HOW TO SWING WEIGHT A GOLF CLUB

[@therty_]

Hey I know that app!! Great content as always! I’m glad people find utility in the tools I make 😊 Thanks for broadcasting it, AJ - I hope some of your subscribers get some use out of it.

[@robertlevens7908]

I really enjoy your videos! So much good info. I am an amateur club builder for almost 40 years. My technique is to dry fit the head and shaft without a grip, and use tip weight to achieve E0 (for example). I use that s/w through the 9i, then add +.5 s/w for PW, +1 for GW, +2 for SW, and +3 for LW. Epoxy and grip tape effective cancel out each other. I can then install grips, usually in the 51g-54g range, lightest grips on short irons and progressively heavier toward the long irons. Finished clubs will be 9 s/w points lighter than the s/w w/o grips. My mentor is Dave Tutelman, who believes that the grip reduces s/w but does not change the feel in the hands. Because the grip is basically centered in the hands, there is no contribution to the feel or heft in the hands. Most golfers cannot not feel the difference between 2 clubs s/w to E0 without a grip, one with a 50 gram grip and other with a 60 gram grip, but the s/w will be different by a few points.

[@PRYVTgomerPYLE]

You're the true hero for sharing this information!

[@markshepherd7367]

As I’ve said before l really like your videos, you know what you are talking about. My own thoughts on swing weighting is it either works or it doesn’t, trial and error is my only way of finding out what I need to know. I like having a very heavy head which means I need a heavy swing weight in the handle end. Most people think I’m mad, but I know better. Keep up your great work, even though most people won’t follow what you do, but they might get someone to do it for them.

[@brucebrill3248]

I noticed you didn't include the grip tape into the the club weight data to pre-determine the swing weight. Shouldn't that be included?

[@chewingal2324]

It should be offset by the weight of the ferrule and the epoxy, but if you put on an excessive amount of tape wraps, then you should do a dry fit with the amount of tape you’ll be installing. I do all my dry fittings with the amount of tape I'll be using and with the ferrule already pre-installed. The error I make is the weight of the epoxy, but then when I aim for e.g. D2.0 I'll do my dry fitting at D1.8. In fact I measure the swing weights of all my clubs separately before assembling.

[@bullrunner5646]

AJ, thank you for a great channel. As an amateur golfer looking to make tweaks, I would like to ask not the “how” but the “why”? Why does it help to swing weight the clubs? Is it the same for all woods, irons, wedges? Thank you and keep up the fantastic work.

[@grantvicknair]

Swing weight is how heavy the club is and how it feels in your hands( the distribution of the weight) clubs the same swing weight will be more consistent to swing woods and irons a d2 or d3 is the common and wedges are usually one weigh higher so d4

[@bullrunner5646]

@@grantvicknair thanks Grant.

[@MussbacherIndustries]

Loved the video, thanks. Interesting, I have a much older Golfsmith scale and really appreciate the ability to chart my swing weights. Quick question, I have documented my overall weights for all clubs as well and watched how overall weightings is affected by small changes like lead tape, or, in the case of Drivers, head or toe weights addition/removal. I have learned that for my SIM Driver, removing the Fade/Draw base weight(sliding 10 grams) and heel weight(10 grams), from my 47.5" Driver, I now have a swing weight change from E6 to D1 (overall weight was 335 now 325gms). After testing all the variables and weight configurations (E8 to D1) via Trackmen testing, I am not left with a 5 grams of lead tape to the base, Fade/Draw area, to achieve a final configuration of D4 and 325 grams. The Driver feels and performs much sweeter. Do you use or consider the overall weighting in your work? Your video dealt with the swing weight factors/adjustments but, not the overall weight adjustment or considerations. Thanks

[@davidsmith812]

Do you make custom clubs for your subscribers, given that we'd supply you w/ the data that you would need? I'd like to get a new wedge and was wondering if you would do that? Thanks. LOVE your videos and the wealth of information and practicality that you give us! Keep up the good work!

