patrol. A lot of the time, the Warhammer/GW employee will push you towards the combat patrol box because it’s either a quick $100 or it’s the ‘done thing’ that they’re told to do by the higher ups. But that’s not what you should always do. Say for example, you don’t like/want 50% of the mini’s in the combat patrol box… don’t just buy the box for the ones you want and then have 10-20 models left over. You absolutely can just build your army 1 unit/ character at a time. Yes it may cost you more money in the long run - but this is an expensive hobby! I play orks, I haven’t bought the combat patrol and I also haven’t broken my bank account because I split the purchases up over a couple years. It is possible to buy an army without a combat patrol. Yes, combat patrols are a good money saving option and can give you a great deal on units and can actually set you up for a very good army composition. But don’t feel like it’s your only option. 😁 Happy hobbying!

[@Whammy777]

*Terminators have 4+ invulnerable save (adjusting glasses like a nerd 🤓) great videos 👍🏽

[@Specter-wt1wt]

was just checking to see if enyone mentioned it, as a deathwing afficinado (284 terminators and counting across my 30k and 40k armies) going from 5+ to 4+ invul and from T¤ to T5 was huge, and with the latest change to deathwing knghts` weapons they are both super tanky and great vs any target. (the 30K/40K split is 47/237 )

[@philurbaniak1811]

👍👍 I'm not in the habit of buying large amounts but over the last couple of years I've aimed for two boxes each of Aggressors, Eradicators, Inceptors and Centurions to be the core of my Salamanders army

[@Feshdan]

Gravis good, I support your army

[@soffren]

Damn, I was going with Infernus, Terminators, Aggressors, and Eradicators. I'll have to look into adding some Centurions!

[@gumbunch]

Same here, I love gravis! My next purchase will be to get some centurions because space marine inside a space marine... hell yeah! Love the look of them after some modification to get them less stalky looking. (also hello brother of the flame)

[@sandsrhew1203]

*happy salamander noises*

[@xXGamerGirl47Xx]

With Gladius youre implying that they get to be in the selected doctrine all game. Its only for one turn and you can select all 3 on 3 different turns, just not use the same one on two different turns

[@korlack7276]

I'm a simple man. I see Jay post, I watch.

[@codyinacoma]

Do I? Well I DO.

[@soffren]

Most certainly I as well!

[@garrettmorgan4430]

ooohhh, the starship interior looks amazing... i think a few more special tiles and you could play a specific game... a hulk of a game ... in space...

[@CatedDuck]

Even for someone that has played a while, this advice is great and refreshing, delivered in a very entertaining video. Great job!

[@WilliamWood-qu4fw]

'most popular other than leagues of votann' made me crack up- love it

[@digitalmastertv5038]

I’ve learned so much watching you I’m fairly new to warhammer had no clue about minis and I’m obsessed now lol

[@tadhgmcelligott3693]

In the BA combat patrol you actually get the full kit for Incursors/infiltrators so u can build 5 of either and then if u can source some more phobos bodies (from i dunno oh maybe the reiver bodies sold for super cheap by people parting out the reiver box to just sell heads) you can make another 5 dudes. So if u build 5 infiltrators you can after sourcing the bodies also build 5 Incursors

[@chaosof99]

The thing of note of the Gladiator is that you can trivially build it in a way that all three variants are accessible to you and you can convert between them in an easy manner, and you don't even need magnets to do so. Also, another reason not to buy the Combat Patrol Space Marines is because those exact same models are in the 10th Edition starter kits, which are cheaper and you get some Tyranid models you can either keep or sell in addition to what is in the Combat Patrol.

[@zurfey]

as someone who finally just started an interest in the ultramarines i’m very happy to find this

[@edrozenrozen9600]

Centurions and Dreadnaughts. That's all I need. 😁

[@travisbrown9721]

This is a great vid! Thanks! I'd like to see this series continue. "How to Start ... in 10th Edition" Thousand Sons next, please!

[@mister_carrot8428]

Got alot of great info out of this vid! I got back into 40K last year with the leviathan box and have been randomly collecting marines since, not really knowing what units to take or put into a list. Now I feel like I have a direction to build towards, and it's also kinda funny that I was literally planning on buying the BA combat patrol soon XD

[@Kidfry]

Thanks, Jay! This is a really good general overview for SM players new to 10th Edition.

[@JohnR1298]

That Voidsmen trick is sneaky, low-down and dirty. I. Love. It! ❤😅😅😅

[@midnightworf]

This video could not come at a better time, I've been thinking of getting a proper space marine army

[@deanm375]

Nice breakdown. I'm building Black Templars and Space Wolves. Would like to see your unit selections for those.

