How To Structure Your Project And Organize Your Scripts - Roblox Scripting Tutorial

[@asioud]

I appreciate u for going over niche topics like this in ur channel, this is why you’re the only roblox coding channel I follow. Legend 🐐

[@Tarapupsik]

Dude you`re my true savior. This video is exactly what i was searching up for. (Edit) You also have all answers for questions i asked.

[@dr_ned_flanders]

OMG! How is it that you cover such relevant topics for aspiring Roblox developers? I think, I need to find out how to do x and there is a tutorial for it on your channel. Keep up the great work.

[@marlus]

Great tutorial! The base to create our own framework! Can you extend this tutorial with your best practices on how to communicate between client and server?

[@yiannis1236]

I can see this being useful for breaking down "big module scripts" with multiple components.

[@ChickHen]

Super useful tutorial! A question I have is, using this structure where would I put events like .PlayerAdded. Would it be in a module script then required by the main script, or would the entire event just be in the main script itself?

[@5uphi]

I personally don't put anything else in the main script and everything goes in modules I hope to make a video in the future showing how to make a game using this style

[@Smurfis]

@@5uphiPlease come round to this I’m very interested in a full tutorial of multiple things maybe even a live stream of continuous events or a Q&A where you program our ideas.

[@GaLzZy.]

@@5uphi Have you made that in the end or not cause that would be very kewl! Thanks

[@tomsterbg8130]

I learned a ton during this video! Too bad I was using hacky loops to check if a script is loaded or not and didn't use intialize and initiate

[@5uphi]

I'm happy the videos was useful for you 🙂

[@baconheadhair6938]

This was 2 yers ago

[@tomsterbg8130]

@@baconheadhair6938 true, people change over time and remembering the myself that wrote this comment i think i'm an entirely different person now 😉

[@baconheadhair6938]

@@tomsterbg8130 Yay

[@baconheadhair6938]

@@tomsterbg8130 yay

[@charliewagenbrenner5994]

Great tutorial! I’m curious, where did you learn how to code? I’ve tried but I’m not really learning anything from the places I’ve tried to learn from? Honestly the most about coding I’ve memorized are from watching your vids. So yeah, I’d love to learn to code.

[@5uphi]

I taught myself if you keep practicing and don't give up you will get better over time

[@charliewagenbrenner5994]

@@5uphi thank you!

[@doesnotmatter28-v1h]

thank you every much!!!... YOUR VIDO HAS HELPED MY CODING SKILL REACH NEW HEIGHTS

[@OcnarfPro]

Thank you so much for this awesome tutorial

[@5uphi]

No problem I'm happy it's useful for you

[@Shannxy]

I absolutely love this structure and I'm implementing it for a big project now, but I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with remote events aswell?

[@Ethixen]

thanks! Now I can finally start developing my game.

[@5uphi]

Glad I could help!

[@gunipotys]

Hello Suphi, do you know how to use your method to wait for all server-scripts to load ? Thank you and great video btw

[@pieTone]

I always liked your vibe

[@5uphi]

:)

[@ants5827]

If you could do a puglin/tutorial for randomly generated rooms that look diff every time that would be sick!

[@5uphi]

Ill keep that in mind

[@GaLzZy.]

Is this still a practice that is good to use today? Or are there better ways of doing things? Thanks great vid

[@5uphi]

Its just one of many methods but only you can decide if its better

[@GaLzZy.]

​@@5uphiYeah well I come from Unity and i'm pretty new to roblox development so i'm looking for a good way to start creating some games :P

[@setscet]

Dude! This is so genius! I've been wondering what the use for _G was if modules exist, and also how to stay more organized and professional, and this kills two birds with one stone.

[@5uphi]

Checkout this video if you want to see it in action kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5LQlX5_bNBng9k

[@setscet]

@@5uphi Oh wow! So it really is everything as modules. I have some separate scripts that I feel like I could keep that way, like one that handles all remote events for combat, and one that handles duels. Is there an advantage to make things like those modules other than making everything a module?

