How-to take EGO out of lifting?

In this video, Drs.Feigenbaum and Baraki answer questions submitted during the most recent LA Seminar.
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[@mp7064]

Doing Alan dirty with that thumbnail

[@posthawk1393]

I kind of thought that too, but it's also paying respect to him because these guys know Alan in the TN is going to bring people in to watch this vid.

[@kingandy18]

I was thinking the same thing hahaha

[@dustinwatkins7843]

Scanned the video just looking for their commentary on him and didn't see it, then went to comment exactly what you said basically

[@Andreastheduck]

TBF I care about Jordans and Austins PRs more than my own at this point

[@NoMirr0r]

Lmaao based

[@K4R3N]

Baraki's answer is solid advice. Learning the lesson the hard way

[@nattyfatty413]

Nice thumbnail. I'm awaiting Alan Thrall's companion video

[@Boulders-and-Barbells]

I feel called out by the "how much caffiene, Rick Ross and IronMind Oly lifting" comment... so damn funny/true

[@posthawk1393]

I struggle with this. After I hit some round-numbered milestones, like sets of bench at 225, sets of squat at 315, sets of DL at 405, and sets of press at 135, I didn't want to scale back the weight because it felt like I was reverting to a previous strength level even though that's an irrational thought.

[@danilopedraza]

THIS

[@robertlevy4613]

Yep I feel this

[@blubbermammoth8426]

Yeah my back offs have reached 225 on squat in general days and 10 lbs lower and I’m suddenly a weak underdeveloped 8 year old boy in my mind 😂

[@BareStrength]

feel you bro :( What helped for me though is the thought that eitherway, I'm still weak lol

[@posthawk1393]

@@BareStrength That's not true! Think of the average fully untrained/never trained man and what he can lift and compare it to yourself. After a few years of lifting, most people can add at least 50% to their lifts, if not 100% or more.

[@oafkad]

The "don't add weight until I can do this for a complete workout" has been my goto for a month or so now. Not very long, but I like it a lot.

[@jcoleCRNA]

That seems like such a better way to train. Let the weight determine the reps we do. Not make an pre-determined decision on how many reps at a certain weight. Especially considering how we know that our day to day weight capacity changes. Obviously with the long term goal of eventually hitting higher 1RMs. But having a rep range just sounds like the right move from a programming standpoint. Love the content!

[@RonSwansonIsMyGod]

To quote the Dalai Lama, "it's okay to have desire, just be smart about it".

[@TheChillBison]

So good to hear that if I'm not constantly going up in weight, I'm wasting time or not progressing. Consistency is more important than absolute weight on any given day.

[@limitisillusion7]

It's better to view strength training as a behavior you to do to stay healthy first and foremost, regardless of progression. In effect, the progression is the longevity you gain from lifting. This makes it okay if you find yourself plateauing, so long as you're still getting at it. On the other hand, gains are just a bonus. Bottom line, don't get to worked up about plateaus or setbacks. Try to be in the mindset where the training itself is the reward, not the PRs, because that's the reality when your ego steps aside.

[@michanota4230]

double progression is what lifters have been doing for almost 80yrs. It takes the stress off of constantly adding weight. Own the weight🏋🏽

[@K4R3N]

Yeah I'm exactly doing double progession now in that 6-10 range. Works really good and less mental stress

[@MiketheMadness]

Leave Alan Thrall out of your thumbnail 😂

[@SilentReproach]

Love seeing Bells of Steel and Pioneer as sponsors.

[@jamesperez6785]

I have now come to terms with how things in life don't go the way you want them to. Particularly with training, especially when I suffered a number of injuries that set me back big time after having just PR'd. I haven't been lifting for very long, but thanks to barbell medicine I have graduated from the "I need to lift more today!!!" mindset. Do I want to improve performance? Absolutely. But in the grand scheme of things, I would much rather have seldom/inconsistent progress and be healthy than good progress but get hurt. Man, it just isn't worth the pain (at least not for a recreational lifter such as myself). Love the content, keep it coming!

[@tfranc347]

I think there’s also this thing for newer lifters that’s like.. you see all these jacked, strong people on Instagram, you wana be like them, you attach your self worth onto how close you are to them, you ego lift so your totals can be closer to theirs, etc.

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

That’s easy, I go to HOT Barbell in Southern California where there are a bunch of heavy lifters. Just when I think I’m strong, I’ll either see a powerlifter deadlift 300 kgs for reps, a strongman Press 280 lbs Overhead like a feather, or a lady Squat 300+ lbs easy Good reminder at how weak I am lol

[@swiftla]

I definitely feel you guys are leading the conversation on this stuff. People are starting to listen. It's quite exciting. You've changed the way I train and I'm way more positive going to the gym and thinking the long game

[@gerardboucher2453]

It was not a black cloud it was because you were a lot younger. When you get older, working out to stay in shape and be healthy is what is important

[@neversate]

Austin baraki stats 620lb squat @195 455lb bench @196 745lb deadlift @200 Austin baraki way stronger than Eric bugenhagen

[@grimtrigg3r]

Who?