[@kamikiller861]

Thunderwolves, Grimnar, Bjorn, Wulfen are all solid choices from the current index

[@MarlboroFed]

Primaris Crusaders get so many primaris crusaders

[@oldman1111]

I've been in love with the Eversor Assassin since 3rd edition.

[@zeterzero4356]

Hmmm could convert those Voidsmen into serfs for your chapter. That's a fun idea. Also neat to know I have most of these models. Their kitbashed with loadouts that would make a rules lawyer cry out in agony or burst into laughter or both, but I do have them, so that's neat to know. Anyway thanks for sharing Jay.

[@MrZangetsu1997]

I would like to mention that Blood Angels Currently are a very Melee focused Chapter with Sons of Sanguinius Detachment, Each time an ADEPTUS ASTARTES unit from your army is selected to fight, if that unit made a Charge move this turn, until the end of the phase, add 2 to the Strength characteristic and add 1 to the Attacks characteristic of melee weapons equipped by models in that unit. A squad of 10Jump Pack Intercessors with most BA Epic Heroes attached as well as a Sanguinary Priest with Jump Pack, suddenly becomes around 50 hits that are hard easy to hit and hard to save

[@patrickdawson6281]

Inceptors, scouts and Jump pack interseccors are you only good datasheets, run them in whichever quantities you enjoy and then add things you like

[@I3ulletProofElmo]

Hey. Neat video. The intercessors picture is of the heavy intercessors. Still a good unit but may confuse people trying to look them up. Also, the librarian in the blood angel's set if a regular, primaris librarian. He can't go with terminators but he is great with things like hell blasters or a big squad of intercessors to keep them alive!

[@Vote1Jimmy]

Love to see more videos like this for other factions

[@sixsevenfour]

Incursors don't give rerolls to hit for the rest of the turn if they hit. They give +1 to hit for the rest of the shooting phase. Still useful when they incur 😂, just in a different way.

[@odharrison23]

They see me trolling!!!! Space hulk!!! You think they will make a new printing? They got all the pieces!!Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!

[@daaaah_whoosh]

I have roughly 1k points of space marines, but a lot of it isn't really viable. Bought a firstborn dreadnought and land speeder because they were both cheap and looked adorable, and a predator tank because I figured I could run it as a rhino until I reread the rules and realized "tacticus armor" means Primaris marines, and they don't fit in a rhino. For all my effort trying to save money I think I agree now that that Blood Angel combat patrol would have been a better route. Though I still love my little boxnaught and land speeder.

[@tadhgmcelligott3693]

That predator is actually pretty good, lascannons are a marines best anti tank rn and predators can go all lascannons

[@TheLaird91]

Land speeders have legacy data sheets so non tournament play they are a fun option

[@HarlanMayne]

Starting up a Space Marine army myself and still being new this helped me a lot, thanks Jay

[@NeoVejiita]

Terminators have a 4+ invulnerable save. My local meta seems to favour the spearhead vanguard detachment, even when not using Phobos things. Being able to infiltrate a terminator assault squad with shields is very powerful.

[@zylowolfzan3345]

Ya know, I'd actually really like to see a video like this on all the 40k factions. Might be tough for the armies you don't personally know as well, but maybe you could bring some guests on the channel for those? They could give YOU the breakdown the same way you gave to us in this video, and you could even pair it with you and the guest doing some mini-painting of, say, a Kill Team or whatnot of said faction. Could make for a fun series!

[@Sharksvsnids]

Spending a cp to bounce a unit off the table and into strategic reserves so it can sneak up behind younand whisper in your ear "movement wins games"

[@aroncheek5092]

I was literally just looking at blood angel unit's and the combat patrol box set as I started watching this video, not sure if I want to paint a unit just for nostalgia as they're something I painted in my teens

[@archangel4868]

suggestion for actually collecting space marines: buy the Horus Heresy Age of Darkness box set. 40 marine bodies, 10 terminators, land raider, plus a couple of characters. and with just a small purchase of the missile launcher and heavy bolter upgrade box, you can milk even more value out of those 40 marines through building desolation squads and sternguard veteran squads. or if you just want some alternative units, the special weapon upgrades can give you both infernus and hellblaster squads.

[@tPwnd]

Incursors actually give +1 to hit for all other adeptus astartes units, not re-rolling hits. Anyways, good video. 👍🏻

[@TrueVapeGod]

So do you just paint them as whatever chapter you want to use since they're all space marines? Like could i make the leviathan space marines into Dark Angels?

[@GarthIvers]

Absolutely!

[@sofaking1627]

Yup, bonus points if you change their emblems and such to match the Chapter/Detachment that you're going for.

[@Toucan_222]

I recently got into the hobby and I used the ultimate starter box (basically Leviathan) and made the space Marines into Salamanders with some help from the local shop owner.