[@5uphi]

By using modules it allows other scripts/modules to access methods/properties inside them so by making everything a module it means everything can access everything

[@arsonistd2822]

Great work!

[@5uphi]

Thank you

[@catboyfiggy1037]

Aside from less header space, what's the benefit of storing all the module scripts in a global table, over just requiring them individually in any other script they're needed in?

[@5uphi]

There is only 1 benefit let's say you have 2 modules moduleA and moduleB if you require moduleB inside moduleA then moduleB can not Required moduleA Other then that it's just personal preference feel free to do what you think is best

[@TumbleWede]

I see that a lot of people aren't really amused to use _G for this. I think a solution is that you can store the required modules in a loader script table and then pass that modules table to the Initialize method where you can store the argument in a nil variable in the module (Don't set the variable to an empty table at the beginning or it will give you warnings). This won't copy the modules table so you can modify parts of a module, and the other modules will be able to see those modifications. This also still allows two modules to communicate with each other.

[@5uphi]

Yer you can save all the modules inside another module then require that module to get the table of all the modules but there would not be any benefit to doing this if anything it would require more code and might be a tiny bit slower

[@TumbleWede]

@@5uphi Hello there! I just recently started working on a project that uses a scripting architecture like the one you provide in this video, and I decided to do a benchmark to test the speeds of this since you mentioned that my solution would be a little slower. What I did was clone every module and rename it to a GUID, and I repeated this 10 times (Each module being identical to the ones in this video). This left me with 3072 modules that needed to be required. I ran each test 10 times, and it showed that saving each module via _G and Initializing/Initiating everything took an average of 121 milliseconds. However, doing the same thing except using my method of saving the modules in a shared table only took an average of 48 milliseconds. From what I hear, _G is slower than local variables because of how the two are accessed. Local variables can be directly accessed from the current stack frame which is very fast and efficient. Meanwhile, _G has to look through a lot more places which can be slower than local variables.

[@5uphi]

Would you like to share your benchmark in discord my personal benchmarks don't have the same result accessing _G should be just like accessing workspace or math

[@TumbleWede]

@@5uphi nvm, I forgot to change a part of my code and it caused my scripts to loop though _G instead of the modules table. I also decided to replace the part in ScriptB with a Vector3 so the parts don't lag my game. I ran the benchmark again, and this time it showed that _G and my method took basically the same time to load at an average of 100 milliseconds (running each test 15 times).

[@sillygoober368]

I have a question will you ever do a tutorial on how to remake doors and it’s procedural room generation?

[@bomby.e.e]

He made a video of how to make an infinite obby with random. You can use a bit of information from that vid for your doors game

[@crow9836]

i would imagine this wouldn't retain strict type checking would it? I like auto complete for workflow

[@5uphi]

Correct types wont be imported without using required

[@jam5936]

How would I use this method with stuff like Promises and that class library inside of a Class script so that it doesn't make it look messy. For example I have it set up like this to make sure the class is initiated local Promise local Class local Inventory = {} Inventory.Initiate = function() Promise = _G.Promise Class = _G.Class Inventory = Class("Inventory") end

[@goreacraft]

In ClassB the .Position function it is global because you did not set the __index of it right? (like you did in the ClassA). Nice video, thank you. p.s.: Did you tried the AeroGameFramework plugin made by sleitnick? it is a very good one that helps with all this organization and has all you need, been using it for years now

[@5uphi]

so ScriptB's Position function is just like a normal module function the only difference is you don't have to manually load modules all the time and we get access to the module using _G.ScriptB where Class is also a module that gets automatically loaded just like SctiptB but Class has a function called New and this function crates a new table and we set that tables metatable to the module table so what that means the table that is created in the new function if you try to access a key of the table that does not exist it will use the module table as like a plan B so when you use the Print function it first checks the table that was created in the New function for the Print key and as that table does not have a key called Print it will be nil and because its nil it will then check the metatable for the Print key and because it is found in that table you can use it and because every time we call the New Function all the tables created will all have the same metatable so i can call the Print function on classA and classB and the Print key will always go back to the same Print function that is stored in the same metatable so if i create 1000 objects using the Class.New() function there will only ever be 1 Print function that all 1000 class objects use you could also use the Print function like this _G.Class.Print(classA) this has the same effect as classA:Print()

[@goreacraft]

@@5uphi thank you for the comprehensive answer.