[@EFGMC]

Having now opened my new shop, I've been doing custom builds for a while. Feel free to email me with more details about what you're looking for. [e-mail]

[@orlandojohnson5671]

Thanks anyway, I found the video your referring to yesterday. So I tried the Barford app you suggested. It works ok, I'll figure it out soon. But I like the split grip idea also. Again thanks for the tips.

[@adambarnes4191]

What about variations in grip weight through quality control? I regripped my clubs with Tour Velvet Midsize this past spring, and when I weighed each grip, not one was the same. I ended up writing the weight on each and putting them on in order of heaviest on my 4 iron to lightest on my sw as set sw usually progresses say d2 to d6 anyway. Do you weigh all grips in a build to make sure they are the same prebuild so that your streamline process doesn't have different weights, or do you just adjust at the end? Thank you.

[@EFGMC]

I've never measured a Golf Pride grip that came out more than plus minus 1 gram. That's not enough variation for me to worry about in a build. I've run into some issue with some other brands. If they vary I would rather have more total weight in the short clubs so they usually get the heavier grips.

[@DAGenao]

Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.

[@paragonwindows4520]

I’m planning on cutting down my 3-5 irons to match my 6, and then normal progression from 6-LW. If I just wanted the same swing weight as my current 6 iron onwards for my newly cut down irons, but didn’t need to know the swing weight number, what’s the easiest way to measure? Would I just find the CG point and have it the same distance from the butt end of all clubs? Thank you

[@EFGMC]

Remember each head is lighter as the loft goes down so the final SW will keep getting lighter as you go into the longer iron heads. Personally I say don't worry about what the SW value is. Who cares. Get some lead tape and head to the range. Hit each of the newly shortened irons and start adding lead tape until you find the sweet spot of feel and consistency. You'll be far better served with this method. Once you find it for each club, you can input the new weighted club into an online SW calculator if you really want to know the number. Did a few videos on those. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXukfYh4p5pkoKssi=Yz8a9-cIP4R2X4o2

[@GaryThompson-z8e]

I watch your postings all the time - thanks. Can you give me some ballpark idea if I change my Ping I 210 irons from 98 gram steel shafts to 72 gram graphite what the new swing weight might be? The irons ar stock from ping at D2 now.

[@EFGMC]

You should see about 1 SWP drop for every 9g of weight you lose. This isn't exact though as some shafts will be more tip or butt heavy, but it's a reasonable estimate.

[@ryangeorge59]

Hello! I’m wondering what the progression window is for a full iron set?

[@EFGMC]

1pt lighter in the long irons and 1pt heavier in the 9 into the PW is a good progression.

[@davidsmith812]

Do you have any videos on how long the clubs should be for a particular person? And how do you properly measure the length of a club? It seems that my clubs are a little too long (I'm not as tall as I used to be!) and I'm wanting to measure them to see. Thanks.

[@Gricky]

Question - if you are building a set with buildup tape (2-3 wraps) - do u add the tape before a swingweight? Just wondering if there will be noticeable affect for the tape.

[@EFGMC]

You could. For me I will keep it in the back of my mind if a client is really insistent on a certain SW number. However since you will be doing the same taping job to all your clubs, the SW progression will stay constant, and that is what I think matters with SW.

[@Gricky]

@@EFGMC thanks!

[@doncleary9738]

Would you consider MOI more important than swing weight.

[@EFGMC]

I've built MOI matched sets and never found them to be any better than SW matched sets. I think static weight is as important as anything considered.

[@davehumby4957]

How do you determine the swing weight for the person your building the clubs for?

[@EFGMC]

I like the components to dictate the sw. If you have light weight components, a lighter swingweight isn’t a bad thing.

[@WickedTuna313]

How much does the sliding weight on the scale weigh? I have this scale, but no sliding Weight.

[@EFGMC]

Not sure. I would contact the manufacturer.

[@jimblazina935]

Hi and thanks fr the video. Did you forget to add the weight of tape for the grip ? I use a total of 5 layers of tape at 1 gram per piece of tape and some pros use much much more. Swing weight won't be right unless you add in the weight of the final wraps for the tape.

[@EFGMC]

If you are using that much then you might factor it in. One or two pieces not really necessary in my opinion. And most importantly I assume you are using the same amount of tape for every club so the weight will be consistent across the set.