[@JawaBob]

Counterpoint: Firestorm Assault Force - bring flamers... like a lot of flamers... an unreasonable amount of flamers

[@matthewnielsen7353]

All my money was well spent! 80% of the marines you rattled off are sitting on my desk assembled and primed! Lets go! I'm so excited! Love your vids man.

[@StealthVenturi]

Can we have a studio tour Jay?

[@Eleian-]

This helped me a lot. Trying to build a space marine army and I will definitely pick these up! + 1 sub and a like for sure!

[@Habitt5253]

You should do one on how to start a Black Templar army. You just might know a thing or two about that.

[@Mrhofer]

Talking about the game without a ton of jargon is so immensely helpful.

[@FreshCoatKustoms]

Very nice. Thank you. I hope there will be more videos like this for all the other factions. :)

[@migueldelvalle3871]

Start with the rule of cool, get what you like

[@themrlupo3591]

I play and my top is just to get what you think would be fun

[@SaytreJudd]

Small correction: That's the Primaris Librarian that comes in the Blood Angel Patrol Box not a Terminator Librarian.

[@BradleyDavila-nw4su]

0:39 you want to know what else is massive

[@thememeguy2195]

"Imagine if the Emperor got a low taper fade" -Gets executed for heresy

[@hellothere640]

I know nothing much as ive just started but want the black templars for the look, already painted some space marines but i want some more templar stuff.

[@TheFishy82]

That’s not how Gladius works. You can pick each doctrine once during the game or use the “adaptive strategy” strategy to put a unit in whatever doctrine you like

[@cirno9349]

For starting space marines i recommend the photon mono 2 it’s not the biggest plate size so printing space marines is slow but at the price of a combat patrol its worth it since most of the files are free

[@venomx99x]

just a heads up for some people incrusers only let you reroll SHOOTING not all attacks

[@Nate-1101]

14:47 Blood angels combat patrol has incursers not infiltraters

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

Terminators and Dreadnoughts (ironclad) are my favorite units.

[@Redshirtdraper]

Incursor squad gives +1 to hit on whatever enemy unit they shot at. They dont give a second Oath of Moment.

[@Kuben-Blisk]

big thx jay now i can add an extra 300 gbp to my christmas list xD

[@Chasemcloud5745]

Get the most meta points efficient list as it’s also the most cheapest route

[@HitoSorrelius]

...Those are Heavy Intercessors at 10:43 . The BA Combat Patrol gives a regular Librarian, not a Librarian in Terminator Armor.

[@mordredpendragon1235]

Not like you can put a Librarian with gravis guys either way

[@sir_dreadlord_on_blitz7042]

Small Misstake, Terminators have a 4+ invul save in 10th

[@sbeaber]

Sometimes I wonder if Jay plays with how often he gets the rules wrong lol. Hearing him explain gladius was interesting

[@s4ds4d]

Mistake*

[@Sonof_DRN2004]

@@sbeaberhe does play, but playing with worse rules would make him losing all the time make more sense.

[@sir_dreadlord_on_blitz7042]

Its easy to get this one wrong, terminators Always used to have a 5+, the shield of the assault terminators have the 4+

[@Darby-qu6hz]

I got the nurgel VS Marines.

[@mancman-bu4kz]

Buy any box set? Marines are in everything lol I got them from my 2nd edition sealed box, leviathon, first strike, know no fear,

[@AJ-oj1xy]

17:00 The bladeguard ancient is 45 points ;)

[@IncredibleMD]

As someone who already thinks aggressors and inceptors are already pretty cool looking, having half to two-thirds of my army made up of them doesn't seem like a huge deal. A few aggressors, a few inceptors, a dreadnought, and then some intercessors to fill out the points making up an army? A-okay by me.

[@Todd6976]

Unless you are playing an absolutely massive board what's the point of moving titans because most of the time their range is YES

[@CTimmerman]

To crush stuff for flavor. Too bad that doesn't do much according to some video i watched recently.

[@oscarmartin3770]

Old dark angels combat patrol or old space marines combat patrol are amazing

[@jimmerding]

I already have 3 armies (I main space wolves) but now that I've got to grips with the game more I do find myself wanting to do an imperial fist descendant chapter based around anvil siege detachment with gravis armour EVERYWHERE. just sit on obj tanking stuff, blasting with heavy weapons and power fisting anything in the face that comes to close

[@thebricklocker9353]

What a awesome video! Thank you!

[@cryer3160]

11:00 says intercessors and sticky objective, shows heavy intercessors

[@Nate-1101]

10:58 Shows heavy intercessors

[@krignor]

i just like collecting them cause they look cool 😭 theyre so expensive

[@StreetMaverick]

Thank you soooo much this helps so much.