[@trendcow]

Hey, so I have been scripting for years on roblox, but I am unsure to why you used module scripts instead of scripts for this instance. Should I replace all my scripts, that typically run when the server starts, with module scripts and load them with a loader script? Are there any limitations that this may come with?

[@5uphi]

So the main benefit to this structure is being able to control the order your modules run in and the ability to access all modules from anywhere To the question if you should replace all your scripts with modules. Using this structure is not mandatory if your happy with the way you currently have your project structured keep it the way it currently is but if your unhappy and after watching the video you like the structure I have presented in this video then give it a try maybe try it in your next project instead of replacing your current project I have not found any limitations to this structure to me feels very freeing when I code in this structure

[@trendcow]

@@5uphi Thanks for the response! I think I’m going to try adapting this method for my current project, I just grew up learning module scripts a bit differently and I didn’t ever think of using them this way. I’ve been watching a lot of your content and it’s been extremely helpful. Keep up the great work!

[@BrandonShere]

Aren't module scripts already global? I'm confused as to why we are using _G when in the tutorial I watched it said _G is old and untrustworthy and module scripts are better? Maybe I'm wrong I don't know, I'm making my way through an advanced series now, and I feel like I've got a great understanding for how it's all working (just don't have too much experience on field yet). It seems like you're forcing the scripts to load when they're ready? That way you don't run into the _G variables not being loaded in time for use?

[@5uphi]

When you require the module for the first time the module runs and returns the table when you require the same module a second time you get a reference to the first table that was created on the first time you required it. in this video I'm saving the reference into _G so that I can get access to the reference without the need to require. It's almost identical in both cases you get a reference to the exact same table. There are only 3 downsides of using require that I know of 1) you can't require a module that required you 2) you have to type more 3) you have to keep track of what modules you have required But it's just personal preference if you feel more comfortable requiring modules at the top of your scripts then you can do that this video just shows how I do it

[@5uphi]

This is not true for actors when you require a module in 2 different actors the second actor will not get a reference to the original table it will run the module again and make a second table

[@5uphi]

When you say _G is old and untrustworthy what do you mean why would it be untrustworthy that's like saying workspace is old and untrustworthy it's just a global variable that references something. workspace references game.Workspace where _G references a empty table and math references the math library(table)

[@user-om4fe9yx1c]

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[@jam5936]

When will you show us this structure in an actual game? I was going to use this but ran into some problems with readability so I stopped.

[@5uphi]

Hopefully some time in the future but I'm not sure when

[@LD_1]

Alot of the issues shown here could have been fixed in more efficient way by using framework such as Knit. But nice video overall.

[@5uphi]

I would disagree that knit is more efficient but IV never used it but I think knit is more designs to handle communication between the client and server

[@DrakonFirestone]

I just have a small question - would this work with inheritance used in classes? If yes how would I set up the Class2 which inherits value from Class (in the example) so it wont broke with requiring the Class module? :)

[@DrakonFirestone]

And btw I adore this setup, I am working on game rn that I have quite big plans on expanding later and after watching this I know I need to reorganize everything so it will be so easily accessed and structured like in this video so expanding the game won't be a nightmare in the future :) Great video!

[@5uphi]

The class I show on the video does not support inheritance but you could modify it maybe this might help github.com/rxi/classic

[@TookyMud]

Is there a reason to put module scripts in replicatedfirst over replicatedstorage or even startercharacterscripts for client sided scripts other than the loading?

[@5uphi]

There is no reason its just personal preference

[@breenud39tv]

Hey I'm not sure what I am doing wrong but at 7:00 when you have everything loaded. My parts load and are placed in the exact place but I get an error that says ServerScriptService.Script:3: table index is nil. It's for the main script I'm not sure why it does this. It still works but why?