[@neversate]

@@grimtrigg3r Eric bugenhagen aka sticky ricky aka rikboogs

[@loljk9443]

@@neversate BOOGS!!!!!

[@PlasmaFuzer]

Yea but what is his max zercher squat? What about his max glute bridge decline bench on a Tsunami Bar? What about his max Iron Neck loaded bicep barbell curl? What about his max dumbell plyo jumps?

[@406dn7]

I settled into this some time ago. My weightlifting journey started seven plus years ago. I'm coming 72, so definitely a senior lifter. When I changed the rep range to 6-9 instead of 4-5, all of the joint pain disappeared. Also, if for instance, I normally get 7 reps, and today there are only 6 in the tank, I let it go. As I told my brother, who also lifts, you can't recognize a good workout, if there aren't a few bad ones to compare to.

[@Rascon5]

It's so funny because I use to watch Ironmind videos to hype me up for the gym. Really struck home 🤣

[@bigmike5785]

I needed to hear this.

[@grimtrigg3r]

Extraordinary information. Appreciate the benefit of your experience!

[@tackthekack1]

I got into powerlifting after doing Ironman Triathlons. I have found it difficult to shed the Ironman mindset of pushing through discomfort and training on the edge of my capabilities at all times. I know I need to for all the reasons in this video but also because lifting makes me anxious most days. I hope to relax into the mindset Jordan and Austin talk about here.

[@benjaminbaumgardner7620]

Elite runners don’t even do that. They have periodization just like weight lifters do. Good to know in case you ever go back to cardio

[@nichols8924]

After catching covid for the first time right at the tail end of a peak where I was the strongest I've ever been, getting back into training with out having a negative mindset has been really rough. Training in rep ranges and lifts that I don't normally do has really helped though. It's definitely hard to leave ego at the door with something like powerlifting/strength training since the main purpose is to perform as well as possilbe, but this setback has kind of forced me to adopt a healthier perspective on progress

[@Chrisadizzle]

Bruhs, why you doing Alan dirty like that?

[@sillybilly9428]

Dang this is great stuff. Thanks for sharing yall's insight.

[@limitisillusion7]

To take the ego out of lifting, you must take ego out of the human.

[@kristyarthur4597]

Thanks. This is really encouraging.

[@dard4642]

I am of the opinion that, if you have been weight training for a number of years, and at a high level (meaning at the upper quintile of your current max), ego is a driver in most things that you do. In other words, you don't have an ego because you're strong; rather, you're strong because you have an ego. Also, you are most definitely stubborn. ONLY stubborn people keep picking things up until they finally break 600-lbs off the floor. I say that only because I believe it is important to understand that going in. (And I understand that, like all generalizations, it doesn't apply to every lifter.) Akin to what Austin said, we have to Art-of-War this shit and realize the times our egos are our allies and when our egos are our enemies AND treat them accordingly.

[@bodi.a.r]

Bro, your username means pain in Hindi. दर्द

[@dard4642]

@@bodi.a.r that's tight! It's a nickname from my last name (Dardis).

[@bodi.a.r]

@@dard4642 nice

[@finallychangedthis]

Loved the last sentence there. Instead of “don’t ego lift,” love the notion of “when does ego matter and how does it matter” Shoutout to BBM haha

[@denariusshekels]

Where do these guy find jeans that fit those huge quads snd still fit at the waist.

[@PlasmaFuzer]

My guess would be a good tailor. They are both doctors, why not spend the money to have custom fit pants.

[@scottpope6210]

My ego is the soul of my training, wouldn't even think of not listening to it. This comes from a person who's been lifting drug free for 49 years, retired from construction and get to lift everyday now.

[@ggrthemostgodless8713]

Make plans on programming the workout, but do the best you can do THAT day. It is no good to have programmed a 405 squat lift for today two weeks ago, and then go and you KNOW you HONESTLY don't feel it. Specially in the lower range reps. The five and above rep range are wayyyy more forgiving.

[@michanota4230]

been training for over 40yrs🏋🏽My pr’s today were my light warmups from ‘80s. It f#c$s my head up! I do also do physical labor.. getting old sucks!

[@grimtrigg3r]

Beats the alternative

[@scottpope6210]

I retired from being a laborer two years ago and lifts have been going up to where l was 20 yrs ago. I'm 61 and started laboring in 1975 and that shit beats a guy down, but once you get away from the grind your body will rebound. Good luck with your training.