[@EnsignFuntimes]

Don’t underestimate high dice feel no pains. I’ve had Scarabs with that 5+ from spiders absolutely demolish an enemy unit

[@severintw]

I like that he gives strategic advice with some ideas other players did not come up with. But he also mentions that he is pretty much loosing every game he plays… So people might say his strategies aren’t that great. I like to think he is a brilliant strategist with amazingly bad dice-luck.

[@soffren]

To be fair, he's mostly playing against the invincible Sean.

[@elenixaris2011]

Greetings from Greece my friend ,i watch your videos and i find them really spectacular and some kind of guide for many reasons ,i would like to ask you something ,what is your opinion about Aeldari and if it does worth to collect them ,thank so much in advance !!!!!

[@kingbonezai4925]

Sadly that books angels combat patrol is no longer available Can you do an updated version now that they changed the boxes?

[@randifelix]

Bladeguard was my first group of marines to paint. 😅

[@TheAlkhemiaStudio]

I would love to see u tackle this but for admech, they're my fav and i've seen v little love for them :

[@MVB0606]

I’m playing black Templars, I haven’t played a game yet and am still building my army, when I got infiltrators no one was talking. Abt them so I never finished painting them but will def do that now and add them to my list as I see them everywhere now. But my list is -Helbrecht (warlord) -emperors champion - Marshall -intercessor squad x3 - primaris crusader squad - inceptor squad - infernus squad - infiltrator squad - primaris sword brethren - terminator squad - gladiator reaper - impulsor Is this a good list? I feel like I have the must haves for Templars and good units for space marines in general. In total it’s 1,530 points

[@Biriba2isGaming-fe7nd]

I purchased the starter set with space marines vs tyranids. Can I make the space marines space wolves or do they have to be ultramarines. Also I think lord Calagar is part of the set so idk if I can make him space wolf. If I can make them space wolves would they have different stats the ultramarines?

[@L00ww]

has gladius been changed? i thought you can only have each doctrine just once in one turn per game

[@isaacgraff8288]

I have all 4 assassins and I rotate them around. Haven't used Eversor (yet) but I have seen him used as an insanely good anti infantry missile. Will he get taken out next turn? Probably. Have I seen him delete an entire unit of infantry? Yeah

[@AndrewDeMarchis]

Hey jay. I’ve got a black Templar army and wanted to know if this is a good army roster? Characters: apothecary Lieutenant in Phobos Captain with plasma pistol x1 impulsor x10 hellblasters x5 assault intercessors with jump packs x5 assault inercessors x3 eliminators x5 infiltrators x3 suppressors

[@rabbitreaper7614]

my pile of shame has a sisters of battle boarding patrol box, a squad of intercessors for my salamanders, half a squad of unpainted thousand sons, and terrain and necrons from the 9th edition starter set!

[@peterevans6661]

Great advice!

[@Twr0740]

Please do a similar video on Custodes!

[@raffaeleaiello6718]

I really like this style of video hope we get a few more (Tyranids?)

[@sandman1463]

Currently starting my Black Templar army! No idea how to play yet-

[@sydneywalker8615]

I use eliminators for home objective

[@thesouthernbearsfan]

Can you do quar video

[@SWTobito0702]

16:58 Bladeguard Ancient staring from the corner

[@swakage13x]

Yeah I'm just doing great nights for right now and after I finish my thousand points then I'm either going to work on sisters of battle or loyalist iron warriors and my current plan for them is raptors and legionnaires and maybe a hellbrute but my main plan currently is one Terminator squad 3 raptor squads three legionnaire squads and two bikers squads which will put me at 905 points giving me enough for either a chaos rhino or another raptor or legionnaire squad or even another bike squad which would be 41 miniatures and with either the extra raptor or legionnaire squad that'll be 46 and with an extra bike squad that would be 44 and with the rhino or the hell brute that would be 42 and yes I know I have to play them as chaos and that's okay so I don't have to paint all that gaudy trim

[@DrSnackCake5]

I’m new to tabletop warhammer 40k. My first squad I bought was a regular space marine tactical squad. Did I make a bad choice or can I work them in somewhere?

[@LethalBlood-76]

Well depends but is a good choice overall

[@evileyeball]

I remember when Terminators had a 2+ armour save on 2D6

[@RunawayStereo]

Sustained 3 give you 3 EXTRA hits, its even better :D

[@TorrienteEnterprises]

hey Eon can you play with all sorts of space marines? Like playing with the blood angels and the ultramarines, like is that allowed in WH40K?

[@frostedbutts4340]

Basically no. You can paint your guys as a mix of chapters.. but you have to use the rules for one at a time.