[@5uphi]

if you message me in discord ill try to help you

[@wav8518]

Happened to me, make sure is not Modules[Instance.Name] = require(instance) it should be like this = Modules[instance.Name] = require(instance) basically lowercase i because Instance cannot be used

[@CompletePivot0302]

I've heard it's bad to load all your modules as global scripts because then cheaters steal your code. Your opinion on this?

[@5uphi]

Anything in serverscriptservice or serverstorage is not replicated to the client you can find this information here: create.roblox.com/docs/reference/engine/classes/ServerScriptService

[@CompletePivot0302]

@@5uphi That was my assumption too I've just heard some people on the devforum say that global variables like this can somehow allow code to be stolen even when they're server sided. Maybe they were wrong or I just misinterpreted what they were saying.

[@5uphi]

There is a lot of miss information spread around the Roblox developer community always ask for evidence when someone claims anything

[@CompletePivot0302]

@@5uphi Late reply thanks I like your method a lot btw and think it's super useful.

[@scriptedinterface5403]

What's the point of classA and classB?

[@5uphi]

There is no point

[@JoshieBoy_]

what is your coding font?

[@5uphi]

Roblox studio default font

[@JoshieBoy_]

@@5uphi alright thanks, I like your new video the plugin is very useful

[@dreamer1ish]

Suphi Kaner, How do I remove your infinite terrain thing in my game? I don't hate it but it doesn't work for mine because of the way I made it work, I remove the script but the green stuff and the terrain thing still loads.

[@5uphi]

If you message me on discord I can help make it work for you or help you remove it

[@yootstudio8618]

Nice

[@5uphi]

:)

[@TheKinglyWay]

why would you create a class?

[@5uphi]

You don't have to create a class its possible to make a hole game without the need for any classes

[@AkaObbies]

@@5uphi I don't think they wanted to know if you *needed* a class but if you wanted to use a class then why would you want to do so?

[@NandaKishor-fg8go]

What is the _G table?

[@5uphi]

_G points to a table that can be accessed from all scripts its like how workspace points to game.Workspace from all scripts

[@NandaKishor-fg8go]

@@5uphi oh thanks i didn't knew this even though I m doing roblox dev for some years now haha

[@fusion.studioX]

Throw performance.. out the windowww~~~

[@5uphi]

use local _G = _G to download free ram

[@watermelon8487]

What keyboard are you using?

[@5uphi]

I have a magicforce with 68 keys and brown switches

[@watermelon8487]

@@5uphi Thank you!

[@akzholtosamaeva117]

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[@5uphi]

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[@pieTone]

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[@acronyx8880]

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[@concepts_]

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[@Hero.S]

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[@Roxaro]

after I see '_G' I just did write this comment and won't watch this video

[@5uphi]

Thanks for the comment

[@root6132]

@@5uphi but isn’t _G a bad practice?, correct me if im wrong

[@5uphi]

Reality can be whatever you want it to be

[@gummypusswatterson1322]

@@root6132 it doesn't have to be. many speak badly of it and they have valid reasons for disliking it, but it's still a very convenient tool you can use in certain situations

[@triducal]

@@gummypusswatterson1322ts funny how so many people get mad at the use of it but cant even explain why its a bad practice 😂

[@CopperCogStudio]

Good tutorial although wouldnt recommend using _G since roblox documentation does states its 10 times slower id rather work arround it with something else.

[@5uphi]

Could you send a link to this documentation

[@CopperCogStudio]

@@5uphi Nevermind whatever I just said, while searching for the documentation I just found out this was changed or something, it says that _G is not slower than module scripts require.

[@maquililo]

Players.PlayerAdded event doesn't work for me, it prints "Here" but not the character name, why? local NewPlayerAdded = {} local Players = game:GetService("Players") NewPlayerAdded.Initialize = function() print("Here") Players.PlayerAdded:Connect(function(player: Player) player.CharacterAdded:Connect(function(character: Model) print(character.Name) end) end) end return NewPlayerAdded