[@battlevain]

It's a personal decision. People have to find their own levels. Always train to bring enough struggle in your workouts but don't become obsessed with heavy lifting. Train for fun and listen to your body.

[@JackgarPrime]

But bro, how will everyone on Instagram know I'm a big strong man if I'm not lifting way more weight than I should be for my programming? In all seriousness, though, it's definitely hard not to want to lift more when you're in a light weight or lower RPE segment of training. But I am glad I train typically in the rpe 7-8 range and I've gotten pretty good at judging it. I can train all the time without hurting or feeling fatigued before I even start.

[@ramikesserwan4032]

Us lifters would congratulate a friend for lifting at our frequency, intensity and volume. Why not acknowledge that we’re absolute gym monsters? We’re fkn awesome

[@mdd1963]

As I now see that rapid gains in strength at 59 seem elusive compared to when I was 40, I just accept that I am now adding more volume, a la Gironda!

[@gokukakarot1855]

For the algorithm

[@stevebryson3702]

I just want you guys to know that KZbin tried to play a Huberman video after this and I told it ABSOLUTELY NOT.

[@Buzz_Kill71]

But why disrespect Alan?

[@paulrodberg]

Alan Thrall sent me here. My question is, can a small recent inguinale bulge/hernia be eliminated with intelligent training without surgery? Thank you for your teaching.

[@Zaeyrus]

2 comments, I'm 38, started lifting 2 years ago, not sure what that makes me, a rookie or intermediate, nor do I care, but what I had in mind when I started lifting was that this was gonna be a long run and I really shouldn't care how long it will take me. I am making progress now at a weekly basis. 5 rep range for sets (main lifts that is) and almost every week is a PR for me (increasing the weight on the bar by 2.5 kg) and so I decided that I will continue like this until I hit a wall. To sum, I always found funny yt videos like "build x muscle in 6 weeks" or whatever, what is gonna happen in 6 weeks? For me, deload. And we start again. 2nd, I too fall in the "ego-lifting" trap, but in sense that I'm still unexperienced to judge my form properly (I should probably get some prof. training 😂) and I sometimes overreach not because I am forcing it, but missing on form without noticing and then I have to correct that by lowering the weight and getting sure in the lift.

[@grimtrigg3r]

What's cool for me is since I started taking BBM advice on keeping things RPE7-8, I don't ever really deload. It's been almost 9 months on my third run of powerbuilding 3 template and haven't deloaded yet. I just never feel sore or worn down enough to need it.

[@brettcleveland6335]

Mate if you've been training 2 years and you still adding that weight by the week you need to sell your secret.

[@DraikM]

[@drednac]

Yea that's what I do, Increasing variables in this order .. sets, reps, weight. So adding sets is the easiest, adding reps is the second easiest and weight is last. So have progression in all 3 I just cycle out the sets progression and when I finish I add one rep and start with 3 sets again and when I get to certain set x reps I add a little bit of weight and restart everything. Feels slow as fuck, but seems to work pretty consistently .. The hardest thing is always don't fall for the temptation to add 10kg instead of just 5 or 2.5 .. or that I feel great today so let's do 2 more sets and next workout is shit .. Just go and do exactly what you should and go home ..

[@jojcaac5488]

Fordan Jeigenbaum and Baustin Araki.

[@PlasmaFuzer]

Don't forget Thlan Arall

[@wizzelhoart]

whatever happened to the BBM crew? Are you guys ditching youtube? I only know about your podcast on spotify

[@azarrowmusic]

my favorite jacked nerds ever

[@jackcrist7731]

"No one gives damn about your squat."

[@jaybanks7718]

It's easy. Just quit Crossfit. Nip it in the bud.

[@TaiChiPlay]

Who are you competing with? Why are you lifting? If lifting is driving you crazy, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it. And ultimately, as you note, nobody on this planet gives a rats a.. about your PR. If you're doing this to be healthy, then frustration, anger, and bitter determination isn't.

[@eddiehyman3289]

29 seconds until you get to the question. Your intros are 11 seconds longer than Muscle Masochist's, and those were too long. REDUCE REDUCE REDUCE your intros guys, or put the sponsorships at the end. Or have them pop up while you're talking. And the volume on your intros and outros is TOO LOUD. It's two dudes silently talking, I turn up the volume on the speakers to hear you answer the question, then BLAM *HORN MUSIC* - go to 8:11 and listen to Jordan transitioning into the outro. Holy. Anyways, good video.

[@ramparts1445]

How do I unsubscribe from this blog

[@blammela]

Complaining about the amount of time it took when clearly you have way too much time on your hands 😅😅😅… classic