[@VishMoto]

Does increasing swign weight have an impact on ball speed (and as a result distance) if the swing remains the same?

[@EFGMC]

Physics says that a heavier head (more mass) will transfer more energy into the ball everything else being equal. That does require the speed to be the same though, and that can slow down when we start adding weight.

[@chewingal2324]

The difference between swingweight with and without grip is not a constant. It changes with the length of the club. However, the error will be minimal.

[@stevendixon3422]

I have had my irons fitted with graphite shafts. My swingweights now progress from 5 iron D2.5 to wedge and UW D4.5 is this normal?

[@EFGMC]

Yes. I like to see the longest iron a touch lighter and the wedges a touch heavier. That's my preferred method.

[@stevendixon3422]

@@EFGMC thanks worried that my new set had been poorly fitted by SGGT 5 is 2.5 6,7 are 3 8 is 3.5 9 is 4 and PW,UW 4.5 would you say this is a standard progression?

[@EFGMC]

@@stevendixon3422 I would say that's reasonable. Anything under .5 isn't worth worrying about in my opinion.

[@billmalec]

AJ, have something for you to test: How does slamming your club on the ground affect lie angle

[@EFGMC]

Haha. I like it.

[@robertalbers2648]

Should all irons have the same swing weight?

[@eduardgolubenko9907]

SUPER VIDEO!!!!

[@retiredsparky526]

What about the weight of the grip tape and ferrule? I like to put a strip of tape over the split grip and use a split ferrule. Then the only variable would be the epoxy.

[@EFGMC]

I don't find the amount of weight added by the ferrule or tape to be influential enough to bother. Pair that with the fact that every club will have the same tape and ferrule and will thereby have the same SW change.

[@eosme]

Where to buy the measuring device?

[@EFGMC]

Golfworks

[@LT99_]

What about grip tape and ferrule and the epoxy?

[@ericpietrondi9186]

Well. Grip tape is needed as it weighs few grams. And depending on what ferrules you use will change it as well.

[@EFGMC]

They will usually cancel each other out or at best add .5 to the SW. Tape weights 3g and ferrule plus epoxy weights 2-3g. Most important is all the clubs will have the same tape and ferrules etc so the change will be uniform.

[@AnthonyAlberts-z7c]

What is the name of the App please.

[@sms9106]

I use the same swingweight tool.

[@EdKrisiak]

How would you add rear swing weight to a club?

[@EFGMC]

Counter weights in the butt end or lead tape wrapped under the grip.

[@EdKrisiak]

@@EFGMC Thank you!!!! First time I encountered it was today :)

[@johnpaton8047]

What about clubs with jumbomax grips..your swing weight measure might not fit..

[@sourpatch_king]

Wouldn’t the grip tape add to the weight?

[@dominicdurso3672]

I’ve just bought a putter it feels a bit light , I can put heavier weights in , is this gonna mess the flow of putter or is it ok to adjust weight to suit me . ?????

[@EFGMC]

Yes, add weight and see what happens. Without actually trying it, anything else is just theoretical. Worst case, you don't like it and you go back to the original weights.

[@dominicdurso3672]

@@EFGMC thanks .. great vids too

[@34dawgsgo]

I've never fully understood swing weight. Because if using all the same components: head, shaft and grip it should not matter. Say for a set of irons. 3-P.

[@vitor301980]

That is true if the head weights change by 7 grams per club head, for every half inch change in club length, the shaft weights are all identical, prior to tip trimming or butt trimming, or both, assuming a non taper tip shaft, along with the grips weights being the same. Every manufacturer has a tolerances plus or minus a certain number of grams. For instance, Star Grips have very tight tolerances plus or minus 1 gram of stated weight. Club heads can be all over the place with regards to weight, lie and loft angles even on big manufaturer’s products. That is why you can disassemble a set of irons from even a big manufacter and find some of the shafts have tip weights as they are correcting for the under weight heads.

[@vitor301980]

That said changing the grip weight may cause a big change in the swing weight but has very little impact on the MOI of the assembled club. Where as changing the head weight, shaft weight, or shaft length has a significant effect on the both the swingweight along with the MOI.